I will say it if you won't Mike. The Utes don't want another hard game in
December. A game in Logan against Utah State is most likely a loss. Playing
Pollyana Tech at Huntsman is a much better proposition winwise than the Aggies
in Logan.This is sad because if the Utes won't play in Logan, Ogden
and maybe even Provo, for that matter, they will be stuck with PTech at
Huntsman. You can't expect the other State rivals to play a one sided
series.This is sad because there have been many great games between
the schools over the years. Wonder if attendance would improve at
Huntsman if Utah State, Weber State and BYU rotated years rather than Pollyanna
Tech and her sister schools.Would you not also see great attendance
figures at the other schools? Maybe a pretty good proposition for college
basketball in the Utah.Come on Chris, sign the contract.
Utahs football program can afford to be arrogant and schedule teams that best
suit their pursuit of a national championship; however, Utahs basketball program
cannot. With only one 20 win season and 1 NCAA appearance since the 04 season it
appears that the basketball program may be trying to pad their schedule to get
to that magical 20 win season again. Considering they will be playing the likes
of Stanford, UCLA and other top teams in the PAC -10 is daunting, but dropping
in state home-n-home rivalry games like Utah State and Weber State to play
confidence builders like Grand Canyon and Adams State is ridiculous and not fair
to the fans.
This is sad. Is Utah going to bring in the Mississippi Valley State schools like
BYU did last night? Glad I don't have season tickets to go see that. Would much
rather see a USU Weber or SUSU play in Salt Lake or Provo than these worthless
teams that come to the Huntsman and Marriott Centers.
This really looks more like Utah trying to duck good competition than a problem
with scheduling. I think most Utah fans would rather see a probable loss to a
good USU team in Logan every other year than beat Delta State in the Huntsman
Center every year. You can't get better by beating clearly inferior teams.
Better to be challenged than to be bored.
There are plenty of games in a b-ball season. I would love to see home and home
games with the in-state schools every year. That is much better than watching
Middle Valley State Community High School College come into town.
Funny, if Utah was "ducking" competition, than they would have never
joined the Pac-12. I agree, it is silly and ridiculous if Utah and Logan State
do not play every season, but let's see what happens. My guess is that the
pressure from the alumni will be so great that the series will continue. By the
way... Logan State is not exactly the program they claim to be. Talk about
"ducking" competition and padding states.
Chill out everyone. Utah will still play its instate siblings and remain the
best basketball program in the state.
Noone really cares about Utah State outside of Logan. They will continue to get
worse now that the WAC is going, going, going .. . . gone. USU will have to find
a new conference. May I suggest the West Coast Conference for B-ball and the Big
Sky I-AA in football? Why would a PAC-12 team want to play Utah
State in Logan? I don't see UCLA lining up to play a home and home with Utah
State? Just because Utah comes from a mid-major environment should
it become more benevolent than its new conference mates? I am sure
the Utes will play the Aggies, just not on a regular basis.
Chris says: "It's appropriate to take a step back and assess where we are
with our new Pac-12 schedule next year," Hill said. "It is prudent for
anyone in our position. We don't want to rush into anything."Interpretation: "We have new bosses now. It's not really about the fans,
sports, and rivalries. It's about who signs our 'paycheck' not the fans. So, We
don't want to rush into anything. After all, were low man on the totem poll now.
It's not prudent for anyone in our position to make decisions."
Love this PAC-12 glow of arrogance. But, the reality is the U B-ball team has
been at best mediocre for the entire 21st Century. As for the great PAC-12, it
was one of the worst B-ball leagues in the country last year. So, the question
is why should an established top 30 basketball program like USU continue to
schedule such an inferior bottom 50 program like the U has become?
We need an all-state tournament.Seed 1-8 BYU, Utah, Utah st. Weber
St. SUU, UVU, Dixie St., Westminster. You add Dixie and Westminster to make 8
and you bring in a Cinderella element and it's all of Utah's college teams.The top 4 get a home game at the start of the week. The 4 winners
advance to the semis held on Friday at ESA or the top seeds home floor. The
championship is Saturday with a 3rd/4th place game also.How you
finish determines next years seeds. You could even have a losers bracket for a
5th/6th place so all of the teams are guaranteed a least 2 games and 3 at
most.Lets makes this happen.
Why would the Utes want to play USU? There is much better competition in the
PAC-12.BYU is the next one to scratch from the list.
Stew rightfully will not play in Salt Lake without the Utes agreeing to come
back to the Spectrum.Majerous was never afraid to take on the
Aggies. Shows how much the Utes BBAll program has fallen.
See! this is the perfect reason for my long time suggestion. Each year the DN
& Tribune and local business leaders could sponsor a four team tournament at
the Energy Solutions Arena. The tournament involves Weber State, Utah State,
UofU & BYU. The games could be on a Friday / Saturday evening. Perhaps when
the Jazz are on the Eastern road trip. It would be a huge success. You could use
the event to promote Food Donations or some other worthy cause. It would be the
hottest ticket in town. Double header each night. Winners play winners and
losers play losers. The best part of all is no home cooking. No team would have
a home court advantage. Come on someone, catch the vision of how great this
could be. Maybe even expand one day to UVUU and Southern Utah State and make it
Thursday thru Saturday.Jeff
@UU32UCLA may not be lined up for a home and home with USU in
basketball but USC just signed a home and home deal with them. They'll be
playing in the Spectrum in 2 years.
Utah basketball has dropped to new lows thanks to Boylen who is in his last year
by the way. Looking forward to a good thrashing tonight in Logan. Go Aggies!
Hey Balan: You say there is much better competition in the PAC-12? How come the
PAC-10 had as many NCAA berths as the WAC last year and half as many as the
Mountain West? It's not a basketball conference, which is probably why the Utes
will feel right at home.
Ironmomo, You should rethink your comments about Utah's schedule. Bowl games are
not part of the Schedule. They are a result of winning the games on your
schedule. Go back over the last ten years of Utah's Schedule and tell me the
great and ranked teams that Utah has played on their SCHEDULE. They play the
toughest teams each year when they play TCU, Air Force and BYU. Name another
team that has been ranked when Utah has played them. Michigan-worst team in
years. They did play one this year and it was a good test for them, maybe. I get
tired of hearing Ute fans brag about their bowls. Bowl Games are never
scheduled. When you are yacken, understand what you are yacken about.
Didn't know Dave Rose was coaching in Salt Lake now...
Actually, from what I understand is that Utah ans USU are still negotiations
about it. Utah still has Weber St. on the schedule because WSU agreed to play
all the games in SL. BYU is Utah's biggest rival, so that will have precedence
over USU. Given an 18 game season with those 2 games and a tourney that takes
up about 24 games from a 30-32 game season.My guess is, the two
schools will work it out
When did the Pac-X become a hoops power? NEVER. Outside of UW, U of A and maybe
UCLA, the rest of the conf is as weak as the U. Look at who some of the teams
have lost to so far this year...Texas SouthernFlorida AtlanticRideretc...Oregon is horrible and Or State is no better. Cal
and Stanford are tweeners along with the USC. Do not confuse pac10 basketball
with football, even as weak as football is, hoops is further behind for an AQ
conference with LOTS of money and suppose-ed "better athletes".
We used to leave early, head up through Ogden, pull into Brigham City for around
five. Have dinner at Maddox's and pick up some maple balls at the Idle Isle and
then start the journey through the canyon to get to Logan. Saw some wonderful
games at the Spectrum and LOVED our road trips. I remember once we were heading
through the canyon for a football game and following a trail of cars. Right as
we pull out the KUTV helicopter was hovering really low and getting pictures of
all of us. Quite cool. I'm telling you--I think Dr. Hill is sort of a
genius--but if losing are connection with Utah State is part of some grand
scheme, I'm very concerned.
Pavalova, anyone who says the PAC is not a powerhouse in basketball does not
have any historical context.
It's to bad that things have came to this.Utah has decided to go of
on its own. More power to her. And the same to the Cougars.The
Aggies will survive and continue to be what they are.This is just
another good reason to hate the Utes.I can only hope that the day
will come that the Utes will get their just do.I'll remain a Aggie
fan the rest of my life.No matter what.
IdahoAggie,just curious, what would Utah's "just do (sic)"
be?What sort of punishment or cosmic badness does Utah deserve?
What immutable laws have been violated by Utah causing them to their just due?
As I said in my post, I think the two schools will work something
out. I think it was premature for Morrill to say anything, but I
think it was intentional posturing on his part to paint Utah as the team not
willing to work them. I actually take Hill at is word that it is a fluid
situation and something they are trying to work out.
All those dissing the Pac 12 in bball are just jealous or insecure about going
to the WCC or remaining in the WAC. I hope they keep these games
though. Let me go put up my Ute flag for the game tonight.Go Utes, beat the Aggies again.
@UU32 - You're correct, I wasn't going back to the Wooden years. I am talking
present only (last 10-15 years).
Aggies will make it 7 straight wins over the Utes tonight in Logan.
I'm going to have to get another costume because I just learned that the U is
changing its mascot to the redfaced chicken.My once mighty Utes,
conquerors of the PAC 12, are now such wimps that we can't handle playing Utah
State and Weber State anymore. The only reason we'll continue to
schedule BYU is because we Utes would never be able to show our faces around the
state again if we tried ducking the Cougars.I'm not even going to
bother showing up in Logan tonight, because it's going to be a slaughter.
Aggie Steve,You're probably right on that. I've been looking
forward to this game for quite a while. It will be a great test for my beloved
Utes with as little as they've played together. Can't get a more hostile
environment than USU, and they are a very good team. I'm looking for my Utes to
compete. If they fight and keep themselves in it that is great, if they win
Utah State is a great team. But heck, so are Utah and BYU. It's a pity that it
has come to this. Basketball is a great sport and I'd rather watch it over
college football any day. March Madness can't come soon enough!
Utah Man Funny, Utah is ducking competition. If U
thought Utah's pre-conference schedule was weak this year, wait'll U get a load
of nothing but Grand Canyon and Adams State from November until early
January.btw, how many MWC and PAC 10 teams played in the big dance
last season?Now explain to us, again, why we should believe that
Utah is moving up in basketball competition in the PAC 12.Utah's
arrogance about now being "one of the big boys" because they're moving
to the PAC 12 is becoming a complete joke.The 4th or 5th best
basketball program in the state, but now they're too good to play the teams that
are better than the Utes.
utahcountyuteAll those ending long-standing series because they
think they're too good to play in-state teams anymore, are the most insecure of
all.You'd better make sure that's a while flag, utahcountyute,
because Utah just surrendered to Utah State. The Utes will never be
able claim they're better than the Aggies, ever again, because the Utes have
already admitted that they're not good enough to beat the Aggies.
I think Coach Morrill is good at getting his guys to play with a chip on thier
shoulder and though the news this week of the series ending between Utah and
Utah State may not mean alot to the current players it may add a little fuel to
the fire. Right now the Ags have far better players and coaches and Utah State
will most likely put a 30 point beatdown on the Utes tonight.
It's a sad day for Utah when the Utes start hiding behind the skirts of the PAC
12 so they don't have to play in-state rivals.The days of Utah being
the best basketball team in the state ended when Majerus left and the Utah
basketball program has been in steady decline ever since.The Utah
basketball program is in shambles and the only reason the Utes won't be doormats
in the PAC 12 is because the PAC 12 is loaded with teams that are equally as bad
as the Utes.
This decade has been one of the worst stretches in Utah basketball history and
the Utes still have more tournament wins than USU and BYU....COMBINED.Don't forget who still owns basketball in this state.Go Utes!
"Don't forget who still owns basketball in this state.It
certainly isn't a team that's been owned by Utah State and BYU the last 5
years.Utah will be owned again tonight in Logan. The Utes will be
lucky to stay within 20 points of the Aggies.
mundee"This decade has been one of the worst stretches in Utah
basketball history"Actually, this decade just started, but it
does continue one of the worst stretches in Utah basketball history, with no end
in site.Utah basketball is dead and the only thing propping it up
are the ghosts of Utah teams past.How any Utah fan could claim that
Utah is still the best basketball team in the state just shows how delusional
Utah fans have become with their PAC 12 delusions of grandeur.
All this big talk from USU fans! I seem to recall that we beat you last year
even in one of our worst years ever. EVER!The PAC 10 is STILL
calling the Utes will get back to top again soon. You can count on it.
How much is this Stew Merrill's way of motivating the fans for tonights game.
It sounds like Stew is kind of whining about Utah not scheduling them anymore.
Its not fearing playing in Logan its all about money and no team really enjoys
the two hour bus drive up to Utah State. That is one of the main factors of
teams not flying into Salt Lake then taking a bus. The fans in Logan are
classless, that winning team, losing team cheer is very unsportsmen like and it
needs to go. But it wont because everyone thinks it cute.
utahcountyute"the Utes will get back to top again soon"Soon, in geological terms, maybe.
I could care less when I get to watch Washington, UCLA, Stanford, Arizona, USC,
Oregon and others come to town during the conference schedule. No
more Air Force, CSU, WYO and hopefully at some point, no more BYU. BYU and USU can flex muscles as soon as they advance past the second round of
UteMan"BYU and USU can flex muscles as soon as they advance
past the second round of the tourney!"Fans of a team that was
blown out in it's ONLY NCAA appearance in the last five years have no right to
lecture other fans about when they can "flex muscles".