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As Utah's immigration battle brews, Sen. Luz Robles maintains her voice

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  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 12:45 a.m.

    No mention about Robles working for the country of Mexico trying to influence immigration laws in the US while head of the Utah Office of Ethnic Affairs?

    Pam Perlich is always good for a quote ignoring the law breaking. People are resentful of the law breaking, not immigration. Come here legally under the law, and there is not a problem.

  • Ironweed Chattanooga, TN
    Feb. 21, 2011 3:59 a.m.

    So, a Hispanic has a suggestion for keeping all Hispanics here? Wow, how novel. No amnesty of any kind, and that includes special cards that allow them to stay because they decided the US will be Hispanic.

  • JBrady Murray, Ut
    Feb. 21, 2011 4:45 a.m.

    A mention about her working for the government of Mexico to influence US immigration, should be included in any story. It is part of her history, and helps explain some of her motivations.

  • joelwisch Albuquerque, NM
    Feb. 21, 2011 5:40 a.m.

    Deseret News can find a dozen reasons to reject a post in opposition to the article, but the opposition merely grows angry. Denying freedom of speech to selected opinions is a very ugly censorship.

    Illegal aliens are ... illegal. They are not allowed to vote, and they should not be represented by any but the immigration lawyer that attempts to mitigate their problems. I think we call that ... aiding and abetting Luz. Try representing Americans instead.

  • Middle of the Road Home Town USA, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 6:18 a.m.

    Ms. Robles has a huge conflict of interest here. Thank goodness she cannot "legally" run for president!
    To quote the article about Robles:

    "She is giving immigrants false hope, they say, because the bill is unconstitutional. Legally, they argue, the federal government cannot give a state the power to allow undocumented immigrants to work."

    The Coalition of Progressives, sounds like the Nancy Pelosi group who ramrodded the Obamacare through and shoved down our throats ignoring that it was also, 'unconstitutional.'

  • Emophiliac Vernal, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 6:55 a.m.

    Why doesn't Robles look at getting existing Federal programs more efficient, if her goal is to somehow make it easier for foreigners to work in Utah? Instead she wants to create some new bureaucracy? If, and only if, businesses were to cover all of the costs associated with illegals in Utah, it might be valid to have such a program. And if the businesses covered the costs of all of the unemployment that resulted. But, until that happens, no sanctuary.

  • jim l West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 7:03 a.m.

    Why does the DN push this on us?

  • donquixote84721 Cedar City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 7:11 a.m.

    I have friends from many cultures and i have a love of different cultures, but the people that are pushing to change the immigration laws in the United States, should be working to change the laws in their home country, where all their citizens would be FREE to govern themselves.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    I admire Robles for being there for her people, but working outside the law is still illegal in this country.

    the groundswell in Utah is against letting the illegal people reside here. The cost is great to the state as far as education dollars, medical dollars, administration dollars.

    Yet the illegals care not for the state or the cost over runs or the breaking of laws, instead they insist they do not have to abide the country's immigration laws. Many of them fill the prison system so they do not choose to abide other laws. Their background and education are not a good fit for this country.

    They seek to impose themselves on the state asking for legal people to leave them alone and overlook their illegal activities and lifestyles.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Feb. 21, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    This non-story is a waste of paper, time, and ink.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 21, 2011 9:07 a.m.

    I really really liked two parts of this bill. First that they need to pass a criminal background check. I couldn't agree more. This is my favorite area of discussion on this matter. I can just see all those illegal immigrant/illegal criminals lining up to do that. Will it be done in a multiple choice or True False format and... will they need a conceal and carry permit for their illegal guns that many of them will have...or... will they be allowed to check them at the door???

    Secondly, I do agree whole heartedly that they must learn to speak English first. So how much are their home countries paying towards the bill for us to teach them English??? Just so I know how many one dollar bills that I'm going to have to put in a cookie jar ahead of time. And will you be taking the supplies for this project from our grade school children or from our secondary students??? Like everything in this issue...will those supplies be going in and out through the back doors or will someone up front be there keeping track.

    Well that's somewhere to start...Right???

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 9:16 a.m.

    NOT the answers we need to curtail an invasion that's grinding this nation to a fine powder of third-world performance and universal poverty. You want to be "charitable" and "compassionate?" Go to the other countries with VOLUNTARY resources, and help them create a decent habitat there. Importing all their weaknesses and problems here won't solve anything for anyone in the long run. There's a lot of silly sound off going on . . . but there's also a time for intelligent and definitive action. People like Stephen Sandstrom are trying to make progress; people like Robles obviously never will.

  • Legal? Saint George, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 9:24 a.m.

    "The truth is Luz has an image problem with the Latino community," said Tony Yapias of Proyecto Latino de Utah. "She's become a part of the system and she's forgotten who she is all for political gain."

    Luz is in a pickle, for sure. She came in the "right" way, is a U.S. citizen, and took an oath to uphold the law when she took office. Add to that her working for the Mexican government to ease immigration problems and she has a real conflict.

    I had to laugh at the statements that illegals have limited access to health care. Gee, so do some real U.S. citizens.

    Legislators, PLEASE stop making Utah a magnet for illegals. If you stop building it, they will go AWAY.

  • calou84523 Ferron, Utah
    Feb. 21, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    Funny the rest of the world has come to realize diversity does not work . . . . yet American left-wing liberals and progressives (read communists) keep pushing it. Why is it that people like Lobles and her left-wing, liberal, and progressive cohorts can't understand that these people are breaking the law and are criminals even though legislators, like Robles, have swore to uphold the law and the constitution?

  • michaelitos Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    Keep it up Sen. Robles!!! I'm so glad that someone creative and compassionate like her is working on the immigration issue.

    To the Deseret News (and Elizabeth Stuart in particular), thank you for shedding light on the legislative backdrop surrounding surrounding Robles apropose bill. I sincerely hope it passes, if for no other reason than to show the Federal Government that there are comprehensive solutions available if they would just be open to consideration.

  • Ender Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 9:45 a.m.

    Luz Robles. You rock! Thanks for not buying into silly taglines like "amnesty" (as if that were a bad word).

    You've got a good head on your shoulders with the inventiveness of your immigration bill. It's the right balance of enforcement and dare I say it, "compassion" (as if that were a bad word, too).

    Even if it doesn't stand up to Federal legal muster, it's a way to show the Federal Government that there are answers, if they could just be a little more creative.

    I hope the bill passes!

  • Casca Orleans, IN
    Feb. 21, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    A despicable example is the Sanctuary State of California that is still suffering from a $24 Billion dollar treasury loss and still being monetarily ransacked by illegal aliens education, health care, public programs and overcrowded prisons. Join the TEA Party as they are fighting for smaller government and less taxes extorted from your wages.Already a million plus Taxpayer's have investigated truthful illegal alien welfare costs, population statistics and your chance to fax for free the leadership in Washington at NumbersUSA pro-sovereignty organization. NumbersUSA and hundreds of grass-roots groups and associations will never accept another amnesty, any defacto amnesty such as the Dream Act or any method to legitimize the minor or odious criminals who snubbed our laws. More and more American citizens are being victimized by illegal aliens, thanks to a half finished fence.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 9:51 a.m.

    So she believes we are resorting to "racial profiling" to address our illegal immigrant problem. Can I just point out, that anytime any of us are pulled over by the authorities, even if we just have our license plate light burned out, our identities are compared to a warrant database. It is not a big stretch to also assess citizenship among the criminal concerns. Or should I cry "racial profiling" every time my identity is compared to a warrant database??

    Senator Robles is not looking beyond her own images. There is a much bigger world that she is ignoring.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 21, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    @Jay Tee...That reminds me...
    And oh yes Mrs. Robles how do you find the time for such glorified and devisive work... especially when one of your collegues like Mr. Sandstrom and others are spending such valuable time on a really much more important matter. You see it's really important right now for them to protect the rights of another even more important minority group. I'm sorry but immigration issues will just have to take a back seat to the rights of few elite student athletes, their parents, coaches and a few Lawyers.

    It seems, that an organization known as the Utah High School Activities Association... which was created to oversee and to regulate all High School activities, for the nonsensible purpose of ensuring the welfare for all Utah High school age students...and not just an elite few has come under fire from the legislature. How dare this oranization put this elite minority group in a position where they can't pick and choose to go and build their athletic careers any where they want to at taxpayers expense. After all High School is about sports not Academics. That would be so Unamerican. bring on the litigation.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    The position of the Deseret News on illegal aliens is a sign of the apocalypse.
    Just imagine what we are seeing here; a traditional organ of the GOP in the reddest state in the country pitching de facto amnesty for illegals.
    It can only mean that Mormons have elites as well.

  • krunner South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    Illegal, legal, unconstitutional, constitutional. It really doesn't matter. These are human beings that we are talking about. Human beings whose living conditions are so deplorable that they are willing to be "illegal" in an attempt to escape it. It is sad, to me, that when they come here, that despite the treatment they get here, it is better than where they were.

    The solution to their problems in their home country is muchh more complicated than many would think. A lot of the issues comes from the illegal acts of Americans and their insatiable demand for drugs. We bear some responsibility here.

    What kind of conditions would make you do something illegal? Don't say you would never do anything illegal. All of us would, given the right conditions.

    Whether or not Sen Robles bill will pass or not and whether or not it is constitutional or not is besides the point. It has sparked some creativity and thought of those in our country trying to solve a very complex problem. I don't know if this is the answer or not, but maybe it is one step cloer to finding it.

  • Alan D Kearns, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    When I go to Mexico, Canada or just about any other country in the world, I am asked for my papers and if I intend to work I must register with the government AND POSSIBLY purchase a work permit.
    Why should THIS country not do the same?
    I understand that we all sympathize with the plight of people from impoverished nations, but this is a nation of laws. If we want to make life better for some of the people in Mexico, let's streamline the immigration process.

  • rawlshea Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 10:21 a.m.

    Senator Robles represents a possible positive future if the naysayers will reflect for just a moment. Walls and immigration restrictions have never worked. We need to educate, exchange and see how mutually supportative economies can help us grow out of quick sand of fear and loathing. Just as Luz realized her daughter could have been caught in the fatal traffic of illegal immigration the critics need to think of how they or theirs might be similiarity drowned but for the accident birth. Be at peace and work to make the whole world a better place.

  • tom_e Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 11:32 a.m.

    Duh - just maybe the reason the federal government does not want a lot of guest workers and a lot of visas is because the people of this country do not want a lot of guest workers and visas.

  • attentive Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 11:53 a.m.

    Where can I buy a t-shirt with "I AM legal." emblazoned across the front of it?

  • Neanderthal SLC, Utah
    Feb. 21, 2011 11:54 a.m.

    @joelwisch

    "Deseret News can find a dozen reasons to reject a post in opposition to the article [and others]..."

    I can relate to that. The DNews will reject perfectly logical and informative comments that they don't agree with, including any the are critical of minorities such as Hispanics, Muslims, and the like. No cussing. No demeaning. Just facts and opinions. I guess DNews monitors believe that criticizing minorities who are bent on either taking over this country or killing Americans is considered abusive, offensive, off-topic, or unrepresentative.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    There is no legal way for poor impoverished people to immigrate from Mexico and you if say otherwise you are being dishonest. My wife and son immigrated from Russia. $20,000.00 and that was without an atty assistance. As long as their is economic disparity betweeen the United States and Mexico we will have problems. Go Senator Rubles. You are a decent human being, unlike many others on here. I have lived here my entire life and there has always been predjudice and bigotry against hispanic people. It will never change, it is rooted in our culture.

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    Feb. 21, 2011 12:09 p.m.

    Where's Stockton ??? you nailed it.

    "I really really liked two parts of this bill. First that they need to pass a criminal background check."

    Let's see Mr. M____ Are you here legally?
    No.
    Please take Mr. M____ into custody.

    I'm for this bill

  • wrz SLC, Utah
    Feb. 21, 2011 12:12 p.m.

    "The bill they say... is perfectly in tune with what immigrants want: not citizenship, but the opportunity to work and live without fear." - Article

    That's right. They don't want citizenship. What they want is to take jobs that American citizens need. As has been noted many times on this website, America has millions of unemployed and don't need their help. Foreigners (legal or otherwise) come here and take jobs that we don't have for them. They need to go home and ask to come back when we need them.

    "About half have come from Latin America." - Article

    It's interesting to not that Spaniards from Spain took over all of South and Central America. Now they want to take over North America.

    "Whites are the minority." - Article

    Which is what appears to be the stated goal of Hispanic immigrants for the US.

    "Is this really what America is about: racial profiling?" - Article

    Not so. America is all about the rule of law. We don't appreciate laws breakers who sneak into our country and try to take over.

  • Alfred SLC, Utah
    Feb. 21, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    "Why does the DN push this on us?" - jim

    Good point. We should expect that the DN, to be fair and balanced, will print an anti-immigrant article in the near future. Don't hold your breath.

  • Miss Piggie SLC, Utah
    Feb. 21, 2011 12:19 p.m.

    "Where can I buy a t-shirt with "I AM legal." emblazoned across the front of it?" - attentive 11:53 a.m.

    Better still, get a T-shirt with your birth certificate printed on it. May send a message to a certain politician residing in Washington, D.C.

  • JBrady Murray, Ut
    Feb. 21, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    There are ways for the poor to come here legally. If they want citizenship, and according to the article, many don't, they can apply for the lottery with the rest of the world, or apply using their family as sponsors. Almost half the green cards given out are to family members.

    If the article is correct and they just want work, then accept American jobs belong to Americans in this country. In hard times very few will be needed except in agriculture.

    All of the people complaining about wanting citizenship, and now they tell us they just want the jobs. If those here on green cards that have no intention of being citizens were kicked out, we would have some extra for those who want citizenship.

  • Speak English - USA West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 1:05 p.m.

    I canceled my print subscription to the Des News about 3-4 weeks ago because of articles like this. Keep up the great work Des News, you are reporting well for the minority opinions in Utah.

    P.S. Get illegals out of our state!

  • Janell Ventura, Ca
    Feb. 21, 2011 1:07 p.m.

    The article's title, "Luz Maintains Her Voice", is pretty apt. This "voice" that cries for any and all forms of amnesty was not in place when she ran for office. Nope. As seen on her website (Robles for Senator), she didn't mention one word of her true agenda. Instead, her platforms were education, health care and the environment. Can anyone tell me what bills she has produced have any direct effects on THOSE ISSUES????
    If not, this politician deceived the voters to get elected and simply focused on her real agenda.
    We need to keep that in mind come reelection.

    Illegals need to be returned to the countries of their birth, and if Luz is so interested in their welfare over ours, perhaps she can go return with them and work for them there.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    Pam Perlich talks about people taking time as citizens to assimilate. Robles says they are here for jobs, not citizenship.

    With high unemployment people here just for jobs is intolerable.

  • Norm Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 3:00 p.m.

    I need some help. I keep reading about the illegal alliens now demanding their rights. I seen it in the Tribune this morning which is a sad newspaper, I would like to know if anyone can explain to me what are the rights of a person entering into our country illegal. They come here demanding medical help, free education as well obtaining various benefits for children also illegal or born in the USA from illegal parents. They flaunt there being illegal and in many cases even say they have falsified creditionals and we do nothing. They should not be here unless they are going through the process of becoming a American citizen through the proper requiements. Why do we have such a hard time defining the problem when they are breaking the law. Why do we condone this? If we challenge the illegal issue we are racists. They are criminals and should be treated as such. Our churches and many officals are supporting the people who break our laws. Sad when churches support illegal activity. Compassion should be shown to the American citizens footing the illegal costs through paying our taxes, job loss and most important the school negative impact.

  • activ2004 Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 3:00 p.m.

    7 pages of propaganda are not enough to drown out, in my ears, the pleas and cries of those slaves who are victims of Human Trafficking which is masquerading as Illegal Immigration.

    For those of us who are of "THE [REAL] WORLD", we will [NEVER] let the innocent cries and pleas of those who are suffering at the hands of pimps and human traffickers go unnoticed or ignored any longer.

    I just pray more ethical progressives will start to hear the same pleading and cries from those modern day slaves who are suffering torture even as we embolden the pimps and human handlers through our arguing about "illegal immigration".

    I am only one, and yet I am one and I will spend every day speaking out against the evil of Human Trafficking until every tear has been dried and every heartache of the innocent soothed (every perpetrator brought to justice) until they live with the peace and safety their Heavenly Father desires for them.

  • Hotrod Sandy, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 3:04 p.m.

    Wait... lets see

    Cop: Mr. M are you a criminal

    Mr. M No

    Cop: Yes you are, you were here illegally
    (as in Illegal Immigrant)
    Mr. M: Crap

    Charged 1,000 dollars (or pesos)
    Sent back to Mexico
    if they cross the border they will sent to California, where they are welcome

    Welcome to Rod Country

    I will be the governor in 2036

    Utah will be beter, not illegal immigrants!

  • Mary E Petty Sandy, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 3:52 p.m.

    Senator Robles is a modern day American Patriot for her efforts and leadership to establish good law for Utah workers with SB 60. Thank you for joining with the Sutherland Institute and the Utah Compact to create this farsighted and innovative law.

    You are like the heroes in American History who creatively fought against bad law: Samuel Adams (1773 Boston Tea Party vs. Stamp Act)and Thomas Jefferson (1776 Declaration of Independence vs the Crown) and Vermont (1777 outlawed slavery within her boundaries), keep it up,Luz, Paul Mero, the Sutherland Institute, and Utah Compact!

    People of good-will want Utah worker-law to be good law that is reasonable and practical, reflects Utah's unique understanding of immigrants, states rights and humanitarianism, and promotes public safety, freedom, and economic prosperity. We don't have to wait for the federal government to establish good law in Utah for our workers. Through the adoption of SB 60, Utah can lead the way in the US immigration debate about what constitutes good worker law and is in the best interests of our state and nation

    SB 60 and the Utah Compact are the right solution for Utah's needs in 2011.

  • danaslc Kearns, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    So how did Robles get elected anyway? She is also in favor of breaking the Constitution. Why is that? In fact there are several legislatures and Senators that shove the Constitution in the background. Utah's politicians are supposed to support the citizens and the Constitution. What is happening. We are starting to look like Chicago.

  • DavisMan Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 4:23 p.m.

    Sound's like she is saying "hey come on over NO punishment for braking there laws in Utah". Just my take on her junk bill.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 4:28 p.m.

    There are some tough questions to be asked of Sen. Robles.
    For example, why is it that Mexicans living in the United States have the LOWEST rate of naturalization, something in the low 20% range?
    Exactly what part of the American Dream are they seeking here?
    Couple that data with the fact that they cling to their native language and the high rate of illegal entry from that one country.
    How does that show any loyalty to the USA? And why do you advocate for them?

  • Celticwolf Syracuse, Utah
    Feb. 21, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    Why don't we just have a 2nd Mexican/American War? We beat them last time and so let's do it again? Or we can all pack up and move to Mexico? Kick the crap out of the drug users and gangs then countries ours.

    All of us in Mexico and no one in America except Illegals. Then what will they do? Try and go back to Mexico?

  • CJ Murray, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 6:55 p.m.

    The bill being peddled by this woman is a monument to stupidity and nothing less. "Guest worker" passes for lawbreakers? Are you kidding? Can the guys at point of the mountain who broke other laws apply for them too? Can anyone who doesn't agree with a law get a pass to break the law until they can change it to their liking? Or is it only Queen Luz who can grant a pass to those she thinks deserve to be here?
    How many checks from YOUR OWN bank account have you written to cover the costs of illegals Luz? How many are you going to write in the future? I would bet that your altruism doesn't go that far,,, after all you did run for office so you could spend everyone else's money, and those you want to hand it out to don't deserve anything but a one way ticket home to Mexico. Do us all a favor and go back with them.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 7:26 p.m.

    KSL just commissioned a poll that says 71% of Utahns want a guest worker program.

    Ther are two ways to look at this:

    If you're sympathetic to the plight of immigrants this explains the movement to declare ours a constitutional republic - the will of the majority can be safely ignored. Whew! (The embarrassing episode of school vouchers being overturned by the people is less likely, with the initiative process being made more difficult by our wise and benevolent leaders.)

    If you're anti-immigrant, maybe this is a sign that our educational system has passed a threshold in decline and deserves better funding. Or, with a constitutional republic with the power elite selected by a small minority, maybe public misunderstanding of immigration policy is really not a big deal. Keep 'em stupid AND unempowered! What are they going to do - vote for a Democrat? LOL. Only Gentiles and gays and Mexicans do that!

  • smarty pants Herriman, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 8:30 p.m.

    The law is the law. She needs to be loyal to the United States and the Constitution. What she is trying to do it's to reward the bad conduct and that's just not fair to those who are here legally. Immigration it's just a big business for many circles, one of them politics. She is a smart lady with preparation but to be honest I don't think that's the way to do something good. Utah has been helping for years the illegal immigrants, especially the LDS members. People kept coming and now we have this big problem. The time has come to start putting things in order. The illegal knew that they were not doing things right hoping nobody was going to get them in the future. I know there are little children involved, but people need to be responsible for their actions and decisions and assume the consequences of those bad decisions in the past.

  • Led Zeppelin II Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 21, 2011 8:34 p.m.

    Not a single politician has a worthy answer. Sandstroms bill is controversal and unconstitutional. Robles the same. Arizona is even worse.
    The Constitution is being torn to shreads on every issue. Big Government is the real problem. Dont blame illegals. If people want to come here and work hard and become Americans they should be able to. This is the American way.
    No one should be allowed to depend on government whether they are illegal or born here.
    And all criminals should pay.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Feb. 22, 2011 12:38 a.m.

    Led Zeppelin II, they don't want to be Americans, read Robles article again, they just want to take American jobs. They have no right to do that.

    Nothing is unconstitutional about Sandstroms bill. All the blocked parts of Arizona's bill are removed. I challenge anyone to show where his is unconstitutional.

  • Mc West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 22, 2011 9:07 a.m.

    Here's my proposal:

    The federal government should open up a guest worker program that is much easier, faster, and cheaper for people to apply for from their native land, but unavailable for anyone living in the US illegally. Sponsorship by an American citizen or company who wishes to employ an immigrant legally would put these people on a fast track to obtaining the guest worker permit. Speaking English could also speed up their permit.

    At the same time increase penalties for employing illegals and pass bills like Sandstrom's that make it harder for illegals to stay here.

    The result would be a mass exodus of illegals back to their home countries with their families intact so that they could apply for the easy to get guest worker permit. Then they will return legally, out of the shadows to pay income tax and get health insurance through the employer and respectable wages.

    No citizenship with voting rights for them, just the ability to work here legally.

    This would be in keeping with the Utah Compact which doesn't even mention illegal immigration and encourages just and reasonable laws. It also recognizes federal responsibility for this.

  • JBrady Murray, Ut
    Feb. 22, 2011 9:57 a.m.

    MC, those guest worker programs already exist. They are the H-1a visa (agriculture) H-1B (non agriculture).

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    Feb. 22, 2011 2:11 p.m.

    So what point are those dumb t-shirts suppose to make?

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Feb. 22, 2011 4:20 p.m.

    Aside from cheap labor, what benefit do they bring to the USA? Seriously, our immigration policy as it stands is calculated to import needy high school drop-outs from third world countries.
    And the reforms they talk about promise more of the same at accelerated rates.
    Am I missing something here?

  • fair ground Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 22, 2011 4:32 p.m.

    @Middle of the Road: The caption and you assumption that The Coalition of Utah Progressives support the Robles/Mero bill is wrong. In fact they were arguing with her in this photo about the false hope and unconstitutionality of her proposal.
    This photo is from the Summer when she first introduced her unconstitutional bill and way before all of the current "modifications" that CUP is still opposed to.
    @ Attentive: make them, as we did.

  • Larry Willard, UT
    Feb. 22, 2011 10:57 p.m.

    Just how many hurddles do our political leaders have to jump every 4 years to be re elected? This is un suitable to ask hard working people that are working for nothing already.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 7:23 a.m.

    No winner in this debate or in this action. Many illegals own homes and the jobs that many of don't want to do in our society. It may cut costs as well. Prices will rise. Most illegals simply want an opportunity even though they did break the law. I just laid off a person we found out was illegal. I felt horrible because she is human but I'm not willing to go to jail.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    Feb. 23, 2011 8:54 a.m.

    There is not a job an American won't do if paid a fair wage.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    Feb. 24, 2011 4:03 a.m.

    "The bill they say, crafted by a new American who understands the Latino community, is perfectly in tune with what immigrants want: not citizenship, but the opportunity to work and live without fear."

    Immigrants from other countries want citizenship. They are cheated out of it by those here just to work.