Great article. i love the KJV and am thankful that the King's English is still
part of our language and that the BoM was translated into Joseph's religious
language. I've tried reading children's versions of scripture (Bible
and BoM) with my children and it just isn't the same. Also, it's
interesting, as mentioned in the article, that each Prophet spoke the words of
God from their own cultural reference. They didn't sound exactly like God did
when He gave the Sermon on the Mount or spoke to the children etc, but, instead,
Isaiah spoke after the manner of the learning of the Jews, John used popular
pagan symbolism when describing his Revelation etc. Joseph Smith generally
dictated the BoM into his English (with many Hebrew, Native American, etc words
and symbolisms) yet, the BoM is obviously a translation of an ancient text, and
contains details about the Old World and American culture and geography that we
are just beginning to understand. Now, more than ever, it is evident that the
BoM, PoGP etc could not possibly have been created in the 19th Century. Yet, all true Prophets speak the word of God. Gofigure.
The Greek "baptizo," which literally translates immersion,
Wrong(baptizo,*907) to dip, was used among Greeks to signify dyeing of
garments, or drawing water by dipping a vessel into another. *Strongs Greek
concordance.One 19th-century translator was troubled by the word
"Hades," which means the world of departed spirits" Jackson said.
Wrong, ...as far as hades (adou)(Mt 11:23)4th century codex B, translation. It was James 1:5 in the KJV that prompted young Joseph Smith to retire
to the woods and pray for knowledge?If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask
God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given
him.(James 1:5 KJV). There is a difference between Wisdom and Knowledge.
Baptisma 908,immersion,submersion is the correct Greek Word.b) of
John's baptism, that purification rite by which men on confessing their sins
were bound to spiritual reformation, obtained the pardon of their past sins and
became qualified for the benefits of the Messiah's kingdom soon to be set up.
This was valid Christian baptism, as this was the only baptism the apostles
received and it is not recorded anywhere that they were ever rebaptised after
Pentecost.c) of Christian baptism; a rite of immersion in water as
commanded by Christ, by which one after confessing his sins and professing his
faith in Christ, having been born again by the Holy Spirit unto a new life,
identifies publicly with the fellowship of Christ and the church.Water Baptism read (1Peter 3:20,21) What saves you is a good conscience, or
belief towards God. Noah closed the door on the non-believers they were drowned
but the believers did not get wet, they were on the Ark. Water is an outward
symbol of belief, Saving Faith is in the resurrected Lord of the Bible.
It should be born in mind that prophet authorship is not claimed for all the
books of the Bible. The easiest one to show this with is Psalms which was
primarily written by King David. That he was influenced by good desires and the
spirit to write these passages in most cases is not in question, but that is
different than being "the word of God".There is also the
fact that God speaks to us in our own langauge and line upon line. God desires
us to act in righteousness. Correct scientific knowledge on all subjects is not
needed to do this. Thus the Bible should not be used as a scientific treatise.
The King James Debate: A Plea for Realism is to refute those who advocate the
superiority of the Greek textual tradition behind the King James Version of the
Bible. As a consequence, his effort has produced a wonderful primer on textual
criticism. The book is divided into two parts: Textual Question and Nontextual
Questions. D.A. Carson briefly discusses the origins of the Textus
Receptus (TR) and makes the case that the TR is based upon the inferior and late
Byzantine text-type. He traces the history of the TR through Erasmus's Greek
Testament. He affirms that the KJV translators used the best manuscripts
available to them at the time, but subsequent discoveries cast doubt upon the
accuracy of the Byzantine text-type vis-à-vis the other traditions. In
Chapter 7, Carson methodically summarizes the reasons why the TR is an inferior
textual tradition. If you or someone you know has been exposed to the
KJV-Only virus. A must read for LDS.
There is a non-LDS person who was invited to speak several months ago who has
done more research into the KJV version of the Bible, taking each word and
finding it to be correct. Secondly,many LDS Scholars whom cmtam basically
denies who are as affluent in the Bible as Carson completely disagree with him.
So no cmtam it is not A MUST READ, it is false teaching at its best.
Bill, "There is a non-LDS person who was invited to speak who has done more
research into the KJV version of the Bible, taking each word and finding it to
be correct. Who? Wrong,Examples:a. Therefore behold I will proceed
to remove this people, and I will remove them: and I will destroy the wisdom of
the wise, and will hide the understanding of the prudent .(Is 29:14
Septuagint)250 B.C..a. Therefore, behold I will proceed to do a marvelous
work among this people even A Marvelous Work and Wonder: for the wisdom of their
wise men shall perish, and the understanding of the prudent men shall be hid.
(Is 29:14 KJV). b.. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us
from evil (3Nephi 13:12) compare,b.. And lead us not into temptation, but
deliver us from evil (Mt 6:13&6:14JST)the KJV renders this 'deliver us
from evil,' not an evil (force), but the evil one himself. D. B. Wallace S/B,
the evil one (MT 6:13 NIV). Poor Translation.c.. "in
Bethabara"(John 1:28),c.. in Bethany " (John 1:28 NIV).P
Hi Sharrona,If you do a Google search of BYU Forum KJV Bible, there
are a few links about a forum or symposium commemorating the KJV Bible.
Professor and scholar, David Norton, from Victoria University of Wellington, New
Zealand spoke at this forum and think this is who Bill referred to.
So the scholarly answer as to why there are direct quotes/verbatum from a 1611
document in the translation of a record which purports to be a journal written
between 600 BC- 400 AD, is because God wanted the people to hear it in their own
language/idiomatic understanding?And the dog ate my homework,
teacher. I did not plagerize what is a direct plagerism of a translation that
was worked on by many King James scholars 1200 years later. Glenn Beck knows
that George Soros did it!