Nothing to be ashamed off. The Cougars out played the utes,--just a victum of
a freaky fourth quarter.
I am really proud of the team, coaches and school. We have fine students
representing us, we truely have the best-of-the-best. I am putting the call out
again for all Cougar fans to join the Cougar Club...let's support our students.
I thought the Cougars did a great job Saturday. I agree with worf, the 4th
quarter was pretty strange, with one very bad call by the refs. And maybe they
should have tried for a field goal earlier in the game instead of play action so
close to the goal line. That 3 points would have made the difference. But there
are always would/coulda/shoulda things to look back at and learn from. The Utes
did a great job, too. It was a very exciting game. And I've been amazed at the
turnaround that has occurred in the defense. Bronco has done a great job with
that, and it has helped the offense play better, too. Great job, Bronco!
worf: dittos. No Cougar fan should count that game as a loss. Unofficially, it
was a well-earned win for BYU, and we should be proud of that.
It's a good year to be a Cougar fan. We knew it was going to be a tough year. If
this team continues to improve as it did in the second half of the year we will
enjoy a very good 2011 and beyond.There is no doubt Bronco and
company have the team on firm footings.If the men in red don't make
some dramatic adjustments they will be embarrassed ridiculously as they quickly
sink to the bottom of the PAC 12 sea.With the Utes good start this
year I thought they might place themselves in the top half of the PAC 12. Ute
fans should be very nervous about their team being in the lower half of the
bottom in the PAC 12 next year.All of this should make for a very
interesting game between the Cougars and Utes in 2011.GO COUGARS!
BYU did a great job of regrouping after an uncharacteristically bad start to
their season. It should set them up for success in their bowl game and for next
season.Heaps played very well on Saturday. He clearly outplayed
both of Utah's more experienced quarterbacks.Sometimes the breaks go
your way, and sometimes they don't. It looked convincing to me that Bradley was
down before the ball came loose, but I guess the officials didn't think there
was conclusive evidence.Good luck in your bowl game, Cougars.
Definitely too many bowl games when a 6 and 6 team from a weak conference gets
Both teams played strong and hard and the win could easily have gone the other
way. Several different plays at several times during the game could have swayed
the game. Often luck does play a big part in the outcome of the game and this
time Utah was very very lucky to have gotten a finger or two on the ball for the
block. Congrats to both teams
"Happy with our progress""Unoffically we should not
count the game as a loss""Great job Bronco"Get real People. It has been a terible season and if Brono was with any other
team he would be gone. They keep score in football to see who wins or loses.
For BYU it was a bad year. It does not matter if they have great students
Improvement is relative. I wind up thinking about what could have been. What
if Heaps had been the starting QB at least since the summer? What if we had an
offensive coordinator that could develop some creativity and a game plan geared
to the opponent? What if we had not lost Harvey Unga? What if these changes
were made long before the start of the season? To compete in the new playing
field of Independance, changes on the offensive side of the ball have to be
made. Knowing BYU, I fear that we are doomed for years of status quo because of
our unwillingness to make changes.
Wow, dookie5, I can't wait to hear you calling for Whittingham's head after next
season. Some people don't really "get" sports.It's not a
simple matter of looking at a W/L record. Any AD or school prez looks at the
direction of a program to properly assess the coaching staff's performance. Due
to personnel loss, BYU having a down year was not a huge shock, even though it
was worse than most expected throug the first half of the season.The
question is, were things looking up by the end of the year? Even the most myopic
Y hater would have to concede the program got stronger towards the end of '10
and will start next year with a bunch of solid, experienced sophomores and
juniors to anchor it for the next 2-3 years.Will Heaps be the alpha
dog he was supposed to be? I have no idea, but hopefully Bronco and Anae will
remove the floaties and throw him in the deep end next year. Y fans have every
reason for optimism. This is how you rebuild. It's not painless.
I guess I look at great teams like Florida this year who have gone 7-5 and I
don't have a huge problem with how the Cougars did.
Yes the players have come a long way because they really do have talent. But
their biggest limitation is in their coaching...especially the offensive
coordinator. This is not the right Offensive coach for this team. He just
doesn't have the know how or enough play material to pick apart defenses that
are more dynamic than those ran by much inferior teams. If Mendenhall is
satisfied with success at these levels then he probably should resign as a head
coach and go find a Defensive Coordinator position somewhere else. He's
extremely talented as a defensive coordinator. But he was hired as a head
coach. The administration picked his offensive coordinator. That is part of the
problem that needs to be rectified. It was extremely poor judgement to
take a gamble as early as Anae did in saturdays game. The opportunity to put up
3 points was right there which would have put us ahead by 9 forcing the U to
have to score two touchdowns or convert on one extra point and a fieldgoal to go
ahead. Going 4th and inches is something you do when you are usually
behind and it's an obvious situation of need
FL, TX and PSU have all struggled with freshman QBs. In the case of
TX they tried to use a QB with a different style than the rest of the team.
Having a team built for the spread but running a traditional I formation QB
killed them. Even the defense dorked.Hopefully the BYU coaches noted
that you can't have Nelson running a pocket passing team. He may be a great
competitor but his style does not fit the rest of the team or all the plays
designed for it. BYU's D has made great strides. They will get
better, especially with decent recruiting. 6 more weeks of practice
should help the offense, especially the TEs and WRs. I consider the O to be at
about 65% of potential. The play calling, innovation and coaching
still needs some adjustment. Let's see how the bowl performance goes. OU took their pocket passing I formation play book and added a few pistol and
diamond formation plays and helped themselves. This BYU team may not
be able to run the whole play book right now but are Bronco and Anae capable of
some much needed innovation on offense?
Texas and Mississippi will be looking for someone to tae their frustrations out
on next year. Mack Brown is a big time coach and this is not the late 1980s.
The talent level at both Texas and Miss are significantly better than at BYU.Neither BYU or Utah should put a glorious 2011 in the bank just yet.
As a staunch Ute fan, I have to concede that the Cougars have made a lot of
improvements. I personally don't think they've earned the right to a bowl game,
but then I think there are too many bowl games anyway...but I digress. Clearly
the Utes should not have been awarded the fumble, but there were other calls
that went BYU's way that aided their success too. For instance the call that
Kariya had control of that ball before he went out of bounds when he clearly
didn't, and the call against Brian Blechen for leading with his head when the
replay showed he had his arm out in front of him, just to name a few. In any
given game there will be calls that should have been made that weren't, and vice
versa. But that's sports, and regardless of those calls, or lack thereof, it's
up to the teams to capitalize or respond. Yes the Utes were given the ball, but
BYU didn't do their job to stop them, just like they didn't stop Brandon Burton
from blocking their field goal.
I'd slightly change the title. The Cougs should NOT be happy with the end
result, but they should absolutely be happy with their progress. To become bowl
eligible after their start is quite the accomplishment and something to be very
proud off and build off of for next year. For Utah? Better shore up a stronger
offense and defense to play with the big boys of the Pac 12. I want Utah to do
well in the Pac 12 (and I'm a USC alumn), but they certainly have not finished
the season on a strong note. They go into the bowl limping, if you ask me.
Congrats to the Cougs for a great ending of the season. This team showed a lot
of class and I enjoyed Jake Heaps' comments about the fans after the game. I
look forward to cheering for the Utes and Cougars next year.
I am proud to be a cougar fan! Started off bad but made a good turn around.
Bronco congrats to your success! Utah was not the better team even though the
score showed that they were.
I think the coaches are just fine. Anae took a risk going for it on 4th down
out of the "I" formation. Gutsy call and I think it would work most
of the time. The receiver should have pulled that in and then Anae looks like a
hero.It is too bad that Heaps had to split time but that is in
hindsight. Look at the Utes, they went to a 2 quarterback system in game 11.
BYU is on the rise. Young talent is obviously there and they are putting it
together on the field.Go Cougs!
The thing about that 4th down call is if he had caught the ball, he'd be the
hero of the game and no one would be criticizing at all. The play was actually
a good call, especially with how well BYU's defense was shutting down the Utes.
Hindsight says he should have gone for it, but the whole game would have been
different because the Utes offense would have changed to try to make up the
difference in score. Had the kicker missed the field goal attempt, everyone
would be saying they should have gone for it. Go figure. It was the right
call, it just didn't materialize.Despite Madden's opinion, the
Cougars played really well once Bronco took over as Defensive Coordinator. You
don't fire your coach when he actually improves the team. The record shows 6-6,
but BYU's team did great once they ironed out a lot of the mistakes, and all the
credit goes to Bronco for that. With the exception of a few lucky plays, BYU
shut down Utah on Saturday, which far exceeded expectations beginning of the
season.It's always good to be a Cougar fan!!
duke5Considering Bronco's overall career record and the way he has
turned this team around and finished strong this rebuilding season, your comment
seems myopic. I have full confidence that Bronco will continue to teach and
improve this team. I, for one, am excited for the future.
Guess the Y's team is playing harder, with more confidence and effort. Still
being happy about a team that has lost to every average or above opponent this
year is not encouraging. And, watching an absolute meltdown in the team's and
the coach's composure Saturday during the fiasco of poor special teams play and
the failure of a defensive player to hold on to a turnover during the 4th
quarter does not seem to me to indicate they are much better now than earlier in
the season. If they are happy, then they must not understand how much
improvement they still need to be a quality program. Perhaps, now that they are
not competitors, the Y could go to TCU and find out how to build a really good
program that takes second choice recruits that have been passed over by Texas
and A&M, and makes them into the best team in the country.
How in the world a coach could be happy after losing a game he had won is beyond
me. BYU had the Utah game won.. several times.. only to perform with complete
lack of dicipline in the last qtr and give the game away. A better response from
Bronco might have been to say he was very disapointed in his teams lack of
dicipline and execution in losing a game that BYU had clearly won. This loss was
all coaching... or the lack thereof. Special teams players not knowing to get
out of the way of a scrubed punt or allowing a defensive player to come
untouched to block a game winning FG or a defensive back not knowing to cover an
interception with both arms knowing full well the other teams only chance was to
slap the ball away. Perhaps 5 steps forward and 5 steps backwards.
Anae is NOT the problem at BYU .Anae has had a pretty darn good record setting
offense for most the Beck years and all of the Hall years and I don't read to
many fans talking about the nationally ranked offense during that time. The
coach was Robert Anae and it was his changes that brought BYU back from
offensive death (due to Gary Crowton).
To Sloppy J,I am a BYU graduate and have always supported them. I
have never supported the U. Your statements sound like a typical BYU PR guy.
Facts are facts. The Y is terrible and should be embarrassed to be considered
for a bowl appearance. Its time to fes up to the facts. Bronco is bad, bad,
Congrats to BYU, the team really turned the season around--everything except
their offensive play calling. If that had been better, BYU would have won!
Bronco, please get some fresh blood into that slot.
Those teams that lost multi-year starters at QB this year to the NFL (Tebow at
Florida, McCoy at Texas, and Canfield at Oregon State) all took a step back this
year with records of 7-5, 5-7, and 5-6 respectively....BYU's 6-6 is not bad
considering, and it goes to show how valuable a position QB is when you have
multi-year starters like Dalton at TCU and Moore at BSU...
@ duke511-211-210-311-2rebuilding year: 6-6But even in a rebuilding year, he saw the direction the team was heading
(against some decent team BTW) and made some gutsy adjustments, rolled up his
sleeves and made rapid improvements in both the intensity and execution level of
the team. Again, to fire him would be completely short-sighted and foolish.
I don't know, dookie . . I'm reading your posts and not seeing many
"facts." "The Y is terrible" and "Bronco is bad, bad,
bad" sound like opinions to me.Review your beloved
"facts" again . . by any statistical measure, the Y improved over the
course of the season. Record, offensive stats, defensive stats. Them's facts.
You know; black and white stuff. Fact: they got a lot of young players
significant PT. How is pointing that out PR?A 6-6 record is,
overall, a disappointment. But to suggest Bronco be fired considering his
overall record and the way the team responded over the last few weeks is
baffling. Is it "fire the coach!" with you after every loss? Pure
nonsense.I'd love to hear what "facts" you're relying on
for your assessment. So far, I see zip.
18 more days of practice for this young team will be very beneficial to kicking
off 2011. I'm excited to see how these young kids develop. I think we will see
some real studs develop at WR, TE and Jake will look like a senior by the time
September rolls around. Our LBs will be excellent especially with a healthy
Pendleton. Our dbacks are probably the biggest question mark going into 2011.
Improvement? Quit fooling yourselves.BYU played an error free first
game against Washington. Utah was lucky to escape an error-plagued game against
Pitt.BYU then lost the next 4 of its next 5, 3 against Top 25 teams,
then rattled off 4 wins against bad teams.The record improved a LOT
more than the team did, because of the competition -- and the team shouldn't
have had to improve as much as it did:PICK A QB and give him the
reps in the preseason. If a freshman is equal to a JR. who has a year of D-1
starting experience, play the Freshman. No Brainer, blown call.If a
team blocks a kick because they spotted a weakness on film, that is the COACHES
fault.Not kicking the field goal was a dumb decision, which let his
players down. I hope Bronco acknowledged that.Not knowing what play
they were going to run on 4th down is incompetence. Bronco's total abdication
of responsibility for the offensive play calling isn't "delegation" as
he likes to think, it is incompetence. I GUARANTEE LaVell would've known what
play was going to be called in that situation.
I am very pleased with the progress this team made over the season.
Conratluations COugars on a strong rebound from a bad start. I think good things
are on the horizon.
I guess it just depends on how you choose to look at it, patriot. The offense
has some problems actually finishing drives down in the red zone, but so what.
This game proved that Utah is not as good as they hyped themselves up to be,
that BYU is better than everyone gave them credit for, that BYU's defense has
vastly improved and is actually really strong under Mendenhall. As soon as
BYU's offense comprised of mostly freshmen and sophomores comes up to speed,
it's going to be a fun combo to watch. Yeah, BYU lost the game due to a blocked
field goal, but it was a great game and nothing to hang our heads about. I
enjoyed watching the BYU defense stomp on Utah as much as I would have enjoyed
the win. Our team did great! No reason to yell at them for all their mistakes.
That doesn't help anybody.Looking forward to next year's match with
BYU returning most everyone and improving the offense and Utah losing 18 players
including their power running game and having to retrain the offense with a
quarterback who keeps throwing to the blue jerseys.
@SportzFanLaVell better have known what play would be called after
roughly 30 years doing the same thing each year... Not quite an equal
as a huge U fan i guess i'm obligated to sling some mud at the Y (and i did my
fair share of that earlier in the year), but i've been real impressed with how
bronco was able to turn things around down the back end of the year. you can
compare victories and teams and whatever, but the fact is a 2-5 byu team with
their backs against the wall found some identity on offense, found their killer
instinct on defense, and went out and dominated the last half of their schedule
to get bowl eligible. i'll continue to defend that my utes deserved that game
as much as the cougars did, but i won't deny that byu didn't deserve it either.
bronco is the right guy for the Y and he'll have the program a consistent bcs
contender as an independent.obviously the U will have some growing
pains in the pac 12 but that should be expected. they got a wake up call
against tcu and nd, but better now than next year. looking forward to 2011!
Burton is still unblocked......Go utes
@patriot:I normally enjoy reading your comments, but your asessment of
Anae is way off. Anae is a big part of the problem. In close games where BYU
has the lead, he employs the "play not to lose" offense which always
allows the other team to creep back into the game. See BYU vs Utah the last two
years. The games were won/lost in the fourth quarters.SDSU game was
comfortably in hand, yet, the final score ended up being a close game. Same
with WYO. The offense lacks creativity, and the killer instinct to put away the
opponent when the opportunity is there. Not all Anae's fault, but
he does bear most of the blame in my book.
How do you justify going for it on 4th down when you are only ahead by 6 and the
game is intense and defensively dominated. That is like giving up nearly free
points. If you were ahead by more than 1 score, good call, but you could have
gone from up only 6 to up 9.Major stupid, risky call that had little
payback. Bronco/Anae should have nightmares about that blunder.
As a BYU fan, I was disappointed in the outcome, but I think that BYU has a
bright future. Jake Heaps is very impressive. I really appreciate fans on both
sides giving credit to the other team--very classy. I will add my name to that
group in giving credit to the Utes who made the big play that decided the
If i were Jake Heaps knowing next year i had that idiot Anae calling the plays i
would want to tranfer. After all the progress he has made this year Anae still
did not trust him saturday. Bronco make this a clean sweep and fire him. His
play calling was absurd to say the least. He was clearly without question the
best quarterback Saturday. You turn him loose even with our turnovers we win the
game, you Anae by yourself prevented us from winning. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
This BYU team has shown a lot of potential for next year. Ole Miss, Texas, Utah
and Oregon State are all very beatable. The rest of their schedule (UCF and WAC
bottom-feeders) are all very, very beatable. BYU could very well have an
outstanding year in 2011. Considering where they started with this group of
freshmen, I'd say BYU's coaching staff has done a great job, and I have no doubt
they will be back to 10 and 11 win seasons very soon.
Teams win, teams lose, sometimes the coaching decisions have an affect both
ways. Overall it was a poorly played game and their were some coaching mistakes.
Looked like neither team wanted to win during parts of the game. It is a little
aggrivating that the Y lost after outplaying the Utes in most areas of the game.
Not significantly in all areas but enough overall that they should have won by
at least a touchdown. I would be more upset about the "fumble" call
had the Y not had a similar call help them in the SDSU game. I am happy the Y
gets to play again this year and I am really looking forward to next year when
most of their starters and many who contributed significantly will be back and
will be better. I am not thinking that Utah is going to have an easy time next
year with some key contributors graduating this year. Hope they can find a good
JC QB or that Wynn can elevate his game.
@patriot"Anae has had a pretty darn good record setting offense for
most the Beck years and all of the Hall years"What records has
Anae's offenses set? Anae has been steady and consistent but his problems with
Utah and TCU are that he's too predictable and they have him figured out. He's good enough if you are happy with winning 3 out of 5 Las Vegas
Bowls against middle of the pack Pac 10 schools. He's good enough against lousy
defenses like UNLV, New Mexico and Wyoming but his record against mediocre BCS
schools has been very lackluster. I'd like to see someone in the OC position who
can show up in the big games, someone who will coach to win the big games, not
coach in fear of losing them.
@Sloppy JThose same losers were calling for Kwhitt to get fired
after their disappointing 2007 campaign. Good thing there are a lot smarter
people than their fans running the Yewt Athletic Dept.
Bronco has repeatedly stated his support for Coach Anae, so I support Coach
Mendenhall. But, Please Coach, Get some fresh thinking into the offense either
thru additions in the staff or the OC attending some convention seminars or
something.And it will be interesting to see who and how Coach
chooses for the Defensive Co. I'm not sure what is the best way to go there. But
if the D stays at it's current level with Bronco running it, and the offense
improves along with it's play calling, I look forward to next season. If nothing
is done to address the sputtering, dropped catches, and questionable play
calling then I will not be looking so forward to next season.At
least I will be able to actually see the games though! Go Cougs
Bronco should choose an administrator to handle the opperations and coach the D
himself. Seems to work well.
Here is a question that I would like to have answered by Anai:How is
it that our leading rusher, receiver, touchdown scorer, JJ, had only 8 touches
in the game. 7 carries and 1 pass? What kind of a game plan is that? (answer:
a losing one!)Absolutely terrible game called by Mr. Anai.After the bye week I had hope that there was a change in how the offense was
being called. We now know that it just isn't so.This loss falls
directly on his head.The time for a change is right now!
It it tough to say how good or bad BYU or Utah were this year with how BAD the
MWC is. The game Saturday didn't do a whole lot to prove that either team is
good either. New Mexico, CSU and UNLV are three lousy football teams - just
awful. Both Utah and BYU were down this year (in the opinion of a non-hater Ute
fan for what it is worth). The USU loss is the real head scratcher for me. How
did that happen with that talent level? Heaps made a believer out of me on
Saturday with his composure and man that kid has some zip on the ball. BYU will
be just fine. They need a few receivers that can hold onto the ball and a center
that can move his feet and understand college defenses, but other than that next
year they will have marked improvement again. Congrats on a good turnaround. Of
course, I will have to deny that I said any of this or I may lose my Crimson
I would just like to say that I find it hilarious that they titled the article:
"Cougs Happy about Progress" and then they paired it with a picture of
Bronco, clearly annoyed.
I am a proud Cougar fan right now. This team could have folded after being 1-4,
but they did not. They showed what they are made of and that quitting was not
in their DNA. No excuses for the UU game. You get the bad calls once
in a while. Evens out the SDSU game, but does not make the Aztecs feel better.
BYU had other chances to win on Saturday. congrats to the Utes.
I second the point made By Fresnogirl.
BYU has success in the past and this year INSPITE of Anae, NOT because
of Anae,All season ther just to much questionalbe pay calling,, a
lot very bad run plays,heAnane never has aa tightened prepared to
replace PItta and George,couldn't make up his mind who the quatter
back should be,never recruits JCs to fill gaps and holes due to
missions and graduations or lack iof recruiting foresight, making
his offense too dependent on freshman, And in just
last game against the Utes, there were many questionable calls,too
mnay ineffectual run plays and questionable run plays, did NOT use
the pass much against a team that was weak in defensive backs,
did kick fielfd gaol on a fourth down,m din go two on firsttouchdown to make
it 14-0 instead 13-0, that one pint cost them an overtime,to
many qustionable calls, too conservative play calling, and just playng not lose
rather than to win.Ane must go, he's not very good,by
the way Beck and Hall succeeded INSPITE of him, they have never had that
promised high power offense under him, how many_times havethey
scored over 60 or 70?
People think the BYU/Utah series will die down? It won't. If anything, it will
intensify because us BYU fans are bent Utah got the Pac-12 invite and Utah fans
are going to be bent that BYU will have more exposure. Did anyone really care
about 'conference' games?? Really?!? The last thing I am thinking about as a BYU
fan against Utah is the hope of winning a conference game. My hope is BYU will
win and Utah will suffer a painful loss. Harline being open, George still
running, 'Magic Happens,' and Hall's rampage are all forever thorns to the Ute
faithful. Just so happens we inherited 'the block' this year. Great rivalry. It
will live on. Once BYU won a national title in 1984, few Cougar fans have truly
cheered a conference championship since then. Same for Utah. Once they tasted
the BCS, I don't think a conference championship really meant anything to them
after that. BYU has been No. 1 nationally and Utah has been No. 2 ... which is
fitting. In Utah, most people view BYU No. 1 in and the Utes No. 2. After all,
BYU is THE University of Utah.
Ref: Arynen...Your comment about the decision to go on 4th and inches
early in the 3rd quarter was way off base...It was not the right call...even if
the kicker had missed the fieldgoal. Kicking the fieldgoal was the higher
probability call becasue it was well in the kicker's range. It would have put
us ahead 9-0. The call to go with 4th and inches was purely a gamble that
wasn't needed because we had the lead and control of the game. It was way too
early in the game and it's a typical type of Anae call at the wrong time under
the wrong circustances. Because the fieldgoal is the higher probability
everytime in that type of situation a successful conversion would have continued
the BYU domination/momentum by forcing the U into having a two score
disadvantage. Instead we wound up worse off than Anae's other biggest blunder
of trying to run the ball out of a deep hole inside our own 5 yd line instead of
just taking a knee against UCLA and letting the last 7 seconds in the half tick
off. Anae not Bronco needs to go.
Here's why I don't understand the lack of faith that the coaches put on
Heaps:BYU placed tons of faith in a complete unknown--Bronco.BYU placed tons of faith in a complete unknown--Anae.Neither
one could place much faith in a "known"--HEAPS.This kid
was past amazing, and the coaches have all be said so...Where is the
same faith the institution placed on you--coaches? Anae was not OC at Texas
Tech...That's a big jump...to OC for BYU. Defensive
Coordinator to Head Coach was a HUGE jump for Bronco--and he's done okay--Signed, Uneducated Fan