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  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 6:59 p.m.

    I'm excited for these players. Harris is a solid PG and I think we are going to pleased with his play.

    Favors is a hard worker and he reminds me of Shawn Kemp or Amare Stoudemire. I am surprised New Jersey gave up him the way they did before the season started.

    Doing a Google search, Derrick Favors has been in trade talks since September of last year (so pretty much before his rookie season started). How would you feel. I'm not making excuses, but I just think he has TREMENDOUS upside and with hard work and being around AJ and Millsap, he will rock the house.

    The way he moves at 6 10' (same height as Lamar Odom) 260 is amazing.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 7:02 p.m.

    Welcome!

    We are glad to have Harris and Favors.

    We hope you enjoy playing in Utah!

  • cdb salt lake, utah
    Feb. 24, 2011 7:05 p.m.

    Devin already knows the Jazz offense! I think that is true, the whole world knows the Jazz offense. It took tough guys like Karl and John to make it work anyway. The Jazz don't have any tough guys anymore. Time for a change. I hope coach Ty can do just that. I am very excited about the new guys. I like what the Jazz just did as far as this trade goes. I don't think Deron was going to stay after next year.

  • Motappin Sandy, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 7:18 p.m.

    Welcome to the new guys. Hope you like it here. :)

  • Utah.sports.fan Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 24, 2011 7:19 p.m.

    A big Utah welcome to Harris and Favors. Hopefully, you guys can bring some of the spirit and fun back to our team with your upbeat attitudes.

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 7:29 p.m.

    If Favors turns into a Stoudimire (sp) and with our draft picks we could (KOC don't screwthis up) we could be a contenders in the west for years

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 7:54 p.m.

    The Jazz have always been great at growing new players. From John Stockton (the 15th or so pick) to Milsap (40th pick?)....even Fesenko is doing OK
    They really haven't had anybody like Favors before. Hopefully he just works hard and conditions...

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 24, 2011 7:57 p.m.

    @CocoNutzz

    I agree...we might get a shot at Harrison Barnes...with that pick...or we could make a draft day trade...and trade Devin Harris or Al...for another high pick...we could get Perry Jones...or a stud pg in Kemba Walker or Kyrie Irving...im hoping Favors Turns into a better player than amare...or Amare minus the injuries...we would have a solid core right there...if we ever land Kemba Walker and Perry Jones/Harrison Barnes

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 8:21 p.m.

    I am excited to see what these players can bring to the table, who knows, we might might shock the world!
    GO JAZZ!

  • nottyou Riverton, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 8:22 p.m.

    I love that in this day and age of technology, the Deseret News includes pictures of the new and old players meeting for the first time...nice!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 24, 2011 9:07 p.m.

    Harris is an above average PG. He will run the team well. He is also very quick. However, He is not a great shooter. He needs wings who can shoot. DWill used to provide some of the shooting. Harris can't and should not try to play that role.

    The Jazz are not likely to get a free agent shooter. They will just have to try to get everyone on the same page and do the best they can the rest of this year. Maybe Bell and Hayward can find a shooting touch.

    Favors is a primary reason for this trade. The Jazz wanted him badly. He may be as good as DWill in a couple of years (different position). He should be ready when AJ and Millsap's contracts expire. In the meantime he is a quality back up who should improve quickly with playing time.

    The Jazz will have to add shooting and may get a DWill type replacement with one of the draft picks in the next couple of years.

    KOC should fix the wing problems by the start of next season. If there is enough shooting and defense in the wings the Jazz contend.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 24, 2011 9:25 p.m.

    Bugoff: Once CJ gets his confidence back with Jerry out of Utah, CJ will start to knock down 3's like crazy and get to the rack. Don't count CJ out. With Dwill gone, he will get more plays ran for him.

    Bell needs to get his shot back or be traded.

    AK's money will buy the Jazz a shooter for next season. Until then, get used to losing...........

  • JP Chandler, AZ
    Feb. 24, 2011 9:38 p.m.

    @CJ Miles
    Why? Why after years of evidence to the contrary, do you still continue to believe that CJ will suddenly live up to the potential we all saw in him? The past six years tell me it's not going to happen. CJ's pretty good when he goes to the basket. He's streaky at best from the outside.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 24, 2011 9:44 p.m.

    Corbin

    Please focus on the shooting efficiency of CJ, Bell and Hayward. The rest of the season hangs on their ability to open up the inside game for the bigs and for Harris to penetrate.

    CJ is shooting 41 % 2s and 33 % 3s That is down from years past. He is taking to many bad shots or is forced to take shots since the offense has bogged down.

    Bell is shooting 43% and 35%. Hornacek may be able to help him.

    Hayward is shooting 45% and 37% He needs to shoot more.

    The Jazz are not adding a shooter and lost DWill who was shooting 46 % and 35% while Harris shoots 43 % and 30 %. He is not a 3 shooter and may not be that effective in pick and roll.

    The Jazz live and die on offensive efficiency.

    The outside shooting and the quality of the defense determine if the Jazz make the playoffs.

    OKC, NO and POR all got better via the trade deadline. DEN and MEM may have improved a little overall? Ending the Melo circus helps DEN. Battier is not going to hurt MEM.

    Some small adjustments may pay big dividends? We need shooting efficiency.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 24, 2011 10:07 p.m.

    JP: In Jerry's offense, CJ was told to stand on the 3 point line and watch the pick and roll. If the play broke down then he would get a pass late in the shot clock and have to take a 3.

    Hopefully with Corbin, they will involve him earlier in the offense and set screens for him. Get him some one-on-one opportunities to drive to the rim.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 24, 2011 11:12 p.m.

    Outside of Utah it was assumed AK would bolt to NJ at this seasons end. That may not be true but it reduced his trade value. There were a lot of expiring contracts available. AK's primary value is as a player who will resign for reasonable. That is reduced if you have to out bid NJ.

    DWill is a PG. He is a great one and can take over a game when it matters the most. However, a great PF/C is harder to get/replace for most teams.

    DWill can be replaced with an above average PG who can run a team well and an efficient shooting wing. Further, DWill probably had more value to Utah with it's complex offense than he has to most teams. NJ wants him for his star power.

    CJ

    I hope you are right about improvement, as the season depends on it.

    I used to rag on CJ but I have sense realized that Sloan used him to shoot late in the clock and to stay back to defend the fast break.

    The Wings may shoot better with offensive tweaks. Sloan under utilized the 3. That was a major weakness.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 24, 2011 11:14 p.m.

    @CJ Miles...

    you are still blind...have you ever watched what the shooter must do on offense?...have you ever watched Jeff Hornacek or even Kyle Korver...play that role?...they set screens...they rotate...they move without the ball...if you are a good player in this league...you must move without the ball better...to get open...CJ is lazy...i would rather get Taylor from Sacramento rather than him...there are some players given the shot of 25 mins...can proivde scoring...tony allen can be a huge help...with just 25 mins...on both sides of the court...im just saying...CJ is and will never be an all-star in the NBA...he could be a good role player if he wants to...but never an all-star

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 24, 2011 11:53 p.m.

    A thought just struck me. With Harris and Favors the Jazz are much better prepared to play the Lakers.

    The last 2 years HOU showed that best way to attack the Lakers is with a lightening fast PG going right at them. Harris is very fast.

    Further, Favors can match up with Odom, Bynum, Gasol better than Boozer who faded against the Lakers. Millsap (like Scola) went right at them. AJ seems to do like wise.

    What is lacking is wings who can shoot so Kobe can't sag back and pack the paint and gum up the offense.

    When will the Jazz EVER learn? Maybe now that Corbin/KOC/Greg have taken over?

    The Jazz also have to improve on D. What ever happened to the defensive grading after every game? The Jazz played better D when there was personal accountability. The D ratings need to be done each game and published every week. The criteria and grade should be plainly spelled out for each defensive ability along with an overall grade.

    It may tick the players off but it would create a culture of D the is badly needed.

    The fans would take a lot of interest.

  • josemb navotas, philippines
    Feb. 25, 2011 1:51 a.m.

    i've seen harris play for many years now. he is a good point guard--not a williams great point guard--but good enough to score and run a team. if corbin can utilize his offensive skills well i think harris would be a fine jazz point guard. i also think the jazz have adequate inside presence, ofensively, with millsap and jefferson. maybe favors can provide the much needed rebounding and shot-blocking. like most of you, i think a couple of efficient outside shooting wings would be the jazz's greatest need. if only we have that right now. a healthy okur with his old shooting touch would be a great bonus. i wouldn't mind if the jazz tank the rest of the season to get a high draft pick. but i think this team has too much pride to let that happen.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Feb. 25, 2011 2:38 a.m.

    The Jazz still need another long athletic defender in the rotation and another shooter. What I do not understand is how did Portland get Gerald Wallace so easily without giving up much like Cunningham and Joel P for him?

    I feel Harris will not shoot as well but he will get teammates even more involved, more focused on D and less turnovers. The key is Favors to this deal. This means he needs to be developed and play quickly and not sit.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 25, 2011 6:55 a.m.

    Right now..I really like the looks of these changes. And there's potential for others, still possible to come. Time will tell...not only for what these two can bring to the team... but also... keeping in mind, that Corbin is also new as a head coach. Hopefully soon...we'll be able to see what he can too. A factor in and of it's self.. just as critical. I think if the Jazz had kept Williams he would have eventually become a distracting factor in Corbin's own development. So let's see this team get started and pull this team together.

    Scoobie

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 8:12 a.m.

    I think Favors is a perfect complement to Milsap and AJ. Just about every Jazz fan was saying in the off season that what we needed was a big athletic shot blocking big man, well now we finally have one.

    If the Jazz would have won the draft lottery I think there is a good chance they would have taken Favors over Wall, or at least traded down to get him. I had him number 2 on my draft board and I'm very excited he's here.

    As for Harris, I think he's in a situation here where he can thrive. NJ didn't have anybody in the post that could be relied on offensively. My only concern about him is is outside shooting.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 25, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    cj just needs more minutes,thus more shots,he needs at least 40 minutes and 35/40 shots per game to get his 12.3 average

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 8:50 a.m.

    Welcome to the new players. Too bad there is stil so much schemeing done by CJ and Bugoff. Check your calendars as the trade deadline came and went and thus the Jazz's ability to move players.

    Now wait til the season ends before you move half the team.

    Your insights continue to amaze me though. You are promoting Hornacek as the saving grace of the Jazz shooting core. When reality kicks in you will see that nobody on the team short of Deron is a shooting threat in the league. The teams shooting coach has been Hornacek for the past 3 years and the team has lost most of its confidence in shooting.

    Nobody in the NBA feels threatend by the Jazz shooting the ball. They now resemble Brewer when they get in the open. Since arriving at Utah, Bell and Hayward have experienced huge shooting funks.

    History has proven Hornacek can no more teach shooting than Pavorotti can teach Bugoff to be an opera singer. Just because you can do it does not mean you can teach it.

    For whatever reason, Hornacek got promoted so maybe now Utah can hire a real shooting coach.

  • Markogarp Olympia, WA
    Feb. 25, 2011 9:09 a.m.

    Question to you all: Do we get Tomic next year as well? Has anyone followed his progress?

  • HaveANiceDay Ogden, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 9:33 a.m.

    Doug10 is just wrong about Hornacek. He is a great shooting coach. Anyone that can get AK47 to make any 3 pointer must be good.

    The comments about needing a shooter are spot on. With the loss of DWill that will be our weakness, and other teams will exploit it by packing everyone into the middle. That will stop AJ and Milsap's inside game and will shut down Harris, or CJ's penetration game. No offense will be coming out of Utah until we show we can shoot outside.

    There is one more that you all are forgetting that has potential to help us out of this problem. He is big and slow and has had a big injury, but he could just stand on the 3 point line and hit the shot consistently. Lets hope that Memo will come back in and hit some shots.

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:01 a.m.

    Patience Jazz fans please! The new players haven't even played one second yet and here we are making comments that mean absolutely nothing. New coach, now new players, plus some expiring contracts and a top pick, to me looks like a bright but unfulfilled future. I am absolutely charged about the potenial. D-Will besides being a malcontent was on his way out of town and now he's saying the same thin in N.J., so good ridance. Welcome new men and good luck I certainly hope everything works as well as it looks like it can!

  • Calgary Calgary, AB
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    HaveANiceday: you have short memory... AK was making more 3 pointers then any other season before Hornacek starter training him.. granted % was not as good but he had games with 4-5 3 pointers made so it was not so bad as you trying to picture.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:36 a.m.

    Houdini is right!

    If Stern would make the teams play more games (92 or 102 instead of 82), cj would get more minutes, and more shots, he has only been in the NBA for six years. He just doesn't get enough shots. If a new commissioner was in place I know cj would be an All-Star!

    I don't think it is fair that Wes Matthews should flourish as a legit NBA player with only 1 year in the NBA. cj is far superior to him in all areas...he just needs more shots.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    The key here is that Favors is 6'10" and only 19. I believe that Corbin can have a great deal of influence on him. He is a "puppy" with lots of potential. Fez is another puppy. If Corbin can coach, he can develop a very good team. It has also been stated that with the first round picks that there are very good point guards who can also be brought in on the "ground floor". I believe now that they can make the playoffs.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    With the arrival of Favors the minimal minutes Fes received will now approach zero. Corbin has given him less exposure than Sloan so far. And with Favors here, Jazz may not renew his contract in the off-season, which would be too bad. I may be blind, but I think he still has potential on both ends of the floor.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 11:14 a.m.

    @Iowa Jazz Fan 2

    I think you are right. They will likely give most of those minutes to Favors to help him develop.

    I also think Fes has potential, but I tend to believe that he is just lazy. The other night Harpring was pointing out the gaping holes in his game and if he doesn't quit being lazy, I dont see it changing sadly.

    If he had the work ethic of Karl Malone hed rock, but some players just dont have that drive, you cant really teach that.

    Remember how mad Karl got about "fat butts coming to camp" (I think he was referring to Ostertag."

    Like you said, too bad.

  • Your dead Uncle Saint George, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 11:32 a.m.

    I would gladly give up some of our overflowing potential for a little performance.

  • Viva Los Jazz Garland, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 11:56 a.m.

    This trade will hurt the Jazz this season and they are currently a lottery team. However, this trade could end up like the Hershal Walker trade as well like a caller on the radio suggested yesterday. Devin Harris is a streaky shooter but he was a one time All Star and will be a solid starter. I worry about him being able to hit the 3 but I like his size at 6-3, 180 and he's quick and great on defense. Derick Favors was the best big man from last year's draft but is a couple of years away from giving 40 minutes of production each night. He dissapointed the Nets in the preseason so that's why they wanted to trade him so soon. At 6-10, 250, with a 7 foot plus wing span, and leaping ability, he has a great physical skill set but so did JaMarcus Russel. The Jazz are the perfect team to develop him since they have had success with guys that are 6-8 and 6-9. We were able to develop Deron into a superstar so we should be able to do the same thing with Favors.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    Thanks again to KOC and Greg Miller for pulling the trigger on the Deron Williams trade to the Nets for Harris and Favors, including draft choices. If they become acclimated and are comfortable being in Utah and fitting in with the players, it will be good. My fear is the Jazz still have such players as AK who is on his way out after this season (hopefully) who may be a negative influence in the locker room. This is flyover country. It will be culture shock for the new players. And right now, the Jazz are a team like the Nets, ie not a playoff team or near future contender. Based on what the Jazz have been doing recently, one may expect maybe 3 or 4 more wins over the course of the remaining schedule. This is what Deron saw. The Jazz have fragile players always suffering debilitating injuries. This trend has been devastating to winning, even against the trailing teams in the league. This has a cumulative effect on the attitude of all the Jazz players, as in they don't have a winning frame of mind. Favors and Harris should both start immediately and do their thing. JAZZ!

  • LAJazzFan Stevenson Ranch, CA
    Feb. 25, 2011 1:18 p.m.

    For the life of me, I don't know why the Jazz didn't get Morrow as part of the deal (maybe throw in Price to make the numbers work). Even us couch-sitting- know-nothings know that the Jazz desperately need a good shooter at the 2. If he had been part of the deal, I would feel more confident that the Jazz would have a chance at the playoffs this year.

    Although I hope this trade works out, I can't help but wonder if the Jazz could have kept DWill if they had aggresively used AK's expiring contract now or his salary next year to nab another star.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    @LAJazzFan

    I'm just curious, with that cap room, who would they go after to keep Deron here? Who did you have in mind?

    I mean, no way Dwight Howard is coming here ever. Who do you think the Jazz could have brought that would lead Deron to re-signing a contract?

    I really do want to know your suggestions. Because I just don't see who they would have brought that would keep him here.

  • LAJazzFan Stevenson Ranch, CA
    Feb. 25, 2011 2:10 p.m.

    I agree that there are a few players that would not be willing to play in Utah as they have their choice to play anywhere (I would number them at about 10). However, offering $15-$20M would entice a large number of others. We got Boozer that way, didn't we?

    SLC might be a little backwards, but it is beautiful and is no worse a place to relocate to and live than OKC, Detroit, Charlotte, etc., etc.

    My fear is that the Jazz are on the path to non-relevance as they just their hall of fame coach and now their last star. Tell me a team that does well in the playoffs, or even gets to the playoffs, without at least one star JazzRule?

    The emotions of Sloans departure and the blame (perceived or real) of DWill being at fault were a little to new and raw and seem somewhat like a knee jerk reaction.

    If the Jazz become a perenial lottery team, are you going to gripe about the Jazz brass as many others certainly will?

  • templarreborn Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    Welcome Derrick and Devin the new Double D offense! You look to be two quality players joining a quality team! GO JAZZ!!!!

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 2:51 p.m.

    I am 100% with you on living in Utah. It's a great place to live. I don't know why it gets a bad rap just because its not New York or L.A.

    It just has that stupid stigma about it that its boring. It has plenty going on in Salt Lake and good skiing, golf, and boating.

    I don't know what will change the stigma, but I wish more players would give it a shot.

  • Claudie4 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 2:53 p.m.

    If Corbin is worried about Harris's shooting, then he ought to tell him how "hard" Stockton and Malone trained to become better shooters...its not Rocket Science. Practice, practice, practice.

    I wish the guys good luck tonight. And a thought about "Williams"....I don't think that the Jazz could have traded him to a worse team...except maybe the Cavs. Interesting thought about where "Williams" should go.....

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 2:53 p.m.

    I was just asking if you saw some 2011 upcoming free agents that you thought would persuade him to stay here?

    Anyway, it's in the past. Not our problem anymore, we control the situation now instead of going through what Denver did.