I remember hearing something about "luck favors the prepared"....As long as the "prepared" are the Utes, I'm good with that.And technically speaking, "luck" is neutral. If you believe in
that kind of thing, the Cougars had luck too. Just not the good kind.
Sorensen is the king of "could have", "would have"...
According to his story earlier this week.I wanna know from
Sorensen....Who really won the game?In your world of
what if's, the scoreboard would show BYU winning by 21 points.So,
either take back your previous whiney excuses story and take the win for the
"greatest team in Utah history"... or curl up and know your favorite
team got lucky, Mr. Sorensen.Looking forward to you covering the
Utes basketball team, sir.
The Utes definitely won on luck because their talent sure didn't factor into
their win. Either Utah is way over-rated or BYU is really, really good. Which do
I agree. Luck and a bad call on a non-fumble by BYU allowed the Utes back into
the game. But it was the poor play-calling by Anae in the last minute that
doomed the Cougars. They were moving down the field with great efficiency and
probably could have scored a TD. Settling for time-killing plays and a long
field goal was hopeful/stupid thinking. The Cougs dominated and have
nothing to be ashamed of. In spite of all the media posturing, the game was very
classy and a lot of sportsmanship was shown.
A clinic in poor football by both sides, but now it will be remembered as one of
the great games because of one blocked kick.Nice way to end the
Seriouly, in the former words of a future all- pro, "the Utes must be
living right". Lucky touchdown catch that was closer to an interception
and the blown call from the booth. Congrats to the Utes, the block
was impressive and they did what they needed to win.
Congrats to both teams. Game was a nail biter to the end. Season is over, now
both teams need to win which ever backwater bowl we both get this year. Good
luck next year in the PAC12 and as an Independent. Maybe the bounce of the
football will favor both of us and bring joy to the State of Utah and the large
Mormon population in other areas. On to basketball. Enjoying the season so far.
Just remember BYU fans2 out of 3 and Scoreboard
At least the Y covered!! Yea Baby!!! Oh, and by the way, that fumble should
have been overturned! I am not saying it lost the game because I don't really
care but any impartial person can see that the man's knee was on the ground when
the ball came out!! come on people!!
I thought BYU was lucky when the horse-collar tackle was not hit with a 15-yard
penalty. I thought BYU was lucky when Utah's Blechen was hit with a 15-yard
penalty for a helmet hit when he was leading with his hands, which the rules
allow. I thought BYU was lucky when the BYU receiver was still bobbling the ball
out of bounds. The announcers thought all these were the wrong call and they all
went against Utah.Oh yeah. The fumble that went against BYU. Well, I
guess given the above we are even.The blocked field goal was NOT
luck - Utah's preparation played into that, having staked out a weakness in
BYU's kick-blocking left side. Add to it the Ute player's 4.3 40 speed and it
was all preparation and skill.Luck balances out and so do officials'
calls, like I just demonstrated. I just think Cougar fans are used to winning
the close games and are having a bit difficulty dealing with it. I can't blame
them - I hated last year's overtime loss, and Collie's 4th and 18.
2000. Luke Staley. Rice-Eccles Stadium. Ring a bell Cougar fans?
In 2000, they didn't have instant re-play which makes bradley's call even more
amazing because they got a chance to review it and blew it a second time!! I do
not think that lost the game however, because all the Y has to do is make the
kick and they win!!
"Luck" belongs to the prepared.I want to congratulate the
TDS for coming in 3rd in the state behind Utah and Utah St. The worst school in
the state. . . 6-6! Way to GO!"Rise and shout the cougars are
3rd . . ."The "Quest" will have to continue.
@Go Utah"The "Quest" will have to continue."I think the quest will always continue, because that is what quality teams
do.Congrats on your teams victory.I hope your fanbase
does learn to class things up.Booing Wynn, having a coach restrain a
player going after the field goal kicker...It just shows that
winning the game does not give you instant class.Rushing the field
after beating a 6-6 team... Makes one wonder if the Utes have ever been there
before.Please, you are a state run university, paid for with my tax
dollars... represent the state well in the PAC. And, no parades this
year.I think we saw the tide turn back this year. Enjoy
it. It might be awhile before you storm the field again.I hope all
your recruits saw your coach restrain the player going after Payne, booing Wynn
and thought "do I want to be part of that program after getting the lucky
bounces to win the game?"Unfortunately Utah will always be
Utah, and their fanbase will always be their fanbase.Good luck in
basketball this year. I know Boylen has high hopes for a CBI berth.
I've watched the replay a dozen times from my DVR, the play call was blown! He
had security of the ball on his knees, it is evident when the U player starts to
rip it out, the ball doesn't slide out loosely, it pops out after the rip. Not
sure how much more red goggled bigutefan can get. LOL! and a 45 yard field goal
is never automatic. even in the NFL. You're argument is a joke!
Ute fans think their not lucky... first fumble surrounded by Y players slides of
bounds. tipped ball into the end-zone, tipped interception, and unbelievable
punt bounce. Those plays could be played 50 times over and it wouldn't have
happened.These plays aren't 15 yard penalties or a six yard catch
"Utes Fan", these are turnovers.U fans should just be
happy that you were lucky and had a home-cooking booth, and stop trying to
depute it. You sound foolish!It was an awesome game, everything a
rivalry should be. BYU was the better team on the field today, but Utah pulled
out the W.
Here's what I'm most happy about. Ute fans will no longer be forced to listen
Blaine Fowler and Todd "Homer" Christensen do Utah games on television
any longer. The game may as well have been telecast on BYU's
station. When the fumble was not reversed, Blaine Fowler let out a loud and
anguished NO!, that can't be. Made me laugh. (I guess he didn't see the San
Diego State game.)The only thing missing to make this a complete byu
homer job was not having Paul James as the guest commentator.
1) "Luck" in sports:Good teams usually have a way to take
advantages of their "luck"--the so-called lucky bounce.Not-so-good teams usually seem to have the ball "bounce" against
their direction. 2) "Luck" had nothing to do with the
extreme effort by Devonte to leap up and caught the TD pass.3)
"Luck" had nothing to do with the block by Brandon Burton. Utah
coaches watches BYU games and spotted the weakness. They prepared/practiced Utes
for it. They called it and moved Burton to the left side. Burton made a dashing
run and blocked it. No luck there, is it?4) Brandon Burton dashed in
un-touched to block the FG. Was it "unluck" by BYU team not to guard
Burton? Or was it BYU coaches' call to concentrate in the middle and left the
corners unguarded?5) "Luck" had nothing to do with the
Utah's stop of BYU's gamble on 4th-and-1 pass earlier in the 4th Q.Finally, luck has had nothing to do with Utah's 11 wins of last 18 games vs
BYU. McBride, Urban, and Kyle have had everything to do with those 17 wins.
What Sorensen really said...BYU used up its luck during Lavell's era in games vs
Utah. And now Utah has had all the luck in beating BYU--11 of last 18 games.Good analysis, Sorensen.
with ute fan for once , no more todd christensen , king of the obvious. how
about stupid playcalling for another reason to lose. not going for fg in first
half and coming away empty,not going for 2 after td. dumb.
Congrats to the Ute Nation on a classic last play victory. BYU has certainly had
their share of heroic last-second wins, but thats what makes this rivalry so
incredible. Unless the wins are shared, there is no rivalry. So while the loss
is tough for Cougar faithful, it helps grow the event, and makes it one of the
best in the nation. Throughout all of it, I try to remember this
maxim..."We win like men, and we lose like men."
It's feels real good to be on the other side of a close Utah-BYU game! I thought
it was impossible for the Utes to beat BYU by one point after seeing three games
where the Utes took a one point lead late only to lose it at the end (1998,
2000, and 2007). Yesterday when BYU drove the ball down late I thought 'here we
go again,' only to have Brandon Burton save the day!Great finish by
the Utes! If luck was involved so be it. It's like a saying I have heard before
"it's better to be lucky than good."
Luck is preparation meeting opportunity.
Faym"I think we saw the tide turn back this year"
What is that, like 5 six or more loss seasons in the past 10 years? What
do you mean the tide is turning anyway, I thought the tide had already turned
with those 4 ten wins seasons in a row? lolOh yeah I forgot, it's
another "reloading" year.Whaaaaaaaaaaah!
great effort in the fourth quarter Utes. As a Ute fan, I will admit that BYU
looked like the better team for 3 quarters. But they came up big when it
mattered the most. Heck of game. I'm proud of these young guys. I thought Heaps
was the best quarterback on the field. He's going to be very good next year and
the next and the next. Looking forward to next season. Wynn needs to get his
confidence back. Hopefully the time off will clear his head. GO UTES!!!
Great play by the kids... congrats to you both. Awful coaching by both. To
Heaps... you have class son. Great comments to read. to Tommy2Shoes with regard
to your comment.. "Maybe the bounce of the football will favor both of us
and bring joy to the State of Utah and the large Mormon population in other
areas". Maybe the bounce of the ball will favor Mormons and Non-mormons
da bob | 2:40 a.m. Nov. 28, 2010 Salt Lake City, UT You mean
like the home cooking BYU did in there replay booth against SDSU? That was some
mighty fine cooking that led to an unfair BYU victory over SDSU.
Just another classic game!!! The most lasting impression, for me, was after the
game. No comments from the victorious players about 1) the other team did not
deserve to win 2) by living right on and off the field good things happen 3)
Maqic happens 4) the other school is "classless", and I hate
everything about the other school. No, not this time. This time the winners
Mid-Major Cougars | 8:50 a.m. Nov. 28, 2010 "What Sorensen really
said...BYU used up its luck during Lavell's era in games vs Utah. And now Utah
has had all the luck in beating BYU--11 of last 18 games.Good
analysis, Sorensen."===Where? Because I missed that part.
And, if luck being part of sports is "analysis", any third grader
could provide that analysis.I have no problem with this story.
Luck... It's the nature of the game, and Utah got the bounces, and the
"W".And the blocked kick was not luck, but a hard earned
block that took effort from a talented athelete.It's that previous,
whiney, "what if" story, from the same "journalist".Listen, if the guy wants to write a "blog", or be an
"editorialist", send out a resume and go do it.Personally
I expect more from sports "reporters".
Who am I sir? | 2:23 p.m. Just another classic game!!! The most
lasting impression, for me, was after the game. No comments from the victorious
players about 1) the other team did not deserve to win 2) by living right on and
off the field good things happen 3) Maqic happens 4) the other school is
"classless", and I hate everything about the other school. No, not
this time. This time the winners showed class!! ////I guess
you missed the Ute coach repeatedly having to push the Ute player away /holding
him back from Mitch Payne.Players going after the kicker that just
had his kick blocked is "class"? Booing Wynn at RES
(again) is class?Gee, Utah won the game. Coming here and talking
about a lack of class... is class?Come on... Stop talking class
until Utah fans know what it is.Take the win, put it in your pocket,
and enjoy life.////This goes to prove what I have said
for 50 years. There is only one game a year Utah cares about.Storming the field after beating a 6 win team? Need more proof?
Ute Chute your one of the fans that doens't realize that BYU has the same fans
as the Utes do. Now I will say this Utah players are a little more gung ho than
the BYU players because we do have some thugs on our team. But I love everyone
of them.Finally Burton is still coming
One more thing Ute ChuteWe rushed the field because of the way we
won the game. We didn't do it because we just beat a 6-6 team the fans though we
had lost that game when BYU made it to the thirty then Brandon comes Blocking
and we win.Also we were not as a fanbase so much booing Wynn but we
are mad that he has struggled these last few games and wasn't pulled at Notre
Dame so mostly we were booing Whit. I still love both of them and Wynn and Whit
are the men for the job, but if you didn't notice Wynn started playing better
after he was benched for a few minutes.Last thing2 out of 3
and Burton is still unblocked
CreeperWow, your posts raise questions...You're speaking
on behalf of all Utah fans? You were all boo-ing KWhitt? Do you all want him
fired, or to resign? After watching Cain play, do you maybe realize coaches are
sometimes smarter than fans?///Back to reality.Lack of class...You boo-ed Wynn.Regarding Mitch Payne,
"Immediately dejected, the pain was deepened quickly as he was swarmed by
hundreds of jubilant Utah fans, and even a couple of confrontational Utah
players." Ute coaches were trying to protect him from Utah players (you are
really calling your players "thugs"?... Are you one of the
fans who had his feeling "hurt" by "mean Max Hall" while YOU
call YOUR players thugs?And you rushed the field after beating a 6
win team. Tell me you would have rushed the court after beating Oral
Roberts in a close basketball game (of course we'll never know, because Oral
Roberts beat Boylen's kids at the HC).Strickly because BYU is the
only game Ute Nation cares about.///Thugs?Boo-ing
KWhitt?Maybe you should worry more about what kind of
"fan" YOU are, rather than what kind of fan I am.
I love hearing bitter zoobies try to make themselves feel better. It happens
every single time Utah beats the Y. It's always a bad call or a missed call or a
Utah player's cheating that leads to a Utah win. Never mind that Utah
capitalized on byu's mistakes, and what about Burton's incredible block? All
overshadowed by the belief that a ref missed a call. Funny, I don't
remember hearing any Y fans whine when a similar situation led to a cougar
victory over SDSU! Shoot, if it wasn't for that, the cougs wouldn't even be bowl
eligible!It comes down to this. You win some, you lose some. Suck it
up and be grateful that you even get to play in the post season. Byu has had
more than it's fair share than favorable calls and last minute wins due to
miracle plays. Lick your wounds and look forward to next september.
Or basketball. Whagever makes you feel better.All things said, GO
UTES!!! I'm glad they showed some resolve and never gave up to pull out a win.
@Monsieur le profHave you looked at the final stats? Sure didn't
look like byu "dominated" Utah.It really is quite
entertaining to read all the crying cougar fans share their thoughts on this
one. The only thing that really matters isUtah 17BYU 16GO UTES!
Yes, the Ute players really showed some class after the game bouncing around
Payne and other Y players. The Utes got lucky, nothing more. It was a good
play to block the field goal at the end. The Y's fault for not bumping him.
Good defensive game. This is what happens BYU coaches when we play not to loose
instead of playing to win. Yes Utah got very lucky but we had four dropped
passes that should have been caught and all at important moments. Then at the
end we let it all ride on the foot of a PK who has been extremely inconsistent.
We played extemeley conservative against a team THAT RELIES ON THE BIG PLAY AND
MOMENTUM rather than more talent. Because of dropped passed and conservative
play we couldn't capitalize on turnovers our D came up with. You never play not
to loose you have to play to win. however with our stuggles this year I was
happy with the D and Heaps. WR's, TE's, and TB's CATCH THE BALL!!!!! Utes,
although luck does favor the prepared, you don't prepare for a shank punt that
hits the other team. You don't prepare for the Inability for the MTN. camera
crew to not have defenative evidence of Bradley's knee being down! BYU we lost
because of missed catches and conservative play calling.
Max Hall was right, I had never been to a BYU Utah game at Utah before untill
Saturday. I had heard all about it, but never expected it to be that bad. I
can't believe how classless the fans are and the program in general. For
coaches to let their team and proabably initiate their team going to the BYU
sideline before the game to pick fights is ridiculous. To win a game with class
is not enough for them, to celebrate a hard fought win with your own team and
fans is out of the question. Max was and is definitely right.
Question: If the Utes had the BYU field goal block formation figured out before
the game, why did they wait until the end to go for the block? Why did they not
go for a block on the first attempt? It would seem to most that you do not want
the other team to score first (that is a momentum builder). Or why did they not
go for the block on the second FG. This would have destroyed the confidence of
the kicker. You cannot say that they were waiting for the end/last
pay because you would have to know the outcome of the game or know what was
going to happen later on in the game. If a team can destroy a teams confidence
you do it. That is why I believe that the Ute's did not know anything prior
about the FG weakness. It is just a coaching staff trying to make themselves
look better when they know that they did not do well.