Good for Utah! We've all seen the benifits of green energy. 'Solar plane completes historic 24-hour flight' - By Eliane Engeler - AP -
07/08/10 Line:'Aircraft could stay in the air indefinitely,
charging batteries from sun's rays.'
Too bad Utah won't get any of the energy from this project... it's all going to
the power-glut California!
It's not all bad if the energy goes to California:1) Utah benefits
financially for hosting the turbines2) Utah also gets less of the
pollution created in California wafting over the state. Besides, when it comes
to safeguarding the environment, man-made boundaries don't really matter.
Yeah, I question how "wonderful" of a neighbor First Wind is, when all
they're really doing is buying off the local town to put up giant structures
that won't benefit Milford, or Utah at all. I hope they are at least paying for
the use of the land, but my guess is they bought it outright, so the best we can
hope for is tax revenue...
Pagan, 2 bits,Rocky Mountain Power offers silimar green energy. It
costs an extra $1.95 per KWH. Are you buying?it's good to see the
project brought jobs to Millard and Beaver counties. Too bad the the turbines
were built most likely built in China, like the ones in Tooele and Spanish Fork
Canyon. I hope I'm wrong on that; please show me that I am.
This project exists only because of huge taxpayer subsidies. Unfortunately (or
fortunately, depending on one's perspective), there is no subsidy for
maintenance so the project must pay for itself it anyone is to expect to find
money for maintenance. Historically, that profitability has not surfaced.
Consequently, the nation is dotted with thousands of broken-down wind turbines,
large and small, that arent worth fixing. There isnt even money to pull down
those worthless idle eyesores. Congratulations, Milford County. Thanks a lot,
"green"-energy advocates. ("Green" energy advocates are
people who don't know science, ignore economics, and won't do the math.)
Knowing CA as I do, if there's any money involved going to UT, better get it up
front. CA is so cash strapped, they're virtually bankrupt.I say you
better tax the daylights out of 'em (UT should make out on this). And if they
don't pay, do a Hugo Chavez & take 'em over.
And ONCE again, Utah is last out of the gate!!!Perpetually 30
years behind.Look,A BOSTON company, installs wind
turbines from China, to send power to California.And you guys
are jumping up and down.Meanwhile - I get hammered here DAILY for
trying to advocate more of them, and get blasted because Utah is full of Global
Warming deniers, and burns Coal and Gasoline like no one else!!!This
is called exploitation, in others words - You snooze - you loose.
LDS Liberal,California is in a great hurt because they are destroying thier own
ecomony. To many, to strick and to stupid enviromental laws make them loose
thier tax structure. Even the California dariys are moving to other states. When
your manufacturing tax base leave, your community dies. Milford is looking to
provide jobs so thier young families can stay there. The wind mills are only
part of the permanent business they are working to get. Thier community has had
poor years so they understand what happens if you turn away to much business.
I wonder when people will wake up and realize there is no such thing as green
energy. All energy production is destructive regardless of what it is or where
it comes from or where it goes. At one time coal and gas powered plants and
hydroelectric dams were considered green energy. It's all in the eye of the
beholder and the lies of the producers and your willingness to be fooled.These towering stands of windmills doting the country are so inefficient
and useless they could never replace any other known production of electricity.
And like someone said, they don't benefit Utah at all and have destroyed habitat
and productive land in Utah.
@ Blaine:Let's be honest about energy subsidies... the fossil fuel
industry could not survive without the federal and state subsidies that have
been given to both domestic and foreign companies for over a century. From railroads built with federal dollars to link coal mines to coal-fired
power plants to pipelines built with federal dollars for oil and gas companies
to power lines connecting fossil fuel-fired electricity to load centers to tax
incentives for drilling and mining to subsidized water for making the power
(wind doesn't use water). Oil companies also get tax breaks, and in Utah, coal
doesn't pay a severance tax.Who built all the dams for hydro
electric power? Feds! Also, the nuclear power industry relies on tax payers
for its insurance and security of nuclear waste. Fossil fuels, hydro, and
nuclear power couldn't be profitable without the subsidies from tax payers.Don't forget how our Navy escorts oil tankers out of the Mideast to keep
pirates away from "our" oil. That's American tax payers subsidizing
foreign oil companies and foreign oil.Bottom line is that our
government has always subsidized America's energy infrastructure. Renewables
should be supported too!
@Baron Scarpia 7:38 amOn a per unit of energy generated basis,
renewable electricity generation is subsidized at a rate 54 times that of
coal-generated electricity.The same subsidized roads and railroads
that are used to transport coal are used to transport the raw materials (wind
mills are made from steel which is made from coal, iron ore, and limestone,
often transported by rail) needed for renewables to the factories that make
renewable components and from the factories to the job site where they are
assembled. Many renewables use rare-earth metals that come only from
China. The transport of these materials is also protected by the US Navy. Users of nuclear power pay a special tax intended to cover the cost of
nuclear waste disposal.
I see only positive in this article. Yet I see much negative in the comments. To
be able to find such negativity is certainly a skill. Not a useful one, but it
is a skill.