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Two Utahns who spent childhood in internment camps say history must not repeat

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  • RRB SLC, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 5:21 a.m.

    I enjoyed the article up to the point that it tried to equate putting the Japanese in camps with Hispanics that commit illegal immigration. People resent all those who come here illegally, the fact that they comprise 75-80% of our illegal population creates the resentment. People don't resent the ethic group, just the actions by some of their people and organizations that promote illegal activity.

    Every war has atrocities on both sides. The Japanese still have not apologized to the Chinese for using kidnapped women to entertain their troops. And Americans living in Japan during WWII were put in POW camps and most killed when the US dropped the bombs. America needs to stop hanging our heads over our relocation camps. We prove to be no better or worse than the rest of the world.

  • JBrady Murray, Ut
    Dec. 6, 2010 6:03 a.m.

    America does not have an anti immigration attitude towards Hispanics. They make up 36% of our legal immigrants, yet are only 7% of the worlds population. Non Hispanic Caucasians receive 16% and Africans receive 7% by comparison. They receive preferential treatment.

  • LOL holladay, utah
    Dec. 6, 2010 8:13 a.m.

    This travesty, plus the justification of nuking of civilians may have been the beginning of the end of a noble America as we once knew it.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Dec. 6, 2010 8:22 a.m.

    Let the same advise apply to those who were tortured, murdered, and abused by the Japanese at Batan, in China, and Korea during the war.

  • Not So Fast Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 9:06 a.m.

    I don't thing all that much has changed. When Iraq and the Islamic culture became perceived enemy, many of those sharing that culture and religion in the US were are are under fire. I have heard people talk about "rounding 'em up" or something like that to "keep America safe."

    Enough fear and we would, sadly, do the same thing again today.

  • lion in zion salt lake city, ut
    Dec. 6, 2010 9:06 a.m.

    oh boy ...xmas and already satan clause is out there..i feel for you sir ..seems america got its idea on the concentration camp from the reservation camp which was created to segregate and genocide a people who gave em the constitution by the way of the Iroquois...then without the navajo , who weren't allowed to vote as utah was the last state to recognize Native Americans as citizens in 1956 while all the polygamous were allowed to and possible still vote while not living the law of the land which emanates from that consitution. So smooth are the words which make a wrong seem right, want some free land?

  • sisucas San Bernardino, CA
    Dec. 6, 2010 9:38 a.m.

    "biggest blemish on the U.S. Constitution this country has ever seen"

    Hardly. Has this guy ever had a history class? I am tired of these Japenese concentration camp articles that pop up every now and then. Has he heard of the Native Americans? the black slaves? The order to exterminate Mormons? The civil war?

    Yeah, it was a difficult experience for him and his family and they lost a few years of their lives. So did my grandpa when he was captured by the Germans. Millions of Americans' lives were shattered when their brothers, fathers, cousins were killed by Japanese soldiers. It was war and war is terrible. The problems finding work and places to rent after the war had nothing to do with the government lockdown; it's simply human nature do distrust the people who look like, talk like and are related to the people killing your friends and family members.

    The real testament to the greatness of America is that despite our mistakes and follies we have a national conscience that seems to make us try to right our wrongs. These people ended up having good lives and fared much better than those in Japan

  • pat1 Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 9:54 a.m.

    Racism is something that abounds in every country. At least we admit it is here. And, true, every generation has to deal with it.

  • Kenwa Mabuni Provo, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 10:06 a.m.

    Wayne Rout: they are talking about AMERICAN citizens!!! whatever the Japanese did to their Asian neighbors during the war has nothing to do with them.
    Pat1: accepting its existence does not mean we have to be complacent about it.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 10:13 a.m.

    Where is the AL Sharpton of the Japanese?

    That's just it...you won't find one!

    I have a profound respect and love for my Japanese fellow Americans....their contribution to American Society is Priceless!

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Dec. 6, 2010 10:18 a.m.

    Racism still exists in the US and this could happen again. This can happen to US citizens purely because of race. You see it with people who are anti immigrant, even legal ones all the time.

  • LOL holladay, utah
    Dec. 6, 2010 11:01 a.m.

    America has been taken over by that nasty, racist, rich-worshipping group that calls it self "conservative."
    The only thing I see that is being conserved is a stark resemblance to the 3rd Reich.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 6, 2010 12:31 p.m.

    @LOL:

    We should all be like you.

  • Lyle Springville, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 12:43 p.m.

    The remains of Utah's Topaz War Relocation Center are still there to be visited amid the sagebrush and sand near Delta, Utah. There is a very enlightening set of monuments (authored by Mr. Nagata and others) in the parking lot, and you can still walk around and see foundations and bits and pieces of the buildings and their contents (which you have to leave in place, of course).

    You can see it on, say, Google Earth at 39°24′40″N 112°46′20″W.

  • AlanSutton Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 12:51 p.m.

    Internment camps were not about racism. Many German-Americans were also interned in camps, most in Texas and New Mexico rather than Utah and other western states.

    After the attack on Pearl Harbor, the country was concerned about loyalty. Everyone -- from the President, Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court on down -- was concerned about the issue of loyalty. I don't think we can blame them or the country for their reaction. It was normal in those days.

    Personally, I blame the Government of Japan. It attacked a country it knew had many of its own -- and their children -- living within its borders, without thinking twice about them or their well-being.

  • BobP Port Alice, B.C.
    Dec. 6, 2010 1:02 p.m.

    It should not have been done. The same idiocy happened here in Canada. I targeted the wrong people.

    Be that as it may, the only Canadian executed for war crimes in Japan, was a Japanese Canadian who went to Japan and was employed as a prison camp guard. He beat many of his fellow Canadians to death,

  • Question Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 1:09 p.m.

    I'm confused... Did somebody suggest we SHOULD repeat it???

    So why the need for this article?

  • LOL holladay, utah
    Dec. 6, 2010 1:58 p.m.

    As the radical right-wing continues with its uber-nationalism, war-mongering, sexism, racism, and now clamoring to put laws put into place to pick up and dispose of undesirables, we inch closer and closer to unbridled fascism.
    And the easily duped, by talk-radio pundits (just like Goebbels did) go merrily on their way promoting all of it.

  • Kenwa Mabuni Provo, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 4:01 p.m.

    The attitude in many of the comments seems to be something like: Well bad things happen everywhere so mentioning what happened to the Japanese-Americans during WWII is a waste of space in the Deseret News website.... Well my friends sometimes we just have to become aware about things that happened...so that we do not repeat them again.

  • LOL holladay, utah
    Dec. 6, 2010 4:25 p.m.

    It is impossible for anybody from the bizarre neoconservative movement to admit fault in their twisted thinking process.
    To them it would be the biggest blow to their ego.
    Liberals on the other hand would like to see America formally apologize for the internment and for the wanton destruction of Japanese civilians in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
    This was America's darkest moment and even Republican and General of the armed forces, Dwight David Eisenhower knew how appalling the act was.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 5:18 p.m.

    I grew up in Southern California and post 7 December fellings were running very high and someone unfortunately could have been hurt. Chinese people walked around with a Nationalist Chinese flag lapel pin to designate they were okey. It happened but the papers should be able to find something else to write about. For that matter I am cancelling my subscription because the Deseret News has gone to pot.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 6:28 p.m.

    RE: LOL

    IT was your beloved progressive democrats that created internment camps and intern japanese during world war 2, and dropped the nuclear bomb,

    it was also your beloved progressive democrats who interned germans during WW1,

    it was also your beloved liberal demcrats, the created reservations for indians, and created the policy of manifest destiny to take thier lands,

    it was also your beloved democrats that supported slavery,

    it was your beloved unions that were orginally created to protect jobs FROM blacks and the new immigrants,

    all the early industrialist were demcrats,

    it was your beloved progressives that wrote books on propaganda and eugenics that hitler used,

    it was your beloved progressive racist demcrats that created planned parenthood, in an attempt to lower black and other undesirable populations

    so blame the rich, the neoconsertive, talk shows host all you want,

    you can continue to rant and rave, spew your hate and falsehoods,

    but ALL the bad things were perpetrated by your beloved liberal progressive democrats.

  • utahman Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 6:54 p.m.

    The American government did an injustice to native Japanese but also did an injustice to its own American citizens living on Guam. When WW2 was over, Congress passed a law that prevented the citizens of Guam from suing the nation of Japan. So now a compensation bill for the citizens of Guam who lived through the occupation is stuck in Congress with no resolution in sight. Just like the greatest generation, who are dying at over a thousand a week, the survioring citizens of Guam are dying. I guess Congress will wait until there are so few remaining, that the compensation payment won't be too large.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Dec. 6, 2010 6:59 p.m.

    @the truth:

    Thank you for hitting the nail on the head and educating LOL - I sent 2 comments earlier in an attempt to do what you have done, but DN ignored my comment.

  • Skeptical One Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 10:25 p.m.

    The point of this story is that we are a great country where we can look back on our mistakes and correct them. We are better than than most other countries and we should protect the Constitutional rights of everyone regardless of what feels good at the moment or what "scares" us today. We are a better country than what a few politicians pandering to public fears are trying to turn us into. Utah is a great state that has created opportunities for all kinds of pioneers no matter if you arrived here in 1847 or 1947. Let's keep it that way and protect our civil rights regardless of color or creed.

  • TheWalker Saratoga Springs, UT
    Dec. 7, 2010 12:21 a.m.

    When was the last time a Buddist blew himself up in order to receive glory and honor in heaven? Have any Jewish leaders called upon their followers to kill selected civilians on sight? Have any Hindus decapitated American journalists?

    As long as there are Muslims within our borders threatening to destroy our country, we would be foolish not to be wary of those that declare themselves to be followers of Islam.

  • The Rabbit (in Spanish) Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 7, 2010 12:59 a.m.

    It is a convenient thing to evaluate the correctness of the past with the enlightenment and knowledge of the present.

    I would to remind everyone that one reason we have the enlightenment and knowledge of the present is because we did what we thought was necessary to survive in the past.

    It is not productive to look back over several generations of time and fret over what should have been done by those who are no longer here. Move forward. Do the best you know how while letting your conscience be your guide.

    I'm sure the things we do now will be evaluated by our great grandchildren and some of them will find fault, spending their limited time on earth worrying about others instead of focusing on the integrity their own actions.

  • zen-gal Holladay, UT
    Dec. 7, 2010 2:09 p.m.

    @ LOL. My sentiments exactly!

  • Hope for the future Clearfield, Utah
    Dec. 13, 2010 5:18 p.m.

    I understand that these things have happened in the past and in other countrys, but we can not justify our actions by saying another country did it as well. This is America, and we as a country should be working together to make the US a better place. We can not say that the internment camps were the best thing possible. We were driven by our fear and thus we beleive that we must be correct in order to feel better about doing this.