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Utah Utes football: Utah plummets to 15, TCU moves to No. 3 college football polls

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  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:15 a.m.

    As a die hard Ute I have to admit I was totally shocked and somewhat embarrassed with the performance of my Utes yesterday.
    Are the naw sayers right when they say Utah isn't ready for the big show????
    I am somewhat concerned about next year at this point.
    Gotta love the Utes but today my heart is heavy.

  • OnlyInUtah Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:21 a.m.

    I don't think anyone is surprized with this.

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:26 a.m.

    I'm curious. Those Wounded Warrior Uni's they are going to auction.

    I hope the University of Utah announces where those Unis will be auctioned.

    I don't think many Utah fans really want them, but I'll bet plenty of BYU fans will pony up big for them.

    It will make more money for the project.

    I want the one Wynn wore.
    ===

    #15, sounds closer to reality.

    Enjoy it. It's still a good ranking for a team from a non-AQ conference.

  • Wiley Old School RIC, VA
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:26 a.m.

    No problem with this ranking. In fact I think it shows respect for both TCU and Utah programs that Utah didn't drop even lower. If Utah can respond positively to Saturday's setback, a final ranking in the top ten is not out of reach.

  • HatedU springville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:29 a.m.

    ND will knock them out of the top 25 for good. Not sure they will ever see a top 25 ranking again.....enjoy that pac 11-1/2

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:37 a.m.

    After next Saturday utah will be out
    of the top 25 - where they belong.

  • UtahRoper Wellsville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:38 a.m.

    Wow! Worse than I predicted TWO WEEKS ago! I had them losing big and dropping to somewhere between 12 and 14. I quess the media disrespects them even more than a realstic Cougar fan!

    Now here is my next prediction: they will lose to ALL of the religous based schools they play this year. It started with TCU and will continue with Notre Dame and BYU.

    Here is to a 9-3 regular season and third place in the MWC!

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:40 a.m.

    That's about where they should have landed. Lucky to be there really. I'm with you owl!

    There are still 3 more games to prove the Utes belong at that spot. Hopefully the large slice of humble pie they received yesterday will help them in the long run as they take on superior competition each week next year.

    Go Utes-one---game---at---a---time!

  • ourtime99 Clearfield, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:42 a.m.

    And remind me where BYU is on these lists? I keep looking but can't seem to find them anywhere.

  • ross55 payson, utah
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:48 a.m.

    The utes got exposed like i said they would to all my friends. They have not played anyone prior too the AF game and were lucky too win that one. They have nice athletes thier is no doubt, but Jordan wynn got exposed also he is just not that good. BYU with a freshman QB will give Utah a game come Nov 27th. We have played a much tougher schedule and Utah will have another loss before they play us. We could possibly be playing for second place come Nov 27th. Laugh Utes but it could happen. With all our problems with youth this year we are in a good spot. Look at comparison playing TCU, we were still in the game at halftime you were done at half.We played them at thier house, you got bombed at home. I know you are laughing Utes, but its a real possibility you could take Third place, if we somehow win in SLC.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:00 p.m.

    Enjoy those ranking number while they last! I hope the entertainment factor of Ute football next week is as equal to what I saw yesterday.

    Amber alert for NC UTES 2010 still in effect.

    Mark it down!

  • Wild Blue Abilene, TX
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:04 p.m.

    Best line at the College Game Day:

    "Kirt-I thought you really liked this place."

    "Lee-I do, it's almost as nice as Provo."

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:07 p.m.

    Utah will fare fine agaist ND next week. They probably will be favored and end up winning by 14 or more.

    People are way too reactionary. ND lost their QB for the season in their last game before the bye. They have had two weeks to prepare for the Utes, but they still don't have the players to match up with the Utes like TCU did.

    SDSU and BYU are the ones Utah should worry about. Each has the D to exploit Utah.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:09 p.m.

    Keep looking, ourtime99, I don't think that you will find BYU anywhere. Most college fans know that. If you don't, that's just plain interesting.

    Remember, they have been for the past 4 years straight.

    You should respect that accomplishment, rather than try to deminish it.

    They own scoreboard on you, have for 3 of 4 years, and if they keep improving, could own you 4-5.

    Not a hater--- just looking at reality.

    Wiley, a 10 point drop does not, in any world, show respect for a one loss team in the polls. It is about as disrespectful as it gets.

    Media and coaches dropped them as far as they really could. Utah fell behind three "2-loss" teams.
    ===

    And what is the deal with "booing" Jordan Wynn. Sportsmanship is taught at every level, beginning with kids soccer games, yet paint someone red, and all the rules go out the window.

    As embarassing as the loss was, as embarassing as Hedge, Naval, and chrisB are, booing Wynn yesterday was the most classless act I have ever witnessed by Utefans. Who would dare boo him to his face?

    Utefans need to understand what college sports are about.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:13 p.m.

    Wow,

    A lot of obsessed Utah haters all concerned were the Utes will be ranked....funny. no mention of their beloved kewgs. Oh well, live out your frustrations through the Utes.

    What's most concerning about the beatdown yesterday wasn't being over matched by TCU but the fear and frustration I saw in the players (and coaches). The coaching staff has always been able set a tough and desipline tone... some how that went away on Saturday.

    No excuses for not showing up and competing. NONE!

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:14 p.m.

    Utah does not belong in the top 20. You don't deserve a top 20 ranking if you get spanked at home by 40. Neither should a team that lost to a Div-2 team be ranked in the top 20 (Virgina Tech)... just my rules.

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:27 p.m.

    ross, unless SDSU beats TCU... if BYU and Utah both win out, they WILL be playing for a second place tie (with a bYU win), and if SDSU beats Utah, Utah will have to win to tie BYU for third.

    Let's see how far we have to go back in history to find Utah in third place in the MWC?

    That would be last year, 09, and 07.

    It seems all the athletic prowness talk that Larry Scott gave about Utah, the PAC is getting a perenial mid-major third place team.

    Which Utes are laughing?

    That's the reality.

    Utah/BYU game, again, is the most important game on Utah's schedule.
    ===

    BTW, did you see the stands during the fourth quarter yesterday.

    That's how empty they will be after the fourth game every year from now on.

    So, now who again wants to talk stadium expansion?

    The problem with the PAC invite, is the PAC gets the Utes, third in football, non-CBI in basketball, and one conference championship in women's tennis, is it does not magically change anything.

    The Utes... are still, and will always be... the Utes.

    Mediocre.

  • Scots Ogden, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:28 p.m.

    2008 #2 Texas Tech vs #5 Oklahoma. Oklahoma won 65-21. An Thier is no way Utah will loss to Notre Dame or BYU if some way in hell they loss they would be 2nd not 3rd.

  • Andy Tomasso Layton, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:36 p.m.

    Hedge, nobody is claiming that BYU is better, Utah will probably win that game. all we are saying is all the gloating and all the stuff coming from the trolls while BYU was losing, well this is just payback. you beat Vegas, San Jose st. and Wyoming and thought you were a top 5 team. you guys even thought you could be National champs, now its looking like that final game of the season is gonna be better than everyone thought a month ago.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:47 p.m.

    Hedgehog - they did show up. This is who Utah is. Like a Democrat after the 2010 midterm election, you just don't get the message.
    Did you leave at halftime too?

  • yankee doodle Layton, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:48 p.m.

    Hey hedgie, how many times do you comment on BYU stories again? seriously dude look in the mirror.
    You Utesies aren't so confident now opening your precious Pac whatever schedule against USC are ya?
    ND knocks Utah out of the top 25 next week, mark it down NC Utes 2010
    Where are you anyway, pretty quiet now aren't ya?

  • Ute Bird Mascot Fruit Heights, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 12:51 p.m.

    We found Hedge. He's OK!!!

    Amber Alert still on for National Championship 2010 dude. Last seen marking things down.

    Sure there are haters now. Congratulations Hedge, to you and your buddies. You guys have turned many BYU fans who cheered for Utah into TCU fans. You are excellent teachers.

    I do think 2-3 more beatdowns this year for the Utes, then we can all tie this perrenial third place football (fans included) team up in a bow with a one way ticket to the PAC, and let them practice their bad sportsmanship (booing Wynn?)against a whole new group of teams. Oh, and take the basketball team with you, also. It's embarassing turning down offers of "free tickets" from friends and families because there is better programing on TV.

    You will enjoy the Left Coast. They love illiterate sports fans filled with hate.

    Enjoy the crow, you earned it, deserve it, and should lick the plate clean. Remember the taste for next time.
    ===

    Props on the Cami Uni's. The whole team disappeared.

    Nice touch, letting Bronco, change the names to values.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 1:15 p.m.

    Wow, some Ute discontent about this ranking. What's so great about a ranking now that we all know it was joke all along? Kiss the dream goodbye. It will be better next year or will it?

    Utes peaked 2 weeks ago, AFA exposed some problems and TCU just spanked you guys on nat'l tv. That was fun to see the stone faced fans on tv and the DNews has some choice pictures of Wynn, Coach and the fans to rub it all in. A game to remember.

    #15 is way too generous when you consider the gravity of the situation and the other programs.

    Utes are better than all of these guys?

    16. Virginia Tech 7-2 540 20
    17. Mississippi St. 7-2 501 21
    18. Arizona 7-2 481 13
    19. Oklahoma 7-2 436 11
    20. Missouri 7-2 420 14
    21. Nevada 8-1 304 25
    22. South Carolina 6-3 170 18
    23. Texas A&M 6-3 130 –
    24. Florida 6-3 94 –
    25. UCF 7-2 74 –

    Didn't think so!

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 1:25 p.m.

    I have to laugh at these rankings. Didn't I see Iowa crush Michigan State, and I mean crush them, two weeks ago? Might that suggest that the Spartans are a bit overrated? I know it would be easy to pile on the Utes and how easy their schedule was but them and Nebraska have one loss and one common opponent Iowa State. Both played the Cyclones on their home turf. Nebraska beats Iowa State by one point in OT and the Utes beat them by 40. I think the Utes ranking is generally fair but I think Nebraska and Michigan are grossly overrated. Another team that might deserve more love is Nevada, they are legit. Again, the bias against the non BCS conferences remain. Also, notice how VA Tech is back in the rankings. What this shows me is that when they lost to James Madison, that wasn't that much of a fluke. The Hokies aren't dead. But it does show that great football teams exist outside the BCS conferences and even outside the FBS (Division I).

  • DixieRebelsForever! SLC, Utah
    Nov. 7, 2010 1:50 p.m.

    Actually a 15-25 ranking for the Utes is probably pretty accurate. They are young. Ute fans should be excited about the future. This team reminds me a lot of BYU 2008. Lots of young potential that will have a good inagural season in the PAC 12. Past that, see the Oregon St. history for where the Utes likely will be. Middle of the pack. Rose bowl every 10 years or so.

    BTW, I am a BYU fan. Any fan of any team that thinks Utah should have stayed in the MWC is dilusional. If given the invite, BYU would have done the same thing.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 2:05 p.m.

    Nice to have a story not dominated by yewt hyperbole. Sorry, hedgehog, send back the NC 2010 trophy. i don't hate the yewts, just their hubris. If you want to see the real NC trophy, travel down to Cougar Town.

  • live_simply Tooele, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 2:18 p.m.

    poor people bashing still. People that coach football and watch football for a living have the utes rank 15. Ranking is just a stupid number. And it proves anyone can be beat anywhere. Just depends on the day. Sad people out there.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 7, 2010 2:27 p.m.


    Four observations from yesterday.

    1. Yesterday the Cougs spoke for themselves.

    2. Any team who loses 47-7 on their home field, does'nt deserve any ranking.

    3. With Notre Dame losing their quarterback, there may be a slight chance next week for the utes.

    4. Had San Diego State played the ute scheldule, they would have lost their undefeated season yesterday as well. San Diego State and the Utes are about equal.

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 7, 2010 2:30 p.m.



    I'd rank the Utes 12th behind Okla St. and just ahead of Nevada, followed by all 2-loss teams including Bama.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 2:42 p.m.

    I like to see both the Utes and Cougs do well. But Cougarista, there is no NCAA trophy to show anyone at BYU. It doesn't exist. Organizations honored the Cougs such as the UPI and AP for their national championship but the NCAA doesn't sponsor a NCAA championship in football. I'm sure even Utah in 2008 could find some organization that said they were #1. The BCS is not an official NCAA organization either. The only reason BYU is recognized as the #1 team is that they were the only undefeated team that year. There accomplishment is no better than Utah's accomplishments in 2004 and 2008. The Utes were simply shut out by the BCS system so thank goodness the Cougs weren't cursed by this system back then.

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 7, 2010 2:45 p.m.


    Ute Bird Mascot -- Best quote of the day "Props on the Cami Uni's. The whole team disappeared."

    Don't worry Utes, you'll be back on top next Saturday, when you pummel Notre Dame at their place. Run it up on them, show no mercy, and you will put this game behind you.

  • TheVoice South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 7, 2010 2:51 p.m.

    T CU vs UTAH 47-7
    Utah is just not Living Right, they just haven’t got the Magic.
    My Prediction for Next season:
    2011 Utah Football Schedule
    Sept. 1 Montana State Salt Lake CityW, 48-21
    Sept. 10 at USC* Los Angeles, Calif.L, 54-7
    Sept. 17 at Brigham Young Provo, UtahL, 34-31
    Sept. 24 open
    Oct. 1 Washington* Salt Lake CityL, 23-14
    Oct. 8 Arizona State* Salt Lake CityL, 38-17
    Oct. 15 at Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, Pa.L, 28-21
    Oct. 22 at California* San Francisco, Calif.L, 32-28
    Oct. 29 Oregon State* Salt Lake CityL, 42-21
    Nov. 5 at Arizona* Tucson, Ariz.L, 54-14
    Nov. 12 UCLA* Salt Lake CityL, 21-13
    Nov. 19 at Washington State* Pullman, Wash.W, 17-7
    Nov 26 Colorado* Salt Lake CityW, 28-17

    Season 3-9

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 3:18 p.m.

    eagle

    "...there is no NCAA trophy to show anyone at BYU. It doesn't exist."

    That's true, but BYU does have several trophies, including the famous *Crystal Football trophy, that are officially recognized on the NCAA's OFFICIAL Website.

    *The AFCA National Championship Trophy (Coaches' Trophy) is the trophy awarded by the American Football Coaches Association (AFCA) to the winner of college football's BCS National Championship Game, which determines the national champion for purposes of the Coaches Poll...

    The trophy consists of a Waterford Crystal football affixed to an ebony base, and carries a value of over $30,000. The winning school retains permanent possession of the trophy, as a new one is awarded every year. The football portion of the trophy weighs approximately 8 pounds and together with the stand, it weights about 45 pounds and stands 34 inches tall. It is handmade by an artist in Ireland and takes nearly 3 months to complete.

    In 2009, the AFCA issued the trophy to schools whose teams were voted number one by the Coaches' Poll in years before the trophy was issued.

    To see the actual trophy, visit BYU's Sport Hall of Fame.

  • thelogicalone West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 3:19 p.m.

    bummer.

  • ogmson Mapleton, Utah
    Nov. 7, 2010 3:19 p.m.

    First. Clarification for Hedgehog from Friday....Irrelevant was the word you used.

    Hey Hedge, were you inferring that BYU was irrelevant with a QB that posted a QB rating of 168 versus the Yewt QB who was, what, 87?

    Or, did the irrelevant comment suggest that Dalton's QB rating of 233.9 was expected?

    Irrelevant is this: Utah Ute Football and Basketball.

    Irrelevant is the loud mouth ute fans who proclaimed all week long about how 'vaunted' and 'powerful' their teams defense was. Did I just use the word defense? Sorry, 520 yards, the most ever gained in two years by TCU is only spelled with an 'O', as in Offensive.

    Not to mention all the talk last week about the Rose Bowl??? Are you freaking kidding me?? Unless you are speaking of the next game at UCLA, you will not see the Rose Bowl game for two decades.

    Four turnovers? On National TV? Not crossing the 50 for over 3/4 of the game?

    As a true blue Cougar, I can at least say that the beat down by FSU last year was nothing compared to that fiasco yesterday.

    Ute fans: Drop the delusion now, please.

  • scott182 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 3:19 p.m.

    I guess the differance is Utah plays to get into BCS bowl games, BYU just wants to beat Utah. Some say Utah has little brother syndome, doesn't seem that way to me. Alot of BYU fans are always bitter and angry....

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 3:22 p.m.

    My My BYU fans who's the one obsessed now?? Your even making predictions about next seasons results.

    The Blue Bluster Cult has been exposed!!!

  • Pete321 Ogden, ut
    Nov. 7, 2010 3:50 p.m.

    Looks like a soft schedule up front, finally caught up with the Utes. Can you say way way over rated!!! Talk about a humble dose of reality.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Nov. 7, 2010 4:03 p.m.

    Hey Hedge, were you inferring that BYU was irrelevant,

    ogmson,

    Yes. Yes I was.

    By the way: Utah State called to remind you your irrelevant.

    Nuff said.

  • Ibleedcrimson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 4:11 p.m.

    "San Diego State and the Utes are about equal."

    And BYU and Wyoming are about equal.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 4:37 p.m.

    To all UTE fans, from a quasi-Cougar fan.

    We can sympathize with you, getting your butts kicked by TCU, but look on the bright side. Think how much fun you'll have when you kick BYU's butt in a few weeks.

    And while the Cougars MIGHT end up playing in the New Mexico Bowl, the Utes will most likely be playing in VEGAS!

    Go Utes and Cougars the rest of the season!

    As for next season, I truly hope the Utes do well. I have a feeling it will be easier for me to cheer for the Utes, now that they'll be in a different conference.

  • da bob Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 4:39 p.m.

    WOW. Completely and fully embarrassed in front of the whole nation.

    Thanks a lot Utah!

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 7, 2010 5:02 p.m.

    The MUSS booed Wynn? That's bush league!

  • hemidemisemiquaver Farmington, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 5:32 p.m.

    I keep waiting for NC UTES 2010 to post that regardless of yesterday's outcome, the Utes are still the best team in the nation and deserve to be national champions. BTW, where is he?

  • skudkino Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 6:12 p.m.

    Did anyone else see that San Diego State is getting votes for the top 25. What a joke.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Nov. 7, 2010 6:17 p.m.

    @ hedgehog.....good to see you back up and in the mix. I always miss your never failing comments. I agree with you on the part of how scared the team and coaches looked. Must be because they haven't seen such a dominant team. I thought Utah would lose but not like this. With all the points they scored, I thought for sure this game would come down to who played the best in the 4th quarter. I have to admit I was shocked, excited but shocked. Yes Utah is probably a better team than BYU but that's what makes college football so fun, anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Just ask Virginia Tech, Alabama, Ohio State and others. That is why I love this sport so much because of the passion, the desire and the upsets that occur all the time. This was not an upset but it was embarrassing. Utah will rebound, they have a couple of teams they can beat. I hope the BYU team from Saturday can show up at Utah, then it's game on.

  • NewMexicoUte Albuquerque, NM
    Nov. 7, 2010 6:56 p.m.

    Not bad for losing by 40+ points at home! Just goes to show you how much Utah is respected. Now if they are fighters, pick yourselves up after a beat down, brush yourselves and live to fight another day. If they believed in the hype, were arrogant, didn't come to play, and TCU is just that good, time to forget it all and be ready for next game...Notre Dame.

    It was extremely painful yesterday! Every dog has its day. It was Utah's yesterday. All I can say is, your still my team win or lose, go UTES!!!

  • Rock Chalk BYU Lawrence, KS
    Nov. 7, 2010 7:26 p.m.

    @ eagle

    You are absolutely correct, the NCAA---spinelessly---does not crown a champion in FBS football. And yes, the 2008 Utes found at least someone that was willing to name them champions (K Whit voted them #1 in the coaches poll, I probably would have also). In 1984 BYU also found someone to vote them #1---the major polls, unanimously, maybe you missed that.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 7, 2010 8:10 p.m.

    Mr. HedgeHog,

    People posting here are not Ute haters. You just don't get it. It's because of you and some others who post an endless amount of sarcastic remarks of the Cougars. It's nice to see you guys eat crow---nothing about hating the ute football team.

    The football team don't know anything about you and probably don't care too.

  • WestCoast1 Escondido, CA
    Nov. 7, 2010 8:11 p.m.

    The BYU fans have come back! I'd wondered where you had all gone. Perhaps losing 5 games (it should be 6 losses) will do that. Anyway, it's funny to see posters like Veritas Aequitas and sammy g dishing out smack on a Ute article, accompanied by several newer posters piling on. Oh well.

    For you guys, it all boils down to your game against Utah in three weeks. This will be the equivalent of your bowl game this year for you.

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 8:40 p.m.

    Utah was beat by a truly great team Saturday. What an awesome performance by TCU. Congratulations to them. There fans were great to talk to Saturday at the game. If given the chance, they can win it all.

    Utah still has a very good team and will bounce back and finish the season strong. What a great year for Utah! A one loss record will be awesome with the only loss to the NC.

    GO UTES!!!!

  • Basement Dweller Prather, CA
    Nov. 7, 2010 8:57 p.m.

    Looks like I'm stuck at mom's for at least another year. Go Utes, beat those other evil church schools still on tap.

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 9:18 p.m.

    Ranked 15th...GIFT!!!

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Nov. 7, 2010 9:31 p.m.

    Hedgehog- Cougar fans are piling on you because of all of the stuff that you post on the BYU articles, don't get offended, if you dish it out, man up and take it once in a while.

    Notre Dame will be interesting game for the Utes, starting QB out and all, should be a good game to watch.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Nov. 7, 2010 9:55 p.m.

    Saturday was a fine day.

    ND went out of their way to help BYU on scheduling so I am going to pull for them next week.

    I used to pull for Utah in big games (except against BYU) until all of the trolls kicked BYU when they were down and were really obnoxious about it.

    Utah is a very good and dangerous team. They can be one of the best teams in the country on any given day. After yesterday it is also obvious they can be one of the worst. Usually they get up for big games.

    Utah will do whatever they are going to do. I am more worried about CSU which can play decently when they want to.

    Hopefully BYU has some poise and determination on the road. Hopefully Heaps, the WRs and eventually the TEs play up to potential.

    Its been fun but BYU needs to focus on CSU now.

    Utah will do whatever they are going to do.

    Lets hope BYU beats CSU and UNM and then dials up its best game of the year against the Utes.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 10:10 p.m.

    Utah Will not lose anymore games this season. TCU is a very strong team and will play in the National championship. It just wasn't Utah's day on Saturday everything that could have gone wrong did.

    BYU's hope for a sucessful season will all happen when Utah plays BYU and as I stated befor Utah won't be losing.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 10:15 p.m.

    Ute fans have had to put up with delusional BYU fans for longer than BYU has had to deal with Delusional Ute fans. Ute fans are still more realistic than the Delusional BYU fans.

    What if Utah would have beat TCU would the National Championship still be on the table? Yes it would just like TCU will play for one this year

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Nov. 7, 2010 10:49 p.m.

    TCU is a great team and so is Utah. TCU was great on Saturday and now everyone knows they can play. The Utes slipped to #15. My only question is where are the Cougars ranked right now? I would rather be playing the top ten then playing for the bottom of the MWC. I still have the same question for everyone - with the quality of teams in the MWC and those coming in, why do you need to go independent to gain national exposure. Simply win your conference and that will answer all questions. Any comments? Keep going strong Utah and we will see you at the BYU game.

  • bigdaddy Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:00 p.m.

    @Creepie51

    "Ute fans are still more realistic than the Delusional BYU fans."

    Ifs and buts....I'm sorry to have to be brutally honest here but the fact that delusional Yewt fans were even thinking NC privately (let alone brazenly talking about it out loud) with the team that stunk this badly the first time it played good competition puts Yewt fans into a whole new category of delusion.

    I guess most yewt fans are now thinking that the cupcake schedule wasn't such a good strategy after all. Here's a suggestion....next time don't schedule any good teams (especially not TCU and BYU) and just play all cupcakes. Oh, wait, the next season you'll be going 6-6 in the Pac 12, sorry my bad.

    BTW, I'd like to bid $1 on Jordan Wynn's jersey.

  • Realistic Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:02 p.m.

    Wow. Was TCU determined to prove how good they were. Kudos to them for such a well played game. They truly deserve a shot at the NC.

    They need Auburn or Oregon to lose before that will happen. Here's to a little of the 2008 Ute luck falling the Horned Frogs way

  • P. Sylvan Redlands, CA
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:17 p.m.

    Big J

    BYU played TCU tougher in Fort Worth than Utah did at home, with game day there. Third quarter to get over your own 50 yard line, and only once all game?

    TCU is good, but if BYU can play them better on the road than the Utes at home, and with one-loss SDSU hanginb around, don't be banking your "one loss season" yet.

    That was the reason for the picture with this article. All the fans had played the season out in their heads and were hit with reality.

    Get ready for SDSU and BYU to hang a target our your PAC leaving backs.

    Heaps is maturing well. BYU played better against Wyoming than Utah did.

    Just don't have that expression on your faces, or leave during the third quarter, and boo Jordan Wynn (great kid) if you get blown out by SDSU or BYU.

    Get prepared for it now.

    It will make it so much easier to deal with when reality hits you smack in the face.

    AGAIN...

  • Texas Ute Fan Austin, Texas
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:30 p.m.

    Can someone please tell me exactly what it is that BYU has accomplished this year to garnish national respect? The Cougars are only 4-5 so far this season, that includes an embarrassing loss to Utah State, and big losses to Florida State, Nevada and TCU.

  • h00plah Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:34 p.m.

    :( This BYU fan was pulling big for the U. 15 is still up there, though.

    Stay classy, Utah!

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Nov. 7, 2010 11:50 p.m.

    I thought the Yewtes would drop 12 to 13 spots with the loss to TCU. MWC gets dinged for being the MWC, one loss and the team really tumbles in the polls. However, given the schedule the Yewtes played this year, I really thought they would have a deeper drop.

  • Th Tooele, UT
    Nov. 8, 2010 12:05 a.m.

    You cougars kill me.

    TCU played a heck of a game yesterday. They haven't played that inspired for a very long time. Utah won't lose another game this year unlike your beloved cougars.

    As for Utah dropping out of the top 25, that won't happen because Utah will be fine at Notre Dame. But next week you'll all be on stating how terrible Utah's schedule is once again.

    Go Ute's...
    Utah 34 Notre Dame 17

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Nov. 8, 2010 12:20 a.m.

    @P. Sylvan

    Speaking of reality, how did BYU do @AFA? The cupcake got a beat down.

    No, BYU did not do better against WY @LES then Utah did on the road. Here's some research or (aka reality):

    Utah 30 WY 6
    Total Yards: Utah 431 WY 183

    vs.

    BYU 25 WY 20
    Total Yards: WY 173 BYU 298


    Next time you call people out try not to give your own opinion and pass it off as reality.

    Utah will most likely not get blown out by SDSU or BYU. Regardless how improved Heaps will be at the end of the year.

    Why?

    Well here's some reality:

    Since 2008 Utah is 31-4...
    All four loses to: #3, #6, #11, and #12 teams.
    The only two blowouts came against: #3 and #6 TCU

    The #1 defense in the nation, both years.

    How many blowouts for BYU in the same period:
    2008: @TCU and @Utah
    2009: 7-5 FSU and TCU @LES
    2010: @AFA, @FSU, @Utah State, @TCU


  • 3oflast4 Anchorage, AK
    Nov. 8, 2010 1:07 a.m.

    @theDeuce
    "Simply win your conference and that will answer all questions"

    Wow. This is smack coming from a yewt fan whose team has only ONE MWC championship in the past 5 yrs and in that same span has finished as low as 6th place?

    This is smack coming from a yewt fan whose team has averaged just lower than 3rd place in the MWC during the current coach's tenure?

    Look, I know you and all the other delusional yewt fans are bitter because you just got poked sharply in the eye by the stick of reality and are having a hard time swallowing the fact that your team is below average.

    It's probably even harder to swallow the fact that you were 40 pts worse than TCU while playing in the cozy home confines of Rice Chex stadium while BYU played them significantly tougher in Ft Worth and was actually IN the game for more than half of it.

    So you're not Rose Bowl material or judging by the looks of things, not even Las Vegas Bowl material. Look at the bright side, there's always 3rd place and the Poinsettia Bowl.

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    Nov. 8, 2010 2:54 a.m.

    Boise State better start making some noise and rattling some chains because I foresee them not only not getting to the NC game when they go undefeated, I don't even see them making a BCS game. Even though they are undefeated. Here is why.

    With today's BCS standings;

    NC Game
    #1 Oregon vs #2 Auburn

    Rose Bowl
    Wisconsin(or whichever Big Ten Champion) vs Stanford
    Reasoning: Rose Bowl takes care of their own and a PAC-10 team is desired over Boise State or TCU.

    Sugar Bowl
    LSU vs TCU
    Reasoning: Sugar Bowl would prefer LSU to any other at-large team as a replacement for the SEC champ.

    Orange Bowl
    Virginia Tech vs Big Ten runner-up (i.e. Ohio State)
    Reasoning: Boise State has already played and beaten Va. Tech and Orange must take ACC champion.

    Fiesta Bowl
    Nebraska vs Pittsburgh
    Reasoning: Fiesta has the Big 12 champion and the last at large selection and the Big East champion has to be invited somewhere.

    This really stinks but it is how the BCS is set to go. No double non-AQ teams this year.

    BSU you best hope for a miracle or two.

  • BSU Lehi, UT
    Nov. 8, 2010 9:09 a.m.

    I'm not a Ute fan anymore (BYU and BSU) but I will say I still think Utah is a great team, and they deserve to be top ten.

  • Utes21 Salt Lake City, ut
    Nov. 8, 2010 9:16 a.m.

    Ute fans and Y fans post stuff to heat up the rivalry, if you get your feelings hurt thats your fault. Thats what makes the rivalry fun trash talk, dont dish them out if you cant take it simple as that. I dont however hate byu and act like the bandwagon fans we saw on Saturday booing Wynn. Those fairweather fans are always on the side of winning then when the loss comes they are no where to be found. Those so called U fans or Y fans who post on here are just haters I admit that I have read your posts. Like hedge or sammyg you have nothing positive to say, all you do is constantly hate on the other team, thats not trash talk!
    Who honestly boos a college QB who has got you 8 wins in a row and #5 ranking? There are fans like that on both sides who ruin the rivalry. What coward accidently elbows a woman or pours beer on someone? Max Hall is lame but he was right about one thing some fans are classless and try to destroy a great thing. To them we dont need you! Go Utes!

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Nov. 8, 2010 2:23 p.m.

    They are still ranked to high. That hsould only last one more week.

  • P. Sylvan Redlands, CA
    Nov. 8, 2010 6:20 p.m.

    uteology,

    Don't take it personally.

    I meant, UNLV, not Wyoming... English is my second language.

    Anser for me why Utah couldn't get it over the 50 til third quarter.

    Who is the better coach, Bronco or Kyle? Who had the most MWC championships before Utah bolted?

    Who has scoreboard?

    Who has 3 of 4?

    If Utah loses to SDSU and BYU, do they deserve 4th place in the MWC?

    Who has the most NC?

    Who has the Heisman?

    Why do you take Utah losses as an assault to your personal manhood, do you have a life?

    Then why do you care that Utah went to 15th?

    I think 15th is way higher than that weak team that showed up Saturday, ready to get grass stains over the back of those clean, new, jersys, that Bronco was ready to name with values, that the Ute fan's think are "New and Fresh".

    Finally, if BYU beats Utah, and goes 4 out of the last 5, is BYU the better team, regarless of whether or not you were admitted?

    The TCU spoke about Utah's heart.

    The BYU game... Will speak volumes.

    Deal with it.

  • Classless Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Nov. 8, 2010 8:43 p.m.

    P. Sylvan,

    I'd love to answer your questions.
    Who is the better coach, Bronco or Kyle? Kyle, cause he has more wins, more bowl wins, and has beat more ranked teams 5-2.

    Who had the most MWC championships before Utah bolted?
    BYU and Utah both have 4 MWC championships.

    Who has scoreboard? Utah, 50-31

    Who has 3 of 8? BYU, though I really wouldn't be bragging.

    Who has the most NC? Princeton, though I think that they all came before WW II.

    Who has the Heisman? Nissan, cause they are the sponsor?

    Finally, if BYU beats Utah, and goes 4 out of the last 5, is BYU the better team, regardless of whether or not you were admitted?

    IF BYU wins, then they will still be 18 games behind in the series and 5-5 the last decade. Utah wins, they be ahead by 20.

    Why is it that Utah haters have to come here and belittle fans of a great team like Utah? Payback? So, you became what you hate? Sad.

    Utah will likely end with 11-1 record and top 25 ranking. Not as great as I hoped for, but pretty good.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Nov. 8, 2010 10:14 p.m.

    As Utah fans so frequently remind us, without any hope of playing in a BCS game, Utah's season is over; the Utes have nothing left to play for.

    Top 25 rankings - meaningless

    10+ win seasons - meaningless

    non-BCS bowls - meaningless

    beating unranked teams - meaningless

    The Ute's season ended with the most embarrassing loss in Utah history.

    Wait until next year.

  • BYU 26 Utah 23 Anaheim, CA
    Nov. 8, 2010 10:45 p.m.

    Bronco has more MWC championships, more Top 25 finishes, and leads Kyle 3-2 head-to-head.

    Clearly Bronco is the better coach.

    BYU is 29-21 versus Utah in the last 50 years.

    Clearly, Utah got left behind back in the leather helmet days.

    College Football Hall of Fame inductees

    BYU
    Gifford Nielsen (QB), 1994
    Marc Wilson (QB), 1996
    Jim McMahon (QB), 1999
    Steve Young (QB), 2001
    LaVell Edwards (Head Coach), 2004
    Gordon Hudson (Tight End), 2009
    Larry Carr (Middle Linebacker), 2010

    Utah
    Ike Armstrong (Head Coach), 1957

    National Championships
    BYU 1
    Utah 0

    Heisman Trophies
    BYU 1
    Utah 0

    Top 25 Finishes
    BYU 17
    Utah 5

    WAC/MWC Championships
    BYU 23
    Utah 6

    Utah has a couple of BCS appearances, a bunch of head-to-head wins back in the leather helmet era, and nothing else.

    Clearly, by all measurements on a national scale, BYU is the dominant program.

  • Aggie Fan South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 9:11 a.m.

    @BYU 26 UTAH 23.

    Love it!

    @Utes21.

    Amen brotha! Bandwagon fans need to go away. Unfortunately there are more on the Utah side than the other side.

    I do understand them booing Wynn though. It's college, not high school. I think it's ok to let them know how you feel when they aren't playing well. Wynn isn't as good as people were trying to say. Terrence Cain would have given them a better chance to win on Saturday.

  • Scoreboard Anchorage, AK
    Nov. 9, 2010 1:26 p.m.

    @Classless Ute Fan

    You do yourself a disservice when you purposefully pick and choose which questions you're going to answer truthfully (or switch back and forth comparing Bronco and Kyle head to head then comparing BYU and Utah all time to avoid ugly truths) and automatically categorize yourself as a "Hater" instead of a true fan.

  • Wally West Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 3:26 p.m.

    I did not think the Utes would crash the BCS this yr. Those who did are delusional.

    That being said, I thought The Utes would lose to TCU just not by the margin it was.

    #15 seems equitable.

    If Tulsa can beat Notre Dame then so can the U. I know there are zoobs out there who think Utah will be overwhelemed playing in South Bend.

    Whit got the team ready to play Bama in NOLA which is for all intents was a home game for the tide. So, playing the Irish w/o Crist, Allen, & Floyd theoretically shouldn't be too hard.

    Further, The Utes D practices against the same scheme so I say Utes 37 Irish 23.

  • Wally West Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 9:23 a.m.

    re: TheVoice | 2:51 p.m. Nov. 7, 2010

    Really? 3-9?

    You did notice they have 2 bye weeks in a row after the USC game.