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  • Bo Jangles Meridian, ID
    Nov. 29, 2010 10:00 p.m.

    Go Utes... extend the bowl win streak to 10
    99 Vegas - Fresno
    01 Vegas - USC
    03 Liberty - So Miss
    04 Fiesta - Pitt
    05 Emerald - Ga Tech
    06 Armed Forces - Tulsa
    07 Poinsettia - Navy
    08 Sugar - Alabama
    09 Poinsettia - Cal

  • FAYM Fruit Heights, UT
    Nov. 29, 2010 10:03 p.m.

    Ohhhhhhhh... I hope it is for a basketball game.

  • Bronco Loco Henderson, NV
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:24 a.m.

    I think you Ute fans will be coming back to Vegas more often than you would like as a 4th or 5th place team in the PAC-12.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 4:13 a.m.

    Go utes! a possible rematch with ND?

    With three weeks to prepare, the Utes will be ready to dominate whoever they face.

  • govt rocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 7:44 a.m.

    If it is Ohio or Temple (as espn is predicting) I would rather not go. No offense to those teams, but would fans really be excited to watch?

  • sledhead Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:26 a.m.

    BYU / Utah Rematch on a nuetral field. AWSOME!! The way things are looking, that would be the best match up they could get.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:50 a.m.

    @ sledhead

    Why not a rematch. Florida and Florida St did it back in 96 when BYU should have gone there for NC but end up at Cotton Bowl. Bring it on. And many more to come for utah at LV Bowl.

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:50 a.m.

    Just keep playing Jordan Wynn. He knows his stats against 6 win BYU.

    1st half: 8-18, 113 yards, 0 TD, 0INT

    2nd half: 5-12, 86 yards, 1TD, 1INT

    Vegas Bowl would have to do something unprecidented, but to let BYU-Utah finish their unfinished business... would be the Utes worst nightmare.

    Send them to the PAC with a good win, or a good thrashing. Either way, it would be good for the LV Bowl, and the Utes.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:51 a.m.

    I'm hoping for BSU. If the Vegas bowl could pull that off, national and regional interest would be very good.

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:14 a.m.

    re: ute-chute

    What do you mean "finish their unfinished business"?? Didn't they finish on Saturday with Brandon Burton laying on the turf soaking in the last second block of Payne's field goal....in my mind that DID finish the business they had. I'm sure BYU fans don't feel that anything is finished, but that is how they have felt 6 times this season (Florida St., Nevada, Air Force, TCU, Utah State, Utah)....so keep wishing!

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:03 a.m.

    To Ute4ever

    Have Utah play the schedule BYU played this year and the Utes, too, would be a 6-6 team.

    As for the LV Bowl, the Utes will find over the coming years that it just might provide their most frequent holiday vacation trip. That is, when they actually get the chance for a bowl appearance.

    Utah has been in two BCS bowls during the past decade. By going to the PAC, they wanted to improve their chance for a BCS bowl. They'll find, I'm sorry to say, that getting there with a 12-0 season in the MWC provided them a much better chance for that. The past decade provides clear evidence to prove my point.

    Don't hold your breath in hopes of seeing the Utes in a BCS bowl, even as members of the PAC-12. On the other hand, they do have a respectable chance to replace Cougars as the most frequent LV Bowl contender.

  • yankee doodle Layton, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:08 a.m.

    I really hate the Utes. Hope they come home crying after they lose the bowl game, especially Jereme Brooks.

  • RunningUtes Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:49 a.m.

    BYU fans are soo prideful...
    i find it hilarious that you think your 6-6 team will do just fine against ole miss, texas, oregon st, georgia tech, notre dame, and boise st.
    why dont you guys try and worry about your own games coming up and stop worrying about the utes?

  • bookonwomen Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:01 a.m.

    Re: yarrlydarb | 10:03 a.m

    "Have Utah play the schedule BYU played this year and the Utes, too, would be a 6-6 team."

    Are you serious? Utah beat air force and would easily beat Utah St. Utah would beat washington also. Utah beat pitt and crushed Iowa st, 2 teams that BYU would struggle to beat.

    To make a final point Utah just beat BYU. You are delusional!

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:04 a.m.

    @ RunningUtes
    Hasn't BYU already beat Oregon State pretty handily...last year.
    We've beaten ND in South Bend ,something you couldn't do. When is ND coming to SLC again?
    They are all winable games. BYU's record now, does not indicate how well they're playing now...we took the U to the last play didn't we?

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:08 a.m.

    wwookie

    "a possible rematch with ND?"

    NOT LIKELY!

    In fact, a possible rematch with ND is more than likely the reason the Las Vegas Bowl is waiting until the opponent is decided before they select the MWC team.

    The Las Vegas Bowl doesn't want a rematch of Utah/ND or BYU/Washington.

    If the Las Vegas Bowl can get Notre Dame, the most likely MWC representative will be BYU.

    Bowl games are all about money. They couldn't care less which teams are most deserving. All they want are teams that will create the most interesting matchup to draw the most television viewers, and, teams that will bring the most fans.

    I do find it interesting that after years and years of knocking the Las Vegas Bowl, Utah fans are anxiously hoping for an invite to Las Vegas.

    A Utah/Boise State matchup would be interesting. But, be careful what you wish for Utah fans, a matchup with Boise State would most likely bring Utah's bowl winning streak to a screaching halt.

  • afro14 Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:13 a.m.

    @ Bronco Loco

    "I think you Ute fans will be coming back to Vegas more often than you would like as a 4th or 5th place team in the PAC-12."

    Yeesh... then we'd know how byu fans feel...

    Burton is still unblocked.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:13 a.m.

    Sorry utes....ND considers you to be a Little Sister of the Poor. No rematch for u!

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:22 a.m.

    To bookonwomen

    No, I've not delusional. Take a look at the won/loss records of the teams Utah played and compared to that of those BYU played; i.e. strength of schedule. Also look at the polls during the season and compare how many top 25 or 30 teams BYU played as opposed to Utah.

    Then look at how many games in which the point could be made that the Utes "lucked out" in games they played as opposed to BYU.

    Finally, look at the rivalry game and tell me Utah was not outplayed, again lucking out in the fourth quarter. Utah is extremely fortunate that they came away with a win with the lousy-kick turnaround and the fumble (which was clearly shown to be a bad call).

    In 2008, Utah was arguably the best college team in the land. But in 2010 they were really at best a 7-5 team and maybe 6-6 when analyzing at least three and probably four of their wins.

    Bottom line: Look forward to the majority the Utes' future bowl games being held about half-way between where you I reside; i.e. Las Vegas Nevada.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:24 a.m.

    ute fans have mocked BYU for playing in Vegas for years. Feels pretty sickening to see their team there now eh? Not only that, but getting a Temple or Ohio would look even worse, especially since that means their "power" conference can't even get enough bowl eligible teams. Pretty pathetic.

    As others mentioned, if the utes don't do better than 4th place, Vegas could be a new home.

    What goes around comes around.

  • Chris B's momma Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:26 a.m.

    Vegas...I thought you guys hate Vergas. Remember whatever you do there will stay there because no one really cares anymore!

  • RunningUtes Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:26 a.m.

    you know, last i checked, this was an article about the UTEs. yet, there are more cougar fans posting here then UTEs... funny how Y fans focus more on the UTEs then their own team... also, beating oregon st last year doesnt mean you will next year and beating ND a long time ago doesnt mean you will beat them in 2 years... ND has the same momentum at the end of the year as BYU. Y fans like to change things around just to make themselves look better, soo prideful

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:46 a.m.

    @RunninU...we're just responding to your idiotic rants about BYU. You're the one that said that BYU couldn't beat Ole Miss, GT, Texas etc. If you were so high on the U, you wouldn't have to bring BYU into your post.

    Be happy for a 10 win season and for having scoreboard on the Y this year. Having 6 scoreless quarters in your last two games against BYU is not bringing much to the PacX table...but then there's always Colorado to rip on.

  • OnlyU Draper, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:46 a.m.

    Very simply BYU was 1-5 against bowl teams this year. Utah was 4-2. BYU won one road game against CSU away from home-complete with help from their replay officials. Utah won 5 road games. Bottom line - Utah made the plays when they needed to and scored 17 points in the 4th quarter. They obviously have some holes with a young team - funny Coog fans talk about their youth but Utah has almost the same amount of seniors that the zoobs have. The future is bright...recruiting is strong and will only get better. The challenge to win each week in the PAC12 is huge but of course that desire to play in relevant games week in and week out is coveted by the Yners. Good to be us...not good to be you. TCU is in Boise will be next - not you. You can hope all you want you've always wanted to be included...as of today your still on the outside looking in -were not! Nice 6-6 season. Blame it on the youth, continue to make excuses, and be eternal optimists...we'll just keep playing in and winning big games!

  • CG Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:58 a.m.

    RunningUtes

    "you know, last i checked, this was an article about the UTEs."

    you need to check closer

    "With San Diego State (8-4) ticketed for its hometown Poinsettia Bowl, MAACO Bowl Las Vegas is still considering Utah (10-2), Air Force (8-4) and BYU (6-6)."

    The article is about the possible matchup in the Las Vegas Bowl, which includes the Utes AND the COUGARS!

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:07 p.m.

    Yarrlydarb,

    You did some research but you failed to note the obvious:
    1) Utah did not lose to Air Force, Pitt, and SDSU, just because those games were close. In fact, I would argue that Pitt was lucky to be in that game and thanks to forcing 5 turnovers, AFA should have never even made it a game late.

    2) Utah only lost 1 conference game. Since the Utes and Cougars played in the MWC, they played many of the same teams. Utah went 6-1 against those teams. Add the Cougars (home field in that series doesn't always spell victory for the home team), and the Utes have 7 wins. So, even if they lost to all of the non-con teams BYU played, the worst they would have been was 7-5.

    I echo bookofwomen when I add that no way Utah would have lost to USU and probably not to Washington. Also recall BYU would have had to play SDSU on the road. Utah would have had them at home.

    Bottom Line: Had they switched schedules, the Utes would have likely been 9-3 and BYU 6-6. Big Deal.

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:11 p.m.

    ute4ever | 9:14 a.m.

    What I am suggesting is Utah - BYU in the Vegas Bowl.

    I would have BYU by 14 points.

    What do you think, there babe?
    Satisfied with the one point win?

    I'm looking forward to your response. Tell me the Utes could beat BYU twice...

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:19 p.m.

    @Only U, so what you're saying is that the very corrupt system that you've despised the past 5+years (BCS), is now a strange bedfellow with U. Must feel kind of icky.

    Please stop with the week-in-week-out competion. You sound like the loser president of Ohio State. Outside of Oregon and Stanford, not such a tough bunch of teams if you asked me.

    Cal...please
    ASU...no way
    UW...not without Locker
    Wash State...enuf said
    Colorado...are you kidding?
    Oregon State...not anymore

    You see, when you peel the onion back, the bottom third of the PacX is nothing to brag about and is really no better than UNLV, WYO and CSU.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 12:58 p.m.

    byu fans can speak all they want when it comes to 'what ifs', but when it comes down to it on the field, they can't get it done, and that just eats at that enormous pride they have, which generally is the only thing they have to support their self esteem.

    Lets not take it away from them. Instead let's join them in their ridiculousness.

    If Utah were to rematch against TCU, they would win by 41. If they played Auburn or Oregon in the NC game, they would score 100 points. If the Utes played Alabama, they would repeat with a 31-17 victory. If they rematched against Pitt, they would win 35-7. blah blah blah. Talk is cheap and anyone can do it.

    Winning a game on the field is what the Utes are really about, so all you detractors, enjoy your talk, I'll enjoy an 11 win season.

  • cvguy Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:00 p.m.

    Pavalova

    I love it when BYU fans (or are they Utah haters) bash the PAC-10. Jealous much? I think BYU fans are so jealous of the Utes the last few years they don't know what to do with themselves. Even this year the Cougs can say all they want about refs this and refs that, but simply put: Utah 17 - BYU 16 (that is a big 'ol W for the U)

  • RunningUtes Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:01 p.m.

    PAVALOVA
    there were 4 BYU fan comments before i said anything... so i go back to me saying, why dont you Y fans worry about your own articles instead of crying about the loss to the UTES and ranting on UTE articles...

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:08 p.m.

    Not Vegas! Last year we all heard was that the MAACO Bowl was over-rated and only for losers.

  • RunningUtes Lehi, Utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:16 p.m.

    im sorry pavalova but, the only mwc teams that compare to pac teams are: tcu, utah, san diego, af, and byu. Washington ST is the only pac team that compares to CSU, UNLV, NM, and wyoming.
    now heres the catch... Oregon, Arizona, USC, and Stanford are all better then San Diego, AF, and BYU. if you think otherwise, then you must be dreaming and need to pinch yourself and wake up...

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:50 p.m.

    @RunningU...well, as of today, the only bowl eligble teams from the pac10 are Oregon, Stanford and Arizona.

    For all the toughness that appears to exist on paper in the PacX, the numbers don't lie. No dreaming here, just looking at the SOS, your position doesn't hold water.

    UCLA, WSU, Cal and UW are pretty bad, and then you can and Colorado to the mix, and you are really struggling to find quality wins. Nevada throttled Cal by 3 touchdowns. Just sayin.

  • OnlyU Draper, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:51 p.m.

    Pavalova:

    Lets take a look since the turn of the century.

    Since 2000.

    Overall Record
    Utah 95-40
    BYU 87-50

    Wins Vs. each other
    Utah 6
    BYU 4

    Bowl Games
    Utah 8
    BYU 6

    Bowl wins
    Utah 8
    BYU 3

    Bowl losses
    Utah 0
    BYU 3

    BCS wins (do you know what this means??)
    Utah 2
    BYU 0

    Outright conference titles
    Utah 3
    BYU 3

    .500 or worse seasons
    BYU 6
    Utah 2

    Not to mention that we just closed out a run over our past 47 games going 41-6......

    In BYU's last 11 seasons they have had more losing/.500 seasons then winning seasons......

    Nice try on the comparison...the arrogance kills me.

    Now talk to me about 1984!!

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 1:58 p.m.

    wwookie

    "byu fans can speak all they want when it comes to 'what ifs',"

    Please pot...

    Isn't that what Utah fans have been doing for the past 5 years?

    In fact, didn't a Utah homer for the DN write a entire article last week on how Utah could have been dominant "IF"?

    Harline is still open
    4th-and-18
    George is still running

    No lucky bounces of shanked punts, no tipped passes that should have been offensive pass interference, no gift fumbles; just superior execution.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 2:08 p.m.

    OnlyU

    Nice try at cherry picking, but here's one stat Utah fans simply can't explain:

    During the Ute's best decade EVER, which included 3 of BYU worst seasons in the last 50 years, BYU still finished in the Top 25 more than Utah

    BYU 5 (including 4 in the last four years)
    Utah 4 (with only 2 in the last four years)

  • JustintimeY Boise, Id
    Nov. 30, 2010 2:14 p.m.

    Only U here are some things you left out
    AP/Coaches Final Top 20 and Top 25 rankings

    1964 Utah UR/14
    1977 BYU 20/16
    1979 BYU 13/12
    1980 BYU 12/11
    1981 BYU 13/11
    1983 BYU 7/7
    1984 BYU 1/1 National Champions
    1985 BYU 16/17
    1989 BYU 22/18
    1990 BYU 22/17
    1991 BYU 23/23
    1994 BYU 18/10, Utah 10/8
    1996 BYU 5/5
    2001 BYU 25/24
    2003 Utah 21/21
    2004 Utah 4/5
    2006 BYU 16/15
    2007 BYU 14/15
    2008 BYU 25/21, Utah 2/4
    2009 BYU 12/12, Utah 18/18

  • JustintimeY Boise, Id
    Nov. 30, 2010 2:15 p.m.

    1. Natioal title
    2...Over 1,000 All-Americans-all sports
    3...1 Heisman Trophy,
    4...2 Outland trophies
    5...4 Davey O'Briens
    6...7 Sammy Baugh's
    7...1 Doak Walker Award
    8...7 College Hall of Famers
    9...2 NFL MVP's
    10..2 Super Bowl winning QB's (Sorry Alex Smith)
    11.. A Super Bowl MVP
    Your resume dosen't look as good now does it?

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 30, 2010 3:16 p.m.

    BYU Utah Rematch....

    Vegas Bowl would have to do something unprecidented, but to let BYU-Utah finish their unfinished business... would be the Utes worst nightmare.

    Send them to the PAC with a good win, or a good thrashing. Either way, it would be good for the LV Bowl, and the Utes.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 3:45 p.m.

    re: SportsFan | 11:08 a.m. Nov. 30, 2010

    "In fact, a possible rematch with ND is more than likely the reason the Las Vegas Bowl is waiting until the opponent is decided before they select the MWC team.

    The Las Vegas Bowl doesn't want a rematch of Utah/ND or BYU/Washington."

    How about this for the MWC?

    Utah v Oregon St or UW (whichever is eligible) in the LV Bowl, TCU/Wisconsin in the Rose, Sd St/Navy in the Poinsettia, AF/Notre Dame in the Armed Forces Bowl, BYU/Tulsa in the NM Bowl

  • theDailyObserver Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 4:06 p.m.

    JustintimeY,

    Really? Using stats from over 40 years ago-that seems rather pathetic. But then again, you are a whY fan.

    For all the haters that say Boise would crush Utah in LV, it seems like this topic has come up before...let's see...oh right, like two years ago when everyone said the big, bad team in crimson from Tuscaloosa would demolish the 'sisters of the poor.' No need in pointing out the result of that game. I say bring on the Bronco! (And I don't mean the arrogant, self-righteous little man down south).

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 5:45 p.m.

    theDailyObserver

    This isn't the 2008 Utah team that squeaked past TCU because of two missed FGs and soundly beat BYU; this is the Utah team that got CRUSHED by TCU and barely squeaked by a rebuilding BYU team starting a true freshman at QB.

    Boise State would do to Utah in the Las Vegas Bowl what TCU did to Utah in RES.

    The Utes, with Wynn at QB, would be lucky to stay within 30 points of the Broncos.

    btw, FOUR of BYU's Top 25 finishes came in the last FOUR years. That's only one less Top 25 finish than Utah has had in its ENTIRE HISTORY! (both polls)

    The reason Utah fans stress so much about stats from the 90's or 80's or 70's is because Utah has virtually NO HISTORY before the 2000's (in football).

    Of course if you bring up basketball, 1998 is like yesterday for the Utes.

    Funny how that works.

  • mr. j Cottonwood Hts., Ut
    Nov. 30, 2010 5:55 p.m.

    It's unlikely but i say bring on the cougs. in vegas. Utah's qb played AWFUL!!!!!!!! If he plays average we win 31 to 16. and he's capable of playing GREAT when he's not being woossy and scared. give him a month to figure it out. I think we'll get AT LEAST a mediocre performance. so utes win by at least over a touchdown.

  • PAC12South Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 6:48 p.m.

    @Swoop... don't forget 2010, the Utes are ranked and will be when the crush their bowl opponent. BTW AP/coaches poll rankings are meaningless! What good is it to be ranked and only get to play in the lowly Vegas bowl? The best team under Bronco went 11-2. Guess what the Utes this year will go 11-2. 11-2 for BYU is amazing and they best they can do. 11-2 for Utah is disappointing, because we know what it is like to go undefeated and play in a BCS game. BYU won't be getting to the BCS as an independent. So enjoy the New Mexico bowl. It might be the last time BYU goes bowling for awhile.

    @JustintimeY... keep pumping all of your historical stats, living in the past is easier than worrying about the future. In the past BYU won some awards and a bogus national championship. In the future BYU will play and lose to Texas, Oregon State, Ole Miss, Hawaii and Utah. Luckily they will get wins against Idaho, New Mexico State, San Jose State LA Tech.

  • theDailyObserver Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 7:15 p.m.

    SportsFan,

    Youre right the Utes this year were not the undefeated BCS team of 2008-something your poogers will never accomplish, btw. My point was that Utah constantly gets disregarded when they play a supposedly superior team in bowl games. Utah is only two away from tying the all time consecutive bowl win record. So wouldnt you think by now pundits and haters would stop and think gee, if Utah is given a couple of weeks to prepare for a team, they are able to hang with pretty much anyone. Playing Boise would be no different.

    And I guess its better to have a contemporary football legacy, rather than living on distant, faded memories while your kitties are steeped in mediocrity (no BCS games, 6-6 seasons, independence= no friends). Sorry to say that this will be the trend down south for years to come.

    Oh, and as an added but timeless cliché that is sure to get under your skin, Burton is still blocking!

    P.S. I have never heard any Ute fans that bring up 1998. Nice try though.

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 30, 2010 7:50 p.m.

    Daily Observer...

    Why not push for a BYU -- Utah rematch. Prove your point forever.

    Did Utah really win?

    And Vegas would be a sell-out...

    And the Utes worst nightmare.

    Personally... I give BYU the 14 point spread....

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 30, 2010 8:15 p.m.

    Some predict the MAACO LV Bowl to woo Nevada should they not be able to get Notre Dame.

    Just like to Bowl brokers wouldn't want a ND-Utah rematch, they wouldn't want a Nevada-BYU rematch.

    So Utah vs Nevada in the LV Bowl and AFA vs GA Tech in the Independence bowl arelooking like a distinct possiblities.

    That would put BYU in the New Mexico bowl vs a WAC opponent. If the WAC cannot supply someone, it would likely be someone from the MAC such as Ohio U.

    Oh, and this U fan is realistic. I don't see how we'd compete with Boise. Nevada alone, because of their stellar QB, is enough of a worry.

    What the Utes do really well at in bowl games is play teams with supposedly good running backs but a QB that is errant. Nevada and Boise have good backs, but their QBs are phenomenal. For this reason, a better match-up for the Utes would be GA Tech.

    We know what happened the last times those two teams met in a bowl game...

  • youtes taylorsville, utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:15 p.m.

    If it's Ohio or Temple Utah will win like 56-17/21.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:15 p.m.

    It so good to see Little Brother (A.K.A. BYU fans) on this and every Ute story showing their obsession and jealousy with the team that beat them again (it is now a 21 game lead head to head for Utah). What is so funny to me as that you BYU fans really think you have room to boast given that your team is now not in any conference , let alone an AQ one, and hasn't done anything in a real bowl game since 1996 (and even that was a second tier Cotton Bowl). Go ahead; keep making yourselves look foolish (you do it so well).

  • Classless Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:23 p.m.

    @SportsFan,

    Utah has virtually NO HISTORY before the 2000's (in football).

    And yet we have beat BYU 20 more games in the series... how does that play into your supposed Utah has no history?

    Another note, tell me any stat that isn't media influenced that BYU can boast over Utah...

    Things Utah boasts...
    More wins, better winning %, SCOREBOARD, more Conference Championships, Undefeated Seasons,
    Bowl Victories, and wins over ranked teams.

    Well... what non-media sponsored stat can you provide? NC? nope, that was media voted.
    awards, also media voted.
    4 years in a row of 10+ wins? is that it? well... still doesn't top all the things that I've listed.

    So, you are media darlings. Go be happy that you actually qualified for a bowl and leave here from the presence of the superior Utes with your tail between your legs because you will never top the Utes. Thanks for playing.

    Go Utes!!!

  • cougar76 Provo, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 9:58 p.m.

    Las Vegas officials may want a team that has won its way to the game, travels well and would provide a great matchup for sponsors, fans and TV land...but they are going to get Utah. The newts limped through the last five games aided by a lot of luck and travel well if the wheels don't fall off the bus. But, since their fans still see NC's in their future it should a great matchup.

  • cougar76 Provo, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:02 p.m.

    bookonwomen is absolutely right. So when are they delivering your NC trophy?

  • theDailyObserver Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 30, 2010 10:38 p.m.

    ute chute,
    I would love a Utah-tds rematch in the Vegas Bowl. Although it would never happen-6-6 for bywho, remember? Youre right it would be a guarantee to not have an empty seat in the house for both teams-versus what is actually going to happen with a packed Sam Boyd Stadium to watch the Utes, and a barely half full stadium to see the hapless felines in NM.
    Uhh, and last time I checked, Utah really won. A 17-16 final on the scoreboard favoring the Utes doesnt lie friend.
    14 point spread favoring the tds? Ha! You must not know a lot about this rivalry, so Ill let you in on a little statistic. 12 out of the last 14 meetings between the Utes and zoobs have been decided by a touchdown or less, making this rivalry more competitive on the field than any other in college football for more than a decade. As for the two games that werent close? You guessed it, the BCS busting years in which the Utes steamrolled the cats.
    Too bad you wont know what rooting for a BCS caliber team feels like.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:02 p.m.

    Classless Ute Fan

    "tell me any stat that isn't media influenced that BYU can boast over Utah..."

    An absolutely silly premise. Since major college football has no playoff, EVERY meaningful accomplisment is media influenced... national championships, Heisman trophies, College Football Hall of Fame, final rankings, etc.

    Tell me, how do you beat a ranked team, if the ranking isn't media influenced?

    Give me one significant thing Utah accomplished on a national scale prior to 2004.

    Just like the first 8 games of this season, a mediocre Utah team piled up a whole bunch of meaningless wins against even more mediocre teams, including BYU, from 1922 to 1962.

    Then the Utes and Cougars joined a legitimate conference.

    Since 1962:

    Conference Championships
    BYU 23
    Utah 6

    Top 25 Rankings
    BYU 17
    Utah 5 (both polls)

    Head-to-head
    BYU 29
    Utah 20

    College Football Hall of Fame

    BYU
    Gifford Nielsen (QB), 1994
    Marc Wilson (QB), 1996
    Jim McMahon (QB), 1999
    Steve Young (QB), 2001
    LaVell Edwards (Head Coach), 2004
    Gordon Hudson (Tight End), 2009
    Larry Carr (Middle Linebacker), 2010

    Utah
    Ike Armstrong (Head Coach), 1957

    Overall Record
    BYU 383-202-4
    Utah 305-249-4

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:16 p.m.

    "Too bad you wont know what rooting for a BCS caliber team feels like."

    Until the Utes actually play in a BCS bowl as a member of a BCS conference, they'll be no better than the Dukes and Baylors of the BCS world.

    Also rans in a power conference (see Arizona).

    Too bad that Utes will never know what rooting for a National Champion feels like. Or a Heisman Trophy winner. The creme-de-la-creme of major college football.

    As we all know, Utah's best was only 2nd best...

    in one poll.

    As much as Utah fans would like to pretend that it's more than it really is, winning a BCS game is not remotely close to winning a national championship.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2010 11:35 p.m.

    Classless Ute Fan

    "tell me any stat that isn't media influenced that BYU can boast over Utah..."

    10+ win seasons
    BYU 15
    Utah 6

    *Bowl Games Played In
    BYU 28
    Utah 15

    *unlike today, when there are 35 bowls and every team with a break-even record plays in a bowl, just playing in a bowl used to be a significant accomplishment

    Bowl Games Played In prior to the proliferation of bowls (there were never more than 19 bowls prior to 1990)

    BYU 14
    Utah 2

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Dec. 1, 2010 2:39 p.m.

    re: TrueBlue | 11:35 p.m. Nov. 30, 2010

    "*unlike today, when there are 35 bowls and every team with a break-even record plays in a bowl"

    Like the 2010 war kittens for example?