More nonsense and drivel from the amnesty hack in chief. The articles from
Florez never change, the date on the top is the only difference. Go back a week
or so and read the same old baloney,,,, we need immigrants, we can't live
without them... blah blah blah. We did just fine without them for years and will
be fine without them when they leave. Go Sandstrom.
Like it or not, Utah is part of the US, and has no business trying to set up
some kind of illegal immigrant pool. What Utah should be doing is trying to
help US businesses use existing Federal programs to find immigrant workers, if
they are somehow unable to find workers in Utah. If that system is broken, then
that is the one that should be fixed. Utah doesn't need to be creating some
kind of parallel system that has no Constitutional basis. And, of course, any
foreigners that are to be employed should be paid wages above and beyond what
would be given to a US resident - there is no need to undercut wages. If the
business can't show that their wages are reasonable, then they don't need to be
"Be careful what you wish for. With food, gas and heating prices going up,
we may want to take a second look at how we view immigrant labor."Food, gas, and heating prices are going up due in large measure to our laging
economy... which is laging in large measure due to our high unelmployment rate.
We currently have 15 million unemployed sucking up billions of tax dollars in
unemployment benefits. Money we don't have, can't afford, and must borrow. It
stands to reason that the influx of millions of illegals taking Americans' jobs
exacerbates the problem. And don't tell us that illegals take the jobs that
Americans won't. Americans will take any job is the wage is adequate to live
on. And why aren't wages high enough? Because illegals come in and bid them
down.If farmers need work harvesting, farm communities can do what
mine did as a kid. Schools let out for a few weeks in the fall so students
could help harvest crops. We called it spud/sugar beat vacation. helped the
farmer and put some money in kids pockets. A win-win for both.
We can't be competing with the federal government on immigration policy, that's
crazy talk. But we can round 'em up and ship 'em out, you betcha.While we're talking about the Feds, how about if they give us OUR land back?
Then we can drill, baby, drill...and make a lot of money. But I'd want my kids
to be owners, not workers - those are dangerous jobs.Maybe then we
can secede, and have our own immigration policy.Secession isn't
covered in the Article of Faith, is it?
Do you think every job filled by a foreign worker takes one from us? Think
again. Do you think every child you raise takes a job from another adult? No.
People create jobs, too. People are consumers, too. Recruit them from across
the border and you get a bonus--workers you didn't have to pay to raise and
educate.Evidence from Rob Paral & Associates in their recent
study:"In the 10 states with the highest shares of recent
immigrants [1998-2008] in the labor force, the average unemployment rate for
native‐born whites is about half a percentage point lower than in the
10 states with the lowest share of recent immigrants."In the 10
states with the highest shares of recent immigrants in the labor force, the
average unemployment rate for native‐born blacks is about 4 percentage
points lower than in the 10 states with the lowest share of recent
immigrants."So who's suffering? Until we widen the gates, both
we and the victims of Mexico's poverty and corruption.
@John C. C.I think you have a good reason as to why we want to bring
in highly-educated people from around the World, since they are a good bet to
create jobs. The higher their education, the better.What I don't
see from that study is a reason why the US would want to bring more uneducated
immigrants into our country.
@John C. C. - Breaking the study down by states is a red herring. Of course,
immigrants will naturally migrate to the states with jobs. The more valid
statistic is the total US unemployment which is about 15 million... who are
sucking up billions in unemployment benefits. We don't need more immigrants in
this country, legal or non right now. We don't have enough work for our own
citizens. Foreigners will have to wait until our economy turns around (if ever)
before we need them again. The best thing for our economy to turn around is for
all immigrants who come for work to go home.@Emophiliac - I don't
understand why you would want to strip the brightest from other countries and
bring them here. In the first place, we have alotta bright people here in the
good ol' US of A. More than enough. Further, you'd be stripping the brightest
from other countries who need them to further their own country's economic well
being. And in doing so you would create more poverty there, thus more pressure
for the poorest to migrate to (where else?) the US of A.
Wow. More pro-illegal immigration propoganda from the Deseret Snooze. Shock me.
@john cc. Don't widen the gates much more. There are about 3.5 billion people
who want to come here. Doubt we can handle that.
A day late and a dollar Short John! The Utah Compact is History.......it has
been thrown out with Amnesty! America wants strong secure borders...Just like
Our current immigration laws were written in 1996, to face the global market and
newly created NAFTA.
HATE HATE AND MORE hate against immigrants. Why. I grew up on a farm and we
used migrant farm workers. The idea that we can find americans to harvest
crops is asinine. Believe me tried, impossible. Someday all of you who spew
your hate against others because they are poor or don't have the privileges we
have or going to answer to a higher power. This whole immigration debate is
rooted in racism and bigotry. If you don't think so your rhetoric says
@ NeilT | 10:05 a.m. Feb. 20, 2011"This whole immigration debate is
rooted in racism and bigotry."That's a lie. The debate
actually is rooted in flagrant disrespect of U.S. sovereignty and law by hostile
invaders and occupiers of the United States. Virtually all Americans, including
myself, heartily welcome legal immigrants.