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  • oh ye confederacy of dunces Flushing, NY
    April 7, 2011 10:42 p.m.

    Excellent article. And seriously, where is the national spotlight on these corrupt execs padding their disgusting pockets? How did NCAA football turn into a filthy money laundering front. We need to take the power back.

  • Y4LYFE Lubbock, TX
    April 7, 2011 11:28 p.m.

    Somehow I'm reminded of an article from 1996 in which this same author slams the bowl alliance about their poor choice of leaving BYU out. (IE-BYU is the pre-existence of BcS realignment (the very reason utah/bs/tcu ever got into a BcS bowl)).

    Anyways, the behavior doesn't shock me one bit. In fact, I'm surprised he didn't get promoted.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    April 7, 2011 11:33 p.m.

    And we are supposed to be surprised by the BCS ethics? Yea, right. We should all be outraged, with with the likes of Junker and his friends, this will be blown over and forgotten.

    When was the last time you bought a Tostitos product? Dont' buy another Tostitos product and the sponsor of the Fiesta bowl will surely take notice and this BCS thing will be cleaned up.

  • Common Ground Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2011 11:50 p.m.

    The immediate response by the BCS to try to distance itself from the Fiesta Bowl was so obvious as to be laughable. The real question is where is the response from the NCAA, the real owners of NCAA football, saying the BCS needs to clean its house or the NCAA will sever all ties with them? Where is their outrage? What are they doing to protect and defend the colleges, players and fans?

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    April 8, 2011 12:23 a.m.

    Hey utes, welcome to the corrupt BCS! Don't step in the crap!

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:49 a.m.

    Your overwhelming hatrid of the BCS makes your reporting anything but fair or impartial. It becomes laughable.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    April 8, 2011 4:37 a.m.

    To gobigblue: Everyone should be offended by the BCS. The column is on the money. The question is now why isn't the NCAA? Why aren't you? Not being disrespectful. Just asking.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    April 8, 2011 4:55 a.m.

    What IS exactly the NCAA's role in all of this? What would happen in the NCAA stepped forward with a playoff proposal and said they would actually do something? Why don't they? That would be an interesting story...

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 8, 2011 6:10 a.m.

    "Your overwhelming hatrid of the BCS makes your reporting anything but fair or impartial. It becomes laughable"

    Agreed.

    It sounds like the dnews has been mandated by the corporation to grind the axe. Trust me, if the denews "home team" got an invite from a BCS conference this story would have never seen the light of day.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    April 8, 2011 6:49 a.m.

    Oh please! Really, the shock and indignation is a little over the top. In every organization where a few hold the prized seats, you will find someone who has acted outside the lines of propriety. From sports organizations, to corporations, Wall Street, politics, and even in side churches, there are those that use their power to improve their own condition.

    This is not a BCS issue. It is a "win at all cost" issue. It has become morally unacceptable to come in second place. Fighting the good fight - and losing - is looked down upon. Sports team boosters want their teams to win, at all cost. It happens at the U, and it happens at the Y.

    Just look at the comments here in the DNs sports pages. People say things they would never say outside the realm of sport to other people. And yet, when it comes to sports, all morals and ethics are thrown aside in support of the team.

    It is therefor shocking to me that this writer pretends to be shocked by this. This is nothing more than what is expected, and is old news just like the question if Barry Bonds cheated.

    Enough indignation.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    April 8, 2011 8:39 a.m.

    Business is business but if they are getting my tax money to attend strip clubs, the plug needs to be pulled on any subsidies or tax advantages.

  • Kiboo West Jordan, Utah
    April 8, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    Utah fans won't complain - we know who butters our bread!

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 8, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    Doug...You need to contact ESPN'S "The Herd". Collin Cowherd in Big 10 country has plenty of outrage about the Fiesta Bowl scandal and a total disdain for what he says are alledged financial coverups going on right now at the Orange bowl. Perhaps some of you Sport Hacks need to really get out there and do a little investigative work before 20/20 or 60 minutes get a hold of the story and run with it. That's probably the reason for the sudden silence The big boys are holding onto what is really happening for their own stories.

  • slgs5aggie Cedar City, UT
    April 8, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    First of all, is this not horrible writing. To introduce and talk about a topic, "Fiesta Bowl scandal" and not once describe or give detail about the actual scandal?
    Second, Nothing will change, Nothing, until the schools take a stand. Someone at some point has got to say "NO, thank You" to the BCS. Just for once be willing to turn down some of the money, and tell them to shove it. If everyone agrees that the BCS is a crock, but yet they all play their game and give in to them, because they are the ones that hold the purse, then stop whining.
    It is easy for most sports fans to see the vast difference between the NCAA basketball tournament and the month of bowl games. Which would you rather watch?

  • gonefishin67 Kaysville, UT
    April 8, 2011 8:58 a.m.

    Where's the outrage?

    The BCS is helping to raise my children. They are helping me pay my taxes. They are an overwhelming force for peace and tolerance in the Middle East. The were the first in and have vowed to be the last out in Japan. They have single handedly brought our deficit under control. They are the only force who is dealing with the drug cartels in Mexico.

    I think we need to spend all our time, energies, and money on this outrage!

    (or maybe it really doesn't matter)

  • AZ Dave Chandler, AZ
    April 8, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    Standard Operating Procedure.Kind of like the Winter Olympics in SLC

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 8, 2011 9:10 a.m.

    Hello Doug! Where have you been? Do you not realize how wide spread this is in all of business, government, and public charity's? Almost every executive from most any company, government level, and charity has the same thing going. Look around and you can see it right here in your own back yard. Do you read your own papers front page? I'm not trying to justify this but it is common place. It is not just the big bad BCS as you vilify. It is part and parcel to the greed in every aspect of our lives. Just deal with it and move on.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 8, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    I liked the article and the detail is brings to light. I believe the BCS is totally corrupt and has been for a long time.
    Because of money the BCS good ol boys will fight to the death to keep it this way.
    Because of money the NCAA will do nothing. They are totally gutless and have been bought.
    Because of money many of the nations top football programs will continue a corrupt system.
    Because of money the networks will jump through hoops trying to secure rights to the bowls they way they are.

    The players and the fans deserve a playoff system. It would be fair and would end the monopoly of the big bowls being held at the same place every year. This is the biggest fear of the BcS execs. The extravagant life style they get to enjoy would end if they had a playoff and the games were all played at the highest seeded teams stadium with the exception of the championship game...Just like the NFL.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    April 8, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    106 out of 120 schools go under - well dah, NCAA need to step in and boot those bcs big rigs off the planet.

  • MizzouBlue Carthage, MO
    April 8, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    What will happen when the dust settles? About the same as what happened to Auburn & Cam Newton, because he supposedly knew nothing about his dad's efforts to get money from the highest bidder!

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 8, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    AZ Native...yes like what the IOC and the USOC tried to perpetrate until the UTOC got rid of the USOC's handpicked crook and got Mitt Romney to replace him turning what was looking like a minus 2 million dollar debacle into an 11 million dollar success. Those BCS stiffs get Fortune 500 salaries and bonuses for hosting one single game...and they still feel they're owed more to the point that they steal money from the very conferences that they are built on top of. ESPN's Collin Cowherd has an earfull as to why the NCAA needs to get a handle and take back College football from the Coroprate thugs that stole it away from the fans.

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    April 8, 2011 9:53 a.m.

    Doug, Doug, Doug,

    Why so frustrated?

    These guys have found their little heaven on earth. Why do you have to rain on their parade?

    These guys are special. They are god's gift to man and football. They are, like our politicians, better, or a higher grade of human than the rest of us.

    Leave them alone. Let them have their place. After all, they really ARE better than everyone else...more deserving.

    Sheesh.

  • Me, Myself and I Blanding, UT
    April 8, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    Let's face it being outraged over anything tied to the BCS is a waste of time. College football fans have been outraged over the organization and the way they do things since day one. If the outrage would have been expressed it wouldn't have changed anything in this case either. If the BCS, NCAA and all those tied to the BCS cared about the fan's outrage we would have a playoff system in Div. 1 or the FBS by now.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    April 8, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    The Big Dance

    In April 2010, CBS and Turner Broadcasting agreed to pay $10.8 billion from 2011 to 2024 to carry the NCAA mens basketball tournament. The new contract is worth $771 million a year.

    The BcS

    In the fall of 2008, an agreement was reached in which ESPN will pay $125 million annually through January of 2014 to broadcast the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar Bowls, and the BCS Championship Game the network already had the rights to the Rose Bowl.

    After the completion of the 2010 college football season, the BCS distributed $142.5 million of revenue from its five bowl games to the 12 conferences and independents in the FBS.

    Experts have predicted that television rights for a 16-team major college football tournament would be worth between $700 million and $1 billion.

    Thanks to the archaic bowl system, major college football is leaving over $500 million on the table, while fatcat bowl executives are siphoning off millions from "charitable" bowl funds.

  • Pete1215 Lafayette, IN
    April 8, 2011 10:28 a.m.

    I find it sad that people can read about such outrages and respond with "it is to be expected", or "so what". I think college sports have gotten pathetic anyway, but these BCS thieves have moved scams to a new level.

  • Mesa Coug Phoenix, AZ
    April 8, 2011 10:55 a.m.

    You poor delusion Ute fans that think this is just jealous BYU fans complaining. Read the artile again. This is huge in Arizona. There are state legislators that are going to loose their jobs and there are people who are going to be indicted and serve jail time. Look at the examples of where the money has been spent that are reported in the article and you tell me if any of these three bowls still deserve to be around.

    I don't like the BCS and this might provide the motivation to get rid of it but to say that this type of activity is normal or that BYU fans are jealous just puts you into the same group of individuals that are running the corrupt bowls. At the very least, the NCAA or states should take over and run the bowls.

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    April 8, 2011 11:14 a.m.

    gonefishin67 | 8:58 a.m. April 8, 2011
    Kaysville, UT

    The equivalent of your reasoning would be:

    "Why should we worry about this person cheating on their taxes, I was robbed!"

    "Who cares if you were robbed, my daughter was raped."

    "Who cares if your daughter was raped, mine was murdered!"

    Your logic is one of the reason corruption grows nearly unabated in this world. We should be outraged at ALL corruption.

    Pick and choose movies. Pick and choose shirts. Combating corruption is not a matter of prioritizing, it is a matter of making it unacceptable.

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz Provo, UT
    April 8, 2011 11:36 a.m.

    I too find it disturbing that people don't get upset about this. It's like the people who say about the Giants fan that was assaulted "He was wearing Giants apparel at Dodger Stadium, he had it coming". Really??

    People find these things acceptable? Corruption like this is acceptable or even expected? That is a sad statement on society.

    I find it outrageous that part of my money as a student is finding it's way into these people's pockets.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 8, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    Let's be honest tds fans, the elite BCS conference prograns aren't complaining. And at the end of the day.... that's all that matters. It works for them and if the Non AQ teams want something different for themselves...then create something different... and by the way, good luck.

    I'm not saying what the BCS is completely above board but neither was the replay at the SDSU game...again if it works don't mess with it.

  • Grover Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 12:06 p.m.

    The BCS corruption is so obvious to everyone, that it is ignored. The similar corruption in business is also quickly forgotten. The big missing piece in Doug's article is that the NCAA is as corrupt as the BCS. How much further do you need to go that the NCAA President pulling down a $2 mill salary plus bonus? The guy must be really smart and deserve every penny.

    The only logical arbiter is the Federal Government, but then we can already hear the screams of the right even from this distance. The modern standard of ethical behavior has moved from "its either right or wrong and everyone should know the difference" to "it's not illegal". So we will continue to wallow in this swamp until they are all indicted.

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 8, 2011 1:30 p.m.

    Hedge,

    You're schtick is now completely in the realm of the absurd. How hypocritcal of any Ute fan to now fully embrace the BCS when only 3 years ago you were all lambasting the unfairness and corruptness of the "Good 'ol Boys Club" who "robbed us of a National Championship". Hypocritical indeed.

  • rnoble Pendleton, OR
    April 8, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    i think the action of the bcs in reprimanding the fiesta bowl speaks to the monopoly charges---if the bcs really does have the power to black ball the fiesta bowl that proves the monopoly and now the justice department can take steps to break it up just as they did at&t---

    frankly it has always been about the money and the ncaa failing to step up---nothing at all needs to be done about the bowls if the ncaa would only act---they took years but eventually wrested the playoffs away from the nit in basketball---they could sponsor playoffs in division 1 football with or without the bowls if they wanted to---they know how to do it but they don't have the will to do it---lets get after the ncaa to create the will---

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    April 8, 2011 1:58 p.m.

    hedgehog

    "I'm not saying what the BCS is completely above board but neither was the replay at the SDSU game...again if it works don't mess with it."

    Saying the BCS is not "completely above board" is like saying the Titanic was not completely water tight.

    And really, trying to equate an error in judgement with blatant graft and corruption shows just how detached from reality you really are.

    The BCS is standing in the way of a tournament that would dwarf The Big Dance in fan support and excitement, and would generate four to five more revenue for everybody than the BCS. FIFTEEN meaningful games, instead of one, to determine a champion on the field.

    And the only thing preventing that from happening are a bunch of good ol' boys wearing bright-colored blazers and busily lining their own pockets.

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    April 8, 2011 2:02 p.m.

    What none of this mentions is that going to a bowl itself is a junket. How can a school possibly lose money going to a televised bowl game? Because school officials, coach's wives, players wives, bands, cheerleaders, trainers, janitors, busboys from the school cafeteria, all get to go to the game.

    It is time to start putting money into player stipends and not into multi-gazillion dollar training facilities, not into katrillion dollar recruiting budgets, and not into multi-million dollar coach's salaries. Kyle, Bronco, Rose, even Kwhatever are making dollars of the scale LaVell, Wooden, Lombardi never dreamed of. How is that? Revenue has increased, a million Little-Red-Hen hands are in the cookie jar, but the players' hands get slapped. Train for hours a day for 52 weeks a year, neglect your studies, but whatever you do, don't get paid in proportion to the revenue you generate.

    I made more money in my summer job during school than every guy playing ball at my college got from his scholarship, and yet the PAC will pull in $20-$25 million in TV revenue. Fair? No.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 8, 2011 2:20 p.m.

    " were all lambasting the unfairness and corruptness of the "Good 'ol Boys Club" who "robbed us of a National Championship". Hypocritical indeed."

    Very true. But let's be honest EVERY non AQ would jump at the chance to join the Good 'ol boys club.... including the Y.

    Saying anything else would be..well hypocrital.

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 8, 2011 2:28 p.m.

    Re: In My Humble Opinon

    I agree that it's sickening and appalling the amount of money the wrong people are making off of the student-ATHLETE. But paying them, in my opinion, is not the answer because then they become professional athletes. Take away their amatuer status, which resonates with a lot of fans as being combined with passion to play only for love of the game, and they lose a lot of their appeal. If you start paying college athletes then I believe that fan interest diminishes and the aura of college athletics is utlimately diminished.

    Maybe the Olympic Model is something to consider where the athletes are allowed to profit on their marketability through endorsements but do not get paid for competing in their actual sport. That, however, wouldn't change how universities, boosters, the NCAA etc. profit off of the athletes through ticket sales, memorabilia and TV and I also believe it would hurt smaller programs since the star athletes would consider even less than they do now of attending a school where there is less exposure.

  • Skippy West Jordan, UT
    April 8, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    1.4 million government grant! Are you kidding me? No wonder we are so messed up. Everyone is tanking because of the economy but sports and athletes salaries just continue to get higher. I want a piece of that!

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 8, 2011 2:38 p.m.

    Hedge,

    What you fail to understand is that belonging to an AQ BCS Conference does not mean you belong to the "Good 'ol Boys Club". The "Good 'ol Boys" are the ones that line their pockets through greed by capitalizing on a system that is unfair and cronyistic. We're all pawns in their corruption and the reason why the likes of you sit back happy and sing their praises is because they pay the AQ Conferences well to not speak out against the very system that makes a very few very wealthy. You're just a puppet in the hands of men that only care about becoming rich, that have no honor and could care less about the sanctity of competition.

    It's time it changed.

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 8, 2011 2:45 p.m.

    "Very true. But let's be honest EVERY non AQ would jump at the chance to join the Good 'ol boys club.... including the Y.

    Saying anything else would be..well hypocrital."

    Ohhhh burnnn!!!

    Yes I trully expect all you BYU fans to encourage the Y to turn down that invitation to the Big 12 you so covet if and when it ever arrives!!

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 8, 2011 2:45 p.m.

    Hedge,

    The difference between you and me is that even though I may aspire for my favorite team to belong to a conference where they are given an equal opportunity to compete for notoriety, exposure and national championships, I will never praise the BCS like you have done. What is unfair yesterday and today will be tomorrow. What is morally corrupt does not change just because your perpective might change.

  • rnoble Pendleton, OR
    April 8, 2011 2:51 p.m.

    skippy, you blew it---the sentiment expressed, "i want a piece of that" is exactly the problem with fighting corruption---we should say "i don't want any part of that and i don't want you to have any part of that either"---in fact we should be doing all we can to remove the money power in our culture and lives---we should be acting in our jobs and in our fun just because we want to do it or enjoy doing it and that is what student-athlete really is supposed to be---even if we don't know what deals our dads are trying to make behind our backs---

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 8, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    Re: Ibleedcrimson,

    I guess we have to spell it out very carefully. What's hypocritcal is ridiculing a system as being unfair just a few years ago to only sing it's praises and infallibility now. Having a desire to belong to a conference that increases your exposure as a program and your ability to actually compete for that ultimate goal that every athlete and fan aspires to--a National Championship--is different than embracing the concept of the BCS as being fair and going as far as to label this article a snowjob and that it would never have "seen the light of day" had it been the "hometown" team that got a BCS invite. Ignoring the appalling corruption outlined in this story is what I mean by "embrace".

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    April 8, 2011 2:55 p.m.

    "Yes I trully expect all you BYU fans to encourage the Y to turn down that invitation to the Big 12 you so covet if and when it ever arrives!!"

    When it comes, I'll still be opposed to the BCS system because it's an utterly foolish way to detemine a national champion.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 8, 2011 3:05 p.m.

    "You're just a puppet in the hands of men that only care about becoming rich"

    I'm assuming "you're" means Utah?

    In such case I would recommend you reading the UofU article concerning the lucrative revenue sharing deal with the PAC12...I'm guessing Utah has no qualms about being "the puppet". How does such a lucrative deal come about? by leaving many programs out.

    It's all about how big the slice of pie you get and who gets what. Sure, you can make a larger pie (playoff) but that comes with a smaller slices (by adding non AQ).

  • roughd Draper, UT
    April 8, 2011 3:09 p.m.

    I'm a Ute fan, looking forward to the enhanced revenue of the PAC-12 tv deal, and the increased opportunities in bowl game, etc., but it certainly doesn't mean I think the BcS is suddenly the greatest thing. It still stinks to high heaven. When they do national polls and 90% of college football fans are against it, that's including most of the fans of BcS conference schools. As was mentioned, this is no longer the big schools against the small schools, its college football vs. a small cartel of incredibly corrupt slimeballs.

    The hundreds of millions of dollars left on the table annually is the real crime. Here we have an incredibly popular product, in huge demand. The excitement of a true playoff in college football would put the NFL to shame.

    Quit responding to hedgehog, he's not representative of Ute fans.

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 8, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    "How does such a lucrative deal come about? by leaving many programs out."

    Ahh, so hedgehog is exclusionary. Anyone surprised?

  • Spitvalve Denton, TX
    April 8, 2011 3:54 p.m.

    That bowl of Tostitos in the picture sure makes me hungry. Pass the salsa.

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    April 8, 2011 4:02 p.m.

    Power hungry executives work for hand picked Boards that facilitate corruption in our society. I've worked as a financial executive in several companies and know first hand the excesses that the rich and powerful feel they are entitled to receive. Some of these men had started these businesses and they seemed to respect the wealth better because they had known poverty, risking everything to build their dreams. Generally, it was the second or third generation that disrespected the hard working legacy of the founders and just wanted to party hard. I saw many expense vouchers come through our accounts payable department for lavish trips, expensive gifts and high priced art, cars and planes. Executives do these things knowing that the IRS generally ignores most of these type expenses because they are approved by the federal tax code. Eventually this type of behavior will stop if our elected leaders pass effective tax reform. Don't hold your breath because most of them are already too corrupted to want to change the system. Elect good people for our representatives and hold them accountable every election cycle.

  • Ernesto de Bajo Albuquerque, NM
    April 8, 2011 4:29 p.m.

    I really wish I knew how it came to be that NCAA Division 1 was renamed the FBS, Football Bowl Subdivision.

    I'd really like to know this. This renaming in my view reinforced the B in BCS at a time when it was becoming clear that the best way forward would be an NCAA playoff instead of a BCS system organized around "elite" bowls. It is almost as if the NCAA was buckling to the bowls at a time when it should have been asserting is responsibility to hold a playoff.

  • John20000 Cedar Hills, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    Don't watch BCS games. Don't buy the products they advertise. What else can we do?

  • Razzle2 Bluffdale, UT
    April 8, 2011 5:33 p.m.

    You can like the PAC 12 and still hate the BCS. To defend the BCS is to say that Utah was not the disputed 2008 National Champions, which they clearly are.
    I wish the 2008 team was still here so Utah could continue to bust the BCS by embarassing a qualified conference in their first year. But, not to be, so it looks like many Utah fans will just swallow the 2008 controversy quietly and lay low.
    C'mon original BCS Busters don't quit now! The BCS does not feed you, the PAC 12 does.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 8, 2011 5:47 p.m.

    'C'mon original BCS Busters don't quit now! The BCS does not feed you, the PAC 12 does."

    Razzel,

    You do realise without the BCS the PAC12 would not be guaranteed a BCS bowl game (muliple BCS games in a good year). that's millions of dollars out of the Utes pocket.

    I suspect Utah will not be honking the anti-bcs horn anytime soon.

  • Buffalo1 McLean, VA
    April 8, 2011 7:11 p.m.

    The BCS and associated Bowl Games are turning NCAA Football into "NFL Lite", right down to the fraud, the excess budgets, the trashy entertainment, and the overall fraudulent (and probably criminal) misuse of tax-free funds. The university presidents involved are derelict in their failure to reassert control of this. If anything screams for an NCAA sponsored football playoff, this mess is it. If it's not fixed soon, the BCS and the massive amounts of uncontrolled money will destroy the sport of college football. The college basketball tournament works great -- it's time, and actually well past time, to chuck a spear in the heart of the BCS and go to a playoff system that includes all Division 1A champions. Smaller non-playoff bowls could work like the NIT does for basketball. It's time, folks ... gotta get it done before the sport we love is destroyed by money and greed.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    April 8, 2011 8:09 p.m.

    Listen to roughd. He is correct.

    "Quit responding to hedgehog, he's not representative of Ute fans."

  • Joe Watts Holladay, UT
    April 8, 2011 9:17 p.m.

    There were 54 comments when I read this story.

    ALL OF THEM, 100% were made anonymously. They are all entirely worthless.

    When will the Deseret News upgrade its comment section? Why would the Deseret News encourage anonymous comments? Sure, if people had to sign their names they would be more thoughtful and that means they would be more careful in their comments and bring a higher level of intellect and objective discussion.

    Why not?

    Joe Watts

  • Razzle2 Bluffdale, UT
    April 8, 2011 10:29 p.m.

    If there was no BCS, the PAC 12 would still have the Rose Bowl. The PAC 12 would be better off if there was a real National Championship playoff.

  • Woodyff Mapleton, UT
    April 8, 2011 10:41 p.m.

    I think the BCS needs to be replaced by real playoffs - but this article just sounds like sour grapes.

  • Woodyff Mapleton, UT
    April 8, 2011 10:50 p.m.

    Joe, my comments would not be any different. But people need their privacy.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    April 9, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    Unfortunately, the "amateur student athlete" will eventually succumb to the trash heap of history, as did the once "amateur Olympian athlete". Remember that time period? It wasn't that long ago. Professionalism cannot be stopped.
    Money screams.

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    April 9, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    hedgehog, you do realize the BcS didn't invent the Rose Bowl, the "Granddady of them all," don't you?

    Probably not.

    The BcS didn't invent bowls. They just turned them into a cartel.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 9, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    "you do realize the BcS didn't invent the Rose Bowl, the "Granddady of them all," don't you?"

    Humble,

    Yes I do. Infact the BCS was created in part to stop such travesties that happend in '84.

    Let me ask you this, How many PAC12 university presidents have a problem with the BCS.

    crickets crickets crickets

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 9, 2011 10:01 a.m.

    Only ever brought up as a 'travesty' by BYU-hating supposed Ute fans. Who could possibly expect them to recognize the consensus, unanimous National Champion? Much like the Jimmer sweeping the 9 major POY awards and claiming it a farce. It is good comedy though.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 9, 2011 10:35 a.m.

    "Only ever brought up as a 'travesty' by BYU-hating supposed Ute fans"

    Naked.

    You might not like the word but this is Y the BCS was created. And every big conference president signed off on it.

    I know all byu fans can't see the other side of the argument. Y? because it doesn't help your cause.

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 9, 2011 11:39 a.m.

    It wasn't created because it was a 'travesty', brainiac. A mid major won a legit NC and the schools with the money didn't like it. So they designed a system that would forever leave out the possibility of a mid major winning it again. It worked, hence Utah was left out in 2008. The Bowl Coalition and then the Bowl Alliance was created. Because of the anti-trust issues associated with them, brought on mainly by what BYU did in 1996 and 2001, also as well as great seasons by TCU and Tulane during this time, the newly formed BCS was compelled to include the lesser conferences. The first beneficiary of this inclusion was Utah in 2004. Worked like a charm because the Utes were just happy to be there and didn't worry about being shutout of the opportunity to go for an NC.

    You actually believe it's a foolproof plan to ensure undeserving programs don't get a chance? They've duped you because it's really a foolproof plan to ensure that no one outside their fraternity ever gets a chance. How quickly the newest PAC-12 member has forgotten 2008!

  • bucko Salt Lake City, UT
    April 9, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    GOOD ARTICLE....so, where is the best place to send our voices of disgust to?
    That place needs to receive a flood of complaints. I always knew there were some fat slobs collecting money from this. Meanwhile if someone buys a college athlete a Happy meal from McDonalds, an entire college is in trouble! Sounds like the corrupt world of today's high and mightly filty rich!

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 10, 2011 7:33 a.m.

    Hedgie
    You may as well go ahead and eat those crickets. They and numerous worms and grubs are the major source of protein in a hedgehog's diet. It's been long established by myself and others that the 1984 Holiday bowl with it's winner i.e BYU... the totally unquestionable consensus selected National Champions did in fact tumble the holy grail of College Football by being the only bowl to Crown a National Championship from a game not played on College Football's Sabbath...New Years Day... or in their 3 holiest shrines. The Rose, the Sugar or the Orange Bowls. Yes...BYU was indeed the reason for the BCS. You have in your overly obvious jealousy just made the distinction of being the first Utey to publicly admit the truth. Congratulations!!!