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  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 3:33 p.m.

    I was forced to delete some pictures taken of our young children on the subway from our recent NYC trip because ads for this show were seen in the shot. What a disgusting place we live in that will condone and accept such awful behavior.

  • Penguin Inc. SLC, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 3:39 p.m.

    Don't you realize you've probably given this show the absolute best advertising it could have possibly received? Just look at the headline. Kids who didn't even know about it are going to be dying to see this show. Kids with no MTV will be staying late at their Democrat friends' houses to see it. Oh great.

  • slgs5aggie Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 3:40 p.m.

    At some point parents have to be willing to make some sacrifices and start turning off the TV. If you don't have cable, you can't watch the program. From what I have seen parents are too unwilling to stop watching our own "favorite" shows. Some how we have all bought into this idea that we must have cable, or dish or something. I will admit it was hard for me to at first to not have all those channels, but as some point that choice has to be made. Take charge of what comes in your home, and save yourself a hundred dollars a month.

  • MurrayGuy Murray, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 4:16 p.m.

    This is pretty simple, if you trust your kids, talk to them about it, let them know what standards decent society has, if you don't trust your kids dish and cable services have a parental locking feature that is pretty effective.

  • JanSan Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 24, 2011 4:25 p.m.

    I understand what some of you are saying about cutting the cable and dish. Some of this stuff is just downright trash!!!!!!!!!!! I do not have cable or dish... but I saw an add for this on the internet! So just because you do not have TV/cable/dish you are still not safe. You need to have controls on your internet also.

  • Christy Beaverton, OR
    Jan. 24, 2011 4:31 p.m.

    Penguin, such a cheap shot.

    This is one Liberal Democrat who will be having a discussion with her daughter about this trashy show. That's all it is -- trash. I don't want her becoming desensitized to it.

    I have much more conservative friends who don't have any problem with their kids watching South Park, or playing Grand Theft Auto, or listening to CDs with Parental Advisory Warnings on them. My kids know those things are not acceptable to me. Most sexually explicit and profanity laced PG-13 movies should be rated R as far as I'm concerned.

    Conservatives don't have a monopoly on morality.

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 4:34 p.m.

    Who lets thier children watch MTV at all?

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 4:51 p.m.

    Kill your television! The other TV shows aren't that much better than this Skins garbage.

  • liahona Westbank, BC
    Jan. 24, 2011 5:14 p.m.

    When I was raising my kids and they wanted to watch MTV, I told them it was Satan's Station. Trash has become so pervasive in our society with or without cable/dish. Problem is there are some parents who are afraid of offending their kids - that's where the problem lies most of the time.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 5:38 p.m.

    It is not possible for any parent to ensure their kids cannot get access to this show. Kids have friends, their friends have freinds, and even if you shut off your cable, those friends have it.

    The only hope parents have is to recognize that when YOU get fanatic about such things, you send a message to your kids that 1) they lack the ability to make wise decisions without you looking over their shoulders (if you don't trust them, why should they trust themselves?), and 2) these things are more important (and therefore possibly more alluring) than they otherwise might suppose.

    Just chill out and let your children live THEIR lives. Their lives are not YOUR lives to live for them! Your obsessive, controlling demeanor toward them is doing more harm than good.

  • wandrew Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 5:47 p.m.

    Wow, that a reputable newspaper should be posting a headline like this is amazing. Boosting your own sagging circulation by your own style of sensationalism? What a shame. And the suggestion by a reader that the kids will find a Democratic household to watch it if it is cut off at (the Republican?) home. Too much. I know that you have been advertising "values" reporting, but really. Why not just report the news? I don't have cable, but you now have me curious enough to look for a Democrat to let me watch his.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 6:07 p.m.

    I imagine the parents television council people are apoplectic over this one. Look, a long time before this stuff is racy or bad or raunchy or whatever other euphemism we try to use on it, it's bad. Real bad. We need to watch it for that reason firs, and so do our kids. If your kids want to watch, you might have some issues to work through with them. If you're paying 1200 bucks a year so they can watch it...recession? What recession? I like my digital peasantvision. If it's not on that, we don't watch.

  • JustAnotherAverageGuy Holladay, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 6:11 p.m.

    My next Sunday school lesson is going to be on "free agency and how to enforce it." (sarcasm...) We need to be involved enough to know what our kids are doing, but trust them enough to do what we teach them, and then let them exercise their agency.

    Will some make mistakes? You bet. And is that hard for parents to watch, when they know what the child is doing is wrong and will only bring pain? Of course. But that's what our Heavenly Father does with us, every single day. Let's follow His parenting example.

  • ECE Ferron, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 6:14 p.m.

    ya gezz penguin get it right. democrats cant afford cable/dish, you know that.

  • Seek to understand Sandy, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 6:42 p.m.

    Good luck to the parents who are promoting "teach them, then let them choose". If you aren't going to be equally agressive as the promoters of this filth, you will most likely find your child enduring pain that they didn't want or need and that has lasting, and sometimes lifelong consequences.

    I realize that the world is really a scary place for us to raise children in - and that sometimes it is so scary that the response is "have faith - teach them and then let them decide" but unfortunately I believe you will find that parents of minor children must be much more aggressive than this in order to protect their children from real harm.

    Teaching them, and letting them decide, works great for things that are not life changing or dangerous, and for children who are becoming adults (age 18+). But the purveyors of filth are AGGRESSIVELY working to TRICK you and your kids into their hands. You better be just as aggressive or they will take their casualties in the form of your childrens' peace, happiness and wellbeing.

  • Schwa South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 7:22 p.m.

    Trust me, your kids already know about this show. And if your kids are teenagers, they'll find a way to watch it whether you block it or not. Try as you might to shelter your children from the world, they'll find it. Your best bet as a parent is to teach them right from wrong, and give them a good moral compass to guide them with. Putting them in a bubble so they'll never see how ugly the world is will only result in their failure in life, and yours as a parent.

  • The Rocker Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 7:27 p.m.

    Why is nobody metioning Glee here? When I was young there was not even an adult show as bad as Glee is.
    Childrens shows now can be worse than adult shows when I was growing up.
    Glee is really bad! How can any good parent tell there children it is ok? It is full of content not appropriate for any child and I wont even watch anything that bad as an adult.
    I do not watch TV shows with sexual content and themes about gender confussion. Which means I never watch television anymore.
    Whatever happened to great action shows like MacGuyver,A-Team,and Renegade?
    I loved TV when I was a child. Now it is just Reality TV and filth I have no desire to watch!

  • Penguin Inc. SLC, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 8:24 p.m.

    RE: Christy

    It was just a little joke. Even if it WAS cheap. Sorry. Just a little mirth.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 8:36 p.m.

    No offense to anyone. I don't watch the show. In fact, if you have MTV, you have the ability to block any station you desire. It takes two minutes to do. I think I blocked MTV on all four of my Directv receivers in less than five minutes.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Jan. 24, 2011 9:09 p.m.

    I wish I had a list of every business that advertizes on MTV for any show. The public can shut down MTV if they refuse to support businesses that advertize on MTV. Where can I get a list?

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    "When I was raising my kids and they wanted to watch MTV, I told them it was Satan's Station."

    Good heavens. No wonder some kids are so messed up.

  • three11stu Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 10:07 p.m.

    Lets see, I started watching R rated movies when I was about 15, listened to movies with parental advisory on them, and watched MTV growing up. And I still do those things now, and I am almost 30. Am I messed up? No. I haven't gotten any girls pregnant (besides my wife), haven't robbed a bank, or shot and killed anybody.
    The reason is my parents did teach me what was right and wrong, and I am able to process what I was watching and listening to. As other posters have said, my parents blocked MTV, so we just went somewhere and watched. And just because the show is on late at night doesn't mean anything, as people will just DVR it.
    Honestly, I had no intention of watching this show, but decided to see what all the complaining is about. It is filth, but the acting and story-line of it is horrible. If your children have any good taste, they can find better things to watch.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 11:13 p.m.

    This is par for the course for MTV, I don't think this surprises anyone. If you don't want your kids to watch it then just block it on your TV.

  • Not So Fast Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 11:15 p.m.

    Well, you sure have given the show plenty of free publicity. I am sure many more kids will hear about it now and tune in. Isn't this lesson ever learned?

  • badger4710 Tomahawk, WI
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:46 a.m.

    if you don't like it-change the channel. oh, that,s right, KSL won't even broadcast Saturday Night Live...guess that's what You-Tube is for...

  • cactusflats American Fork, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 6:46 a.m.

    Don't blame the messenger when reporters tell us about the filth permeating our culture. Based on the turnout for the first episode, it sounds like plenty of kids have already heard about this show. Hopefully this article will inform parents about the depths MTV continues to plumb.

  • johnnylingo62 Gray, TN
    Jan. 25, 2011 6:53 a.m.

    If the FCC or Attorney General doesn't step in and DO something about the "entertainment" material that is circulating over the cables and satellites, then why have any regulations at all?
    The language and subject matter that is being promoted as "mainstream" isn't really mainstream until it's broadcast to 100s of millions of people over the airwaves.
    Culture, class, and modesty have been hijacked for pure "shock" tactics. The quick attention getter -- look at me -- and then it's no longer shocking until someone one ups the next guy and so on and so on. Our society is really going downhill much faster than ever before.

  • In Arizona Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 25, 2011 7:26 a.m.

    Teach your children what is right and wrong.
    Let it be re-inforced at Church.
    Talk openly with them.
    Do all you can to be home when they are home.
    Don't blame others, even a TV station.
    You are responsible to teach your kids.
    They are responsible for their choices.
    Be Happy. Have Faith. Quit complaining.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 8:25 a.m.

    This is so far over the line, it is time to move the line back.

    The Supreme Court's definition of porn includes a reference to "community standard." That just doesn't work any more. One person's PG is another person's R. To be safe from offensive material we might once have chosen to move to a place with higher standards. That no longer lets us escape modern media. A "community" is no longer a town, broadcasting region. My "community" is now those I text to and those I have friended in facebook--not necessarily the guy next door. Yet we all share exposure to the to the same broadcast and internet media. How can the old definition of "community standard" do anything but force us all to be exposed to the lowest common denominator?

    Also, "adult entertainment" does not mean "appropriate for adults." I am an adult, and I find "adult entertainment" repulsive and destructive. This show, if it is anything close to what is described above, is going to promote addiction and be responsible for more crimes against children. That is reality. That is not acceptable.

  • Demisana South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 8:34 a.m.

    "Your kids will just go somewhere else and watch it."

    Not likely. We do teach our values, not just lock them up. We've got our TV blocked, you can't watch anything worse than PG without entering the parent code. And, we know where our kids are, who they are with, and what they will be doing, and when they are expected home, at all times. They know what's out there, why it's bad, and have been taught tools to get themselves out of bad situations. And they've internalized good values. THEY complain about it if they see commercials for stuff like this. They expect us to keep them safe, and not just physically.

    It is possible to raise good kids. Even with a TV in the house.

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 8:54 a.m.

    I've never had cable tv and probably never will. I have better things to do with my money and time.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:00 a.m.

    Penguin that was a cheap shot and uncalled for. ADvertisers not sponsoring is the right thing to do. Ignore it, I suspect it will soon be cancelled.

  • Eliot Santaquin, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:07 a.m.

    I thought Penguin's comment was funny.

  • MajMarine Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    I M LDS 2 | 5:38 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011
    Provo, UT
    "The only hope parents have is to recognize that when YOU get fanatic about such things, you send a message to your kids that 1) they lack the ability to make wise decisions without you looking over their shoulders (if you don't trust them, why should they trust themselves?)"

    They are kids. And what they don't know about life, decisions, and consequences could fill volumes. As a parent, you better be looking over their shoulders.

    "Just chill out and let your children live THEIR lives. Their lives are not YOUR lives to live for them! Your obsessive, controlling demeanor toward them is doing more harm than good."

    Yes. Of course. That's why teen suicide rates are up. That's why teen drug use is up. That's why teen pregnancy rates are up. That's why schools are so much safer today than a generation ago. That's why we have more school shootings today. All because parents today are obsessive and controlling. Yeah, right.

  • Mom of 8 Hyrum, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    I'm not sure what's more disturbing, that the makers of this show (presumable mature, supposedly responsible adults) didn't, at some point, stop and say, "Hey, this is really exploitative and maybe even wrong. Let's not do this," or that there are people out there (as seen by a few postings here) that see nothing wrong with teenagers destroying themselves and being filmed while doing it.

    I'm truly stunned. And I hope such behavior and attitudes will always stun me. God help me if I ever can justify any of this kind of behavior.

  • bikerdog North Ogden, Utah
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    There is not one complaint like all of the above, when a Chain Saw Massacre Movie is advertised in this newspaper.
    What does that say to all you people?

  • Brian Wasilla, AK
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    This is just the begining.

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:10 a.m.

    I caught about 1 minute of this show last night while channel surfing. If you ever need something to completely destroy your confidence in humanity...

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    "Conservatives don't have a monopoly on morality."

    No, they don't. But at least they don't support abortion and subsidizing immoral behavior. Zing!

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:14 a.m.

    Eh, I guess I'll have to watch it to see what all thus fuss is about.

    And to all you parents out there worried that this show is going to destroy your kids lives if they happen to catch an episode of it (or even, it seems, an advertisement for it, good heavens!) relax, your kids will be just fine, they will survive (goodness, of course they will). No need to scare them with fantasies of the devil. They will be just fine if you love them, and talk with them, and spend time with them, and realize they are intelligent and good.

    I shudder to think of some the blow outs that would happen if some parents found out their child had watched this series (this is the devils work! This will turn you into a sex crazed drug addict! The horror!) the screeching, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Oh my.

    No, no, I hope that most of you are far better parents. This series is not the end of civilization as we know it. And things really aren't that bad out there. Relax. Teach your children well, and know they love you.

  • LVIS Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    bikerdog | 9:38 a.m. Jan. 25, 2011
    North Ogden, Utah
    "There is not one complaint like all of the above, when a Chain Saw Massacre Movie is advertised in this newspaper. What does that say to all you people?"

    Well, not much, really. First, people do compain. Second, if it were an article on the movie, there would be, I'm sure, plenty of posted comments. Third, the movie comes with a rating. The TV show does not. Fourth, people will generally watch a movie one time. A TV show is repeated every week.

  • Jase of Ace Logan, Utah
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    Oh take your prudish opinions and hit the off button if you dont like it.

  • three11stu Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:02 a.m.

    To LVIS: Really, the TV show doesn't come with a rating? Last I saw, it is rated TV MA. If that is not a rating for you, then I don't know what is.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    There is a difference between teaching correct values and letting your children choose and facilitating inappropriate things coming into your home.

    This is why we don't have cable in my home. Just like why we don't have certain magazines in my home either.

    It is NOT a matter of controlling my children but rather providing them with a good home environment -- which is my job as a parent after all.

  • JediToby Tooele, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    You know, the really funny thing is, this show's been airing on BBC America for years and nobody noticed it. I don't know if the "Americanized" version is so much to talk about--what few moments I saw of the original were full of teen angst and less skin than the advertising leads you to believe. ("Skins," as any golfer will tell you, isn't about nakedness.)
    Will we be watching it at our house? No--wrong demographic. But will it be talked about now that morally-uppity activists have elevated it to the public's consciousness? Certainly. So, thanks for not letting the show die a quiet death. By making it controversial, you've given it NYPD Blue status--a must see for rebellious teens.

  • Demisana South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:43 a.m.

    @Jase of Ace - that would be why they are being investigated for producing child porn? This isn't a Utah prude thing - this is violating federal law. You know, the kind that get you sent to federal prison for a decade or more...

  • Whos Life RU Living? Ogden, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:50 a.m.

    Thanks, DN.

    I will check it out so I can judge the show myself.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:53 a.m.

    To Seek,

    Your paranoia and fear-mongering about "the world" will do more damage to your children and their ability to work well in society than most anything else.

    Good luck with that.

    My 5 children are turning out just fine. I let them decide. They don't need me playing policeman and big brother and watching over their shoulders and restricting their access to everything as if they are helpless. They know what is right and wrong and they choose accordingly, and it is working great!

    No paranoia or fear-mongering necessary!

  • pikap1868 Layton, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:56 a.m.

    Where's the "outrage" over Jersey Shore? That "show" is reality based, allegedly, unlike Skins.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:00 p.m.

    Hutterite

    "Look, a long time before this stuff is racy or bad or raunchy or whatever other euphemism we try to use on it, it's bad. Real bad. We need to watch it for that reason firs, and so do our kids."

    By that rational, we should smoke pot with our kids and go binge drinking with our kids before passing judgement. And then, if our kids like it, we should be concerned. Seriously?!

  • John Galt Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:06 p.m.

    three11stu | 11:02 a.m. Jan. 25, 2011
    Saratoga Springs, UT
    To LVIS: Really, the TV show doesn't come with a rating? Last I saw, it is rated TV MA. If that is not a rating for you, then I don't know what is.

    I get his/her point--that all anyone in Utah preaches is 'don't go to R-rated' movies. If it's broadcast on TV, then it must be ok. Don't get your shorts in a wad.

    And, his/her overall point is made. It's simply a response to 'bikerdog' claim that there must be some sort of hypocrisy going on in this thread.

  • djk blue springs, MO
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    what is causing so much of my frustration is with the choices of writers, producers, actors. satan wants to win this generation over so they are weak. he is winning as long as we allow this in our homes. for example the video 'firecracker' from perry pushes homosexual acceptance. parents need to be strong and show their children what is right and wrong with the world. my youngest believes that homosexual and lesbians are making good choices. gads, i am so sick to my stomach over this. HOLD TO THE ROD, HOLD ONTO YOUR CHILDREN ! do not believe that byu students all make right choices. so many there are from lds families with NO standards

  • three11stu Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:27 p.m.

    My shorts are in a wad because it is people like LVIS who think that movies are the only thing that comes with ratings.
    TV, Music, and Video games all have ratings. Just because it is there doesn't mean that your children have to watch it. By somebody saying that they know a movie is bad ONLY because it is rated R is not doing their job as parents. This show comes on at night, and carries a TV MA rating.
    Parents, make decisions for yourself, and don't let the government tell you what is good for your children.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:27 p.m.

    What about the garbage on Channel 13 -- Fox. The "conservative" station.

    Or what about Two and a Half Men on Channel 4. I stopped watching Channel 4 news because of ads for that crud that accompany their news broadcasts.

    My TV is pretty much locked on Channel 7.

    But then, I really am . . . . and old man. (Sigh)

  • cindyacre Shelley, ID
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    Let's have a "block the show" campaign - and have the responsibility to "block" all shows that we may think are even a "little" harmless.

  • fran246 Roslindale, MA
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    Penguin Inc, believe it or not, some Democrats have standards too.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:43 p.m.

    "Conservatives don't have a monopoly on morality."

    No, they don't. But at least they don't support abortion and subsidizing immoral behavior. Zing!

    Good heavens, Independent, you think that you got a Zing! in there? You must listen to far too much conservative talk radio if you think your comment was clever.

    By the way (and, yes, I am giving your comment way too much credibility by responding to it) supporting abortion is about supporting a woman's freedom, and making sure that government (or religion, or you) will not have control over her body. It's her body, not your property. You (nor the government) have no right to walk into the doctors office with her if she doesn't want you there, no matter how much you may want to.

    And what immoral behavior can you possibly imagine Democrats subsidize? Besides, who are you to think you have the final say, at all, on what is moral and not.

    For some of you others, you do realize that this is not the first time underage sex and drug use has been portrayed in the media, right? Not by a long shot.

    Good heavens.

  • John Galt Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 2:08 p.m.

    three11stu | 12:27 p.m. Jan. 25, 2011
    Saratoga Springs, UT
    "...somebody saying that they know a movie is bad ONLY because it is rated R is not doing their job as parents....Parents, make decisions for yourself, and don't let the government tell you what is good for your children"

    Agree.

  • Skippy West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    I am one of the people who has actually watched the show and yes I am one who would have not known anything about it except I read the Dnews online! I find it ironic that a church owned newspaper would be giving free advertising to such a bad show. By bad I mean it is very distasteful,and it is stupid. Too bad the Dnews promoted such a thing. Maybe next time you could find something more positive to say about teens. (Take a few lessons from one of your own reporters...Amy Donaldson!)

  • Anne26 West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 2:26 p.m.

    Umm, if it is illegal for someone to have pictures of naked teenagers on their computer, it is equally illegal for MTV to broadcast video of naked teens. This is not rocket science. ANYONE who supports this in anyway is sick and completely without morals, plain and simple.

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    Jan. 25, 2011 4:22 p.m.

    "You must listen to far too much conservative talk radio if you think your comment was clever."

    I actually can't stand talk radio. Hence my acknowledgement that conservatives don't have a monopoly on morality.

    And if you don't beleive in subsidizing immoral behavior, would you support drug tests for welfare recipients? Would you support the elimination of all federal funding for abortions? Would you support a cap on how much assistance you can to support children born out of wedlock?

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    Jan. 25, 2011 4:24 p.m.

    "Besides, who are you to think you have the final say, at all, on what is moral and not."

    A tax-paying American citizen, who last time I checked, had the right to vote and participate in the democrat process. That's who.

  • Tom Smith Sandy, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 4:38 p.m.

    So this television program is going to be legally censored while the internet is saturated with porn. Good old American values!

  • In Arizona Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 25, 2011 4:58 p.m.

    To Tom Smith:

    Back off of America! It happens throughout the world. Freedom of Choice is a great blessing. If you feel America is the problem, there's many other countries that would take you in.

  • Mom With A Mission Lehi, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 6:46 p.m.

    What ridiculous comments! Saying that if you don't allow something in your own home, your kids will just seek it out in other places is ludicrous! Perhaps they will see it other places, but the little voice in the back of their mind will be constantly nagging at them that it is wrong, and their parents have forbidden it. They will probably feel, at the very least, guilt. If you allow it in your home, you are just condoning it. People use the same stupid argument about under age drinking. What nonsense! It is our responsibility as parents to set guidelines, and to follow those guidelines with our own actions. Saying "I forbid you to watch this trash, then making it accessible to them is a double standard, and is very confusing for teens who are still trying to figure out how to navigate the complicated mess of a society we live in. Get a backbone, set some rules, and stand by them!

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:27 a.m.

    Mom With A Mission,

    You wrote: "What ridiculous comments! Saying that if you don't allow something in your own home, your kids will just seek it out in other places is ludicrous!"

    Why is that ridiculous? It is true.

    "If you allow it in your home, you are just condoning it. People use the same stupid argument about under age drinking."

    I have read my own comments and the comments of others, and none of them I could find suggest what you are accusing them of.

    Please tell us, who on these comments has written anything close to: "I forbid you to watch this trash," then making it accessible to them?

    I will try to repeat my point. I never condoned anything. I merely pointed out that you cannot possibly restrict your children enough to keep them away from this stuff. That doesn't mean I watch "Skins" for FHE!

    I also pointed out that children are harmed by paranoid parents who honestly believe we live in "the complicated mess of a society we live in."

    That promotes anxiety, fear, distrust, and paranoia. And it is not true. "Societies" around the globe are better than ever in history!

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:40 a.m.

    This is one thing that disturbs me about the Church. We spend so much time and rhetoric focusing our attention and the attention of our children on how horrible, evil, wicked, and disgusting "the world" is. It is as if we are trying to scare our children away from "the world" in the vain hope they will be scared [back] into the Church.

    Think about it. First off, that is a completely untrue, distorted view of the world. Democracy covers the earth more than ever before in human history. Health and welfare around the globe is better than ever in history. Despite the problems we face, which are not to be trivialized, on the whole, the children of God are far more healthy, prosperous, happy, and righteous than ever before.

    Despite what paranoid commenters write, most LDS kids probably didnt even know about Skins. Mine didnt until they read Deseret News. Perhaps I should shut off all access to Deseret Media?

    A distorted and disproportionate overreaction to things like this is what promotes fear, distrust, anxiety, isolation and arrogance among the Saints.

    That isnt healthy or right or smart.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    This is why we need a la carte offerings from the cable companies. The technology is there, and I really don't want one red cent of my money going to support programming like this.

    There is so much of good value on cable, it is too bad it has to be tarnished by junk like this. We need to have the right to opt out of these channels.

  • The Patriot Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 1:17 p.m.

    You do UtahBlue, it is called the off switch.

  • Anne26 West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 1:33 p.m.

    @Tom Smith

    This has nothing to do with censorship. Child pornography is illegal in any form, whether on the internet or television.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 26, 2011 4:23 p.m.

    Patriot, no I don't. I want to keep programs like National Geographic Explorer, the Smithsonian Channel, CNN, FoxNews, ESPN, CNBC, PBS even BYU TV, but they are all bundled with MTV. I am not foolish enough to cut off my leg because my toe hurts. The switch does just that. I don't want to be subsidizing LoGo, MTV, or several of the other channels.

    That said, the internet based TV is an interesting alternative I am using more and more.

  • cindyacre Shelley, ID
    Jan. 27, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    Ann is right - and this kind of program is doubly illegal - for its content, and because of the fact that the "actors" are underage.

  • noinipo Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 28, 2011 11:41 a.m.

    You may be able to just censor the channel, and your kids may never find it. But what about your kids' friends? I hope you know who they are and their standards because they might be the one saying, "Hey, my favorite show is on. Let's watch it." Believe it or not, you kids will be subjected to bad language, drug references, sexual references, and even homosexuality just by going to school, reading the newspaper, and hanging out with friends. Kids don't have to seek out these things. They are a part of our world, and you can't just turn the world off, or change the channel. I hope you know your kids' friends, and your kids well enough that someone has the courage to say, "I'm not comfortable, can we watch something else?" Because we've all been there, and we all know that is one of the hardest things to say to a friend.

  • doksie American Fork, UT
    Jan. 28, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    I watched the show before I heard all of the negative press on it, and I WAS FLOORED! I could not belive what I was seeing, and I couldn't believe that the producers were promoting this as a "real" teenage drama. It was filthy, no better word to use. I say that less that 5% of teenagers have this kinda of a life as their "reality". I am relatively open minded about most things, but this show left me with a sick, pit, in my stomach that comes back every time I think about it.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Jan. 28, 2011 1:46 p.m.

    @I M LDS 2 - 9:40

    Perhaps the LDS culture you live in is different than the one I grew up in, but all my life, in Primary, Sunday School, Young Men and Seminary, the message I recieved many times was, "You can be in the world, without being of the world."

    In other words, there is no way we can ever expect to live in a bubble. No matter how hard you try, filthy entertainment is going to find you and come after you.

    The important thing to remember is, instead of just saying "NO - NO - NO" to everything, you have to seek after things you can say "YES" to. Hence the last part of the LDS Church's 13th Article of Faith.

    "If there is anything viryuous, lovely or of good report or praiseworthy, we SEEK AFTER these things."

    There is strong, positive entertainment out there. It may not be easy to find, but it is out there.