I'm no Mormon, but those Mormons don't mess around.
Great project and timing for jobs in the area. Way to go. Right on. Praises
to John Uibel, to be involved and bring this project to fruition. Also outstanding work foresight to the First Presidency for carrying out this
kind of project. Amazing to bring the Holy Land to Utah and for the
educational, and inspirational benefit. No one has to go to the
real place to film the stories and the expense is well spent in the long term.
Many jobs areto be created with the demand for the portrayals a real bonus.
I am Mormon; and you're right.
Where is Goshen?
"No rocks larger than a marble"? How will the Temple on the
"Dome of the Rock" be re-created?
Any value in the future as a Western replica of Orlando's "Holy Land
Experience"? Would tourists be drawn to Goshen? Could the success of the
Polynesian Cultural Center be duplicated in the Utah desert?
When they're not using it for filming, it would be a great place to take the
Ummm...someone needs to tell the reporter that a square mile is 640 acres--NOT
A square mile,known as a section to rural folk,consists of 640 acres..830 acres
would be a little more than a third larger than a section..Not trying to
nit-pick but there are people who would read this article and try to pass off a
square mile as 830 acres,swearing it was the truth because it was written in the
Deseret News..Otherwise a very good and wholesome article about a worthy
This is soooooooooooo cool! Think of all the jobs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!I
hope that they have it open for tours when they are not filming. I have often
dreamed of going to the Holy Lands but am afraid to because of all the violence
that is going on over there. This would not be the same but a close second and
I agree with JanSan, make the grounds as much a replica of the Holy Land as is
"a square-mile area into a parcel of the ancient Holy Land that includes
replicas of parts of old Jerusalem, Bethlehem and other New Testament-period
places."Why aren't they doing the same thing for the BofM history
I'll be curious to see if the role players in the films, and ultimately whatever
sort of religious disneyland this becomes, actually look like authentic people
of the Eastern Meditteranean would have looked 2000 years ago. Or will they look
like church paintings?
SooooHate to rain on everybody's parade here but, this just doesn't give
me warm fuzzy feelings when I keep reading about all the commercial endeavors of
the church and the people in Haiti don't have homes, people are going hungry
here and abroad etc.
Truthseeker,Donate to the Humanitarian Fund like the rest of us.
Should be interesting filming as they are looking for people that look like
middle easterners.Like the idea of making it a place to visit on a family
re: Bryan"Donate to the Humanitarian Fund like the rest of us."
I donate to various humanitarian organizations. I'm also well aware
of the Church's charitable material and financial endeavors (as reported by the
Church) as well as the commercial endeavors. I'm also well aware of the
significant manpower and monetary resources Church members brought together in
2008 for a politcal purpose. The people in Haiti have no homes. They have
no/limited potable water. There are many countries around the world with
similar issues and where LDS missionaries serve. A movie set, high-end
shopping and luxury housing doesn't do it for me. I stand by my statement.
Truthseeker, are you suggesting that the church should do nothing else but pour
all of their resources into solving the housing problem in Haiti?
i'll give Haitians my movie lot if you give them your home.
Is this the most judicious use of the tithing funds given to the church by
members rich and poor?
To Truthseeker: How do you know that the Church is not already building homes
in Haiti and elsewhere around the world? No where in the article does it
mention high-end shopping or luxury housing about the movie set. The problem is
you don't understand that the high-end shopping that is being done as Citi Park
is a business venture and not using the tithing money from members to finance.
The same with your so called luxury housing. The political purpose was a moral
issue and thus significant to the Church but again no tithing or other money
used for the finances of such.You say you give to humanitarian
organizations but it is evident you are not a member of the LDS Church. You can
stand by your statement but it is wrong to judge something you have actually no
knowledge of except what you read in the newspapers. Until you know for
yourself why it stands your judgement is that of man not of God.
If the Church is looking for an analog of the Sea of Galilee, then Bear Lake is
a near-perfect duplicate. I've seen both, and the resemblance is uncanny.
Truthseeker - better keep seeking. it doesn't sound like you are anywhere close
to that gem. Even if the church could sell everything it owned and feed the
world ONE meal before being depleted, it would do no good until mankind learns
to dive in and take care of self, no more depending on governments that are
dishonest (Haiti). I'd give my house to Haiti if I thought it would do any good.
But I realize that between my hand and their need is a whole flock of
politicians and crooks taking everything. And....I looked and looked in
the article for the announcement of the major mall and living center. What are
you thinking? The church owns the land. There are computer geeks who can take
those pictures and re-create just about anything, and Voila' films are created
that help us "revisit" the land of the Savior. I'm excited. If it can
become a Holy Land Martin's Cove, so much the better.
The church has strict rules about how funds are used, tithing or otherwise. I
never question the use of money because it is the Lord's money and He can do
with it as he pleases. The Church alone cannot feed the poor of the Earth.
That is also not the mandate of the church. There is good reason for this film
project and I thank the Lord for the technology available to bless our lives
through film. There will always be critics of the church no matter what the
issue is. They come and go all the time but the caravan moves on. Excellent
@Bill in NebraskaThe luxury housing and high-end shopping i was referring
to is Citi Park. I understand Prop 8 was a "moral" issue. So is
poverty, but we had a massive mobilization for Prop 8. I read
MormonTimes.I read the Ensign. I know the Church provided some
temporary housing/material in Haiti and publicizes their humanitarian efforts.
I know the Church has tremendous assets. Money is fungible. All
Churches in the UK have to publish their financial statements.
John Uibel is a creative phenom. This is a great project, and it will be a
So I type out a comment, and when I go to submit, I am informed that it is
rejected for including a "non-wrapping long line." Couldn't you please
allow me to edit the problem and resubmit, rather than just swallowing the
comment up into the void of cyperspace to be lost forever?The gist
of my comment was that the LDS Church assists with emergency relief but prefers
to focus on long-term improvement in conditions, and to do so by 1) spreading
the gospel (which teaches people how to become independent from addiction, from
debt, etc, and become self-reliant), and 2) then looking after the temporal and
spiritual needs of its members. And that the project is
cost-efficient, since they're using this set for not one video but for a myriad
of videos--an entire video library. Also, sets are built to be
temporary. They're just for looks. "Stone" walls are often made of
foam; the only parts of buildings that are constructed are those that the camera
will see. It could not be converted into a theme park.
I have mixed emotions about this. I have been there three times in my life, but
my ancestors settled it about 1857, a goodly part of them after surviving the
Martin Handcart treck.I remember a pretty fair graveyard full of
relatives I didn't know I had, and a dusty little village on the edge of the
desert.I think this is an interesting project. I may even get to
visit it should I live so long.
The land of Goshen already exists in Indiana. The Mennonites think of themselves
as a "peculiar people" separate from the world, a people avoiding
worldly pleasures and worldly sins. It is a part of primitive Christianity that
has never wholly disappeared.This project is really about Mormonism
I suppose the film segments produced will be useful. As long as the Church isn't
delving into historical fiction again, a la Legacy, Testaments, and Joseph
Smith: Prophet of the Restoration, I have no major beef with this project.
I love it. And our former home teacher has been an actor in Church movies. Very
fun to see him unexpectedly.
To Makemud Ahnadumjihad: What you call historical fiction is based on real life
testaments to the LDS Belief. Not historical fiction but real life moments into
the history of the Church. Your is based on your opinion and opinion only not
on any real facts.
I enjoy all the video presentations of the church. This is my request, because
all the viewing resources in the ward library are TV's. All the video formats
that we currently have are 4:3 or full screen. The latest presentations produced
seem to be 16:9 and even letter box which makes it very hard to see the
presentation on a TV screen. Can the current programs and new presentations be
given an option between full screen 4:3 and wide screen 16:9 or letter box. It
would be really helpful thank you.
Truthseeker, The claim "the people in Haiti have no homes"
needs to be qualified. The Church has donated towards various relief efforts in
Haiti. Beyond this, this is creating jobs. Jobs grow the
economy. Lastly, your claim to be well aware of the donations of
the Church to humanitarian causes is under-minded by your attempt to imply that
the only major mobilization of the Church membership towards any cause was in
2008.The amount of on-going work towards various humanitarian causes
extended by members of the Church probably could be more, but it is clearly not
given proper recognition by your sneering comments.Lastly,
considering the amount of things the Church provides fee, such as the Mormon
Tabernacle Choir Concerts, your sneering and rude remarks totally miss the
CHS 85, Considering that tithing is to build up the Church, and one of
the key ways to do this is through missionary work, and this is about providing
for creating ways to better do missionary work in this multi-media age, I would
say yes. What next, are people going to attack the Church for
printing the Book of Mormon with tithing funds? However, these
materials will also provide for better enhancements and aids to instructions
both in classes and in the home. The way some of the comments on
here are phrased one would think this is a Holywood-type movie lot that the
Church will be renting out to MGM and Fox to make movies. Nothing is further
from what is actually going on, and so like so many of the attacks on the
activities that the Church is involved in, is totally unjustified.The LDS Church is one of the bigger tax payers in Utah, due to its many
activities that do not involve tithing funds, but it only seems to get hated for
The LDS Church is in a no-win situation. It takes the hard decision and cuts
staff at the Deseret News to keep it close to a profitable operation, and there
is no end to denouncing it for not stepping in to save jobs.It then
goes and creates a film lot for the production of films that act to advance its
central mission and purpose inthe context of modern communication methods, and
people act as if this is some sort of scheme to make Thomas S. Monson a rich
man.The very idea is ludicrous. It really seems some people read
"movie set" an assumed this was some for-profit venture. Nothing
could be further from the truth. This is a for curriculum venture.Beyond this, as Elder Robbins pointed out building this set in Utah is much,
much cheaper than filming on-site in Israel. So considering that fact, this is
actually a less expensive project in the long-run than other projects have been
in the past.
I just feel a need to specifically mention that the LDS Church helped re-build
entire villages destroyed by the Tsunami in Sumatra where the entire population
was uslim.The Church provided not only tents in the immediate
after-math of the earth-quake in Haiti, but it also provided the materials to
build houses later on. The LDS Church aid was not only immediately after the
earth-quake, as Truth-seekers dismissive comment implies, but continues to the
present, having involved a large shipment to help in the wake of the cholera
epidemic in the country.
It looks like the architects and builders have a created a very nice movie set
with an ancient appearance. I wonder: Did Jerusalem look 2,000 years old 2,000