No question that Cougar Nation would love to have Ty back in the fold as qb
coach and working with Brandon Doman as O.C. He may not want to give up the
life he has right now but I have to think that the competitive fires still burn
in him and that if given the opportunity, he would probably take it. BYU is
heading into a whole new world of independence and Ty and other former Cougars
who have been mentioned as possible asst. coaches would be great to have on
Detmer can coach, no doubt about it. Will he come to Provo? I am skeptical, but
Well done Harmon. You just described the exact vision of what a good Offensive
Coordinator is supposed to encompass and project...something that Anae has never
come close to. Had Mendenhall been given the opportunity to have picked his own
Offensive Coordinator instead of being forced to keep an administratively hired
Anae then he would have reached for someone with vision. Someone who could have
come closer to the mark of the quest for perfection. Someone like a Doug
Scovil...or a Norm Chow...Possibly even Tye Detmer himself at the time. But
here we are 6 seasons later and it's obvious that with all the changes in
conference alignments and the dissassembling of the WAC and the MWC, that BYU
had reached a time of needed change. This is a completely new era. A time of
growth and a new direction for BYU. The thought of "Going Independant"
earlier seemed purposterous at first. Something so inconceiveable as to
completely raise flags of protest all across the Cougar Nation. Now that
we are here and have made the switch there seems to have come a new breeze of
fresh air out of these Beautiful Wasatch Mountains. BRING IT ON.
I am NOT a Cougar fan, but alas Mr. Harmon you are correct....even Cougar haters
love Ty Deter.I hope those "competive" juices, however,
flow in favor of his wife & kids. 14 years in the NFL...stay in Texas.
Your influence on the world is meaningless if it doesn't start at home.
Don't know if it will happen but if Ty can be lured into coaching it won't be as
a quarterback coach under Doman. He knows roughly 100 times more than Doman
about offensive philosophy, defensive structures and philosophies, balancing
strengths and weaknesses and personel issues. Ty has been around more systems
than Doman even knows about. Don't get me wrong, I love Doman and know him. He
needs to be retained. But he would be made better learning at the side of
Detmer than he would trying to do the OC job alone. You don't want a OC who is
constantly asking his QB coach what to do next. It would be better to have a QB
coach asking the OC what he wants his QB to do next.
I don't know him, but if Detmer is really devoid of ego as he is portrayed, then
QB coach is ideal for him. He could be the celebrity recruiting closer, wouldn't
have to work as hard and the promise of more free time might be more attractive
to him than a fancy title.
Place them where you will. Call it there mission, or contribution, or what ever
you want to call it, but do call them:Ty Detmer: HC or QB
Coach or OCSteve Young: HC or QB Coach or OCBronco
Mendahal: DCChad Lewis: TE CoachBen Cahoon: WR
CoachHarvy Unga: RB CoachBrandon Doman: Use him
somewhere/anywhereLet all other coaches and assistant coaches be
determined by the committee above
Yes if Ty does come to Utah he will be the OC not the #2 guy. Doman should
remain the QB coach and Ty hands down without exception named the OC if not even
take Bronco's spot ! Oh yes did I say the unspeakable !That is why
Ty Detmer will not be on the staff at BYU because he out shines any of the
current football coaching staff members."POLY" Cougar
Does it matter who bYu gets. You cougar fans will just run him off like so many
Few within or without the spiritual confines of Mormonism possess Ty's humility.
I wish him well in Texas or Utah.
I would love to see Ty at BYU too. I do think he would come in as OC not QB
coach. He knows offenses way too well not to completely put him in charge of the
offense. And Doman is doing a great job right where he is. Doman deserves a pay
raise but I would love to see him continue to mentor Heaps as his QB coach the
next few years.I would assume the question for Ty would come down to
giving up a life that seems like paradise for a husband and father. Maybe after
his kids gaduate?Also, anyone even mentioning Steve Young is nuts.
He makes millions working for ESPN a few days a week. He would be nuts to give
that up and we would be nuts to assume he would.
Ok folks, let's be realistic here! Ty is a great guy but let's not forget he
has never been an OC nor had any kind of meaningful coaching experiences
before. Name recognition alone does not transmit into being a great, let alone
successful coach. He still will have to prove himself and only time will tell
if he's got it or not. Having said that, I would love to see him join the
Cougar program if a coaching opportunity is offered. If nothing else, he would
be a great help in the recruiting department just by mean of his name
recognition only. Go Cougs!!!
Detmer, Young, and Doman are three of my all-time favorite QBs to ever play the
game. Even though Detmer did not have great success in the NFL, it is a fact he
was a great teammate and student of the game. I am sure Doman would defer to
Detmer's wisdom and experience and between the two of them the offense could
strike fear in the hearts of opposing DC's trying to figure out how to defend
them. They would get the most out of the talent they have available to them.Go Cougars.
Detmer would be the best thing to ever happen to BYU football. He would be an
incredible Offensive force! No he is not a proven OC, but lets look at the
facts. The guy played 14 years in the NFL. though he did not do
anything monumental. Coaches would hold onto him because he was a genius in
offensive schemes and reading defenses. He was basically an assistant OC at
many of the teams he played on.And lets face it. Anything would be
better than Anae. He was an O-line coach for crying out loud! His play calling
is ridiculous. He does not read defenses and is not knowledgable in calling a
successful offense.Here is what I would like to see...Bronoco
will and should remain head coach. Bring Detmer in as the OCBring
Luke Staley or Curtis Brown to coach RB'sBring Chad Lewis to Coach WR's
and TE'sKeep Anae or Reynolds to coach the line.Keep Doman as QB
CoachBronco is a great Defensive CoordinatorI think this
group could do great things in Provo!
While I agree Detmer might turn into a good hire as an offensive coach all the
calmoring for guys like Steve Young, Chad Lewis, Curtis Brown, Luke Staley, etc.
is not well thought out. None of those guys is a coach of any sort
and what leads anyone to believe they would be any good at it? Just because they
were a good player doesn't mean they would be a good coach. Look at Brian
Johnson at utah. He was a decent college player but does anyone think the utes
qb's got better this year? Isn't that the job of the QB coach to improve the
qb's? In my opinion that was a disastrous hire for utah so let's not make the
same sort of stupid mistake at BYU just because we have a fondness for a
particular ex-player.Make sure they can coach 1st, that should be
the only criteria. I really couldn't care less about a name. But I really don't
care about anything but winning anyway. That is my only priority.
Chad Lewis already has a job with the BYU athletic dept. Something to do with
fund raising, like an assist AD. As a great people person, that is likely where
he wants to be. I could see him running for political office someday.
I think Ty would look best in Under Armor
optimist,I do agree with one of your thoughts.Bronko is NOT a Div 1. head coach. I think he'd be a great student councillor
There's no question that Ty knows football and would be a great addition to the
coaching staff. However, he has little to no significant coaching experience
and he will not be brought in as O.C. The same thing is true of Steve Young who
would never give up his cushy ESPN gig anyway. Doman on the other hand, has
paid his dues and proven his coaching abilities. He is definitely a leading
candidate for the O.C. position and the only way he doesn't get it is if Bronco
brings in someone with more experience and that doesn't mean Crowton or Chow as
some have suggested. Meanwhile Ty could be a great qb coach and working
together with Doman, they would make a great team.
The skills to be a great player are different than the skills to be a great
coach. Unga was the best RB in BYU history, but no way you'll see him as a
coach at BYU. Young won't leave his great gig for the stresses of coaching.Also, there is no way BYU will demote Bronco to DC. But they will bring
in coaches who completely own the offensive side of the ball. The OC will be
elevated above its current status so Bronco will have the time he needs to focus
on the defense.Detmer would be a great addition. Hopefully he knows
the fish are bigger in Utah and there are more acres to hunt deer. I
can only imagine how frustrated Bronco and Jake were when Anae called three
running plays to end the Utah game. We struggled to run against them all game.
We were passing against them with relative ease. This had to be the "straw
that broke the camels back." Hopefully Anae lands on his feet.
1) Detmer is awesome2) Good article in general3) I'm not sure Miami
wasn't the same after that game. I think probably losing Jimmy Johnson to the
Cowboys had a lot more to do with any luster lost. But also don't forget that
the Canes won a National Title about 10 years after this game and played for
another the year after. They were far from done as a national power.
One need only look at the list of QB's that Detmer helped mentor to know what
kind of quarterbacks coach he would be:Steve YoungBrett FavreMichael VickMatt Schaub
Agreed 110% that Detmer is brilliant and savy. However, after reading this
article, in which it was pointed out how much Ty cherishes his 'alone time' and
just how little of it he'd get if he became Division 1A college coach (or
whatever we call it nowdays), I doubt Ty will come.Plus, he's just
one season into his Texas high school coach commitment. I heard they lost every
single game this year. I doubt he'll walk away from that just yet because I
suspect he believes he owes the players, the school and their community
community a program better than 0-and-a whopping lot.Don't get me
wrong; it would be awesome to have him but I doubt he'll come.
He sounds pretty happy. And why give up such happiness?
I will always make time for Harmon-written articles. Like a great
chef, he knows how to provide nourishing meals for a hungry cougar nation, and
at the same time, annoy the haters. What a combo meal.
Ty Detmer won the Heismen Trophy and should become a QB Coach which he will
bring another one to Jake Heaps - which make sense!
Doman appears to be a good QB coach, and I have no doubt Detmer would make a
good one, but BYU makes a serious mistake by elevating Doman to OC or bringing
in Detmer to run its offense. It would be better off sticking with Anae than
doing that.A sucessful offense involves more than just throwing the
football. A consistent winning offensive scheme at the D1 level is built on
running the football, and that involves understanding fronts and offensive line
play. Coaches who have a firm grasp on all aspects of offensive football are
relatively few in number and are guys most fans have never heard of.Bringing in a former star QB and big name may sound like a good idea, but it's
not much different than assuming that because somebody was a great driver he
will naturally be able to design, build and repair a Formula One race car.
As I read Dick's article, felt some pleasure that at least someone was
addressing the 900 pound gorilla in the room: does Ty even want to come to coach
at BYU. People have been writing about it for years as though it were a church
calling that one would be hard pressed to refuse. Unfortunately this
point sailed well over the heads of many of those commenting here, most
particularly Optimist, who seems to have advanced optimism to delusional. Here
we have the assumption that a wide variety of people, ranging from Chad Lewis to
Harvey Unga (what, no Andy Reid?) not only want to coach but are coach material.
We have to start with the fact that Harvey Unga is still on the Chicago Bear
roster. Yes, I would love to have Detmer in Provo as much as anyone.
As opposed to all the other wish-list names, he has proven himself - his whole
NFL career was as an assistant quarterback coach - ask Bret Favre.
I have always thought Ty Detmer would wind up coaching. He's a natural and
probably one of the few Heisman Trophy winners humble enough to work with youth.
I'd love to see him in Provo.
I always chuckle when fans trot out their wish list for the Cougs' coaching
staff and it includes nothing but former players. How much evidence do we need
that big-time playing talent does not necessarily correlate into big-time
coaching talent?Someone suggested Harvey Unga? Umm . . isn't he
still planning on playing in the NFL? What am I missing? He'd be in the 2011
draft if he hadn't have his little honor code issue. And Luke Staley? Really?
Based on what? Great RB, but we know zip about his desire or ability to
coach.Bronco's not a genius, but he's not an idiot either. He'll
find the right combination to give his boys the best chance at success. If they
include brand names like Detmer, great, if they don't, just win, baby.
I met Chad Lewis at the New Mexico Bowl. He said that he only accepted the
position in the Athletic Department on the condition that they let him work with
the tight ends. So in effect he will be on the coaching staff as well. I would
love to see Detmer on staff as well. Maybe as co-offensive coordinator with
Doman? It worked at USC with Sarkisian and Kiffin.
Dick, A marvelous,insightful piece about Ty. He would be the "Hope"
diamond of coaches and a welcome addition to the BYU staff. I don't know much
about football, but as a person, as you describe, he certainly would be an
island of stability that seems needed in BYU's football program right now.
Seems to me that his presences would help lighten Bronco's load. Glad I only
had to fight chainsaws in my work instead of BYU football fans and Ute
complainers (who seem to be one and the same today)Keep up the good
In my opinion, Ty would be a great QB coach, but he needs more coaching
experience before he'll be ready to be the OC. Give him some time to get used to
coaching at the collegiate level before piling that kind of pressure on him.I think Doman would make a great OC. He has a similar drive and mindset
to Bronco, and he knows how to coach, but maybe even more important, he's a very
good recruiter. We wouldn't be seeing anymore two-quarterback
systems or BYU sitting on the ball at the 20 when there was still plenty of time
to get a touchdown or at least get within chipshot FG range.
Would love to see Detmer as the new OC (now in 2015). This article is more
relevant than ever now that Sitake is the HC. There is a wealth of knowledge
Detmer could bring to the job, not to mention his recruiting abilities. I would love to believe the rumors out there right now that he's