Are Utah's GOP leaders now in jeopardy? Yes. They all are.
I find it funny that Mr. Webb calls out his fellow 4th Estate brethren at the
Salt Lake Tribune for coming down hard on Governor Herbert. Isn't that what a
newspaper is supposed to do? Point out the failings and the successes of our
elected politicians? The Trib has praised the Governor on numerous occasions. By
calling him out on HB477 it was fulfilling it's duty to it's readership and to
the people of Utah. The last thing we need here in Utah is for either of the 2
major daily newspapers to become yes men for the two major political parties.
Utahns are finally waking up.I predict a lot of repubs being sent
back to REAL jobs this next election.
Thanks to the quick passage (HB477) antics of the Utah state Legislature, Utah
government now surpasses the majority of other states to become the 'secretive'
government. Instead of government by and of and for "we the people",
it is now, 'by and for a FEW in the Government'. How ridiculous, braze- nous,
and dangerous that in a day and age as ours, state legislators and Utah politico
pundits in the public eye, would aspire to uphold the "best scenario"
(Pignanelli's words) -- to remove from public eye and scrutiny any governmental
transparency by removing from the wall, the public's right to the wall
'light-switch' that would keep the brightness of light burning in ALL 'hallowed'
chambers of our government! Why, in a Republic form of government would any of
us wish to grope for secretive or isolationistic government? Only the virulent,
vermin and villian-esque thrive--in dark places and corners of
'non-transparency'. Such principles and antics will set the body politic of Utah
back into the Dark Age standard! No man is, norno group within government
This was the worst ever session. Instead of two steps back and one forward, it
was six back and one sideways to hide behind 477. Only benefit was for buddy
systems special interests.
"The reality is that the recent legislative session was extremely
successful." WebbIf ignoring the Constitution and making
government less transparent are now the benchmark of 'success', then yes, this
session had to be one of the best ever. Mr. Webb, the people gave the
legislative session a 'C' and that was being generous. In most schools, C means
average, not excellent or 'extremely successful.' Talk to someone outside the
circle of 'power brokers' and 'community leaders' and you will see that the
PEOPLE aren't thrilled about the session. The arrogance of the current version
of the Republican party is sickening. Unfortunately, it's now 'ultra-right' to
believe in the Constitution and an open government. Out of touch is the only
phrase that comes to mind.
I would think they are in severe danger. Utah's legislature is about to become
libertarian or constitutionalist. Definatley not democrat because that would be
no change at all.
maverickRINOs will be looking for another job following the next
election. They will be replaced by conservatives.
Mr Webb would be shocked to find out that current (pre-HB477) GRAMA laws
protected a person's privacy. He's so blind in he loyalty to the
Legislature and the Governor that he ignores a poll in his own paper that shows
80% of the public want to sign the petition.
I think the vast majority of Utahns would like to see leaders closer to the
middle of the political spectrum, not more extreme members of each party.
I am looking for the articles listing the good things in HB 477. Since the
current law needed to change (even according to those that have since bowed to
media pressure), and the press has not provided public suggestions yet for a
change, I am looking for "balanced" coverage of the bill that was
signed into law.So far, all I see is the press being one sided in
the coverage, which leaves the public without the information to properly
decide. Since the legislature had sought input from the press for years, the
recent media temper tantrum seems more like the press is just lobbying the
Yes, especially the right wing that has arrogated to itself the privilege of
ignoring majority opinion of our citizens on issues where we are moderate or
Are they in jeopardy? One could only hope. However, this being Utah, they're
secure in their calling and election.
RanchHand | 6:39 a.m. March 21, 2011 Huntsville, UT Are they in
jeopardy? One could only hope. However, this being Utah, they're secure in their
calling and election. ============== Hahaha!! Agreed!The funny thing is, even Bishops and Stake Presidents are given
"term limits".I guess you'd say they've placed elected
Politicians [who they can select and vote for themselves] on par with life-long
"General Authorities".This has all the makings of a recipe
Patriot Act, bill allows the search of your private property without warrent.
Signed by George W. Bush, 2001. TSA, in the news recently about body
searches, also created by George W. Bush and a Republican controlled congress in
2001. How does our local goverment respond to charges of a 'lack of
transparency?' HB477, which factually prevents search of email &
text messages. 6 months after... *'E-mail raises new
questions about influence of Herbert campaign contributions' - By John Daley and
Lisa Riley Roche - Deseret News - 09/28/10 Gov. Gary Herbert
"should remember" that the construction company boss on his meeting
schedule is a $50,000 first-time donor who wants to talk "about
transportation construction and issues within the state." I
can't speak for anyone but myself... but I fail to see any benifit
to continuing to vote straight party. As, that party evidently see's
this pattern in Utah... and uses it to abuse power, and ignore the
demands of it's voters. Why support someone who holds themselves
What is really scary, is that this eye opening moment would never had occurred
if Herbert had not passed the bill.
Is it just me, or do Webb's glasses have a distinctly red tint to them?The man couldn't criticize a Republican if his life depended on it. Apparently
a legislative session which worked specifically toward many goals the vast
majority of Utahns are absolutely opposed to is considered
"successful".By that line of reasoning, I'd love just once
to have an "unsuccessful" legislative session in this state.