Best BCS-buster game yet, Congrats Frogs!! Wisconsin was great, but you were
better!I try to be a fan and not an anti-fan, but I am a huge
anti-fan of Jim Delany.MWC Champ > BigTen ChampBigTen
0-5 on New Year's Day (1-6 overall, if you throw in Nebraska)Non-AQs
are 4-1 head-to-head overall against the "big boys"Eat
your heart out Jim Delany, TCU just ate your lunch!
You're right Mr. Gee (Ohio St. University President). TCU and Boise St.
certainly has no business being mentioned as contenders for the national
Another New Year's Day. Another dismal showing by the Big 10 conference. What
Just like the 08 Utes, TCU won't get their shot to prove who really is the best
team. After watching them this year, they are a lot like the 08 Utes and a few
of BSU's teams, they could play with any of the "big boys" and beat
them most of the time. The Utes, Frogs and Broncos have all been shafted by the
BCS. And probably just like 08, the frogs will be "rewarded" a number
2 ranking after Oregon/Auburn winner. Whoohoo!
Now the issue is conference victories.The MWC went 4-1, with the
only loss to a WAC team that beat TCU last year.Interesting, that
one of the TCU player's mentioned that "God's Hand" was involved after
the game. Wow, a Christian University player mentioning God, like God cares who
wins a football game? Personally, I have no problem with it, but I know that
there are some football fans that will try to drag him through the mud.Secondly, Brent Musburger noted the class of TCU saying how happy they were to
be in the RoseBowl. Not whining that they should be in th NC game, that the TCU
staff and team to a man said they were happy where they were ranked, and would
watch the polls come out.I don't know if that will change, and if
they will do something embarassing, like throw a parade or three and claim
themselves #1, but is refreshing to see a class organization represent the MWC
in a BCS game.Coach Patterson, we will miss you and the class you
bring to the national spotlight for the MWC, and the non-AQ teams...
Only team to beat a MWC team in a bowl game the last two seasons = Boise St.But the BSC conferences are SO much better. /sarcasm
Great game horned frogs, way to represent!2 BCS games for TCU and
counting2 BCS games for Utah and counting2 BCS games for Boise and
counting1 BCS game for Hawaii and countingmid major byu - 0 BCS
games with no hope for oneCongrats to these 4 great programs
In terms of "game" nothing will match the Boise-OU Fiesta. Of course
as a Ute fan, my favorite BCS-busting game was Sugar '08.But this
was a great game with two solid teams and a chance for the "little
guys" to stick it to the establishment.Mission accomplished.Betcha the SEC is happy Auburn won't have to play TCU to win the
championship.And yes, the Big-Ten did lay an egg so far (except the
Hawkeyes, of course).So who do you take in the Sugar this year?
Either way, it's the establishment that wins: Ohio State, President Gee and Jim
Delaney, or the SEC (Arkansas) that is intent on staying the only conference
that can consistently vie for the national championship?
Good game by TCU and Wisconsin. Glad they won and played for all the little
guys. Wisconsin is a very good team also. When TCU joins the Big Easy that
conference will become the Big Easy plus 1. TCU will dominate them. TCU is a class team with classy players. You most likely will end up ranked #2
in the final poll.
Congratulations to the Frogs! This team was real from the very beginning. Total
domination in and out of the conference.Geewiz, just wondering what
kind of conference the MWC could have been if everyone had stayed and then add
Nevada and BSU. If a sweet TV deal would have emerged...
I'm no fan of the bcs but I really can't see how TCU is getting the shaft.
Neither did utah in '08 or boise. The fact is that there is not a playoff so
there is no way to decide these things other than opinion and I suppose in the
opinion of more of the people that count Auburn and Oregon are better teams than
TCU. Until there is an actual playoff then voting on who is national
champion is the only way to do it. The sham is that the bcs lays claim to
deciding who can be voted on. They make an artificial matchup of the two
"best" teams and then insist whichever of the two wins is the national
champ. If they wish to preserve the bowl system I am fine with that
but they need to layoff any claim to crowning the national championship and
simply leave it up to the voters to vote on whichever team they think is best
from all of the teams in the country regardless of what bowl they play in.
Congrats to TCU on an impressive victory. That leaves Utah as the only MWC team
to lose their bowl game. Way to represent!Utah has no national
championships and no hope for one.
TCU 16-3 W L record against AQ schoolsway to go
Very glad that BYU will not have to play TCU in the years to come. I'd much
rather that they play the other teams in Texas right now. As for Chris B
- talk is all you'll have for the next few years.
Veritas,I thought the same thing. Didn't Dalton say something about
God exalting them? I wonder if the kids on the hill are running
around having a hissy fit a player said that. To all those in the category:
keep breathing, its ok. Life will go on I promise. No need to crucify Dalton
or the Horned Frogs. Or is it just when a byu guy says it?
Great job TCU! One classy school with great fans. I will miss seeing them on the
The Disillusionist: It was peaceful on these boards until you opened your
mouth. All I can say is, 2 BCS bowls, 2 BCS victories in this decade! And that
has more significance than BYU's 1900 something championship no one
remembers.BYU leaves MWC cuz it just got harder and no chance to
bust the BCS in the MWC. Utah moves to a BCS conference called the
"Conference of Championships", TCU moves to the Big East. What
conference did BYU move to??? I know...conference of loneliness. Your jealous,
don't deny it, your post says it all.
Thanks @MiP, how could I forget Iowa's victory over Mizzou, the Jayhawk Nation
thanks you. BigTen: 2-8 in bowls, with Nebraska thrown in.I gotta
go with Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl. Except for maybe Oklahoma, no team has
gotten so much love from the BCS with so little in return as Ohio State. And
its Ducks all the way in the BCS "Championship."I'll meet
you at the McD's in Coralville tomorrow as I pass through tomorrow!
Super game to watch. Both teams were very well matched. Wisconsin's run game
was great. Dalton was amazing and made plays all over the place. Both teams could do well against Auburn or Oregon. Until there is a real
playoff there is NO NATIONAL CHAMPION only conjecture.TCU is well
coached and has a great system in place for winning. Speed kills. Easily the
best bowl game so far!
Mountain West - 3 BCS - 0 victories. This is getting old and boring. The poor
AQs (automatic qualifiers) continually getting beaten up by the outsiders. How
long will systems designed specifically to make the rich get richer exist in
america? Especially when they DO NOT deserve it! The BCS is 100% un-american and
turning into one hell of an embarrassment! Good thing they pitted TCU vs Boise
last year so two AQs didn't get pounded!! Un-American BCS - Big Crying Shame!!
Disillusionist: True Utah is the only MWC team to lose their bowl game---but
it's also true they've represented the conference well the past decade in bowl
games.Plus that means that Utah has wins against 3 bowls winners
(@AFA 9-4, @SDSU 9-4, and BYU 7-6). Pitt has a chance to improve that if they
win nwxt week. Plus, their two regular season losses were also by bowl winners.
What does all this mean? Utah will finish in the Top-25 (I'm
guessing ~#23). I expect Tulsa and UCF to be there but you can kiss WV and
Hawaii good bye.I'm not disillusioned, when you look at the overall
resume, Utah finished 10-3, will likely be ranked Top-25, and had some memorable
games. While I'd admit they took some lumps on TV, overall---they represnted
Congrats TCU, and thank you for snagging some of those BCS dollars for the rest
of the league. Not every conference champion has been able to do that.
NewMexicoUte,"The Disillusionist: It was peaceful on these
boards until you opened your mouth."You obviously did not read
Chris B.'s comments.Please don't spread hate about BYU and going
independent. They left the MWC for much of the same reasons that Utah left.And be careful about claiming that BYU left because they are afraid of
next years' MWC teams: BYU is in much better shape next year than Utah will be.
It can be reasonably argued that this year's 7-6 BYU team was better than Utah's
10-3 team. And after watching the Vegas bowl, I think BYU would have stood more
of a chance.Congrats TCU on your big win!
The Big 10 got exposed today, ouch!!!Great win for TCU! Congrats to
Congrats to TCU, a classy team with a classy coach. I doubt we will see them
filing lawsuits, throwing themselves parades andt thumping their chests, and
whining like a bunch of bratty kids who didn't get their way. Class is something
some teams will never have regardless of what conference they move to. The Ute
fans gave the PAC 12 a little preview of their lack of class this year during
the TCU and Notre Dame games (the BYU game goes unmentioned). It is great when
they prove all by themselves what everyone else already knows.
This win gives the MWC 4 out of 5 bowl wins, with the ewes suffering the only
loss. Congratulation TCU and the MWC!
The best team from the Big Ten (Wisconsin) got beat by the little sisters of the
poor (TCU). How did that happen Gordon Gee? Maybe you should be more concerned
about what your players are doing with their Ohio State Buckeye trinkets.
re: newmexicoute Don't worry, we saw you in your U of U gear at the UTEP/BYU
bowl game, and how disappointed you were when BYU destroyed UTEP....you left at
halftime, kind of like the U fans that bailed at halftime at the TCU and ND
games. You apparently care so much about what BYU does or doesn't do that you
will go out of your way to pay money to watch them play! Thanks for the support!
Great win for the frogs. I wish it would have been BSU instead, but that did not
work out. Such is college football. Lets hope that BSU, TCU, and BYU can make
some AQ schools and the BCS as nervous next year as they have the last few.
To Riverton Cougar: I suppose you think UTEP is a better team than Boise State?
The way you worded your post you do think so. Big mistake! You need to compare
the end of year opponents!
What has this to do with BYU versus Utah. Neither of these teams were close to
what TCU was this year. TCU has proven again that great teams can come from
the mid-major conferences. Nice Job TCU, and thank you for being a
Nice job TCU. Fun game to watch.
The Big 10 has 8 teams in bowl games this year. So far they have won ONE game.
Anyone betting THE Ohio State will win? I wouldn't put any money on them.
Congratulations Frogs on another great season.Unfortunately, the
rigged system didn't give you the opportunity to play for a national
championship, still the ultimate major college football achievement, regardless
of what a few clueless hill dwellers may think.
re: Re : Duckhunter | 7:15 p.m. Jan. 1, 2011 Exactly. TCU, Utah,
& Boise have done the very most expected of them and been rewarded for thier
efforts.Further, the Frogs and the Utes have been presented an
opportunity to move up & accepted the challenge. While there may be growing
pains, The possibilities are endless. BYU, however, wanting more exposure took
Irrelevance blvd to the basement closet in the Great & spacious building.
Re: Mountanman | 8:39 p.m. Jan. 1, 2011Colorado St
I called the MWC winning 4 of 5 and I called the loser. Not that it was hard.TCU should have won by quite a bit more. I'm glad that Wisconsin kicker
missed in the first half. I'm sure all the gamblers wanted to die since the
spread was TCU by 3. haha.
Congrats to TCU. Too bad so many BYU fans have to continue to take digs at Utah
despite the story having nothing to do with Utah or BYU. All I can say is
scoreboard and please refer to the overall records because only in BYU dellusion
land is 7-6 better than 10-3 (3rd 10 win season in a row).
Props to TCU. The only drawback for me was Dalton taking a page out
of Tebow's book during the interview w/ Erin Andrews. Matthew 22:21
In my mind, if Oregon beats Auburn, TCU should be #1.
Way to go TCU! It's great to see any non-AQ show the "big boys" they
have been taking advantage of a fraudulent system all these years. Good luck in
your new conference. Very smart move, especially the weakest AQ conf. there is.
Wish you had one more game to determine the REAL Natl. Champ.
@ NewMexicoUteGood luck trying to watch a ute game in the coming
years, you'll be hard pressed to finding it on TV. BYU fan won't have that
problem. ESPN + BYUTV = a GUARANTEE TV Exposure yearly.As for TCU
and their fans congratulations on your big win, very impressive especially when
the other team comes to play for the win. But you best win of the year is the
thrashing of utah 47-7.
Does anyone know what time the utah v. SDSU baskeball game starts - it's gonna
be a real thriller.
There is one difference between the U in '08 and TCU this year. In '08 the U
was the only undefeated team standing and beat a previously top ranked team
soundly in the Sugar Bowl. There case of being shafted was stronger than TCU's.
I would take TCU over OR or Auburn. WI was the toughest team for them to play.
Their defense would slow down OR and Auburn and those teams defenses are nothing
special. Yet another great undefeated college team that we will never know how
good they really are . . . .
Congratulations, TCU. Good win.Yes, the Big Ten was exposed this
year. But, Iowa isn't the only Big Ten team to win a bowl game, so did
Illinois. This year, they were a mediocre conference, but still had all those
lofty tie-ins, resulting in the best teams in the Big Ten playing against better
teams across the board.
MWC fans should be pulling for Arkansas in the sugar bowl for the following
reasons1. SEC is the most likely AQ conference to support a playoff
system. A SEC sweep of the BIG10 and the PAC10 will make that more, not less
likely. SEC fans see the possibility of an all SEC final and like it. A
playoff benefits the SEC tremendously, but it opens the door to all FBS
conferences.2. Arkansas was a nationally relevant program for decades,
then fell from grace. Despite the knocks on Petrino for leaving Louisville and
Atlanta, he has laid a compelling blueprint for rebuilding a great program,
including at least one game each year against a non conference rival, schedules
which are among the toughest in the nation. 3. If Arkansas wins they will
have played one third of the top 21 teams in the final polls and would have
beaten 5 of them, including co champs in the Big10 and the Big12 Sourh. They
clearly demonstrate that the notion that you have to be undefeated to be a
contender is foolish.Finally, an Arkansas win means even more crow
for Mr. Gee.
The quality programs of the MWC all came through this year with bowl wins!
Congratulations to all.
@Chrissy B. Thanks for sending the hate to BYU about no chance of ever winning a
BCS bowl. The way you predict things, BYU will be there next year for sure now.
First off Congrats to TCU. Secondly, all of you zoobs who are
pounding your chest because byu won it's bowl game and Utah didnt, just remember
Utah lost to one of the best teams in the country, and byu beat one of the worst
teams in the country.hardly an apples to apples comparison.
@ Marne, Scoreboard huh? Last time I checked the scoreboard, TCU was a winner,
BYU was a winner, and Utah was not. Too bad utah could not take their football
team to the small 10, where glossy records hide the true nature of the lousy
team, until they get exposed in a bowl at a neutral site.
TCU has been light years ahead of anyone else in the MWC the past two seasons.
No other team in was able to play any where near their level. The
Frogs played a great game. One can hardly say they dominated in a game that
almost went to overtime against #4. TCU is clearly a great team but not NC.
The Big Ten? More like The Big Tin. Congrats to TCU.
@ConferenceofchampionsConference titles and women's gymnastics
aside, of what exactly has Utah ever been champion? Utah is moving on to the
PAC-12 to become the "breakfast of champions."It certainly
wasn't for any "championship" merit that Utah received their invite.
"Breakfast" merit? Now that's another story.
Conferenceof...Since the Utes have only won 6 conference
championships in the last half century, it'll be a back to the future experience
for the Utes -- see Arizona 1979 to 2010.
Ok DuckHunter, let me get this straight. You don't think that TCU, UTAH, or BSU
got the shaft? And that the best way to choose a NC is voting? Wait....this
sounds familiar........Oh, ya, thats what happened in 1984. BYU ran the table
that year (like the Utes), didn't play a single team that ended the season in
the top 20/25 (Unlike the Ute's), beat the 5th place Michigan Wolverines from
the Big Ten, who were 7-5 that year, and were crowned NC by a vote of 36 to 18
(Washington getting 18 votes). Of course you don't think they got shafted.
Heck, that's completely fair. What Koolaide are you drinking? Barry Switzer
said it best. Washington was the best team in the country that year. Utah beat
the team ranked #1 by the AP for 7 weeks handily, finished the season as the
only unbeated football team, and were not awarded the NC b/c of the BCS. Which
by the way, was created because of you guys. Why not let the two undefeated
teams in the Nation TCU & AU/OU play to see who really is deserving to be
To bad Utah is the only Mountain West team who can't win a bowl game.
Marne, COC:Thanks, kids, for telling us which of your selected stats
are to be used for today's board.Last I looked, the last five times
the Utes have put on Uniforms to represent the midmajor conference, and the
University, they have lost once in football and four times in basketball (twice
to the WCC).And, BYU won their bowl, Utah lost their bowl....Conference of Champions?Really? Do you know of a
MWC title Utah won last year besides womens tennis?cricketsHow about a rule that Utes can't post again about being in the Conference of
Chamions until they get a mid major conference title in any sport this year?How about a rule that Utes can't post about winning until they have a
team win a game again?Could make for a peaceful New Year...
I'll take a blowout bowl victory over a poor team then a blowout bowl loss to a
good team anyday!Go Frogs! Way to represent the non-AQs!
As a BYU grad (yes, this is true) can I say this to my fellow BYU brothers.
Let's not make too much hay about BYU's bowl win over UTEP or ride Utah on their
bowl loss to Boise. Some reality is in order. BYU loses to Boise
just like Utah and Utah beats UTEP just like BYU. Yes, schedule does matter.
It is great that MWC has a 4-1 bowl record but in the grand scheme of things
these were nice wins but only the TCU win is significant because it came in the
Rose Bowl over a BCS team. San Diego State's win is second most significant
because it came over a quality opponent Navy, while Air Force's win over Georgia
Tech is next. GT comes from a BCS conference but was just a .500 team. BYU
might actually own the least significant bowl victory because they beat a 6-6
non-BCS team who had lost five of their last six games. UTEP was definitely the
weakest team in the field.As for Utah's bowl loss. The Utes didn't
play well but who really expected them to win?
It's amazing some ute fans put their team at the level with TCU and Boise State.
Comparing the TCU game with the ute & Cougars==BYU is closer to the level.
Even Cris B could have predicted this.
TCU will be contenders for the future and if the BCS stays as it is, we may get
to see them play for that mythical NC title. TCU will do well in the Big East.
Utah and BYU's future is a bit more nebulous. The fact remains that
the Utefan posters have changed the tenor of their posts about being in the PAC
12 from very confident to very doubt-filled. They feel compelled to heap doom
and gloom on BYU's future, while ignoring the ignominious possibilities for
themselves. (See Hedgies recent posts). The inferiority complex emanating from
the hill is nauseating. I commend Utah for their recent success,
which led them to where they are today as part of a BCS conference. But when
will Utefan get over having to obsess with what BYU is doing. Consider
navigating your own obstacles, which are now many(USC, OR, Stanford). The Ute's
road to a NC, even with the hope of a playoff in the future, will now be
considerably more difficult. It would be refreshing to see one Ute fan man up
and admit that without comparing Utah's future to BYU.
re: anti BCS | 10:08 a.m. Jan. 2, 2011 And how exactly have
independents done in the BCS era? hint: not as well as mid majors.
@ Chris and Hank.... Y'all need to be embarrassed by Utah's performance this
year... They started out as the talk of the league and ended the year being the
laugh of the league.Here's what MWC fans will remember about 2011...
A) 3 teams are leaving the conference (all qualified for bowl games even though
one was not suppose to)...B) 2 teams that remain in the conference also
qualified for bowl games... and probably the most memorable of MWC Football
2011, C) all bowl qualifying teams won except for one depriving the league of
the real possibility of having the only undefeated conference in post season
play... Utah was an embarrassment but fortunately it will be the PAC 12's
embarrassment in the future...I had hoped that TCU would join BYU in
the restructured BIG 12 next year or in 2012, but it looks like it won't be in
the cards.... Outside of our sole bowl loser though, the conference teams really
made us proud this year.
Congrats TCU and Coach Patterson! Great coaching and team chemistry! They
deserved everything they got, they worked hard for it.The Utes need
to rip a page out of TCU's playbook and learn from this! Coach Whit needs to
find a way to recruit athletes like TCU's and BSU's players. Hire an offensive
minded coach that will teach discipline! The Utes have a ton of talent, I don't
think they know how to use it because they don't have the right plays to best
utilize the current players on the team. That is a huge problem! I know Gary
Patterson would take some of these athletes on the Utes roster and turn them
into superstars! Go UTES!
The BCS is a $$$ club to keep the "little" boys out. Next year TCU
will get in by virtue of joining the "Big" East. Boise & TCU
clearly belong in the BCS games.
There for a while, I thought this would be one set of comments in which Ute fans
wouldn't bash BYU, and vice versa. No such luck. Grow up Utes and Cougars.
what a great game. TCU represented the non AQ conferences well and showed them
they can play with the big boys. What a joke the Big 10 is. 0-5 this year.
Can't include Nebraska in there yet. The arrogance of the BCS. It should be
declared a monopoly and served with Ricco Crime papers. Only the
PAC 10 calls themselves the conference of champions. No one else does. Now that BYU is not in the MWC the big schools are scheduling them, ie
Texas, Notre Dame, Mississippi. Great things yet to come. New
Mexico Ute you are truly sad. It seems "you" remember the 1984
championship, something the Utes will NEVER, EVER do. They will be eternally
playing in the Las Vegas Bowl because that is where they will finish in the Pac
12; in 3-4 place. It must gall you that BYU did something you have never done
and will never do. You will go to your grave hating. What a moniker for you to
hate someone. WOW shows your class.
Too funny. BYU fans ragging on Utah for the bowl loss (new flash Utah had won 9
in a row something your little school in Provo has never come close to doing).
You won your bowl game but you played the equivalent of New Mexico or CSU but
yet you boast about your accomplishments (not to mention a 7-6 season including
a loss to Utah). I guess beating UTEP would be a big deal to BYU fans since you
have never played in a BCS game and maybe only once in January (in the second
tier Cotton Bowl). You guys (BYU fans on these boards) are just jealous little
ankle biters who's teams can't get to a BCS bowl or far in the NCAA tourney so
you have to tear down your rival who has done far more (and far more recently)
than your team. Heck, the Big East preferred TCU (a one team school) over BYU;
after dealing with the Y fans I understand why.
TCU has one more year in the Mountain West and is lucky to play Boise St. in Ft.
Worth in 2011, which should be quite a game.
Rockymoron), I can't wait to hear your explanation for the Utes 5-7 season next
year. How you will manage to somehow interject what BYU did (except for handing
the U one of their losses)and what that has to do with Utah's season should make
for some funny reading. No bowl for the Utes? Oh, the horror!!
Shouldn't mediocre BYU be beating their chests for destroying a mediocre UTEP in
their bowl.Shouldn't slightly above mediocre Utah be hanging their
heads in shame for getting destroyed by a very good Boise State in their bowl.
Utah fans have been beating their chests for years about their bowl
winning streak, which on closer inspection, was built mostly on cupcakes. Now they're making excuses because they lost to a ranked bowl team.No surprise.Alabama is the only team ranked higher than 20th
that the Utes have ever beaten in a bowl.Wash St #15/#17 LOSTUSC unranked/#25 LOSTArizona #20/#20 WONPitt #25/unranked WONAlabama #6/#6 WONBSU #8/#8 LOST (estimated rank)BYU has
played more ranked bowl teams(17), including 15 in the Top 10, than Utah has
played bowls(16).Makes you wonder what Utah's bowl record would be
if the Utes had played TEN Top 15 teams, instead of all of those cupcakes.
First and foremost congrats to TCU, the best team in the MWC over the last 2
years. Good luck next year.Just to remind BYU fans...A)
Utah threw a parade for the ONLY undefeated team in the nation while BYU
celebrated at Provo Airport for a 1-0 team.B) KW backed his 2008
team just like Bronco did for his 2009 team, neither got what they wanted by the
judges:"Our program is on its way to continued national
prominence," said coach Bronco Mendenhall, who added that his team could
land in the top 10 of the final rankings. -- DN Dec 23, 2009
(Cougars manage Vegas blowout)C) No where in the World except
apparently in Utah County is a 7-6 team better than a 10-3 team.
I'd like to welcome the frogs to the BCS victores club. For all those
"fans" outside the understanding of what winning a BCS bowls feels
like, I only have pitty.TCU FINALLY shed the embarrassement of
having to hang on to glory days of decades past (NT 1932) and can now feel proud
about winning a modern BCS bowl.It's somewhat of a pity that our
little sister of the south gave up all opportunity to overcome such an
embarrassment. Oh well, the tds always have WCC (that's what they
call it right?) basketball.
TCU has a very large pool of athletes to draw from and thus they have dominated
the MWC. By the way, TCU wasn't worried about repping for the
"little guys". You see when you STOP thinking that you are a
"little guy" then you can take it to the next level. TCU's goal
pyramid in their locker room had National Championship on it for YEARS. Now BYU
and Utah, Stop this silly "little guy stuff". It is NOT attractive
nor does anyone care. Utah is in the Pac 12 and BYU is an Independent now so
I can't believe byu fans are knocking utah, you guys beat utep and utah lost
yes, but to one of the best teams in the nation, i will go as far as to say that
utah had the toughest bowl opponent out of anybody in the mtn. west. byu hasn't
even been to the bcs so don't even include yourselves in that conversation.
beating utep doesn't qualify you for much of anything
@ dillusionist "Conference titles and women's gymnastics aside, of what
exactly has Utah ever been champion?"Champion of beating
BYU...how do the numbers 54-34-4 sound? or 2 out of the last 3, or 6 out of the
last 10?You are blue with envy with Utahs INVITE to the Pac 10.
Yes, INVITE. All you enivious zoobs can do is HOPE that Utah will struggle in
the pac 12. ybu would have died for the same invite. You can try as hard as
you can to make youself feel better, but in the end, we have moved on. And
independence? Come on, every team in the country is scrambling to align with a
conference, and ybu has to do something because big brother moved on, so they
hatch this crazy idea. You like to make predictions...here is my
prediction...ybu is nothing but intramural sports in 10 years. But hey les will
make a nice venue for helaman halls vs deseret towers in 2021....
BTW, all of you zoobs wrapping yourselves in conference championships just
remember....you are no longer part of a conference....so, my money is on the bet
that Utah will win a conference championship before BYU does.No more
conference records....no more conference affiliation...nomadscrickets, crickets...
@UteologyYes, a 7-6 team is better than a 10-3 team, whenever and wherever
a 10-3 team needs gifts from the replay booth to beat a 7-6 team by a point.
Recent bowl performances only validate that observation.@hedgehogOnly a Utah fan would care about forming, let alone belonging, to a "BCS
victores club" [sic]. Translation: "BCS victores" [sic] are
pseudo-championships for programs who have yet to win a real championship. TCU
and BYU have national championships. Where's Utah's? Oh well, Utah
will always have the WCC--including, most recently, the Portland Pilots--to
remind them of what their basketball program once was, and how bad their
basketball program now is.
Good-bye college football....sigh.....see you in 8 months. Thanks for the
entertainment.... Go Boise State!
Why spoil a great day for TCU? Why not?First, they beat a team from
the Big Losers and are moving to the Big Least.Second, their coach
has no class (where is this classy stuff coming from?).Third, their
mascot is a horny toad.Fourth, they claim to be playing for the
little guys but left the MWC without even saying thanks to the league that made
them.Fifth, if you're not playing for the national championship, the
BCS is just another Bowl Game making the big conferences richer.Jim
Delany wins again as his boys lose like crazy and don't have enough players to
carry all the money back home.
@conferenceofchampionsPrediction: Utah will struggle in the PAC-12.
They will be the "breakfast of champions."Counter-prediction: Independence will work out just fine for BYU.
I love how when a Ute fan posts something on here about our BCS successes, a
zoob has to get back with how "insignificant" those wins were because
they still weren't NC's. I wonder if BYU spent their share of the millions of
dollars that Utah provided them with their 2BCS wins or if, like tithing on
gambling money, they sent it back out of stubborn pride? I'll go with they spent
Can't believe their coach and QB did not push the fact that they are probably
the best team in the nation to stick it to the BCS!They should start
an "Unoffical National Champions" campaign with T-Shirts, media events
and such!Down with the Un-American BCS!
Rock Of The MarneFor someone who is constantly posting at BYU fans
to stop trash talking....
hedgie,BYU and the WCC conference are lightyears ahead of newt basketball
this year and for the forseeable future. Don't make comebacks so easy.
yankees27,Yes we did and thanks for the dough. Good luck chump in the
conference of chumpions.
BYU lawyers 21 - UU lawyers 14. Close game. Both teams scored some good deals,
but I think BYU lawyers pulled off the victory. BYU going independent is a
better deal than Utah going to the Pac 12.Good luck to both
teams.I can't wait for the real football games to start again.