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  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 22, 2011 5:47 p.m.

    It will be interesting to see what the Utes do with the two other OC's.

    Roderick rejected an offer from Bronco earlier this week. Hoping he sticks around, Chow could really teach him a thing or two.

    I'm sure UCLA and USC are not happy about this. Talk about having first hand knowledge of your competition.

    Big Get for the Utes!!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 5:47 p.m.

    It will be awesome to see him carve up the unathletic defense that little brother puts on the field.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 5:56 p.m.

    Big time programs hire big time coaches.

    Non AQ programs hire unproven commodities and hope for the best.

    It's the natural order of things.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 5:57 p.m.

    What a great pickup by the Utes. Mendenhall gets Dupaix and elevates Doman, while Whittingham adds Tim Davis and Norm Chow. In terms of experience and know-how it's night and day. Big advantage to Utah.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:01 p.m.

    Glad to have Chow and though I admire your devotion to the Utes Hedghog and Chris B., please don't bring BYU into as it has nothing to do with them accept he used to be the OC their (a long long time ago). To me doing so is sinking to their level as they tend to obsess about all things Utah. We're moving on, no reason to look in the rearview mirror, PAC 12 should be our only concern now. Go Utes.

  • Beaver Springville, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:07 p.m.

    Yawn.....

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:09 p.m.

    I'm very interested to understand what type of offense Chow will run. I say this because the Utes just had a visit (today) from Mike Eubank - 4 star dual-threat QB. He's 6'5 220 4.7.

    Why would they bring in a dual threat 4 star ( with several big name offers) if they plan on the pro style offense??

    hmmm

  • Oregonian Sherwood, OR
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:13 p.m.

    I think Chow is a great hire for the Utes. He will bring a lot of experience to an already energetic coaching staff. Let's hope he still has some innovation in him and can pass it along to the younger coaches.

    Also, it's interesting how the comments of the previous "fans" focus on how this hire will affect BYU. I don't think any BYU fans are losing sleep over this hire. The last time a Chow offense went to Provo they put up exactly 0 points against that "unathletic defense". It's apparent, even after all the changes the past year, that Utah will still judge the success of their season by how well they do against BYU. Little brother indeed.

  • Ticky Burden salt lake city, ut
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:14 p.m.

    To Rock: Amen, my friend. This is about Utah and the future of Utah football in the PAC 12. Like the hire and looking forward to next year. Go Utes.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:17 p.m.

    Nice last time the Cougars played Norm's team the final score was 59-0 advantage BYU. Oh Ya with Max as the QB!

    I expect more of the same starting next September.

  • HatedU springville, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:19 p.m.

    washed up has been. good luck with that ute fans...

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:25 p.m.

    Isn't it amazing how someone has to try and tear down someone else to give them a superiority feeling. Psychologist's say small minded, insecure people do that.

    This is a great selection for Utah. Time will tell if he still has the magic.

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:26 p.m.

    What is with Utah taking all of BYU's former players and coaches?

    Could it be a long history of success vs. two good years?

    Anyway I know Norm and his family. Good people.

    It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:26 p.m.

    I wish Chow well and that is a hard one because I wish the yewts failure. And that is only because of their fans. Max Hall spoke the truth about them.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:32 p.m.

    It will be good to have Norm back. We can now have a great offense to go with the defense that has done so well for so many years. This will really help with PAC-12 recruiting as well.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:47 p.m.

    Didn't BYU fire him? And he ran the worst offense in the country last year. Why is this a big get for the Utes? They just picked up yesterday's news and think it's the future.

    And, of course, without fail, yet again, etc, etc, Hedgehog, Chris B and Howard continue to prove, day in and out (although Chris B actually posted a somewhat thoughtful comment after BYU beat Utah in basketball, but apparently that was a fleeting moment) that Max Hall, no matter if he starts in the NFL or ends up selling phones in the mall, was correct.

  • LCBSoCal Northridge, CA
    Jan. 22, 2011 6:58 p.m.

    Hey, JoeSchmoe, rivalry banter is great, but don't you think it is a bit of a stretch to say Utah has had only "two good years?" If you mean the 2004 and 2008 undefeated seasons as Utah's "two good years," then BYU has had exactly one "good year" in its entire history, and that was 26 years ago. No, sir: 9 of the last 10 bowl games and two undefeated seasons and several 9-win seasons along with 2010's 10-win season all count as "good years." So do all of BYU's 10-win seasons and other good years. Gotta give credit where credit is due, amigo.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:09 p.m.

    Cougarblew,

    Psychologist's also have a term that discribes the TDS very well

    Separation anxiety: is a developmental stage during which the child experiences anxiety when separated from the primary caregiver.

    TDS fans are witness to the seperation:

    Head to head 2-3 and 6-9

    BCS bowl wins 2. tds 0

    Recruiting..... child please.

    And now a NATIONALLY respected OC hire.

    I know it hurts but the process was put into play when the Utes and not the tds were invited to the Conference of Champions.

  • Otis Spurlock Ogden, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:11 p.m.

    Awesome!! PAC 12!! BCS!! Norm Chow!! Go Utes!!

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:24 p.m.

    @DC

    Utah hiring Norm Chow is "yesterday's news" (to quote you), yet your first thought was to come over here and post about it?

    Your insecurity is showing.

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:31 p.m.

    Welcome home coach!

    To the BYU fan wellwishers I say thank you, and good luck to you.

    To the BYU fans spewing their venom I say, would you rather go into the season with one of the all time greats and veteran OC like Chow, or into the season with someone who has never been an OC in his life?

    Speaking from experience, I will take the former. I'm not saying Doman, or Roderick or Schramm won't be good at some point in time, but there is something to be said for experience.

  • TheAtheist slc, u
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:37 p.m.

    The best way to describe this get for Utah is epic win concentrate.

  • ManBearPig Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:42 p.m.

    HedgHog - How do you know Eubank visited this weekend? According to Rivals he's committed to AZ St and doesn't even list Utah as a choice.

  • PAC-12 Envy Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:47 p.m.

    Too bad that Cougar fans can't be gracious enough to offer a simple congrats to the Utes for landing an offensive legend.

    Sad....

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:56 p.m.

    While Cougars fans are busy being twitterpated by Jimmer the Utes are quietly putting together a monster football staff and a major college recruiting class.

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Jan. 22, 2011 7:59 p.m.

    Manbearpig

    It's been reported by mulitple recruiting sites (including rivals) that Eubank made the visit.

    Utah brought him in when Derrick Brown decided to visit Washington

  • Jordan Lynchburg, VA
    Jan. 22, 2011 8:00 p.m.

    And to DC and Mohokat, you prove that all you can do, along with Max, is make sweeping generalizations. Are you choosing to disregard the intelligent comments from Ute fans, or so blinded by hatred that you actually miss them? Please, do tell. Maybe if you stay on your own teams' blogs that this wouldn't be an issue. And if you complain about Ute fans that go on your boards, than you're just lowering yourself to their level. If you come to our boards, show some class, as Max referred to it, and say something nice. Whatever happened to the golden rule anyway? And to all the BYU fans saying nice things, I give a heartfelt thank you. I still want my team to beat yours to a pulp, but thank you, I have nothing against you as a fan or person. God bless.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 8:11 p.m.

    Congratulations?

    I'm surprised someone has not said predictable offense and leftovers in the same sentence.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 8:12 p.m.

    Too bad for Norm that he doesn't have any athletes to coach next year. And a very mediocre QB.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 8:34 p.m.

    Cool....now all he needs is a QB!

    McMahon hasn't graduated from college yet...sign him up...what are you waiting for Rice Bowlers!!

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 8:36 p.m.

    Strange move for Chow, he must have been on his way out at UCLA anyway. I'm wondering how he could think that a mediocre future with a bad offense is a good move, unless he plans to retire soon. And Utah seems very willing to play with bigger money for coaches. Strange move indeed.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Jan. 22, 2011 8:36 p.m.

    Congrats to Norm Chow, legend that he is. It will be interesting to see his contribution to the offense. Kyle will put his all of Chow's talents to work.

    To the Ute Fans. Why is BYU even brought up in this blog. They have nothing in the article. Give the boys in blue a rest!

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Jan. 22, 2011 9:08 p.m.

    Eubanks did visit Utah this weekend and he is currently a soft commit to ASU right now. He is also planning on visiting UW

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Jan. 22, 2011 9:14 p.m.

    BYU's recruiting class is horrific. A bunch of guys with single offers. How can you expect to win and go to a BCS bowl as an Independent with avg. talent coming in?

  • catram North Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 22, 2011 9:22 p.m.

    I wish him well, as a Cougarfan. But, I am hoping that his lack of success over the past three years has to do with the knuckle head he was working for, and not because the game outgrew him.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 22, 2011 9:56 p.m.

    I think Chow is a great acquisition and a great fit for Utah. He was getting a half million/yr at UCLA, You think Utah is at least matching that? Anybody know?

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    hedgehog | 6:09 p.m. Jan. 22, 2011
    Ann Arbor, MI

    Why would they bring in a dual threat 4 star ( with several big name offers) if they plan on the pro style offense??
    ----------

    Let's see... BYU ran a pro-style offense with Chow as coach back when they had a dual-threat guy named Steve Young as their QB...

    I think Norm will do fine, I wish him and the Utes good luck... 51 weeks a year

  • olcoyote West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:05 p.m.

    I am a big ute fan, and wondering why the offense fell off the map the last 4 games of last year. Maybe, they heard rumors in early November that Utah had a chance to get Chow if all the pieces of the puzzle fell together? If that is true, the offensive coaches threw in the towel. That would explain the drop off. Roderick has probably been offered the recievers job if Chow came. That is why he turned down the TDS. Would you accept a position under Doman or Chow?

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    I just want to get something right here. I heard the story of Aaron Roderick being offered in the other paper and thought it a little fishy. So I checked into it deeper. No offer was made to Roderick. He was invited to interview when word that Chow was being sought came out. He was one of many LDS coaches approached and asked if he wanted to interview. He said he was not interested at the time. Nothing more. He was an employee at Utah and still is at this time. Nothing more. Let's not spread the rumor/claim further.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:10 p.m.

    Rock Of The Marne

    The irony of you telling Hedgehog and Chris B. about "fans" who obsess on their opponents made me laugh out loud!

  • TucsonUte Phoenix, Arizona
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:23 p.m.

    Welcome home Coach Chow!!

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:28 p.m.

    Not sure if this will help the UTES but I did like Norm when he was at BYU. Good luck and hope it helps the offensive problems that were lacking at the end of the season. Only time will tell.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:30 p.m.

    Win/win/win/win. Great for Norm as the article explains, great for UCLA, great for Utah, great for BYU. Rarely does something happen like this where everyone wins.

  • Seattleview Federal Way, WA
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:33 p.m.

    This is a good move by Whittingham. BYU Salt Lake ( Utah) will really benefit from Chow's knowledge and recuriting ability.

    Neuheisel is so over rated as a coach. I bet his contract doesnt get renewed at UCLA. He might even be let go next year if they have another year like this past year.

    Congrats also on Utah basketball turnaround. It looks like a average year will keep the current coach in place.

  • manutd Milford, CT
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:36 p.m.

    eh tu brute?

    actually at this point i prefer doman, who although unproven, is on his way up.

    chow has seen better days, mostly at byu/usc. still wish him luck though, even if it is the u.

  • BYU still rules Nephi, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 10:47 p.m.

    I wish coach Chow, the best but honestly, Ute fans crack me up! Howard S. are you kidding me? Did you forget Chow came from BYU? As long as he has great players, he does great. Last year? Not so much. Chris B. I hope Chow helps the Utes carve up BYU's defense just like he did the last time he went up against them. Let's see, what was that final score again? 59-0 even with those superior PAC whatever they are now athletes.

  • technicolor holladay, ut.
    Jan. 22, 2011 11:00 p.m.

    Chow is a good offensive mind; as the pac 10 knows. I'm not sure he has evolved with the game enough over the years. I'm sure Lavelle could hang out in the "calling booth" and let them know a thing or two as to what Chow is thinking. Get over yourselves already; Swoop and Coug fans. This game is still fun in spite of you.

  • UteMan South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 11:03 p.m.

    BYU Salt Lake???

    That is some funny stuff. So you want to claim Chow is a Cougar because he Coached at BYU and at the same time you want to claim Whit, Roderick and Sitake as Cougars since they played at BYU, even though then have spent more time on the sidlines at Utah than they did at BYU. Add to this that Whit and Roderick both had opportunities to Coach at the Y and decided to stay at the U.

    Can't have it both ways folks, but perhaps they all know BYU is a sinking ship and want to get on the bus to the Conference of Champions.

    Just so we are clear, BJ, Scalley and Davis our new O-Line coach all played at the U as did Chow. Simple math would tell you the majority are in fact Utes.

    And by the way...Scoreboard in the following; 17-16, 2 out of 3, 6 out of 9, conference affiliation Coaching and recruiting.

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 11:07 p.m.

    This is fantastic news!! I can't wait for next season to begin. What I don't understand is why so many Zoobs are commenting on this article?? Keep trying to convince yourselves that Doman is an upgrade to Anae I guess.

    Chow's Pac 10 experience will prove invaluable next season and is a tremendous upgrade to the coaching staff.

  • R.Burgundy Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 22, 2011 11:19 p.m.

    It's kind of interesting it takes alot of former BYU Coaches and players to keep Utah a winning program! I hear Crowton is available! Chow is overrated. Look at the offensive stats at UCLA the past few years and they have great athletes. I can't believe Kyle is going to dump the spread offense that got him to 2 BSC bowl games! Good Luck!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 22, 2011 11:32 p.m.

    I am very excited for Norm. He is a class act and I'm sure he will be happier at Utah than he was at UCLA.

    For the delusional Utah fans (hedge and chris b) who think he will carve up the BYU D, may I take you back to 2008 which was the last time BYU played a Norm Chow offense. The score of that epic match against UCLA was 59 - 0. Maybe your definition of carving up is different than mine.

    And for you who like statistics, I suggest you look beyond your 2 BCS wins for solice. The last time I checked, the objective is to win a championship. That statistic is still BYU - 1 National Championship, Utah - 0.

    I do think it's interesting that BYU and Utah each won 3 MWC football championships plus we shared one. However, if you look more broadly at the nine major sports both schools compete in since the MWC was formed - BYU has won 51 mens championships, Utah has won 13.

    PAC may claim to be the conference of champions, but those stats reveal who is the shool of champions.

    Go Cougs!

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 22, 2011 11:38 p.m.

    Question, why is this board overrun with BYU fans and their 1/2 cent? Why not just worry about your team? Obsession comes to mind as an apt word to describe many Y fans on these boards when it comes to Utah.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 23, 2011 12:03 a.m.

    "Question, why is this board overrun with BYU fans...?"

    Simple answer that even you should be able to figure out pebble.

    Norm Chow coached at BYU for 27 years!

    Norm was a great coach in his time for BYU and I'm sure he'll be able to help the Utes improve their offense. It's just too bad he doesn't have much to work with at QB.

  • wazzup Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 12:22 a.m.

    UCLA year in and year out have better athletes and Chow couldn't get a winning season out of his defense in 3 years.

    But I am glad he found his home again. Wish him success until he plays BYU. He will bring some needed maturity to Utah's offense.

    And BYU fans will be just fine with Doman as OC. His finest days are ahead of him. Chow's may be behind him. We'll see. Glad he joined the Swoops and at the same time the announcement made that season ticket prices will increase along with student fees. Brilliant move!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 12:42 a.m.

    I still think that Norm was a success at BYU because he was on the cutting edge with something new and because he had Lavell E. He is now just another OC peddling the same thing as 100 other guys. He will have success if he has good skill players, if he doesn't have them Ute offenses will struggle. I wish him success and would love to see him do well in the PAC. Most Ute fans I know are pretty classy. Most of those who are not post here. Sad to say there are several fans from the other shcool who do the same. You people are like yappy little dogs always barking at cars. The cars don't stop but the yapping continues.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 12:46 a.m.

    Re: Chris B

    You mean the same unathletic defense that held the Utes to 17 points?

    Last time Norm Chow tried to outscheme Bronco, the result was 59-0. (See BYU-UCLA 2008).

    Aside from the unnecessary shots at BYU, this is a good pickup for Utah. As BYU continues to get better athletes on defense, and Utah's offensive scheming improves, the rivalry should continue to be competitive.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Jan. 23, 2011 1:53 a.m.

    Great pick up! The experience of playing in the PAC-10 alone makes this a great move. A-Rod and Shrum now can learn from one of the best in college football if they choose to stay.

    Its funny how BYU fans call Norm a has been yet the best their program can do is DuPaix.


    @BluCoug

    The last time BYU beat Utah by more than 7 points was when Norm Chow was at BYU, so keep dreaming. Oh wait that was also the last time BYU was relevant on the national stage (see 1996 for details).

    Go UTES!!

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 2:20 a.m.

    Three of the last five, daggers to the heart, Uteology!

    But, keep on spinning if it makes you feel better about yourself.

    It'll be interesting to see how Chow's offense functions without a QB.

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 5:57 a.m.

    B Doman will innovate circles around N Chow. One expensive whoops.
    Goog luck Utah in the PAC 12.

  • swissh Alpharetta, GA
    Jan. 23, 2011 6:12 a.m.

    Just as with Coach Whit, any true blue Cougar fan who knows the Y's wishes nothing but the best for Chow (& Whit). Your contributions were terrific and we have no doubt that you will continue to succeed. I live far from my alma mater and have no particular rooting interest in Utah but I will always follow ex-coogs and classy one's at that. All the best to Chow, Whit and the team.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 6:45 a.m.

    Welcome Norm! We look forward to a great offense.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 7:04 a.m.

    Chow will bring an offense that will better compliment the Ute D. We play a professional style D that prepares the defensive players for immediate impact in the NFL, while our O has been lagging behind with reliance on one or two players succeeding in a great coaching scheme.

    With a more professional style O, the Utes will develop their offensive players better for the NFL and will eventually lead to recruitng more talented players.

    And Chow's salary will be public record as he is now a state employee.

    GO UTES and welcome Norm!

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 23, 2011 8:33 a.m.

    I'm not so sure about this move....

  • GoodGuyGary Houston, TX
    Jan. 23, 2011 9:03 a.m.

    Why didn't BYU let Norm become the head coach with Lavell retired? Anyone?

  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 23, 2011 9:14 a.m.

    I have always loved Norm Chow. Go luck to the U in the PAC and Norm Chow. I wish you well in every football game, but one :)

    Several co-workers are from NC ST and USC and, of course, they all love Norm Chow as much as I do.

    I have always thought Norm Chow blossomed at NC ST and USC over BYU because he had better athletes at those schools to work with. The U generally gets better athletes than BYU, so I am thinking that trend will continue. I just think UCLA was far enough down that they were rebuilding from scratch, so it took that long.

    Good luck and best wishes.

    BTW, I had a soft spot for UCLA since Norm Chow was on staff, but now that he is gone, I can go back to disliking all things around Rick Neuheisal. I am not a Slick Rick fan. I sitll hold a grudge for what he did to Colorado when I lived there. Every program he leads turns to ashes.

  • Razzle2 Bluffdale, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    Norm could have been head coach at a Div 1 school. A Whit/Chow team will be a real fun power to watch.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 11:02 a.m.

    Could be a sweet time for Coach Chow to come to Utah and beat the Cougars a few times at the end of his career. Still, this seems to me to be a strange hiring by the U. I would have expected a younger coach with an up and coming resume to relate to today's atheletes. The recruiting at UCLA has been dismal for the past three years and especially this year. Perhaps, that is more indicative of respect for the head coach than for Coach Chow, but it is still a concern. Anyway, good luck Coach Chow.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 11:05 a.m.

    Makes you wonder why Norm Chow has never been a HC? Makes you wonder why he has been spotty as an OC?

    Maybe it was a matter of what he was expected to do where.

    I'm sure Kyle understands the reasons, and will place Chow in a position that they will use his strengths.

    As far as his knowledge of the other PAC teams, his knowledge in that area will help the U.

    Great PICKUP here. There is no arguing that point.

    ===

    Uteology | 1:53 a.m. Jan. 23, 2011
    Fort Worth, Texas

    "Its funny how BYU fans call Norm a has been yet the best their program can do is DuPaix."

    bradleyc | 5:57 a.m. Jan. 23, 2011
    Layton, UT
    "B Doman will innovate circles around N Chow."

    The childish "my brother is bigger arguments" are getting tired and old in this rivalry.

    Dupaix is a solid coach with ties to the state, and comes from an indie school.

    Both are great pickups for their schools as both schools head off in their respective directions...

    Good luck coach Chow. Love what you did for BYU.

  • moodyblue77 Provo, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    Will the Utes change their offense? Norm's not a spread offense guy.

    Will the offense be pro-style? Will it attract quarterbacks who want to play in the NFL?

    Will the Utes have to recruit tight ends?

    Will it be a pass-first offense?

    At Norm's last 2 stops, he did not have a single winning season.

    All these questions will be answered in spring ball. Good luck to the Utes as they move into uncharted waters.

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 1:00 p.m.

    As stated by Coach Neuheisel at UCLA:

    "I've been looking to try and put back together what I feel will be a formidable staff," Neuheisel said. "One that will communicate with the players, one who will do a great job out recruiting and sharing the vision of UCLA and our football program and one that will get along really, really well with one another and check egos at the door. And we will fly as we go down the road. So I'm looking forward to if that can't be the case."

    Now that Chow is with the Utes, will he "check" his ego in at the door, or will he continue his once every 2 or 3 year stints at each of his stops along the way in the past 10 years? not seeing eye to eye w/ the bosses he has worked under since he ran out of Provo pouting, after LaVell ended his tenure? Is it just me, or is this an unsettling trend here? 27 years at BYU, followed 5 others in the last 10yrs? Could it be exactly how his now former boss put it??? How long will he last here?

  • UtahGal Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 1:07 p.m.

    Fun Stuff. If the Cougs got Norm back they would be besides themselves with Glee

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 23, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    MichiganCoog,

    Chow is almost 65 years old. He is here to help the Utes transition into a BCS confernce and mentor the offensive coaches.

    I'm sure his tenure is no more than 2 or 3 years.

    It's a very smart hire for several reasons.

    Mabye Heaps's publicist will be Domans mentor?

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Jan. 23, 2011 1:52 p.m.

    This is on a whole new level of Y STUIDITY. Are you belittling Chow and saying he's a has been when he is known as an offense Guru in football? And now your trying to beef up Brandon Doman as this next great OFF coordinator? DOMAN is unproven same with that guy from Navy or whatever.Your not gonna have more strategy on the field come Saturdays with two unproven Coordinators.

  • hedge hoggs Beverly Hills, CA
    Jan. 23, 2011 2:01 p.m.

    UtahGal | 1:07 p.m. Jan. 23, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Fun Stuff. If the Cougs got Norm back they would be besides themselves with Glee
    ===

    It's my understanding that Chow inquired at BYU, and was asked not to apply.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 2:17 p.m.

    re: hedgehog | 6:09 p.m. Jan. 22, 2011

    "I'm very interested to understand what type of offense Chow will run"

    I am too. Will the pistol be incorporated. Whit IMO should let Norm do his thing.

    Part of UCLA's problem is that Neuheisel thinks he's knows what he's doing.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    "hedge hoggs | 2:01 p.m.
    Beverly Hills, CA
    UtahGal | 1:07 p.m.
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Fun Stuff. If the Cougs got Norm back they would be besides themselves with Glee"

    "It's my understanding that Chow inquired at BYU, and was asked not to apply."
    ===========

    Even if Chow did apply at BYU, he would be bringing the BYU offense to BYU. What good would that really do?

    BYU needs fresh ideas a twist to the offense.

    Utah needs an overhall. Kyle knows a good offense when he sees it. If Chow can't check his ego at the door, Kyle will show the door to Chow, after picking his brain.

    I'm not so sure that Chow had that many options anyway. I'm sure Chow comes in with his ego already checked.

    K-Whitt needs someone that knows the PAC-10 teams, and this a a very good hire for Utah.

    I'm glad they got him.

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Jan. 23, 2011 3:11 p.m.

    Howard S. | 5:56 p.m. Jan. 22, 2011
    Taylorsville, UT
    Big time programs hire big time coaches.

    ..............

    So taking the cast-offs from a weak UCLA program is now considered a "big-time" move?

    SAHHH-WEEEEETTT!!!

    Go Utes...

    We're now "Big Time"...

    Any other fired coaches from failing programs we can pick-up?

  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 3:40 p.m.

    this is a good get for the utes because chow's body of work should bring a little stability to an offense that struggled big time down the stretch.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    WOW, there are quite a number of bitter cougar fans obsessed with the Utes. Childish.

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Jan. 23, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    Hedgehog forgot to mention BYU has owned the u since 1970 and it still has a NC while the u has zero. He also forgot his signature statement...crickets, crickets,crickets

    Nice job on getting Norm, I think he'll enjoy being back in Utah.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Jan. 23, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    You can thank Norm CHow for putting BYU on the map. Now you belittle the guy? How skewed you BYU fans are. And then you try to sell dominance with 2 unproven coord.'s? LOL good luck with that! Texas is going to lay the smack down on you so bad next fall.

  • hedgelog Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 23, 2011 4:42 p.m.

    you'll be sorry!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 23, 2011 5:41 p.m.

    If it weren't for their Cougar Connection, the Utes would not have any coaches!

  • Tired Of The Mess Clearfield, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 5:47 p.m.

    All I see is class envy from both BYU and Ute fans. This has nothing to do with class envy anymore. Both teams have gone their separate ways, lets get over it already. As a BYU fan I am happy for the Utes to get a guy like Norm Chow, I think he will be awesome at the U, and wish him and the ute fans alot of good luck. Just kinda wish we didn't have a guy who cannot park his ego at the door, and hires such crap as BYU did......Just sayin', but in the immortal words of someone named Bronco,,,,,I am uneducated to ever even second guess his decisions.....Enough said! Good luck Utes in the Pac 12, I don't believe it is a case of class envy, as much as a jealousy of having a HC that is willing to check in his ego at the door.........unlike Bronco, and who in their right mind can truely argue? That's exactly why we at BYU will never get a BCS bid, we lack the head coach and the assistants to get there.

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 6:00 p.m.

    Uh wwookie, you and pebbles post in every single BYU article then hypocritically make statements about BYU fans posting in ute articles. You are both a couple of trolls but whining about BYU fans doing the same thing you two spend all your time doing is incredibly hilarious.

    While it is true ute "fans" don't have any credibility anyway it doesn't help your cause to be a hypocrite.

    LOL

  • '90Cougar Hampstead, NC
    Jan. 23, 2011 6:06 p.m.

    Good luck, Coach Chow. This is another BYU alum who appreciates what you did for the Cougars, and wishes you success in your new job.

  • sisucas San Bernardino, CA
    Jan. 23, 2011 6:22 p.m.

    Cool, I would love to see the Utes dominate the PAC-12. Norm has a great history, and under a great coach like Whittingham I think they will do well. Hopefully BYU's newbies also shine. It would be awesome to see two consitiently strong football teams representing the Beehive state.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 8:32 p.m.

    @ Uteology

    I know my history ute! Thats why I brought up the Norm Chow reference stating the last time they played Norm.

    With Bronco's defense they way they smacked around the utes for 3 quarters this last game and the complex of Norm's offense will lead to a BYU crushing the utes. Heaps will slice the the utes up like swiss cheese. (See details of 2008 BYU vs. UCLA game)

    The 1996 BYU team crushed the utes with defense while the Cougars run wild like a leaky faucet through the utes D. Passing was a none factor that day.

  • coachcarter Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 7:03 a.m.

    Hey '90sCoug, Chow played football at Utah, got his Bachelors degree at Utah, his Masters at Utah and then his Doctorate at BYU and all of the sudden he is only a BYU alum?

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 8:20 a.m.

    Blucoug

    That's all you got is 2008 BYU vs UCLA, 1996 and 3 quarters of 2010? lol

    Bottom line, Kwhitt is still the coach and makes the ultimate decision. What Coach Chow will bring without a doubt is recruiting, recruiting, recruiting and knowledge of two of the top programs in the PAC 12 historically.

    I just love to hear the byu homers rip on Chow. It really makes you look even more bitter and jealous than previously thought. I didn't think that was possible!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 24, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    As we speak. Chow is visiting Mike Eubank ( 4 star QB)in California.

    If you don't think the odds of landing this kid just went up 75% your a fool.

    Chow= Big time recurites.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    Veritas

    "Even if Chow did apply at BYU, he would be bringing BYU's offense to BYU. What good would that really do?"

    Think the answer to that one is pretty simple: a lot. Offensive schemes are built on the players that a coordinator has to work with. BYU built its reputation on a west coast style offense of short, timed pasisng routes to set up the run (typically draw plays) and the deeper routes. It played to the strength of the typical BYU recruit and it still does (think Heaps: slow, weak physically but very accurate). Chow is the master of that offense and has mentored a long list of great QBs in that basic system.

    BYU has added small wrinkles to that (as has Chow from time to time) by spreading the defense horizontally and throwing out of shotgun, but that's as far as it's gonna go with the athletes they have and are likely to have, and frankly I'm not sure it's helped that much.

    Had he been willing to come to BYU, Chow would have been a terrific add, but that was never going to happen.

  • OnlyU Draper, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 12:42 p.m.

    Clearly another win for Utah...if even for only the short term. This helps with recruiting, coaching knowledge, national exposure etc. This guy will rub off on two young OC candidates that each now have a winning record with a couple of years of OC experience. When Norm leaves, Utah can look within and find a couple of good options that have potentially learned from their mistakes and gotten better...if not we go get another big name as we just did.

    BYU has limited options - Find a mormon coach with ties to the school or the religion...period. They don't pay well so coaches come for the "experience." I'm fine with that -they come for other things besides winning football...this truly is the difference moving forward and outside of religious doctrine, As a U Fan,I prefer Utah's mentality. The church will assume the TV money for more than just football...as is their right and their belief. You're coaching staff is rarely if ever mentioned for an open job...from Bronco on down. Like it or not there is a reason for this. We look to win games and hire coaches as such

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 12:47 p.m.

    @fender

    You don't even know what you are talking about. You're just spouting stuff.

    1st of all Heaps is neither slow nor weak. He has very decent speed and an absolute gun for an arm. His arm is already NFL strong.

    Frankly most of BYU's past qb's are anything that you described. They actually come in all shapes and sizes with differing abilities.

    McMahon had a huge arm, was very fast and athletic. Young was extremely fast and ahtletic with an above average arm. Detmer was also fast and athletic with an average arm. Bosco had a great arm but wasn't overly fast. Neilsen was tall with a great arm as was Mark Wilson. Walsh was tall and slow but had an absolute gun.

    I could go on but just spouting the same "BYU players are slow, unathletic, weak, bs that ute "fans always try to claim shows true ignorence of reality.

    You don't become a perenially top 25 team with all the individual player awards, nfl players, national champioship, etc. that BYU has if you don't have athletes. It is simply dense, ute "fan" dense, to claim otherwise.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 12:54 p.m.

    fender | 12:01 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011
    Washington, UT

    No disrespect meant to Dr. Chow, but I just think he was a better get for Utah, than he would have been going to BYU.

    He can totally re-work Utah's offense, for the better.

    At BYU, he just would have added, as you put it, wrinkles.

    BYU could have certainly used Dr. Chow. I personally never heard the rumor that I was replying to about (Dr. Chow inquiring at BYU, although I am sure it is feasable that he looked at all his options). I just think DuPaix brings more new cards to add to the deck at BYU.

    Chow can help Utah prepare for the PAC, and that was probably more of an asset to Utah than BYU. DuPaix probably fits BYU better right now...

    Either way, I'm excited to watch both teams play next year...

    (Look at that, a totally nice conversation about sports. That's the way it could be if more posters wanted to be civil)...

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 1:10 p.m.

    uh onlyu...BYU almost always has some no mormons on its staff. They also pay every bit as well as the university of utah pays. BYU's athletic budget is 50% larger than utahs and where do you think that money goes?

    Frankly you are just another no nothing ute "fan" spouting untruths you have read ute trolls like wedgie and christina b spout before you.

    LOL

  • yabuts Springville, utah
    Jan. 24, 2011 1:58 p.m.

    Why would Chow ask BYU about a job after being lied to after 27 years service, not to mention the racial slur by the administration?

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Jan. 24, 2011 2:09 p.m.

    Eubanks is from my town. The kid is an absolute stud! some media has even compared him to Auburn's Cam Newton physically wise. He will turn heads wherever he goes. Not bad for my little alma mater producing such big names as Taylor Martinez, Vontaze Burfict, and so on. This will be Centennial's 6th QB to have signed a D1 scholarship.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 24, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    "Frankly most of BYU's past qb's are anything that you described"

    hhmmm, tye ( tie?) Detmer??? He looked (lookes) like a twelve year old kid.

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 4:48 p.m.

    @wedgie

    Who cares what he looked like since all he did was win the Heisman and spend a decade and a half in the NFL.

    He must have been pretty good. Maybe even a little better than brian johnson or alex smith huh?

    LOL

  • fender Washington, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 6:30 p.m.

    Veritas

    I completely agree with your sentiment. A shame that most of what gets posted is personal and angry instead of a thoughtful and rational. Not sure why discussion of a game provokes downright acrimony, but it seems that it does. Anyway, appreciate your thoughtful comment.

    I'm a Ute fan, but have coached kids on BYU's roster, so I follow BYU with great interest and wish them every success. Will simply agree to disagree with you on the issue of where Dr. (you are correct, he's earned that distinction) Chow would do the most good.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 6:52 p.m.

    Duckhunter

    Relax pardner. I'm not a threat to the country's food supply. If it helps, my wife would agree that I don't know what I'm talking about most of the time. Blogging is pretty much all spouting off, don't you think?

    I probably should have edited my comment, so as not to convey something I didn't intend. By "typical" I was referring to BYU's preference for pro style QBs. My comment was not intended to say that all BYU QBs have been slow and weak: they haven't been obviously. I stand by my opinion of Heaps. I give him full credit for having superior QB mechanics, which is why he was so highly rated coming out of high school as a pro style QB. However, scouting evaluations also said he needed to improve arm strength. It makes sense given that his max bench is little more than two plates and his squat little more than three. His poor core strength also necessarily means that he's relatively slow, which is not unusual for a pocket passing pro style QB. He could improve, if he'd get in the weight room consistently.

  • Penguin Inc. SLC, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    I have a feeling our buddy Norm is going to "Chow" on opposing defense. Hehe.

  • Papa Smurf UTE Herriman, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 11:19 a.m.

    Duckhunter,

    Actually, BYU's athletic budget may be more for their overall sports programs, but they do not pay as much for their football coaches. It is a private school, so they do not release that info, but my uncle is a professor there, knows all the ins and outs of the football program as he played there in the 70's and 80,s, and grew up with Cecil Samuelson, and I know for 100% certaainty that Bronco, Anae, Hill, now Doman Dupaix etc. do not get paid even close to what UTE coaches get paid. Even some of SDSU's coaches get paid a lot more than the Y's coaches. The UTES made a great hire bringing in Chow for a few years to help the transition into the Pac 12. All these ZOOBIES that say 3-5 try to spin it their way & how they want. It is 2-3, 4-7, 5-8, and 6-9. Next year it will be 3-4, and 7-10. I can do it to. GO UTES!!!!!!!!!