There can't be anyone alive who really believes Ohio State football has ever
been clean. If they aren't cheating they aren't trying.
apparently he had to cheat to win.
All the biggies cheat. If Alabama offers a car, Auburn or Florida up the deal
with parents. It's been happening for decades. It happens more than any of us
I don't like to pile-on.But in this case, I will make an
exception.Officially, piling on.Luke Fickell?3 years probation?3 years @ 15 scholarships/yr?3 years
no bowl games?If it could happen to USC, why not OSU?
compared to USC they are going to bury osu
It could not happen to a "better" program. Truth be told,
I'd even root for byu if they played the poison nuts from Columbus.
By walking away, Tressel is insuring that Ohio State will get no more than a
hand slap, relatively speaking. Heard it said on the radio the other day: the
only way the NCAA could be too harsh with Ohio State would be to give them the
death penalty. Whatever sanctions are handed down, it will be WAY too light.
Now it is time to go get the SEC. You know those guys are cheating too.
If the NCAA is serious then it needs to revamp the one year "death
penalty" for teams like Bama, Ohio State, and USC who have cheated for
years (not a one time thing).
Now isn't it time to dismiss Gee as well. The guy is a joke!
What did the President of OSU say?
Uteology Usc hasn't beeb cheating for years! Where's your sources?
You have none! I love how people blame USC for not knowing what a few players
did under cover without anyone finding out. SC is being made a example and the
entire Trojan nation sees that as well as any College Football fan. You don't
have to deal with agents and other persuasions, because your BYU not USC or Ohio
No surprise, here. He "resigned" before the NCAA gave him the hatchet
job! I can't remember when such a well-respected coach of a MAJOR college
athletics teams went down in flames as quickly as Tressel did for trying to
cover-up what he knew to be wrong. Amazing the principles of honesty that still
come to play. Something to be said here about "Choice &
Crowntown1: I believe Uteology is a fan of Utah not BYU. I agree
that many programs get tossed under the bus because they reach and maintain a
high plateau and it causes the low self esteem types to lump many of the very
successful programs together as cheaters and liars.You have to admit
however, that the spot light is on USC. I think it's also fair to say that there
is enough evidence, and if not evidence, very questionable antics by many
programs big & small that there is a lot of skepticism out there in NCAA
@Crowton1Cry me a river, I guess they didn't have enough money to
enforce the rules with all that money from the BcS monopoly. Sources? Try and Google and you'll find your sources.Here's two
that took me one minute to find:"The NCAA has ruled that the
University of Southern California athletic department exhibited a lack of
institutional control from 2004 to 2009 for a wide array of rules violations
committed in its football, mens basketball and womens tennis programs."
-- Yahoo Sports"USC football Coach Pete Carroll employed a
former NFL tactician last season to help with the team's punting and kicking
game, an arrangement that may have violated NCAA rules that prohibit consultants
from coaching, The Times has learned." -- LA Times (July 30, 2009 - Paul
Hey President Gee.... ya think Ohio State may just become one of the
"little sisters of the poor"? It's about time this team gets what it
The problem IMO is that none of these infractions actually had any impact on
what took place on the field...similar to USC. I think many BCS programs play
the same "look the other way" games. It's still cheating, just in a
different way I suppose. Just pay these players some $$. They're the ones
making $$ for the university and conference anyway.
Uteology Lack of Institutional control. This is why your comment
doens't mean anything to me or SC fans. Where's the lack of control? I think you
mean Oregon with their 14 arrests or off field police violations or h0ow about
FLorida with all their arrests and problems. SC was held at a different standard
and everyo0ne knows that. SC is not some thug school. If any of you actually
been to the campus and been around the University you would a better clue as to
what your talking about.
Crowntow. Go to bleacher report and you will see pages of violations in football
and basketball at USC. Steroids, improper benefits, cheating, improper benefits,
theft, improper benefits, drug use, improper benefits, domestic abuse, improper
benefits, etc. Somebody is getting paid! Great program but not as clean as you
Bleacher Report is your source??? USC is rarely in the new for having athletes
getting arrested or etc. Get your accusations straight! Oregon having dozens of
players getting arrested, suspended etc. Florida same story, Ohio St. and I'm
sure others. The thing is you cannot control what 85 players do in their spare
time and being in a market in LA is tougher with tons more influences.If your a
BYU in Provo Ut . .Not so much.
A good man whose books painted him into a corner. When you can't separate your
religion from spilling into every area of your life and profession, and you use
you're status of a high profile coach to highlight your Christianiny; you'd
better keep your house clean. The fact he lied and covered up can't be disputed.
Just GOOGLE OSU e-mails. His statement followed the same "religious gawbly
goop" as if he was a victim. If he's the victim who is the perpetrator? You
really can't serve two masters, he couldn't follow the God of Uber Big-Time
football and that of JIM TRESSEL proveyer of all that is good.
@crowton1Is this a good enough source for you?USC's
history of major NCAA infractionsJune 10, 2010 By Baxter Holmes (LA
Times)USC's athletics program has been punished six times by the
NCAA for major infractions, since the NCAA began tracking cases in 1953.2001 Tutors committed academic fraud by writing academic papers for
football and women's swimming athletes. Penalties: two-year probation,
scholarship reductions.1986 Improper distribution of complimentary
tickets, recruiting contact, minor recruiting inducements and out-of-season
practices and tryouts in football program. Penalties: two-year probation,
scholarship reductions, recruiting limitations for coaches.1982
Focused on ticket scheme used to funnel cash to football players. Allegations
also included academic fraud, improper employment and eligibility. Penalties:
three-year probation, two-year postseason ban, two-year television ban,
recruiting limitations for coaches.1959 Football players received
air transportation beyond what is permitted by NCAA rules. Penalties: two-year
probation, two-year television ban, one-year postseason ban.1957
Football players received monthly cash allowances from an outside foundation.
Penalties: two-year probation, two-year television ban, one-year postseason ban.
crowntown1,If you are trying to point out that the NCAA is
inconsistent in how it does its business where investigations and punishments is
considered, then I would agree with you.And it is true that there
are other teams whose players end up in the police blotters more often than the
Trojan do.But if you are trying to sell USC as squeaky clean, don't
be surprised when most football fans disagree with you. According to the NCAA's
own website, USC been on probation twice in the last decade for misdoings in
their football program - in 2001 and 2010.Are the Trojans being used
to "make an example?" Maybe. But it's not like the NCAA has to
fabricate evidence, is it?
THE Ohio State University is about to be hit with THE Major Sanctions!Just like USC! despite the spin from THE crowntown1
Kudos to Bronco for the ethical program he maintains. I am not a fan of the
Utes, but I also will praise KWhitt for obeying the rules as well. It is great
to see these coaches and others who I don't know who run ethical college
football programs. To Jim Tressel I would say that cheaters never prosper and
they will eventually get caught and have to face the consequences which I hope
the NCAA will make very severe.
It is hard to cheat when your average alum has a 5 digit income and 4 kids. When you have thousands of boosters with 7 and 8 digit incomes it is a
little harder to control. It is easy to hate success.
Looks to me Tressel got out before he got in trouble, just like Pete Carroll
from USC, and resigned whatever it was a forced resignation so he could save
Go Big Blue!!! "It is easy to hate success."It's also easy to hate cheaters. Tressel was flat out a cheater. He and
everyone else at Ohio State turned a blind eye to rampant NCAA rules violations.
The main reason Ohio State "couldn't" control it, was because Ohio
State didn't want to control it.Slap Ohio State with an SMU-type
death penalty and GUARANTEED Ohio State will control it.
I am simply stating that it is inconsistent and a complete joke that SC can be
slapped with these sanctions years after the incident really because of one
player Reggie Bush. It took them years to finalize a decision and now the
present team has to suffer how is that fair at all. Reggie forfeited his heisman
and has been virtually crucified for the sake of College football and USC. Lack
of Institutional control?? Oregon has dozens of players get arrested along with
Florida. Isn't that "lack of control"? SC for the most part has a
clean athletic program except for a few former SC athletes. NCAA is a completely
Thee Ohio State should be hit with major violations. We are just waiting to hear
what sanctions they are hit with.