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Mike Sorensen: Americans may never dominate in sports again

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  • thisguylovessoccer Draper, Utah
    May 1, 2011 8:31 p.m.

    "No, we're not the best in soccer or cricket or rugby or curling. Never have been and never will be."
    I don't think you know anything about whether America will ever be the best at soccer or not.
    17 million people in the U.S. play soccer. 6 million are women. So that leaves 11 million male soccer players in the U.S. That's a lot of people. I think with that amount of players, and the number of players growing all the time, its only a matter of time before the united states wins a world cup.

    I don't think any country will be able to beat the USA basketball team on a consistent basis ever. In the countries where it's being played there are 100X more people playing soccer. Basketball in other countries is like lacrosse or water polo in the united states= its irrelevant.

    I served a mission in Germany and most people don't even know who Dirk Nowitski is.
    Just saying, I think your a little off on some of your ideas.

  • Blue Bolshevik Salt Lake City, UT
    May 1, 2011 10:20 p.m.

    Well, at least this year americans are the best in ice dance.

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    May 1, 2011 10:45 p.m.

    We have NEVER placed a Dream team in the olympics for baseball, even when all other countries did we still sent in our kids, not even AAA. Baseball is now out of the olympics anyway.

  • King Black Paso Robles, CA
    May 1, 2011 10:53 p.m.

    Funny cause I was in Germany to and im sure people knew who he was but then again I was at a basketball court. but you are correct its irrelevant...

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    May 1, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    Although I, too, am somewhat dismayed by the current lack of dominance that Americans have held in certain sports for many years, there are several important facts here:

    -many of the foreign athletes, especially in golf, tennis, and basketball are "foreign" in name only. Many, if not most, have gained training from American coaches, lived in the US starting in college or younger, speak English as we do in the US, and maintain residences here.

    -these matters are cyclical. Give it a couple of more years, and, voila, it will be different.

  • OU812 Layton, UT
    May 1, 2011 11:51 p.m.

    I'm not sure its fair to say the USA dominated sports played in the USA. If you look at sports played internationally, like running, biking, skiing and tennis and others, Americans have their stars, but other countries have their stars as well.
    Of course with sports played in America, most of the athletes will be from america.

  • Morgan Duel Taylorsville, UT
    May 2, 2011 1:36 a.m.

    Wow, what an important story. Who really cares about rugby, soccer and cricket! Must be a slow news day.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    May 2, 2011 7:07 a.m.

    I'm wondering why it matter is an American wins anything.

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    May 2, 2011 8:00 a.m.

    Better push the panic button. Maybe we could yank athletic children from their families and build a dynasty of gymnasts, sprinters, discus throwers, jockeys, etc. Then, and only then could we dominate just like the former Soviet Union. We need some new icons in the US anyway.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    May 2, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    This article makes no sense to me. If you're going to talk about world sports, you have to include the Olympics. The U.S. is always right there for the top gold and overall medals every year. To say they don't dominate or never will dominate means you don't really understand sports. The only professional football leagues I know of are in the US and Canada. I think it's safe to say that it is one of the few, if only, American sports.

    Nations come and go with their dominance, but the U.S. shows no signs at all that they are going to disappear.

  • RD1025 Springville, UT
    May 2, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    I think it is great that these other countries have something to cheer about and be proud of. For some it is the only thing they have that brings a sense of normalcy to their lives. Plus these other countries have more of a backing from their governments and other organizations that allow them to develop programs and train. America's arrogance and lack of commitment has landed them as also rans in a lot of these sports. Soccer is a great example. If they worried more about developing athletes and less about making money off of families who are caught up in the sham of club soccer we would catch up in that sport with the millions of kids playing. Too many people are trying to make money off of sports before they even become successful. Of course our idea of what is successful needs to change.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 2, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    Let's see....the U.S. has a population of approximately 300 million people. The rest of the world has a population of around 5 billion people. So of course if we are putting our 300 million up against the entire rest of the worlds 5 billion we are going to have a huge disadvantage along the line of 17 to 1.

    But if we put our 300 million against any other single country, or for that matter against any other single continent, we more than match up well, we pretty well still dominate.

    It would be naive to think we would dominate anything when the competition is all of the rest of the planet but of course no one in Germany considers a victory by India over the U.S. in some sport as a victory for Germany anymore than anyone in the U.S. considers a victory by Germany over Namibia as a victory for us.

    I'm pretty happy with the way we compete internationally and the success we have doing it.

  • SoCalUte Trabuco Canyon, CA
    May 2, 2011 10:28 a.m.

    Mike,
    This is a lame article. First off, Golf has never been an American Sport. It started in England and has always been big in Europe. Second, The majority of Americans don't really care that much about soccer, tennis and even Hockey.
    Basketball is seeing more International players come into the league, but, very good or (allstar) International players are more the exception than the rule. Your only valid point is Baseball, where we are seeing more and more players coming over from South America and more and more young American players moving away from Baseball,
    I guess there's not much to write about since the NFL is locked out.

  • afro14 Sandy, UT
    May 2, 2011 10:57 a.m.

    I wonder what the world will say as the US gets progressively better in soccer. Look for the US to make a run deep into the World Cup next time around.

  • tottenhamlover Salt Lake City, UT
    May 2, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    This is the worst article Deseret News has posted in quite some time. Best basketball players in the world: Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Derrick Rose, Dwight Howard, Kevin Durant, and Dirk Nowitski. All but one of them is American and 3 of them are 25 or younger. Yeah, sounds like we're in big freaking trouble.

  • Zona Zone Mesa, AZ
    May 2, 2011 11:47 a.m.

    First about soccer: The women's team has won two World Cups; on the mens side, we've advanced out of the group stage in three of the last five World Cups and dang near won the Confederations Cup. The mens team is on the upswing, and it is now widely speculated in Europe that it's only a matter of time before the United States is THE team in soccer (see the book Soccernomics for a larger discussion on that).

    Yes, no one here really cares about soccer. Curling has recently caught on enough that the American curling may eventually progress. We certainly have the talent for rugby, and with high school rugby teams popping up, who knows? Maybe we could some day cobble together enough talent to compete with New Zealand.

    I think Mr. Sorenson made a grave mistake making such a sweeping generalization about America's competitiveness in sports he is clearly unfamiliar with.

  • Zona Zone Mesa, AZ
    May 2, 2011 11:49 a.m.

    Oops! I meant no one here cares about curling. Clearly, a lot of people really care about soccer, even if some old curmudgeons are unwilling to recognize that.

  • K Mchenry, IL
    May 2, 2011 11:59 a.m.

    America is a nation of foreigners. I don't see the point in the us verses them. Doesn't matter where an athlete was born. Who are they playing for. To whom do they owe allegiance?

    Many athletes playing for countries outside the US train here.

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    May 2, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    I was always taught that international sports are to unify the world no to divide it. The U.S. is a great competitor in many sports, so is Russia, China, Ukraine, Germany, England, and many small countries pleasantly surprise us with victories. Why it is so important always to win? Shouldn't be more important that the players and fans had a great participating in a great performance? Winning some times is good so is losing some times, it helps us to re-examine us and improve. I think is good to be the underdog once in a while, it makes us more human. Just a thought!

  • thisguylovessoccer Draper, Utah
    May 2, 2011 2:42 p.m.

    @SoCalUte
    Listening to the radio the other day they took a poll. Which do you like more MLB or MLS. MLS won. You're from CA so that may not be the case there but it is here in Utah.

    Just look at the Dodgers. They are an example of where most of the league is headed.

  • myself Salt Lake City, UT
    May 2, 2011 2:50 p.m.

    Whoa sweet CNN just ran a story about RSL's run through the champions league.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    May 2, 2011 3:26 p.m.

    Gary Player (South Africa) won several majors and Masters before Sevie...

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    May 2, 2011 9:33 p.m.

    This article lost all credibility when golf was mentioned as a sport.

    Yeah, sure. And Bowling is a sport. What's next, Poker?

  • zigrock Pleasant Grove, UT
    May 3, 2011 8:26 a.m.

    Ridiculous article. I can't see how America fields the majority of athletes in all major sports and somehow we are losing dominance?

    Tennis and Golf really aren't that important to Americans. When I see either on TV, I change channels and watch a sport that I actually care about like football, basketball or baseball. While the gap is narrowing, USA will continue to dominate for years.

  • axle Riverton, UT
    May 3, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    I just think that it is funny that we proclaim our league champions as "world champs". If the US wants to prove that they are the best in the world in team sports than they need to beat the best in the world in games that everyone else in the world plays! Unfortunately soccer is about the only true global team sport. I am sure that if the country wanted to we could become one of the best in the world at that sport. The money and organization would have to be put behind it that the local sports enjoy. Until then though we will have to watch early exits from the world cup and enjoy having the Green Bay Packers be "world champs" of a sport only taken seriously in America.

  • axle Riverton, UT
    May 3, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    We suffer in global team sports for the same reason England can't win the World Cup in soccer. Everyone thinks that England should always be a contender because they invented the darn game right? Well the domestic leagues would rather pay big dollars to foreign players rather than put that money into developing local English kids. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but Englands getting really frustrated that they aren't more competitive. Same with the US. Can't win in hockey because the big players come from Russia, Finland, Canada, etc. Can't win in baseball because so many of the stars of the game are from other countries. We would rather pay to get a player that is already developed rather than put money into developing our own home-grown players. Football and basketball will go the same way if they become more popular globally. So the US will be good if they see themselves as a player development country, rather than a player buyer country.

  • zigrock Pleasant Grove, UT
    May 3, 2011 4:54 p.m.

    What percent of Americans actual care about Hockey or Soccer? I enjoy watching them but i couldn't care less who wins, and I know that I am in good company (most of the US.) American's care about basketball, baseball and football, hence our domination. I am perfectly willing to admit that there are good foreign athletes out there in any sport, but as long as the US cares about a sport, we will dominate. It's cool to be on the basketball team in school. It's cool to be the starting quarterback or the ace pitcher. I don't even know a hockey player personally. In fact, I can maybe name 6 or 7 professionals, and the only name most americans know in soccer from the US is Landon Donovan. It's not that there aren't good players, we just don't care.

  • thisguylovessoccer Draper, Utah
    May 4, 2011 9:13 p.m.

    @zigrock
    you live in a bubble.
    The world cup final had higher tv viewership than any NBA finals game last year.

    You are wrong about that completely the U.S. watches good soccer. The fact is the USA doesn't play very good soccer. Just google uefa champions league TV viewers or World Cup TV viewers. When good soccer is being played Americans watch in masses.