So USU was ranked #17 in the nation, but was placed behind 44 other teams in the
tournament? Doesn't seem fair to me. Oh well. Hopefully with our 30-3 record we
can beat a team with a 22-10 record.
What else do you have to do. They could have lost 8 more games, won the
tournament, and still got this seed. Gross.
This is another terrible injustice for the Aggies this year. They have an RPI
of 15 and ranked 17th in the nation and get a 12th seed. First their conference
members stiff them. Then BYU bails on them and elects to play in the WCC after
USU supported them. And now this.
Chicken crap committee. They are a top 20 team and this? No respect for the WAC
at all. I hope USU can play their A game and take it to them. Ridiculous!
USU don't let this get you down. Don't let the selection committee be confirmed
that they made the right decision. Prove them wrong. By many significant
measures you are a slightly better team than Kansas State:RPI: USU
#15, KSU #23ESPN Coaches Poll: USU #17, KSU #23Sagarin: USU #21,
KSU #25The AP is an outlier: USU #23, KSU #19USU is at
least evenly matched on paper.KSU is considered one of the hottest
teams in the country, because they beat 6 teams in a row between two losses to
Colorado. They are entering the tournament on a loss.Now 12 seeds
beat 5 seeds almost every year, but this time, the 12 seed has the better paper
resume and that is unusual. And if you win, it becomes as if you were a 5 seed.
So go take it.At least they didn't make you have to play in to
become a 12th seed like UAB and Clemson have to do.
That's a tough draw, but one I think USU can take.Go Aggies.
A team that was being discussed as a 7-seed widely, particularly on ESPN, with a
basement of an 8 or 9 in most people's eyes, gets a TWELVE? This has to be one
of the most baffling examples of the selection committee being on a different
page than everybody else I've ever seen. I'd like to see some research done to
tell me when the last time was a team with 30 wins was seeded so low? Or the
last top 25 team to be seeded so low was? This is a shocker. And it reveals
something else. If Utah State didn't win the conference tournament, if this is
truly what the committee thought of them, they probably wouldn't have gotten in
at all. Lesson learned. Never leave it up to the committee. They'll always find
a way to stiff the Aggies.
This should be a sign to the program that they are on a sinking ship in the WAC,
it will only get worse with the mass exodus of much of our quality to the MWC. I
want out. In the meantime, I wouldn't mind seeing the Ags knock off a potential
final four candidate.
I'll definitely be cheering for the Aggies. They are a very good team, probably
better than BYU without Davies. I hope they smash down Kansas St.In
fact, wouldn't it be kind of cool to see USU and BYU face off in the elite 8?
Probably won't happen, but it would be a great match up. And a huge slap in the
face to the eastern elites who disparage western teams so much.
Money grubbing, elitist BCS schools who have no integrity and zero knowledge of
anything that happens in the Mountain States.Same people who threw
Boise State and TCU into the same bowl game two years ago instead of letting
them each beat one of their schools.Same people who denied Boise
State a New Year's bowl game this year.Same people who give a coach
who knowingly hid violations a two game suspension after they suspended five of
his players five games each for those violations (fair would've been suspend him
for 5 x 5 games).Same people who formed the BCS because a
non-"elite" school won a national championship and a decade later a
New Year's Day bowl game.Go Aggies. Every fan of every school in
Utah will be rooting for you.
Aggies are better than a No. 12 seed...go in and give K-State a lose.
Totally disgusted!The only way to answer is to beat Kansas State.Go Big Blue!!!
Wo Wo what is in the water out there? Cougars actually giving us some cheers?
I'll take it I guess. Never have I been so baffled in all my life, never. I
truly feel the selection committee may be partly racist or at the very least
regionally biased. It is simply my opinion. With my complaining out of the way
let's go silence the committee and their bias, just win.JP
Yes, this is a lower seed than expected, but if USU does get an 8, next round
#1. With this secenario IF the ags win they will play maybe a #4 seed. At
least they made the tourney. The team that really got hosed was Uof Colorado.
They beat Kstate 3 times and didn't even make it. The committee really needs to
be revamped or punished for it's idiocies.
Go AGGIES! Put it to them, just like in 2001 when you (#12 seed) beat Ohio
St.(#5) seed. Find the slipper, and wear it! Be the Cinderella and prove the
committe wrong. GO AGGIES!!!!!!!!!
To be a realist, of those 30 wins, one was against the top 100, St Mary's, two
of their loses looked better then most of the wins, on the road to Georgetown
and BYU, zero wins against teams in the NCAA tournament. Can't really be to
surprised.Back to the game: IMO, this is USUs worst case scenario
for a matchup. KSU is big, can jump out of the building and thrive on in your
face defensive pressure and try and block every shot put up, plus they have an
all american guard in Pullen who made Jimmer pee his pants last year. Their
coach is Mr. Intensity with bug eyes to go with it. But if USU can hit some
threes early and build a lead, I think they could take the air out of the ball.
If the game is close at the end, KSU is terrible in shooting foul shots, but
that was without Pullen, I watched the UNLV/KSU game earlier in the year. UNLV
pulled out an ugly slugfest.
Maybe we don't like the idea of a 12th seed, given because even with 30 wins,
the schedule ended up being pretty weak. But suppose that USU was seeded at #5
because of its win-loss record, and Kansas State, even with its impressive wins,
and poll rankings similar to USU, was ranked #12 because it has 10 losses. Would
we complain? Guess what, there would be no difference in the tournament schedule
for USU in this case!! If Kansas State has one of its best games, USU probably
loses. But if not, USU has a good shot.
Two things.First, Coach, there is no such thing as BCS in
basketball. By calling it that you only perpetuate the problem.Second, I think this shows that USU needs to really work on their OOC resume.
Go out and play some of the big boys. You might not win them all but your SOS
will improve and your team will be tested. You might not get a return game but
that is the reality of playing in the WAC.Tai called it a slap in
the face but I think the committee was sending a message.No, I'm not
a troll. In fact I have a Masters from USU.At any rate I think it
is a very winnable game. 5 seeds beat 12 seeds almost every year. I'm picking
USU in my bracket!
What are all you Aggie fans yappin about? If you are that good, go out and beat
K State and make the selection committee look bad! If you have a better record
and a better team...prove it. You have the ability to go out and get the bball
nation talking by winning a couple of games. That will give you the respect and
eyes on you that you want.
Huge BYU fan here. I wish the Aggies well. The 12 seed stinks but you had a
terrific season and I think you can beat KSU. The 5/12 matchups always pull
upset wins. In your case, I don't think a win would be an upset. Remember, the
chairman of the Selection Committee is the AD at BCS - Ohio State. It always
favors BCS schools and conferences. Why? We all know that. $$$$$$$$$$$Good luck. Let's get a nice Aggie Win and a nice Cougar win and advance!
Frankly, the Aggies are a better team right now than BYU . . . and I am a Cougar
fan.BYU is vulnerable to a team with an inside game. As BYU's
outside shooting goes, so go the Cougars.Jimmer is an incredible
scorer, but having Chris Collinsworth and Brandon Davies out makes a huge
difference.Success to both teams. I think USU can give K-State a
USU did play some tough games vs. non-conference teams. It didn't help. However,
the coach needs to forget home-home series and simply but tough teams on the
schedule. Oh yea, Georgetown and St. Mary's . . .The committee
wasn't good this year with seeds. Simple. Nuts and bolts.
I am 100% Cougar. Having said that, WHAT A RIP OFF! Go get 'em Aggies! I have
you guys winning the first round on my bracket,and maybe more.
I love the Aggies and Coach Morrill but how can they expect anything different
when we continually schedule horrible teams in the pre-season. The Ags need to
dump the Gossner classic and get involved in some tourneys that have legit teams
and not jr. high programs.Good luck to the Aggies, but Stew please please
please either stop complaining about your 12 seeds every year or do something to
change it. Five years ago if the Ags would've put some teams on their schedule
we'd see the fruits of that and would have a good seed. Unfortunately Stew
thinks the world should be fair and it's taken him way too long to figure out
that's not how things work.
Yes, this is a bit of a slap, but it also is a good thing. If they had gotten
an 8 or 9 seed, like many thought they would, their next game would be against a
number 1 seed. If they can get past Kansas St., their next obstacle is probably
a 4 seed. I'm OK with this.
I agree that this is a dumb ranking, but can Utah State really complain that
much when the althetic director from Utah State is on the 10 person committee
choosing what teams go where?I like many others was baffled by them
getting a low seed but obviously he doesnt think much of his aggies!
If there is a bright side, it's that the Southwest regional is hands down the
weakest of the bunch. Pitt: weakest #1, by far.Florida:
weakest #2, considering their losses, and should have flipped with Kentucky BYU: Overall deserved a 3, but who would you rather play right now: UConn,
Syracuse or BYU? Exactly.Wisconsin: decent 4, but won't get out of the
first round when they face Belmont.Kansas State: didn't look much like a
contender a couple of weeks ago. Aggies are ranked higher and have a higher rank
in the RPI.St. Johns: Most overrated 6 seed. Just look at their early
season losses which include St. Mary's. And their without a key player.UCLA and Michigan St. are underachieving 7 and 10 seeds, who could show
up...or not. I'm telling you, if ever ther was a bracket to bust,
it's this one. Cougar fans are lighting candles to Fredettes shrine because they
didn't end up in Ohio State's bracket.This is the bracket to bust,
Aggies. Now show us.
Err, the SOutheast regional is the weakest, not the SOuthwest. Sorry bout that.
How about this....Everyone should bombard AD Scott Barnes and ask why he didn't
fight for the Aggies to get a higher seed! Yes...Our AD...Scott Barnes was on
the Committee! There is the gross injustice! I realize he is but one person
but give me a break!
Well, I have had some time to let this digest and it is what it is. Let's hope
the Ags can use this rediculous seed as some fuel to get a victory. The last
time the Aggies won in '01 I was a senior and we watched it in my Calculus
class. I think I will be able to access the game through Tru TV online at
school where I now teach English. Maybe the whole seeing it at school will be a
good omen. I sure hope so. Let's stick it to the committee and beat K-State!
All you TROLLS settle down. The "RPI" is just code for footballs
"BCS." They use it when it is convenient for them but pay no
attention when it doesn't.How else would you describe a RPI of 15
and a 12 seed? They say "Oh your schedule is weak, your conference is
weak...blah, blah, blah. What was the reason they even came up wit thew RPI?
So schools with weak schedules and conferences are "penalized" versus
those 9th seeds in other conferences.The RPI factors in YOUYR
Strength of Schedule, Your opponents Strength of Schedule AND your Conference!
So if you are in a weak conference you are penalized THREE times!!!SOOOOO USU still is #15 and gets a 12 seed. If the RPI is WORTH
anything..they should have been a 4 seed. If we are going to have a national
tourney...let's make it fair.
Normally I would be very annoyed about the 12th seed, but in this case it will
likely end up being a good thing as we will pull off an "upset". Ken
Pomroy has USU ranked 16th and Kansas St. ranked 29th, he has USU at a 60%
chance of winning the game. Wilson has USU and Kansas St. even. The NCAA BB Team
Overall Power Rating has USU at 18 and Kansas St. at 23. The RPI ratings have
the USU -vs- K St. advantage even larger.
Hey, at least one 12 seed beats a 5 nearly every year. I sure hope it's the
Aggies! K-state doesn't know the buzz saw they just walked into. A disrespected
Aggie team is going to go in with a chip on their shoulder bigger than Jacob
OK does anyone know what channel TRU-tv is?
Put the hammer on Pullen and Coach Martin. I believe the Aggies can do it.
Scott Barnes was there. Let's hear an accounting of how it went Scott. I will
reserve judgement for a couple of days or until he explains.
There is a big difference between national rankings and the discussions that
happen within the selection committee. National rankings don't consider
opponents, or the polls would reflect RPI and SOS a little bit better.The selection committee DOES consider strength of schedule and how your team
did against viable opponents. How did USU do against viable opponents? 0-2.
1-2 if you count the impressive win at St. Mary's, but they didn't get an
at-large birth.The next big thing on the USU resume is that they
defeated Boise State 3 times, but that doesn't turn any heads. Going 30-3 is a
nice accomplishment, but it is meaningless given the caliber of competition in
the WAC and the Gossner Classic. 30-3 is very misleading compared to 1-2.Coach Morrill is a heck of a coach. Getting some consistent wins in
national tournaments will get folks to recognize USU a little more. Go Aggies!
I I personally believe the commish of the conference or the Aggies mind set
people that make the decisions, should start begging for forgiveness for not
joining the MWC. There is no ways the Aggies will ever get noticed or gain any
respect is to get out off the WAC. They had their chance but thought a pledge
to stay was worth something, when the other schools jump as soon as someone
said,"GO!" Love the WAC?
Just as an FYI for those asking Barnes for an explanation. They ask the AD of
the team to leave the room when they are discussing that team. He doesn't have
any input on them. I guess he could have hypothetically complained, but it
wouldn't have mattered. I agree with what a few people have already said,
it stinks, but this is the bracket to make some noise. Make a sweet 16 and this
kind of thing won't happen for a few more years. That is how it works. I was as
mad as anyone when I saw they were a 12 seed, but given what I said above, I
would rather them here than a 8 or 9, facing the 1 seed in the second round. It is a more difficult first round game, but an easier route to the sweet 16.
Just shut down Pullen and the Aggies should keep it competitive. Let's hope for
the best. Go Aggies. Make some noise in the tournament so this won't happen
again. And please, please don't leave Logan, Stew!
I'm telling you, this is the bracket to bust.Although unlikely, how
insane would it be to have USU vs BYU in the elite 8?Nothing sticks
it to the man better than actually winning.
WHAT? Somebody is shocked about what the NCAA does....or for that matter the
NCAA Selection Committee? Come on guys it resembles an East Coast
slaughterhouse the way this comes down every year (and we all know it, right?)
It just hurts a little more when it hits closer to home. (The anti-Ute in me
says if it had happened to the Pukes, I would have cheered all night!)But it is
always the money trail and that is where the populace cities are located in the
U.S., especially the northeast and east coast. The NCAA knows who greases their
palms! Now, go you former USAC bunch and kick some K-State butts! Time for their
fans to quit mooin' and start supportin' a very good team. Go show it!
First 5/12 upset pick on my bracket!
aggies, just play like you have been and beat kansas st. let your play do the
talking and if you have to wear blue uniforms, make that the reason even more
to win it. go aggies!!
The big difference this year with the Aggies is that they have something to
prove. Previous years, all it seemed like the team worried about was getting
into the NCAA tournament. This year is different, we all knew we were going and
expected a better seed that would give us a better chance at success. With a
less-than-desired seed, the Aggies will go out with more passion and desire than
we have seen in the past. This year it isn't just "Make it to the
Tourney," it is win a few games! We have the team to do it.
I place partial blame on the media in the State of Utah. They focus on one team
(sorry) player in the State of Utah all season long. Why should the national
media types take notice of the great team and program in Logan when the local
media does not? It is the sports and news media in Utah that we have to blame.
National media pick up on other news items and chatter about the "hot"
teams in the country. They look to what others are saying, they cant possibly
watch every game themselves. Not enough time. I agree that they just need to
win and not whine about the seed, but hopefully EVERY news agency in the State
of Utah takes notice. If you dont care, niether will anyone else. BTW, Jimmer
and team will probably go down early in the dance. The teams that go far are
much deeper off the bench and in the middle. I wish it were different, but that
is the reality of it all.
Aggies get screwed again by the NCAA. Now go and and do it AGGIES!!!
USU plays a weak schedule & deserves that seed. Merrill thinks he is the
best coach in UT but he is far from it.