Ronald Reagan was a true model of effective governance.When he saw
that his billionaire tax cuts were making huge increases in the deficit, he
raised taxes (8 times) but put the increased taxes mostly on the poor and middle
class.When the Marine barracks were attacked in Lebanon, he cut and
ran by withdrawing all US troops from Lebanon.When our hostages were
taken by Iran, he nogotiated with the Islamofascist terrorists and gave them
weapons in exchange for our hostages.And when Social Security was
facing problems and an uncertain future, he didn't seek privatization, he
increased the Social Security payroll taxes to save the program.Unfortunately, if he were President today, he would be attacked by the TEA
party and people like Sarah Palin and Mike Lee for capitulating on tax increases
and negotiating with terrorists.Long live the false legacy of the
cut-and-running, tax raising, terrorist negotiating, social security saving hero
of today's Conservatives.
This article has highly selective memory. No mention of Reagan's real legacy
--Iran-Contra. Lebanon. KAL 007. S&L real estate speculation.
Sloppy NASA oversight. Challenger. Increased military spending fueled by
borrowed money. Increased government spending paid with borrowed money. Enabled
banking fraud on the expanding poor. Demonized and assaulted working class,
poor, and mentally ill. Top 1 percent owned almost 40 percent of wealth. Clinton correctly observed: the Reagan-Bush years have exalted private
gain over public obligation, special interests over the common good, wealth and
fame over work and family. The 1980s ushered in a Gilded Age of greed and
selfishness, of irresponsibility and excess, and of neglect. Unfortunately,
President Clinton proclaimed, echoing Reagan, that the era of big government is
over, which he carried out by slashing welfare benefits for poor children.
As a student, I attended the Reagan 1976 BYU address in 1976. He exhibited the
height of his persuasive powers and nearly raised the roof right off the
Marriott Center. Years later I remember that address and I remember attending
his BYU address after he left office -- and I remember his style but none of the
the substance. I cannot remember a memorable quote. I thought at
the times of that H L Mencken quote about Woodrow Wilson: an image thrown up to
1000 times its actual size by the use of a magic lantern.This
article's lack of historical memory truly takes my breath away. Reagan liked
Utah only for our votes. As president, he visited this state exactly twice --
both before election day 1984.
Who will be the next Reagan?The article was nothing short of
fantastic.The Republican party has Lincoln, and they have Reagan.
They have leaders that *both* parties use as models of effective and powerful
leadership.Reagan's ability to lead from the front was forged from a
life lived right. His Union leadership, his ability to make and save money and
invest. His tenure as governor in California. The choices he made, and the
problems he solved created a foundation that made him a respected and effective
leader.And he faced crisis. He knew how to solve crisis.We have become weak in the Republican party. Palin resigned as governor
because she faced baseless accusations. "Baseless" accusations puts
the Republican party in full-retreat mode now. It doesn't even need to be
factual, and we will turn and run. So who will the next Lincoln or
Reagan be for the Republican party?Who will lead from the front? Who
has the leadership that can compare to Reagan's Union leadership, or Reagan's
ability to make and save money, or Reagans (two-term) tenure of California?-?
Long Live the Memory of "The Gipper".A Great President of
the United States of America.A Great Governor of California.A Great Actor.A Great Union Leader of the SAG (Screen Actors
Guild).A Great Radio Announcer.A Great Human Being.A Great Guy!!!
The difference between Reagan and Obama? Hah! They should not be mentioned in
the same conversation. Reagan was the master and Obama? Well! The moderator will
not allow my reflections
I think what the current conservative movement has forgotten all the while
claiming to wanting to uphold Reagan's values is that Reagan knew the difference
between rhetoric and the real world. To reach the ultimate goal of securing
national security, Reagan was willing to sit down, and even befriend what was
thought to be a the time America's biggest enemies, the Soviet Union, resulting
in a bilateral reduction in mid range nuclear capabilities. Today,
those "Reagan" conservatives call those within their own party
"RINO"s if they reach across the isle to fellow Americans. Reagan
showed how compromise can help to opposing groups reach a mutually beneficial
result - something rejected by today's Tea-Party crowd. Rather
these people only remember Reagan for his dime-store cowboy bravado, which sells
Reagan and his understand of how things work far too short. To fix a union,
Reagan ran and became its president.... he did something from within to build up
rather than sitting on the sidelines tearing down with empty words.The current conservative movement could learn a lot by looking at the total
Reagan. Reagan was a true RINO, and were safer because of it.
This was an interesting, if not downright worshipful, roundtable discussion. I
find it interesting that there was no place at the table for those saw some of
the major disappointments of the Reagan administration. Reagan
himself said that his inability to control the deficit was a major
disappointment for him. David Stockman, his former budget director, worked hard
to reconcile the revenue base with out-of-control expenditures. Reagan was
single-minded about tax cuts, making them the centerpiece of any economic
solution. The tax cuts went through, budget cuts did not.If Reagan's
presidency teaches us anything, it is that politics trumps economic sense in
Washington. Expecting Washington to solve the problems it creates is like
expecting foxes to make the lives of chickens safer. If economic sanity ever
occurs in Washington, it will be because citizens have finally become involved
and refused to send anyone there based on promises of "more."
Well, the first two people to comment, don't see Ronald Reagan in the same light
as I do. Reagan himself said that he made mistakes, we all do. What
concerns me is the anger I felt when reading the other commentaries posted.I was not a fan of Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton or our current President,
but they did do some very good things as Presidents. Reagan loved this country,
and he would have even loved the people who disliked him, because he knew they
had a right to their opinion. Let's celebrate the man on this the
anniversary of his birth. You can kick him and others the other 364 days of the
I do not understand why Reagan receives such adulation, and I don't understand
why people can't clearly see him for what he was. It astounds me to see how
history has already been re-written concerning him. The Reagan portrayed the
articles extolling his accomplishments is not the same Reagan that I saw in
action during the 1980s.Reagan was at best a mediocre president. He
could do a great job delivering a script, and did a great job portraying the
role of president, but that's all. He was an actor playing a role, and that's
all.His words set forth in the articles concerning him weren't his,
except to the extent that he gave life to his writers' words while delivering a
pre-written script created by someone else. The actions people praise,
including the claims of good governing actions, weren't his -- they belonged to
his handlers and Reagan just gave effect to his handlers' ideas and plans and
programs. Reagan was a front man, nothing more nothing less.I
really wish people could see him clearly -- both for what he was (a mediocre
actor at best) and what he was not (exceptional).
Rightascension... Yeah, I'll bet Clinton had a lot of "good" to say
about Reagan...Clinton does not like Reagan because Clinton's legacy
involves interns, while Reagan's legacy involves the end of the Cold War.Clinton cannot hold a candle against Reagan.You are 100%
correct. Reagan's tenure was chock-full of controversy. Reagan was consistently
knee-deep in solving some crisis somewhere.And his ability to
wade-through Iran-contra, his ability to solve *serious* controversy is part of
the total-Reagan-package.Blaming the Challenger disaster on Reagan,
though. Seriously?-? That is a little bit of a liberal leap. His response will
be remembered, though. Sincere, and powerful. While Clinton will be
remembered for personal failings and relations with interns. Reagan is
remembered for his accomplishments, and his ability to lead.And that
bothers the hyper-left in the US.Blaming Reagan for the Challenger
disaster. Really?-!-?-! Liberals. Bless them, I guess."Demonizing the working class..." Where do liberals get this
stuff... Seriously.Reagan was a powerful and effective leader.I guess liberals have to say something... Without any substance, I guess
demonizing workers might stick...Reagan will be remembered for good.
Deal with it.
I think Reagan's adversaries (eg. Tip O'Neill, Walter Mondale, Jimmy Carter,
Gorbachev and others) would say more thoughtful things about the man and the
presidency than some of the early posters on this site. Of the people being
interviewed, yes, it was glowingly positive although Bangerter seems most
reflective and circumspect, especially about today's conservatives and so-called
spokespeople on the radio. I don't agree with everything Reagan said
or did, but he was a man of principle, he treated everyone with respect, and was
a man who brought about and influenced change for the better. I challenge
everyone who comments here to think about their place in life and how they
propose to change the world for the better. I doubt it can be done through
tearing down others who disagree with you.
UtahBlueDevil,You make a good point.Reagan was a
moderate.That helped him in his appeal on a broad-scale.You are right. Reagan would be called a RINO by today's far, far
"right" element of the Republican party. He would be called a RINO by
the "Tea Party."That is a tragic assessment of the
Republican party as we move forward to the next presidential election.If we are ever going to see *another* Reagan or Lincoln in the Republican
party, we are going to need to drop the RINO label.I think the
Republican party has changed. The "Tea Party" admires Palin, and holds
her as the "conservative ideal." She couldn't last against *false* and
truped-up accusations. How could she lead against a *real* controversy...Reagan waded-through *real* controversies all the time, and did it with
dignity, respect, and *real* power... Power derived from *earning* the respect
of "the people." Yeah, Reagan would never meet the
pretended ideal set and put forward by Palin, and the Tea Party. He would be
called a RINO for his charismatic and effective leadership, and his ability to
appeal broadly outside the Republican base.
I already knew Reagan andloved him but reading your article reminded me how
much I loved him and how much I miss him and the very principled leadership he
brought. he is one of the greatest presidents our country has
ever had. our country needs another great leader, whoever and wherever they
are we need a real leader and we need him to lead us out of one of our darkest
hours as our house is in disorderand we will need another leader who can help
us do the right thing for the right reason . I hope we have such a
person in our country and that he will be able to be elected to lead us out
of this very difficult place that our country finds itself in and that we can
once again find our true values . May God bless us at this very
perilous time that we may come forth from the darkness we find ourselves in and
into the light of our future a stronger and more secure Nation which offers hope
and freedom to both its citizens and all of the citizens of the world.
I suspect that Saint Ronald is better remembered by the worshippers in Utah more
than in the rest of the country. I will say that Newell's cheap shot at the
current President not having judgment and wisdom are false and purely partisan.
Reagan's legacy is mixed, and his image is being managed and manipulated by his
The success of Reaganism is accentuated by the bungling failure of
Obummerism.....two more Obummer Summers to go!
He wouldn't even make out of the Repubican convention today. He'd be labeled a
RINO and boo'ed out of the conference hall like Bob Bennett. There's no room
for statesmen in the Republican party anymore.
I remember when Reagan passed away. People lined the streets to watch the
hearse go by. First in California, when they were taking his body to fly back
to Washington D.C. for the funeral. Then in Virginia when the body arrived. It
was a HUGE event. I remember churches across the country ringing their bells 40
times (for the 40th president.) I don't care what the naysayers choose to do to
detract from this man. He was EASILY the greatest president of the 20th
century. Unlike Roosevelt, Reagan didn't abandon millions of people behind the
Iron Curtain. He put the country back on its feet after Johnson, Nixon, Ford,
and Carter managed to bring us down. He had his flaws, but he was fantastic!
Who cares! It's Bob Marley's birthday!
For you sour skeptics: go watch Chris Matthews on MSNBC and see what he has to
say. He was Tip O'Neil's communications/press person during the Reagan years and
experienced firsthand how Reagan handled and worked with his critics. What I observe is not only a co-opting of his legacy by a new breed and
generation of closed minded and often bigoted "Conservatives" but also
a broad-brushed defamation of his character by new Liberals, most of whom were
too young to have seen his era firsthand. In other words, most of you don't know
what you're talking about.
A good man with a good name. Unfortunately he campaigned on
reducing the budget deficits and did just the opposite. My observations are the
republicans embraced that philosophy ever since. He pushed for less government
control and oversight. That philosophy was pushed later by both parties much to
our regrets. He was given a lot of credit for the break up of the Soviet Union,
but the Saudis are the one that lowered and kept gasoline prices low to insure
and hasten the Soviets fast track to bankruptcy.A good man but his
legacy will be mixed.
One important aspect of Reagan's presidency that this article and all posters
have forgotten is that he restored honor and integrity to the presidency. After
the disaster that was tricky dick and the nothingness that was Gerald Ford and
the idiocy of Jimmy Carter, Reagan was able to reestablish respect for the
office of the president.
It is true...Obama lacks wisdom and judgment. He lacks experience. He lacks
sincere respect of others. These are judgments that others pass upon Obama
based upon observations and reports. Perhaps he needs better handlers? We can
see through the PR efforts.The same can be said of Reagan. We can
see through the distortionists who wish to paint him in a negative light.
Reagan was a great president, a great leader, and a great man. Many liberals
hate him because they are like ultra right wingers who hate anything and anybody
that is not like them.
Carter communicated that America's greatest days were behind us. That we had
passed the high point of freedom and America's ideals and opportunities. Carter
said to turn down the heater and put on a sweater. Reagan declared
that it was morning in America, and that America's greatest days were ahead of
it. Today I hear the same thing from liberals and this
administration: we must redefine our expectations for prosperity. We will no
longer be a leader on the world stage, but we must bow to China, even as Obama
bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia. Even as Obama bows to environmentalists,
unions, and special interest.It is time for a new leader to step
forward to lead this country like Reagan did. With dignity, with greatness,
with vision, with power.
I thought he was average. His ignoring AIDs until Rock Hunter died cost lives.
Kicking people out of mental institutions and ignoring the homeless were black
marks. And the Iran-Contra, October Surprise, and missing white house debate
papers cast doubts. If he had stayed with Jane Wyman, he would of
been a Democratic president.
David....so do you just make stuff up to match the what you want to believe.
Carter never said America's best days were behind us. I would love to see the
direct quote and context of that If you somehow (and others like
you) believe that someones political party makes them all good or all evil and
incompetent, I am worried for the future of our democracy. Reagan was not
perfect - and neither was Jimmy Carter nor is Obama complete buffoons. Taking
such a one sided biased partisan approach to rhetoric, vilifying and demonizing
the "other" side .There was much to admire Reagan for. He
stood as a comforting figure after much of the country had lost faith post
WaterGate, the murders of three leading political figures, the capitulation in
Vietnam, and the beginning of the collapse of America's dominance in
manufacturing. He was a calming voice in the middle of the storm.But he was not perfect as David proposes. Iran Contra, the selling of weapons
to Iran, the blind eye to what was going on in Iraq, Lebanon, and the
deregulating of things such as financial markets and airlines has been less than
Even though they put my name on this story, a ton of people worked on it. Ron
Fox set it in motion by suggesting a story to mark the Gipper's centennial. He
and I met with Tad Walch and Jesse Hyde and Jesse suggested a roundtable with
Ron's contacts/friends. Ryan Morgenegg agreed to video tape and edit the
event.It says a lot about the topic that Gov. Norman Bangerter, Lt.
Gov. John Harmer, Sen. Jake Garn, Rep. Jim Hansen, Dick Richards, Ambassador
Greg Newell and Janet Lee Chamberlain all agreed to come on such short notice to
talk about Reagan. Ron Fox and Paul Edwards rounded out the panel. Mayor Mike
Winder also came as part of the audience.Kassi Cox, Kelly M. Henriod
and Barbara De Groote helped me transcribe the discussion and Jesse Hyde worked
on the editing and introduction. Josh Ferrin did a great graphic of Reagan on
Mt. Rushmore for print and tons of other people did work on design, editing,
posting online (like Layton Shumway), etc. etc. etc.Thank you to
everybody mentioned and unmentioned.
RE: GWB | 4:21 a.m. Feb. 6, 2011, West Jordan, UT "if he were
President today, he would be attacked by the TEA party ... for capitulating on
tax increases and negotiating with terrorists. Long live the false legacy of the
cut-and-running, tax raising, terrorist negotiating, social security saving hero
of today's Conservatives"You are certainly correct but forgot
to add that the man was almost pure Hollywood, good looking, celluloid,
presentable, well spoken....everything America seems to admire most. And when you look that good and communicate that well, then it doesn't really
matter how many terrorist you negotiate with or which taxes you increase, people
will still love you and write long articles about you in places like the
Read the article in the Washington Post, "Five Myths about Reagan",
which are:1. Reagan was one of our most popular presidents.2.
Reagan was a tax-cutter.3. Reagan was a hawk.4. Reagan shrank the
federal government.5. Reagan was a conservative culture warrior. Each point is supported by facts. So get past the labels, the propaganda and
the mythology, Reagan would not only be rejected by the Republicans of today, he
might have been more true to his Democratic roots. The fox in the hen house
I'm a democrat and disagreed with some of his presidential decisions, but I
recognize he was a fine human being who did what he thought was appropriate for
his time. He was a gentle man and in my estimation a turly great human being.
First act as Governor of California.. increase sales tax 50%. Last act sales
tax on Gasoline.First act as President triple the national debt.
Military misadventures in Lebanon are covered over by Granada.
Dealings with Ayatollhas and dictators, still have consequences today.Guided by astrology and the occult, Ronald Wilson Reagan has mislead millions.
Reagan was the true model of defective government... He is responsible for the
largest deficit in our history ... well... until Bush.
It was so refreshing to read the round table discussion about this good man. I
wish I could say the same about these comments. Ronald Reagan will forever be
the image in my mind of what a President should be - bold, confident, and
sincere. I wish we could stop all of the negativity. I understand that we are a
Democracy and everyone has a right to their opinion, but honestly, why can't we
just give people the benefit of the doubt and give them credit for their good
intentions once in a while? Does anybody really believe that Clinton and Obama
are evil people that want to run the country in to the ground and enslave
everyone? Does anybody really believe that Reagan and Bush were just evil
warmongers who wanted to take food out of the mouths of the homeless and let
everyone die a slow miserable death from AIDS? Get a grip, people! We have
different opinions on how best to serve one another, and it doesn't make us
"Trickle-down economics," using the government to distribute income to
the very richest of Americans (the very corporate welfare that has always
dwarfed welfare for the poor -- who take a mere pittance in comparison) and then
allowing it to flow down to poorer Americans, this is the real legacy of Reagan
reign which has continued to this day. Unfortunately, it is now the very source
of so many problems we are grappling with. Indeed, the unprecedented gap between
the top 1% and the rest of us is a direct result of Reagan's
"supply-side" (the rich decide) economics, as statistics bear out.
Many leading economists consider this wealth gap the biggest threat to our
economic prosperity, and thus a dominant threat to our country. Just
compare Reagan to Brigham Young who said "the ways of the world (capitalism
and especially Reagan's "trickle-down economics fit the bill) tend to exalt
a few to unfathomable wealth, while sinking the masses inot poverty and
degradation." Reagan is no Brigham Young.
Wow, the liberal venom is out strong today.The one thing that the
article shows about Reagan is that he could bring people together, and get the
nation to unify. Something that none of the Presidents since have been able to
do.For those of you who claim that Reagan raised taxes, please, tell
us what the tax rates were in 1981, and what they were in 1989. Yes there were
some tax increases, but were all tax increases greater than the tax cuts?If you want to blame Reagan for the deficit, please tell us who sets the
budget for the Federal Government, and tell us who was running Congress from
1981 through 1989.
JFK looked at the Berlin wall and said: "Ich bin ein Berliner". Which
meant I feal you pain when we knuckle under to the Soviets.Ronald
Reagan looked at the wall and said: "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this
wall!"When Saddam Hussein was building a full scale nuclear
weapons producing facility, Carter refused to assist the Israelis in any way.
The Israelis broke a lot of rules on weapons and aircraft supplied by the US.
Just after Reagan too over the presidency the Israelis bombed the reactor at
Osirak. It was totally destroyed - gutted.In a meeting it was
brought up how badly the Israeli's had cheated on the various waepons deals.
Reagans response was: "Boys will be boys"!" and something to
the effect of good for them.Reagan could cut through the manure and
put out the best message.
President Reagan did some good things and he did some things that were not so
great. My biggest problem with him was his narrow ideological view that
Government is "the" problem. He was a corporate shill that sought with
considerable success to demonize government to the point that too few few
American's trust it today to solve any serious national problem. And that legacy
leaves us far too often at the mercy of powerful corporations and wealthy
There are many outthere who obviously do not remember Reagn for what he was, our
nation has not seen a leader of his caliber since and maybe never will again.He championed the cause of true freedom and liberty worlwide. Much the
opposite of the weakness of the socialistic idealogy facing our country
today.I vivdly remember the economic devastation and unemployment
that lingered from the horrendous Carter presidency as a young man, in contrast
the the prosperity that Reagan brought to the country. The man was a
great LEADER, who championed freedom, economic growth and overall prosperity for
our great country.