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  • My2Cents Kearns, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:24 a.m.

    All this and a shutdown of government could all be avoided if Obama and the democrats would admit that its time to cut spending and stop this madness of spendthrift government. It has to be done or this country will never become a world power again. Obama thinks our treasury is his private banking system with no bottom line of funds.

    Stop spending Obama. End this arrogant attitude of hate you have for america. Be accountable and be a responsible president to the country you have sworn to serve.

    Why must Obama refuse to promote a responsible government with responsible spending restraints? Why does Obama refuse to save trillions of dollars from our national debt? Why is Obama determined to bankrupt every american in to socialism? It is not the American dream to have an arrogant self centered president who doesn't know what a balance sheet is.

    Once a professional welfare dependent (Obama), always a professional welfare dependent who has no concept of what a budget is. Can we get Obama enrolled in the Zion's bank program of a balanced budget and how to work with it?

  • SME Kearns, UT
    April 8, 2011 7:30 a.m.

    Interesting title for this article, is the Democratic party not involved? Perhaps after not passing a budget in the first place democratic party members feel no responsibility now.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 8:34 a.m.

    'Time's up: Obama and GOP scramble to halt shutdown' - Title

    Obama's scrambling?

    I disagree.

    *'GOP seeks 1-week extension as gov't shutdown looms' - By Andrew Taylor - AP - 04/07/10

    Where before....

    'When Democrats reclaimed the Senate majority in the 2006 midterm elections, cloture filings shot up from 68 in 2005-2006 to a record 139 in 2007-2008.'
    *'The Rise Of Cloture: How GOP Filibuster Threats Have Changed The Senate' - Ben Frumin and Jason Reif - Talking Points Memo - 01/27/10

    The GOP 1st filibusters 139 times in '07-08.

    Now, they try to get the goverment running, week by week.

    More examples Republicans are the party of 'No.'

    * 'Senate Republicans again kill bill for jobless aid' - By Stephen Ohlemacher - AP - Published by DSNews - 06/30/10

    *Shocker: Fox host calls out Republicans who blocked 9/11 responders bill By David Edwards The Raw Story 12/21/2010

    *'Senate Republicans Block Defense Bill, 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' Repeal' - By MATTHEW JAFFE and DEVIN DWYER - ABC News - 09/21/10

    Thats right.

    Republicans voted against the ENTIRE defense budget...

    than allow openly gay service in the military.

  • Furry1993 Somewhere in Utah, UT
    April 8, 2011 9:08 a.m.

    Republicans want to play politics (and make war on women in the process), to the detriment of the country and its people. Business as usual.

  • Informed Voter South Jordan, UT
    April 8, 2011 10:04 a.m.

    Furry1993: Make war on women?! Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Good grief, what a sorry statement.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 10:51 a.m.

    'Make war on women?!' - Informed Voter | 10:04 a.m.

    ...supported.

    *'GOP trying to use tax law to limit abortions' - By Stephen Ohlemacher - AP - Published by DSNews - 03/31/11

    'Opponents say the bill would make it difficult, if not impossible, for many women to obtain medical insurance that covers abortions even if they pay for it themselves.'

  • Furry1993 Somewhere in Utah, UT
    April 8, 2011 11:33 a.m.

    To Informed Voter | 10:04 a.m. April 8, 2011
    South Jordan, UT
    Furry1993: Make war on women?! Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Good grief, what a sorry statement.

    ----------------------------------

    They want to defund an organization that provides cancer screening and contraception. In other words, they want to put women's health at risk just so they can play politics. What would YOU call that?

  • Janet Ontario, OR
    April 8, 2011 12:20 p.m.

    I passionately dislike Planned Parenthood, and I am without reservation in my opposition to abortion. However, it is disingenuous for Republicans to say this fight today is about cutting expenditures. The right wing of the party is trying to force social change by holding government hostage. What if Senator Reid, et al, were refusing to sign off on anything that didn't provide amnesty for some undocumented immigrants? Veins would be popping all over Utah, Arizona, and several other states. (I am liberal on immigration, but I would be equally unhappy if that had happened.) Millions of people depend on income from public and military service. It is wrong to throw everything into a mess on principle. I have written to my senators and congressman and urged them to compromise and get this budget passed today! A huge democracy like ours requires compromise. Oh...and federal funding for women's health care could be disbursed through state Medicaid programs, for example; my sister has no health care coverage, and she needs cancer screening, but she would never to to Planned Parenthood to get it. It's only one source of such services. Just sayin.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 8, 2011 12:24 p.m.

    Thank goodness the Democrats all dress in white and represent good. Obviously the Republicans all wear black and want to destroy everything good.

    Seems logical - I think I've got the concept now.

  • We the People Sandy, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:24 p.m.

    So, not subsidizing abortions is a war on women? Please, someone show me the connection. I did not know that trying to save the country from bankruptcy is really an attack on women. Women, to my knowledge, can still obtain an abortion even if the country does not pay for it.

  • homebrew South Jordan, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:30 p.m.

    NEWS FLASH::: Harry Reid and the senate democrats just said that a deal was reached this morning to the tune of 78 billion, with some of the cuts even coming from the military.Not just the poor and middle class. But alas John Boehner cannot talk his rightwingnut caucus into the Budget deal without the Ryders cutting womens health, that they falsley claim funds abortions. (It is against federal law for government money to be used to fund elective abortions.) Any one telling you different, Is just plain Lying. This Budget battle has turned from How to fund the government for the next 6 months, to how can the republicans sneak in some of their idealogical agenda into a process that has nothing to do with the EPA, or womens healthcare. The republicans offered another stop gap measure, like they have been doing for the last 6 weeks, and included millitary families, so they could claim the democrats, unless they pass their version, would starve millitary families. That is another bald faced lie. The fact is, The democrats have negotiated in good faith, and compromised, and the republicans refuse to do so. A Lie said over and over isa LIE

  • MormonDem Provo, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    If the government shuts down, it is squarely on the heads of the GOP. They've moved the goal posts over and over and over again during these negotiations. They are using the budget crisis as an opportunity to avoid have an honest discussion about ideological issues.

    The GOP refuses to consider cuts from non-discretionary parts of the budget--which are 88% of the budget! The democrats met them halfway on budget cuts, the GOP refused. They met them 3/4 of the way, the GOP refused. They met them ALL the way, agreeing to the SAME AMOUNT of cuts as what the GOP originally asked for, and instead of accepting it the GOP decided to avail themselves of the opportunity to play politics. They threw in Planned Parenthood--an organization whose main goal is to provide reproductive counseling and birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies and abortions in the first place! Shutting down Planned Parenthood would allow the GOP to self-righteously pat themselves on the back, but would inevitably result in MORE abortions (and unsafe ones).

    Tea parties are chanting "SHUT'ER DOWN." The shut down is REPUBLICAN shut down.

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:38 p.m.

    So its not about reducing deficits but rather about something else.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    April 8, 2011 12:40 p.m.

    As I said in a post yesterday, just look at these posts and it's either the dems fault or the reps fault, no middle ground. That's exactly how our elected officials are behaving also, like a bunch of children.

    @We the People: If the funding issue for Planned Parenthood is only about abortion, fine. If it's defunding them for everything else they do, not okay!

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    The truth is this "shutdown" has nothing to do with Democrats not wanting to cut spending. There is already substantial agreement on both sides on the aisle on cuts.

    The truth is this is that Republican insistence that all funding be cut to Planned Parenthood is the major barrier, just like the abortion funding clause was for healthcare reform.

    The truth is that the Republican allegation is that this is necessary to stop Federal funding of abortions is not true.

    The truth is at NO Federal monies go to Planned Parenthood to fund abortions, now nor would they without the provision.

    The truth is this a budget bill and as such both houses of Congress should be focused on the budgetary process not political posturing on women's health issues.

    The truth is that the final act of this farce taking place in Washington it is all about political posturing by Republicans at the expense of government workers, the general public and the economy.

    The truth is Republicans have shown they know nothing of compromise and have repeatedly placed scoring political points ahead of statesmanship and the National well being.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    This is a perfect example of what's wrong in Washington. Both sides want essentially the same thing but then a polarizing topic like abortion rears its ugly head and halts everything.

    The problem with American politics is that politics are more important than the issues, laws, or anything else.

    Those of you who always blame the other party while not holding your own accountable are the reason nothing can ever get accomplished in this country.

  • Janet Ontario, OR
    April 8, 2011 12:47 p.m.

    Abortions (sadly) are legal. Planned Parenthood receives no federal funding for abortions, Congress has agreed. However, Planned Parenthood provides critical services such as cancer screening, so taking away its funding is seen by many as hurting women. I am arguing that those critical services could be (and are) provided by other than Planned Parenthood, so it isn't an either-or situation. However, shutting down the government over so fine a point is a war on all of us.

  • Just a Mom Vernal, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:48 p.m.

    Oh my gosh, get something passed already!! I would love to be a fly on the wall and listen in to all the posturing and arguing over picky things. It would indeed be entertaining.. What is NOT entertaining at all is the prospect of our already under-paid military not being paid at all. If you are an E-2, like my son is, your income is way below poverty level for a family of 5 anyway, and to not be able to receive the $600 or $700 he gets twice a month would be disastrous for them, and for anyone else in the same situation.

    This is not a war on women. They are not being banned from obtaining abortions (to which I am definitely opposed) or from obtaining cancer screening, which can be expensive, especially if you don't have insurance. But neither situation should be the basis for not coming up with SOME kind of compromise to keep the government functioning. There is WAY too much spending for foolish studies...I think we've all heard about the thousands of dollars spent on frivolous things...and not enough for what's important.

  • Tami Herriman, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:50 p.m.

    Can someone please explain to me why Planned Parenthood is singled out for special funding for women's health? What prevents a woman from just going to a doctor like everyone else and using her insurance or medicaid to pay for it if she can't afford care?

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 1:02 p.m.

    How is it war on women, when you are cutting funding that supports the murder of innocent unborn children?

    Why are the left wingers holding up on the budget, to save funding that is used to slaughter unborn children?

    No matter what your stance or position is on that topic, does it make sense to not pass the bill over it?

    Reasons they should pass the bill: We can't afford to spend anymore money (doesn't matter where you stand on the issue) we flat out can't afford it.

    End of debate. If you can't afford it, and it's not necessary then cut it. That's how you balance the budget and cut debt.

    Something the left has never thought about before. You can't spend your way out of debt. You can't tax the people enough to spend your way out either.

    It's time to cut. Are you listening nancy, barack, reid?

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 8, 2011 1:20 p.m.

    Liberal Ted...what a misnomer. Why continue to repeat the lie about abortion? You need to find a source other than Faux News.

  • NewsJunkie Centerville, UT
    April 8, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    For everyday that the government is shutdown, congress should go unpaid too, without a chance of back-pay. Because they obviously didn't do their job. We would see how fast they would get their differences resolved.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    April 8, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    Read between the lines here, folks.

    1) Republicans by large majorities are opposed to compromise. The tea party wants $61B in cuts, no less.

    2) Boehner proposed $38B, Obama and Reid agreed. (The Dems went far beyond halfway in meeting the GOP on cuts.). Boehner withdrew the offer.

    It's pretty crystal clear who is opposed to any kind of agreement.

    A majority of Americans will remember the anti-government party's actions. The GOP's not interested in compromise and will only (apparently) accept their own proposal as the goal posts shimmy & shake and move on rails. I don't know anybody who would consider this negotiating in good faith.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    April 8, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    The problem is, Liberal Ted, that what you think we don't need and what I think we don't need may not necessarily be the same thing. Your idea of what we don't need does not supercede my idea of what we don't need. A real negotiation would be to sit down and say, Here's what I say we don't need and here's what you say we don't need; let's cut each in half. Or, here's one thing that is important to me: You can take that away; and I will take away one thing that is important to you. I don't believe that is what is happening. I believe it's a cut-all-or-keep-all negotiation. And by the way, I think negotiations need to come to an end and it's time for these folks to start compromising. That's how grown-ups are supposed to do it. But then, we're not dealing with grown-ups, are we. We're dealing with spoiled kids!

  • The Reader Layton, UT
    April 8, 2011 1:54 p.m.

    The Tea party are showing a complete lack of any compromise. The county cannot run without compromise on both sides. Teh tea part asre showing their true colors.

  • mamaof3 Syracuse, UT
    April 8, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    As a vet, I am appalled that there is even the possibility our military would not be paid! Most families live pay check to pay check. Way to add stress to a soldier in war! Every day our government is shut down, congress should remain holed up until we come to an agreement! No days off, we don't get paid, you don't go home!

  • homebrew South Jordan, UT
    April 8, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    Liberal Ted::: LISTEN::Federal funding of elective Abortions are Illeagal. Did you understand that time. Do you get it. Planned parenthood provides cancer screenings and pap smears and other health needs for women who cant afford it. NOT abortions. They are not funded . Are you listening?? Your party should preach about spending. It was your party that took us into 2 unfunded wars, and spent trillions on Medicare prescription plans, Unpaid for, and then give tax breaks to the rich to pay for it all. Doesnt that sound stupid? Hey Ted,, Who is the only president in the last 40 years to preside over a balanced budget??? Hint:::: It wasnt a republican. End Of Story.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 3:01 p.m.

    'What prevents a woman from just going to a doctor like everyone else and using her insurance or medicaid to pay for it if she can't afford care?' - Tami | 12:50 p.m.

    Your using the assumption the woman HAS insurance or medicaid to justify denial of coverage.

    And if they dont?

    *'Wellpoint Drops Coverage For Some Women With Breast Cancer' - By Mary Ellen Egan - Forbes Magazine - 04/23/10

    *'GOP budget plan would revamp Medicare, Medicaid' - By Andrew Taylor - AP - 04/05/11
    'It would leave Social Security untouched but shift more of the risk from rising medical costs from the government to future Medicare beneficiaries.'

    Since we have muiltiple posters verifying that no federal dollars are going to abortions...

    and abortion has been legal in the United States since 1973 (Roe vs. Wade)

    I'm not sure why, 38 years later, we still need to have the debate that we...

    '...are cutting funding that supports the murder of innocent unborn children?' - Liberal Ted | 1:02 p.m.

    This is not an issue.

    It hasn't been for almost 40 years.

    Except for those who purposefully give out wrong information to further an agenda.

  • CP Tooele, UT
    April 8, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    I don't know what "war on women" has to do with this. But, I just wish the government would grow up. Maybe all this should be turned over to some 5th graders and things will get done..so IS the government smarter then a fifth grader?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    @we the people

    "So, not subsidizing abortions is a war on women? "

    Federal funding cannot go to abortion. The war on women is the fact that Planned Parenthood uses 97% of it's resources on non-abortion related items like birth control, STD and cancer tests, and other women's health issues. Only 3% (none of it being federal money) goes to abortions.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 3:23 p.m.

    @JustGordon-

    I don't watch faux news which I'm guessing is your clever way of saying fox news. ha ha very funny.

    But now to get serious again. So are you telling me that planned parenthood never has contributed money to an abortion?

    Again, it doesn't matter what your stance is on the issue. Obamacare is going to cover these women anyway. So why are funding them twice over?

    We can't afford to cover person just once, no less double and triple insure them.

    It's time left wingers grow up and become adults and learn to be responsible for themselves. Government wasn't made to babysit us. Come on Gordon be a big boy, you can do it. Take off the diaper and put on the big boy pants. You're going to be an adult soon!

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 3:29 p.m.

    @Pagan

    "I'm not sure why, 38 years later, we still need to have the debate that we..."

    I'm not sure why barack is still blaming bush for all of barrys messed up policies. Wait a minute barack went on vacation again, when the country is about to shut down. That's a true leader. He is soo cool that he can vacation and rise above it all. Forget the fact that he failed to pass a budget over the past year when he controlled the house and senate.

    My guess is, he knew he would lose the house. And was hoping to have this debate and pin the blame on republicans. Remember Schumer when he said that the caucus decided to use the word "extreme" as much as they can to describe the tea party and anyone who opposes them?

    It's time to take this country back. If you don't like it, then let's split the country up. Conservatives get a part, the left wingers get the other part. We'll divide it by population. Then we can rule ourselves with our own ideologies. Let's see who comes out ahead.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    April 8, 2011 3:32 p.m.

    The government shuts down every weekend and I have never noticed any difference in my life. The government shuts down on every holiday and I never noticed any difference in my life! Let the government shut down, we have to get their out of control spending stopped somehow!

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 3:39 p.m.

    Here's a compromise.

    Cut all funding to planned parenthood.

    Here's how you make a plan. When you find that special someone that you want to give yourself to. Then plan on getting married, propose, make wedding arrangements, get married. Very simple.

    If you choose not to go that route, then you get to deal with the consequences of your choices. You can pay for that out of your pocket. Not mine.

    There are situations where an individual had no control on what happened to them. In those situations the hospital will provide for the victims care. The attacker after receiving their sentence, will have their property taken and sold. The money will be used to take care of the victim.

    Very simple. There might be a few things left to work out, but, that should give a decent starting point.

    Now here comes the complaints that I am heartless. Yet everything I gave will satisfy and be just to everyone in society. Unless your a left wing person that feels you need to steal from others via taxes to push your agenda.

  • Dewey Hewson Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 8, 2011 3:41 p.m.

    Federal law already prohibits spending federal funds on abortion! Good grief, people, at least TRY to inform yourself of the facts.

    The war on women which Republicans are waging has NOTHING to do with abortion; they just want you to think it does so they can win the public's support for it. What they will be doing is cutting cancer screenings, medical advice, reproductive health care for the poor, and countless other services.

    I know Republicans only care about people before they are born, but now they are willing to hold the entire country hostage to force that through, and it's beyond ridiculous.

    Don't let them get away with it.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 3:49 p.m.

    'Wait a minute barack went on vacation again, when the country is about to shut down.' - Liberal Ted | 3:29 p.m.

    For the record. - first 19 months in office

    Obama - 65 days
    Bush Jr - 120 days

    At last count I can find, Obama spent 77 days on vacation, as of 08/12/10.
    Please feel free to correct this number.

    Total time for George W. Bush?

    1020 days on vacation.

    That's almost x3 years.

    As many like to point out, George W. Bush spent almost more time on vacation as president of the United States... (1020)

    then JFK factually WAS president of the United States. (1036)

    If we took that 77x4 (2yrs vs 8yrs) Obama would have spent....

    308 days on vacation compared to Bush, for 1020.

    That means Bush took x3 times MORE vacation than Obama.

    Liberal Ted, you do not dictate, what the country, does.

    And, since Obama and the Dems submitted a budget x6 months ago to the Repubs...

    who filibustered it...

    it would seem neither does Obama?

    Difference?

    He is trying to make ALL of our lives better.

    Not just those who agree with him.

    Do, keep up.

  • Cedarite Cedar City, UT
    April 8, 2011 4:28 p.m.

    Liberal Ted, even if a woman follows your perfect plan, she may still want to limit the number of children she conceives via birth control, or still might get cervical cancer and need a pap smear to find it. Marriage doesn't prevent cervical or ovarian cancer, nor does it automatically include financial capacity for the rearing of an unlimited number of children.

  • donquixote84721 Cedar City, UT
    April 8, 2011 4:29 p.m.

    All these Politicians need to be recalled and replaced with a Congress that has the best interest of the Taxpayer at heart. We also need term-limits, line-item-vetoes, Congress on Social Security and with the same retirements as all Taxpayers.

  • bigsoccer Syracuse, UT
    April 8, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    Why is everything the republicans fault in this article, just curious?

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 4:47 p.m.

    Hey liberal Ted, Besides planned parenthood. What would you cut? Our massive socialist job program(aka the military), are you going to take less on YOUR social security? What about Medicare when you get to retirement age? Or are you going to tell people without health insurance to die instead of the medicaid program. Because we really have 2 options to get out of this mess. One is to make cuts to one of the programs i mentioned about, or we have to increase revenue(aka increase taxes.) So what is it? Or do you really think that cutting planned parenthood funding will solve all our problems?

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    April 8, 2011 4:54 p.m.

    So much misinformation. Obama proposed a FY2011 Budget on February1,2010.

    Congress reviewed the President's suggestions, budget committees set target spending levels, and appropriations committees hammered out spending plans, creating 12 separate appropriations bills.

    They passed two of the 12 bills by the end of July,2010:

    Military/Veterans Appropriations Bill
    Transportation/Housing Appropriations Bill

    Because the 111th Congress had to deal with previous legislation that forestalled another Great Depression, and they wanted a long-term perspective on Government spending, they had to revisit the $14Trillion debt cap.

    That is the core debate right now.

    To allow time for this important analysis, debate, and planning, Congress passed temporary Appropriations Bills.

    If the D-controlled Congress had wanted to pass all 12 Appropriations Bills, they could have without regard for Republicans.

    That they did not is evidence that Republicans do not have the market cornered on fiscally responsible thinking in Washington.

    Opportunistic Tea-Party Republicans in 112thCongress are trying to take credit for opposing "Obama's spending spree".

    What nonsense.

    They are grandstanding over hot political topics such as NPR, abortion, and the like... holding the nation hostage for their own political agendas. They are cowards.

  • scambuster American Fork, UT
    April 8, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    The Democrats says the disagreement is over Planned Parenthood, the Republicans say that the disagreement is over the budget itself, but my concern is that if it is entirely about the budget, then why did the Republicans attach "riders" to the budget bill? Republicans have complained in the past about Democrats attaching issues to bills that have nothing to do with the bill, but now the Republicans are doing the same thing. It seems that the Tea Party is behaving in the same manner we have seen in Washington over the years. What a disappointment! People elected Tea Party candidates to deal with the budget, not obfuscate our financial problems with a social agenda as we are clearly seeing in this bill. Shame on them! It is time to vote then entire lot out of office.

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:01 p.m.

    It would just brake my heart if they cut federal spending for abortions. I'm feeling all weepy inside. Really, is that how you get pregnant?

  • facts_r_stubborn Kaysville, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:06 p.m.

    I'm ok with hardball if you know you can win. The democrats did it with Obama Care because they had 60 votes in the Senate, and they could.

    The new republicans are not very good at math apparently. So for all they have done is make it likely that the deficit will go up, while they shut down the Government. They can also brag to the loud and angry tea party faithful that they kept their promise not to compromise. Woop de doo! What about actually making progress on reducing the deficit? Instead of insisting on a continuing resolution barbed with partisan objectives, agree on a budget cut number and fight the social battle straight up or down.

    The fact is you either have the votes or you don't. The republican/tea party whatever it is today, doesn't have the votes yet to get the job done. Again, is it better to make real progress, through compromise on reducing the deficit, or better to thump your chest in claiming to be pure, even as the deficit continues to mount?

    Better save energy for the real battles on entitlement programs. Tea party, show me the beef.

  • facts_r_stubborn Kaysville, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:16 p.m.

    Proof positive that the 87 tea party freshman don't care anymore about the strength and prosperity of our nation, than most other politicians. They are much more concerned with getting the limelight and making headlines.

    They and their supporters chant "Shut it down, shut it down..." like raving lunatics without a brain. Limited government is not no government. Shut down the government long enough and you will seriously burden the economy, send us into a double dip recession and eventually ensure the chaos of the ungoverned. Of-course no one expects a shut down to last long. Just long enough to score a few political points at the expense of others.

    Politicians of all stripes should be ashamed of their reckless behavior and inability to deliver real solutions. Every elected member should clearly understand that deficit spending can't continue at current levels. This fact alone gives budget cutters tremendous leverage and power.

    However, instead they play meaningless and reckless games of brinksmanship. if they shut down the government they will only increase the deficit, slow or stop the recovery, increase unemployment, and further depress GDP and tax revenue.

  • homebrew South Jordan, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:18 p.m.

    Planned parenthood provides contraception to low income women, that prevents probably a million abortions a year. If your against abortion, why would you be against planned parenthood? NO federal money can be used for abortions. Also the republicans are attaching a ryder to the budget resolution that strips the EPA of some powers. Like to regulate clean air. Why, if you like to breathe , would you be against the EPA? And another question, Why after all you've seen in the last decade from republicans , would you vote for one of them? It just boggles the mind. For those who can use theirs.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:20 p.m.

    No funding for planned parenthood (back door abortion) - nice try Harry!

  • facts_r_stubborn Kaysville, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:24 p.m.

    Some will say, yes but look how much yelling and chest thumping has got us so far. However, the only reason the Republican party is able to wield any influence today, is again numbers. They achieved a majority in the house and eliminated the democrats filibuster proof majority in the Senate. It has nothing to do with an unwillingness to compromise.

    In fact, Congress needs much more real discussion on substantive and detailed issues, and much less political hot air and baseless demagoguery. It's been gridlock and acrimony for several sessions now, and where as that led us? A dysfunctional government that wildly swings from extreme to extreme. Forget the label moderate, where are the pragmatic, reflective statesman? Where are the problem solvers?

    The tea party will soon come to understand that you don't celebrate victory until the end of the game. They will only serve to harden the resolve of the democrats who will never give ground when backed into a corner. The only way to win that game is absolute power, which as I keep repeating, the republicans and tea party don't have yet.

    So be quiet already, roll up your sleeves, and work.

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:31 p.m.

    No need to be condescending when communicating to me, Liberal Ted. It is not like you are talking to yourself...I am a man...I will let you worry about talking like a big boy.

  • SoCal Trabuco Canyon, CA
    April 8, 2011 5:32 p.m.

    This is the BEST thing that could happen in the U.S. for all of us.
    Just think, the Government could spend No money ($00.00). Second, they could not make any 'new laws', Third they would find out that we don't really need them as badly as they think we do.
    What a great thing for our country.
    Please,.. shut down!

  • ih8bella West Jordan, Utah
    April 8, 2011 5:36 p.m.

    This all sounds so familiar. Hmmm. Oh yeah, just like when I was in pre-school and watched other kids arguing over who got to the drinking fountain first. Same thing. Foolish and embarrassing. In this case, though, the foolish bickering is hurting all of America.

  • Wastintime Los Angeles, CA
    April 8, 2011 5:49 p.m.

    Senator John Kyl from AZ:
    "Everybody goes to clinics, to doctors, to hospitals, so on. Some people go to Planned Parenthood. But you dont have to go to Planned Parenthood to get your cholesterol or your blood pressure checked. If you want an abortion, you go to Planned Parenthood, and thats well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does."

    WRONG Senator Kyl

    According to Planned Parenthood officials, more than 90 percent of the health care services provided by the organization is preventive in nature. Each year, it provides more than one million cervical cancer screenings, 830,000 breast exams, and nearly four million exams, treatments, and tests involving sexually transmitted diseases. The federal funding received by the organization goes strictly toward these basic needs and others, such as birth control and annual exams. In fact, just three percent of its work is related to abortion.

    And the funding of Planned Parenthood is why Republicans are willing to let the govt. shutdown?
    SHAME ON THEM

  • Selznik Saint George, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:52 p.m.

    There will never be any progress on the deficit until really big chunks of money like subsidies to farmers and oil companies, and unnecessary tax breaks for corporations,many of whom thus pay no tax at all, are addressed. Cutting NPR funding is a drop in the bucket. But cutting corporation tax loopholes would anger the lobbyists.

    Also, the House could have submitted an entirely separate budget for military funding, without any riders, which would have saved a lot of grief for military families.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    This is a fine example of how much of a wedge these 'social' issues the religious lot foist on us can be.

  • suzyk#1 Mount Pleasant, UT
    April 8, 2011 7:52 p.m.

    Someone has to stand up for what is right for the United States of America and it seems the Republicans have the backbone to do that...not the wimpy democrats. It is so transparent what the problem is and who really cares...give up? Obama's expensive trips and his spending along with the democrats who think they deserve all are the ones that are creating most of this problem. I hope Boehner continues to stand up and let them know the Republicans are doing what they believe is best for this country, and hopefully they won't back down with the pressure they are receiving from the dimocrats.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    April 8, 2011 8:14 p.m.

    Pagan........How would you propose the government spend my tax money?

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    April 8, 2011 8:20 p.m.

    Go ahead Republicans.

    The mid-term elections?
    Most voters thought it was about JOBS.
    Not social issues, not even the deficit was #1.

    In case you haven't noticed, you are losing the Independents with
    the extremism in your party.
    You stand to lose nearly every demographic except white conservative men.

  • pharmacist South Jordan, UT
    April 8, 2011 8:25 p.m.

    I worked for the Fed. GOv. 15 years ago during the last shut down. I was deemed a needed worker and had to work with out pay. The Gov. claimed I was paid when CLinton got his act together, but to this day I can not prove to myself that I was paid in full. We were told that we had to work or we would be let go. Try telling Visa; Home mortgage; gas stations etc that I can not pay you now, have to wait till the GOv. pays me. Perhaps if Obama and all the rest in DC has their money cut, then it would be a short shut down.

  • Christy Beaverton, OR
    April 8, 2011 8:55 p.m.

    People who feel good about a potential government shut down because 'we won't be paying for abortions anymore', nor for 'big government to run' for a while, REALLY need to educate themselves.

    I'm embarrassed for you.

  • 1Infidel APO, AE
    April 9, 2011 12:18 a.m.

    What the dems and liberals and media truly fear is that we wouldn't notice the government shutdown at all. Or, worse yet, that we might actually like it.