He may not have hard feelings towards UCLA, but he definitely has some hard
feelings against BYU who gave him a job and resume for 27 years. Too bad he
can't drop that!
True Wazzup...he does seem to run that way.That being said, it will
be fun to have him back in the state. He got a bum wrap for a couple years where
recruiting left him little to work with. For Ute fans, you are about to get
introduced to the delayed draw up the middle. haha Quarterback is in the
shotgun, ball snaps, both running backs are...oh heck, I don't need to describe
it to you, you'll see it soon enough. Over and over again. hahaI'm
happy he is at Utah. He is a class act and solid coordinator. I think the best
possible aspect of his hire is he may get you a bump in relationships for PAC12
recruiting. While you can now put that on the resume but it is still about
relationships. I'm sure he can help in that area.I think you will
struggle this year but I bet you win 3 or 4 PAC12 games. I hope you do better,
and of course I think you lose in Provo.Go BYU!
" It is what it is "-- Coach Chow-- If I were Brian Johnson ,
or for that matter, any member of the football coaches, players, or recruits I
would be delighted as all get out to work with Norm Chow--even if it were only a
few years. If you had an interest in writing detective stories and
mysteries would you jump at the chance of working with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle ?
If you were a painter and could study with Rembrandt or Matisse wouldn't you
love to learn from these masters? Perhaps you're a NASCAR fan and could
go a few laps with Dale Earnhardt Jr. would you get behind the wheel?
This, to me , is a great accomplishment and honor for the University of Utah to
be able to pick the brain of a man who understands college football offenses and
defenses. How many untold hours has Chow spent in the film room grooming to this
day ? When he returns to his Alma Mater, all of those involved with the
Utes will be so much better off by having him home and wanting to be where he
is. I wish him the very best. Go Utes !!!!!
Good move for the Utes. I hope it helps the U represent the State of Utah and
the Mormons better. I am so surprised that there is no big shout of concern for
the current OC's and this very unprofessional process for replacing them. The
Utah fans sure seemed a lot more concerned for the O staff at BYU when Bronco
used a much more professional and OPEN process for shuffling his O Staff.
Why should the U represent the mormons better? it is a state school and should
not represent any religion whatsoever. That is BYU's role, not the University
of Utah. People chaning their impression of Utah and its people will be a
biproduce of more exposure, but if anything it will dispell a lot of
misconceptions about the state being a completely mormon state and people will
realize there is more to the place than the LDS church. Besides, if someone is
relying on athletics/sports to get an impression of a religion, they are missing
First Kyle, now Chow...if there was any doubt, it is now erased the Yewts have
big time Cougar envy.
AZ_True_Blue envy of what? a 7-6 record and never getting to a BCS bowl game
and being a mid major independent; yeah sure.
Roderick was offered a coaching Job at BYU- He declined.Roderick was
offered a demotion as the WR coaching job at Utah - he accepted.Roderick played at BYU.Just saying....
"I hope it helps the U represent ... the Mormons better."Alaskan Coug,You're self centered and just don't get it. I assure
you Utah will continue to distant themselves from such a statement.UofU has no religious affiliation and nor should it.Do you care
how the U represents the Catholics? How about the Jews, Baptists? Of course not.
No religious agenda at this school.
AZ_True_Blue,First Lavelle Edwards (Utah State) and then Norm Chow
(Utah). You had Utah State and Utah running your program for 28 of its most
successful years. Sounds like you still envy those years. By the way, how do
Arizona Fans feel about Arizona hiring Robert Anae as the offensive coordinator
vs Utah getting Norm Chow as its offensive coordinator? Just wondering.
Anae's teams in the past six years scored more points, gained more yards, and
won more games than Chow's. Arizona is just fine. He got run out of Provo just
like Norm Chow did.But, really, what could be more intriguing and
spark more fan interest than to have Coach Chow come back? He's always been our
kind of guy: audacious, tough, intelligent (Dr. Norm Chow), driven, ambitious, a
winner, a Utahan.There will be plenty of sparks flying out of the
coaching staff. Something to write about and fight about all the time.And Utah will quit playing a gimmick offense and get back to playing real
"The Utah fans sure seemed a lot more concerned for the O staff at BYU when
Bronco used a much more professional and OPEN process for shuffling his O
Staff."Are you kidding? Humiliating your entire offensive
staff by publicly forcing them to resign and reapply for their jobs and then
going on a two week vacation to Mexico is not the more professional way of doing
things. What school of management did you attend? The Mao Institute?
Good for Utah! As a Cougs fan, I'm glad he's with them! Please tell me one
positive impact of his last two OC jobs-- for the Titans (NFL) and at UCLA. Can
someone right a story about how the game has passed up Chow? I honestly don't
see how he can still be claimed as an offensive force. In my humble opinion, the
game has passed by him.
so. cal reader.I'd say helping Vince Young with Rookie of the Year
was pretty good.
Don't fool yourself people. Norm Chow is a brilliant tactician. Utah will be
well served by him. You will see their offense improve as well as the play of
Jordan Wynn. He was my coach for 4 years. He knows his stuff.
Gov't and hedgeLike it or not there are many players at Utah who are good,
active members of the LDS church and who represent themselves with the same
standards as the "sunday school boys". (I love that nickname by the
way. Thank you to whomever used it first.) The name Utah will always be
synonymous with the LDS church. If you think this will ever change your
dreaming. Go be a Cal or Oregan fan if you want the majority of your peer group
to be liberals with lower moral values. Being in the PAC could even work against
Utah when it comes to recruiting LDS kids when they realize what their
Why don't the Cougars worry about the Cougars and the Utes will worry about the
Pac-12, Rose Bowls and National titles! Great hire for Utah and an excellent
opportunity for Roderick, Schramm & Johnson to get some big time tudoring.
About the comments of the game getting past Chow....yeah and Joe Pa and Bear
Bryant and Lavell Edwards. Go Utes!!
"The name Utah will always be synonymous with the LDS church. If you think
this will ever change your dreaming"TJ,Change is coming.
And the postive "exposure" will even help BYU.
"In my humble opinion, the game has passed by him."I am glad
that you are humble. Here is a short list of coaches who others said the game
has passed them by:Charlie Wiess now at FloridaSteve Spurrier now at
So. CarolinaGary Crowton now at MarylandJohn Knox now at Denver
BroncosMike Shanahan now at Washington RedskinsRobert Anae now at
Arizona WildcatsI believe Chow is finding himself at Utah in the exact
situation he had at USC. A successful run by the way with two national titles.
This is why the Utah situation is attractive to him and why for him it
replicates USC:A head coach who is a defensive guru and wants him to run
the offense.An offensive line coach he worked with at USC now at Utah.A QB coach who is young and was himself a QB like he had at USC.An
incoming four star freshman running back he can mold into the system.A
direct line to a national championship via the PAC 12 conference.
"Being in the PAC could even work against Utah when it comes to recruiting
LDS kids when they realize what their conference represents"-TJhighly unlikely. This nonsense of "this could affect
recruiting negatively" or "this could be huge for recruiting" is
just getting out of control. Utah will continue to get solid athletes to their
program. BYU will continue to get solid athletes to their program. Just give
it a rest.
The adjustment at offensive coordinator has dropped the Utes from having the
number 30 recruiting class down to #39. It's a risk you take when you make
changes. Spread offense players can smell the changes coming.On the
other hand, this should be Harvey Langi's dream come true. Coach Chow should be
able to make him a great NFL prospect by combining his power running with plenty
of chances to catch short passes out of the backfield.I expect Langi
and Christopher to be the biggest winners in all this. Maybe Jordan Wynn--but
we know he's very fragile.Utes must find another QB. Maybe the kid
from Utah County can learn fast in spring ball.
@dutchman"A direct line to a national championship via the pac
12 conference."Bwaaahaaahaaaaahaaaa Bwaaahaaahaaahaaaa
Hey Duckhunter, wasn't Oregon in the National Championship this year? Don't
look now but everyone is laughing at YOU!
Duckhunter, the PAC 12 conference does have a direct line to the National
Championship. As shown by Utah, TCU, and Boise State twice each, going
undefeated in a non-bcs league will not earn you a trip to the National
Championship. However, Oregon in the PAC made it.
"I think the Pac-10 is obviously a whole different deal. I think top to
bottom is what makes the difference," Chow said. "The Pac-10 top to
bottom, there are awfully good teams with awfully talented players and talented
coaches . . ."And that is what should concern all Yoot
followers. The Yoots, under the leadership of Whittingham, placed 1st in the
mighty MWC just once in six tries. They placed 2nd in the mighty MWC just once
in the other five tries. The other four years they were 3rd or worse. And that
was in the MWC.Someone please tell me how they are going to better
compete in the PAC than they did in the MWC.The Yoots should be very
afraid for the future. While they may surprise us, their history in the MWC says
they may not.
TJ said: Like it or not there are many players at Utah who are good, active
members of the LDS church and who represent themselves with the same standards
as the "sunday school boys". (I love that nickname by the way. Thank
you to whomever used it first.) The name Utah will always be synonymous with the
LDS church. If you think this will ever change your dreaming."But that is not the point. The point is that a state school should in no way
promote or demote any religion. It is not the role of the school to improve the
world view point on anything other than the school. The fact that a good chunk
of the students are LDS is irrelevant to the point that someone was trying to
make earlier, which was that he hoped the hiring of Chow would bring more
attention to the LDS church. Utah will always be associated with
the LDS church, but as more and more people are exposed to the state, they will
realize that there is more to offer here than just the LDS church.
Norm Chow is a great addition - especially given that the Utes don't lose B.
Johnson or A. Rod (assuming that is the way it plays out). Dutchman is correct
in pointing out that age and experience does not mean the game has passed them
by. UCLA didn't work out because Rick N. forced Chow to turn to the Pistol
offense and the butted heads thereafter. I do recall at the Y people
were calling for Edwards and Chow's heads there near the end of their run. Then
after two years under Crowton everyone was screaming to bring back the glory
years. I even remember a number of my Y fan friends calling for a Chow hire. All
of the sudden because the U hires Chow, "the game has passed him by".
It is funny really. If Bronco had hired Chow to mentor Doman for the
next 5 years Y fans would be loving it.Hopefully this translates to
a bit of a jumpstart for the Utes in PAC. Definitely not the favorites to head
to the Rose Bowl this year, but it helps for the future.
Duckhunter,I said Chow had a direct line to a national title at USC
(2) via the PAC 10 and now has the same direct line at Utah via the PAC 12.
Understand now? Chow may not be at Utah long enough to see a national
championship but when it happens Utah fans will make sure you know about it
since the Utah County newspapers won't print anything. MoodyBlue77,Actually, Utah went from #31 on Rivals to #39 over the
weekend because Utah still has 18 commits same as last Friday and many of the
others now have 25 commits. It has nothing to do with Chow. As Utah finishes
up their recruiting and gets to the 25 number or higher you will see the ranking
Where is the Y ranked ?
pocyUte2 re: Vince Young NFL ROY.Good point, but that was 5 years
ago, and I think more on natural talent Dutchman re: "Here is a
short list of coaches who others said the game has passed them by:"Charlie Wiess now at Florida (54 years old)Steve Spurrier now at So.
Carolina (65 years old and a head coach; not an OC)Gary Crowton now at
Maryland (53 years old)John Knox now at Denver Broncos (who? Do you mean
John Fox? If so, he's a defensive-minded coach; not offensive)Mike
Shanahan now at Washington Redskins (58 years old & what has he done
lately?)Robert Anae now at Arizona Wildcats (52 years old)Ute
fans are living in a pipe dream about Chow.
"The point is that a state school should in no way promote or demote any
religion. It is not the role of the school to improve the world view point on
anything other than the school."I am not trying to provoke an
argument I just need to point out that the University of Utah has a chair to
fund scholarly research of "Mormon Studies" as do some other
Universities. From the web site it is known as George S. and Dolores Doré
Eccles Foundation Fellowship in Mormon StudiesThe first of its kind
in the nation, the Tanner Humanities Center's Mormon Studies fellowship provides
a doctoral student funds to spend a year researching the history, beliefs, and
culture of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) and its
members. Do you call this promoting religion? I do not know.GACougar,You did not factor in future recruiting which is already
improving with the PAC 12. Utah is out recruiting Arizona, Arizona St, Oregon
St and UCLA.The Hailstorm,BYU is not in Rival's top 50
So cal reader.It was, but I put it in there because it was in the
time frame you had mentioned.I understand people thinking that the
game may have passed him by, but if that is the only concern people can come up
with, I'll take it. People were saying that about Sloan 5 years ago, and even
though the Jazz are struggling right now, I think he has shown the game hasn't
passed him by.Obviously as a Utah fan, I'll put as good an outlook
on it as I can, but, I really do think it is a great get for Utah. I'll take
the potential of him adding stability to the staff, being a mentor for our young
coaches and tapping into his experience to get the most out of the players on
the team over an unproven commodity anyday.I'm a fan of Roderick,
but I don't think he is ready for OC duties to get the team over the top. I
don't think anyone can come in and wipe away all offensive struggles, but I
think Chow gives Utah the best chance to be great.
Come on, we need to get serious.Dr. Chow is a great pickup for the
U. He knows the PAC, and can help Utah revamp their offense. I for one think he
deserves a little respect. The pettiness sounds a little whiney.He
is a much better asset to Utah heading into the PAC. DuPaix is great for BYU.Both schools are getting out of the same sandbox, and going to be
running in different circles.Allow each program to improve. It will
make watching local TV just that more fun to watch.
So. CalReader,I was comparing coaches in general not by position.
Many pundits claim that a coach (again generally speaking) are past their time
and then they end up somewhere else and do great. That is the nature of the
industry. I believe Chow will succeed at Utah because he is back in an
environment that will support him and let him do what he does best and that is
coach offensive football.
To restate what Veritas Aequitas wrote, I think both O.C. hires are good for
both teams. If you are honest with yourself, you would know that age 64 is not
all that old for a coach. It's a good age for the CEO of a Fortune 500 company,
and it is a good age for any coach with a track record of success. I personally
don't know how any OC could work under Rick Neuheisel, and the situation in
Tennessee was anything but ideal. Chow will do just fine at Utah and the program
will be better off because of it (as will Aaron Roderick, who will have a great
mentor). Brandon Doman will do just fine at BYU. Sure he's young,
but coaching is a balance among knowledge, character, personality, and
communication ability. Obviously Doman possesses the latter three in abundance,
and with his experience, the knowledge is not bad, either. Let's
keep in mind that the BYU fans that were pining for Chow a decade ago are
probably different individuals than those that are ridiculing him now. Let's not
assume that everyone in a single fan base feels the same.
I agree Chow is a huge pick up for the U. He will be an asset in both offensive
schemes and recruiting. However I do not think we will see his influence until
2-4 years down the road. Coming in next season Norm Chow has very
little to work with. Especially since the cornerstone of his offense is a
talented passing Qb. Every great season Chow had at BYU and USC was anchored by
a great QB. His list of pupils includes Steve Young, Philip Rivers, and Robbie
Bosco, as well as Heisman Trophy winners Ty Detmer, Carson Palmer, and Matt
Leinart.The U simply does not have a QB that can run a Norm Chow
offense. They also are lacking experience in the receiving corp and will likely
be starting a freshman RB. The only real bright spot I see for Chow in 2011 is
the O-line, which is looking solid.In the next 2-4 years Chow's
recruiting and experience will show up in the program. Expect great things in
Chow hates the Y just like Whitingham does. Not that it is any big deal but when
he got turned down for the head coach job after Edwards left he hasn't set foot
in Provo again except on the opposite side line. No surprise he went to the U.
No better way to stick it to your old employer than to try and bring him down.
@dutchman and khI knew what you said dutchman. Sure the pac 10 is a
bcs conference but the university of utah will never win a national championship
in football. It will never happen. The fact you seem to think they will is
laughable. How many teams in the pac 10 have actually won a national
championship in the history of college football? Let me fill you in.California in 1916Stanford in 1920 Washington split one with Miami
in 1991USC has won 10 of them (although 2 of them were ties)In
otherwords other than USC (most of those were 50+ years ago)and the tie for
Washington, none have won one in 100 years.So go ahead and dream but
the truth is utah has no more of a chance of winning one now than they ever did.
They will never win one.LOL at the assertion that they
CorrectionIt wasn't only 2 of USC national championships that were
split/ties it was actually 6 of them. So in reality they have been clear cut
champs 4 times. Still a great accomplishment but not quite as good. Also of the
3 NT's the PAC10 has "won" in the last 20 years 2 of those were split.
Washington's in '91 and USC's in '03 which they split with LSU who won the one
you covet (BCS) while USC was relegated to not even playing in the bcs title
game and simply got the AP anti bcs vote. In otherwords the bcs has
very little respect for the pac10 so your "clear line to the national
championship" is even more funny in light of those facts.Keep
dreaming but that is something BYU has that utah will never have. Ever. LOL
uh patriot...Chow still owns a home in provo and returns often. I'd advise you
to think before you post but you are a utah fan so it makes little
difference.Also whittingham doesn't "hate" BYU, that is
also laughable nonsense. He keeps a BYU helmet in his office at Utah. He had it
on display in that rivalry documentary on pbs a couple of months ago. I attended hs with his brothers and know them personally. The
"hate" in the rivalry is really only a product of the fans then it is
mostly just from the ute "fans". BYU fans play along a bit because
most of you guys are so classless but in truth most of us care very little about
utah and once they slip into pac10 mediocrity and you "fans" crawl
back under your rocks we'll go back to ignoring them just like we did for 30
@DuckhunterSorry, I do disagree with you.Utah has a much
better of winning a NC than when they were with the MWC, and if you are honest
with yourself, you will agree...Utah has gone from .01% chance of
winning a NC to a .02% chance.Honestly, winning a NC out of the MWC
will never happen, without a perfect storm, a lightning strike, and Craig
Thompson shaving his head, all in line with the stars, and Chris B. and Hedgehog
becoming HUGE BYU fans...Now, it can happen, without Chris B and
Hedgehog (whoever chose Hedgehog as a posting name? Come on...) becoming BYU
fans... (Thank you Larry Scott)...What Dr. Chow brings Utah is the
necessary knowledge not to be embarrased in the PAC-12. This is not
a slam, but what I feel is an honest assessment. I do not see Utah in the
contest for less than seventh in the PAC, and at best, the Vegas Bowl... But at
least now Utah is in competition for the Vegas Bowl bid...Without
that push... They would be Boylen's Basketball team.(Disregard
Dutchman... Too much bias)Agreed Dutchy?
Chow is a fossil.Utes would hire anyone at this point to bring the
program respectability.Went from fifth to unranked in the AP last
year? Wow, we are so scared of the Utes and their bird mascot.What a
pathetic joke.(Class way to handle your current OC's. At least Rick
showed the guy the door).No new talent to choose from? Where is the
next Urban Meyer? Were you excited to pick this guy up at the coaching DI?Come on, this is serious football, and you grab the guy getting fired by
UCLA?Even Rick N. didn't want the incopentent ego that couldn't get
through the door.Pay his salary for us... Thanks for
picking up our leftovers off the curb, and paying us for the priveledge...Welcome to the PAC, the U of Wannabe's!!!
"(whoever chose Hedgehog as a posting name? Come on...)"Veritas
Aequitas.maybe I can borrow on of your several posting names? You
know, when you need to change you view point or agree with your other
ute chute is still jealous that Utah beat BYU this year. It's obvious from his
posts. Scoreboard: 17-162 out of 36 out of 9Also,
you said, "Welcome to the PAC, the U of Wannabe's!!!"Don't
you have to be in the PAC to welcome somebody in the PAC? Sounds like you are
hedgehog | 5:54 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011 Ann Arbor, MI "(whoever
chose Hedgehog as a posting name? Come on...)"Veritas Aequitas.===It's latin for "Truth Justice". (see
"Boondock Saints")You are welcome to use either concept
when you post... I know the concept is foreign to you, but google truth, it will
add to your "street cred"...I am open to sharing the
concepts with you, babe.Feel free to use either....But,
as long as you post the biased misinformation under hedgehog (A defense that all
species of hedgehogs possess is the ability to roll into a tight ball, causing
all of the spines to point outwards. However, its effectiveness depends on the
number of spines, and since some of the desert hedgehogs evolved to carry less
weight, they are much more likely to try to run away and sometimes even attack
the intruder, trying to ram into the intruder with its spines, and rolling as a
last resort.)It's all on you kid, spines and all......
Utah Utes football: Norm Chow eager for new opportunity...... too
bad there's little to work with!
ute chute:Also, you said, "Welcome to the PAC, the U of
Wannabe's!!!"Don't you have to be in the PAC to welcome
somebody in the PAC? Sounds like you are the "wannabe". .............ute-chute | 5:45 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011 Beverly
Hills, CA .............Yes, Sir...Welcome, wannbe.
Prove something here, then post...
Do you want to know something Hedgehog?Between Utah's colapse from
#5 to unranked in the AP, and BYU being a national power in footall and
basketball (football --top 25 4 of the past 5 years, and also recieving votes
just like Utah this year-- And we all know about basketball...), it gives you
something to do, and keeps you off the streets...My advice, watch
KWhitt and Dr. Chow rebuild Utah football into a consistent team.And
keep posting. It's just that many more cars with hubcaps....Fun to
be had for all.
@VeritasWell I suppose .02 is twice as likely as .01 but it still
means it will never happen. Also I think you are off in your assesment of 7th
place in the pac10 for the utes. That would mean there are 5 teams worse than
they are and I just don't see it. I can only think of 2 that I would consider to
be worse than them next year, colorado and washington state, and to be honest
with you it wouldn't shock me if they lose to washington state.I
think that at best they finish 9th, and only that high if they beat ucla who I
think they will be on par with. Those two teams should battle it out for
9th-10th. The rest are all decidedly better than utah will be.That
isn't a knock on the mwc conference either because I don't think they would
finish any higher than 6th-7th in that conference either if they were still in
it next year. Boise, TCU, BYU, Nevada, SDSU, Air Force and maybe even Fresno
would be better than utah will be next year.Looooong year for ute
GACougar | 1:39 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011Someone please tell me how they
are going to better compete in the PAC than they did in the MWC.-------Here's two reasons:A) Utah is starting to get
better recruits, class rankings over the last decade went from around 80s to now
30s. Top talent from the state usually went to PAC-10 schools, in 2011 Utah
took 4 of the top 5.B) Utah has started to develop more NFL talent,
we became the best mid-major behind TCU over the last decade.Now I
think you would agree that IF those trends continues then Utah will be able to
compete in the PAC-12. Even if we win 8 games playing a PAC-12
schedule you have to admit it is much, much satisfying then winning 10 to 11
wins playing mostly a WAC schedule.
@Veritas Aequitas (Buster)Pick a user name and stick with it.SO why do you, a fan of the 5th place MWC team care what happens to
Utah. Shouldn't you worry more about the lack of talent in your 2011 class and
no experience with your new coaches?If Utah has a 0.02% chance at a
NC then I guess then the probability of BYU winning is even worse since they
haven't gone undefeated in 26 years.
Keep telling yourself that uteology but the truth is utah will seldom even win 8
games. That is the high water mark for utah going forward. Those sorts of
records will leave res an empty wasteland with all of the utah "fans"
latching onto whoever is doing the best at the time. LOL
Duckhunter, You are correct that it will be tough for the Utes to win
consistently in the PAC and that it could be a long year for the Utes next year.
But BYU's season will be very short -- Mississippi, Texas, Utah and
UCF. After that only Oregon State. Everything else is pretty pathetic. I am sure
at this time next year you will be talking about the great 9-4 season the Cougs
had and how they improved so much by the end of the year because they won 6
straight to end the year, including a record breaking bowl game performance by
Heaps against Western Michigan in the Little Ceasar's Bowl in Detroit.
@UU32Always humored by those that criticize a hastily put together
first season for the Cougars. Everyone knows the challenges of putting together
these schedules at short notice.I would not worry so much about BYU
bub. Utes and Colorado were 'plan B' for the PAC-10. Remember they had grand
plans for a 16 team super conference and it didn't happen.6/6 or 7/5
forever at best. Viva Las Vegas!
@uteology BYU already has a National Championship in football. I'd
love to see them do it again but they've already been there and done that. We
don't have to hope it might happen some day because it already has happened.@uu321st season of independence and to tell you the truth
the schedule isn't that bad. There are a couple of good teams (texas and ucf) a
couple of decent teams (oregon st. and mississippi) a mediocre one (utah) and
some average to below average ones.Not much worse than a MWC
schedule we have seen the last decade. Of course it is already getting better in
future years as BYU has deals with Texas, Notre Dame, West Virginia, Georgia
Tech and quite a few other great teams already shceduled. We will unfortunately
have to play a bottom of the pac utah team each year but we schedule teams like
that to pad our record a little bit.
@BusterUtah will not do better in the PAC, than they did in the MWC
unless the PAC is worse than the MWC.-----------Think
for a second.Do you agree that the MWC is better then the old
WAC?Yes? Then how was Utah, a horrible WAC team, able
to be one of the top teams in the MWC? Could it be better coaching?
Better recruits?Ahhh... yea consider your schooled.
@DuckyYou had an easier time winning a NC then making a BCS game.
Go figure!Enjoy the 84' championship and let the big boys compete
for real NC, in a real title game.Go UTES!!
Uteology | 7:57 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011 Fort Worth, Texas SO why do
you, a fan of the 5th place MWC team care what happens to Utah. ===Because I go to the games.What's the weather like in Fort
Uteology | 7:57 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011 Fort Worth, Texas "SO
why do you, a fan of the 5th place MWC team care what happens to Utah."===Three teams tied for third place.San Diego State
5-3 .625Air Force 5-3 .625 BYU 5-3 .625 Been following
sports long?When we mention that you use false logic, and selective
stats, this is what is meant.Enjoy...
@duckhunterFrom the level of insight in your posts I doubt you were around
to see the 1984 championship year if you were you are a bigger embarrassment
than I thought, you said a few days ago that Mormon Utes should be embarrassed
by our fellow Utes but the truth is I am embarrassed by my fellow Mormons who
call themselves cougars and post vile things on these pages, people such as
yourself. Now to talk football you laugh endlessly at the Utes but the truth is
your beloved Cougars lost to the Utes in fact they had 2 wins against teams with
a winning record Utah had 4 including the y-ners. They start the season next
year playing 5 winning teams, I think you can pencil those in as losses unless
of course your alumni are in the replay booth, oh right they fired him!! As far
as recruiting the last 5 years 2 or 3 out of the top 5 in Utah went to the pac
10 this year 4 out of the top 5 but they all committed to Utah. Sucks to be you!
As for championships when we get ours we will have earned it.
@BusterNo, here's how ESPN shows it:TEAM.........CONF......OVRTCU..........8-0.......13-0Utah.........7-1.......10-3Air Force....5-3.......9-4SDSU.........5-3.......9-4BYU..........5-3.......7-6I can
only assume that ESPN doesn't think a 7-6 teams is better than a 9-4 team. If
they were equal I would assume they would be in alphabetical order, but their
not.So, yes at 7-6 you were the 5th best team in the MWC.I hope you go to more games then you have user names.
@dknight68Is that the best you can do? That was barely even legible.
Sounds like you should request a refund on that university of utah education.LOL
can i please point out that utah was still invited to the 16 team power
conference so regardless we have always been wanted by the pac so sorry for byu
that they had to settle for independence hoping one day for an invite somewhere
else good luch in the wcc
Uteology | 7:24 p.m. Jan. 25, 2011 Fort Worth, Texas @BusterNo, here's how ESPN shows it:TEAM.........CONF......OVRTCU..........8-0.......13-0Utah.........7-1.......10-3Air
Force....5-3.......9-4SDSU.........5-3.......9-4BYU..........5-3.......7-6===I understand your
frustration. When facts don't line up, you need to resort to misdirection
(Buster?), and pulling in misinformation.There was a three way tie
for third in the MWC.My stats come from the MWC site.So,
no, at 7-6, BYU tied for third in conference, because that is how conferences
work.Why can't you just deal with reality?
wildscallions | 1:38 a.m. Jan. 26, 2011 Springville, Utah can i
please point out that utah was still invited to the 16 team power
conference...===Which is why it was reported that Utah would
not get in if they went that way, and Colorado was invited, but Utah was not
until it appeared that there was no other option?Geez, kids, line up
texas texas tech oklahoma oklahoma st colorado and utah