It looks like the 2 coaches are trying to out-praise the other.These 2 schools are really the top 2 in MWC--the so-called tier 1Tier-2: AFA, SDSUTier-3: BYU and the rest of the conference
Nice to see BYU, a former NC, relegated to a Tier 3 status by SoCalUtesFan. It
must really mean something to these Ute fans to run down a historic program like
BYU's in an off year. It's just one season, it's temporary and accepted but it's
not current news nor has it any historical significance.The BIG news
is the game this weekend. It's ALL or nothin' for TCU and the Utes. It's going to be a slugfest for the brass ring, a probable ticket to a big BCS
game but I doubt the NC. Unless the AQ teams really lose their composure it just
doesn't look good for the MWC champs. Still a lot of football to be played and
any given team can pull off an upset.So this weekend the BCS boys
will see one team eliminated from the nasty formula they are trying to balance.
Look for the BCS to appease last year's backslap by pitting BSU and TCU against
other teams to save some face.Sorry Utes, keep dreamin'
@ sammygThe BCS has so much egg on its face that we have proof
already that it couldn't care less about "saving face." Just watch. Whoever wins
between Utah and TCU will play Boise State in a BCS, non-NC game. Put money on
it. That way the BCS will again dismiss these teams as "ugly sisters" whom they
were compelled to include somehow in the BCS end-of-year celebrations. Two or three years from now the only college football fans who will remember
the year that three non-BCSers were in the top five will reside in Idaho, Utah,
and a little community outside Dallas.
sammyg,"A historic program like BYU's..."You're correct.
The only thing remarkable about BYU's program is its quarter-century old
"history."Other "historical" programs include: SMU, Houston,
Pittsburgh, Washington, Georgia Tech, Maryland, and other perennial cellar
dwellers.Unfortunately for Cougar fans, no one respects ancient
@ SammygYou are right. BYU's program is historic.. with an empahsis
on history. Now, moving on to this decade.Utah is looking at a
possible 3 undefeated seasons and 3 BCS conference bowl wins in the last seven
years. Not bad.. not bad at all. No wonder the PAC 10 looked to Utah to expand
their conference. We're not dreamin.. we're living the dream.TCU is
ranked #4 for a reason, and beating them won't be easy. Then again, beating
Alabama 31-17 to cap the 2008 schedule and finish #2 wasn't easy either. I
wouldn't count the UTE's out quite yet.To the UTE haters: Sorry
dudes. You're going to be a frustrated lot for a long time to come. Utah is
getting nothing but better. Wynn's only a sophomore and recruiting will be great
in the PAC12. But Don't you worry, the TDS will be back to a solid .500 program
in no time.Big Game This Saturday. Utah by 3.GO
sammyg, please let the NC thing go! It was like a 100 yrs ago and really the
last 5 or so is all that matters. Can't keep living off things that happened
long ago....live in the now!
Pretty hilarious to see all the Cougar fans like sammyg and counter intelligence
out trolling the Utah articles, again.What boys, nothing interesting
happening in your program? Not stoked for the big UNLV game this Saturday?I guess I can't blame you for being so obsessed with Utah...
Go Utes!!! It's great to have a Team in Utah that has a chance for a National
Championship. TCU is a great team, but so is Utah and they have TCU at home
which I think will be the difference. Utah by 5
@ Counter Intelligence Interesting comments about "petty Ute fans who seem to
hate BYU"I read a lot of sports articles in the Deseret News, and what I
observe is that Utah fans tease and poke fun of BYU fans. But, On the other
side, BYU fans quite often express 'hatred' and anger and loathing for the UTAH
fans. I would ask you....who is it the really hates who?
May the best team win! My prediction is that TCU will will by less than 2
touchdowns. I think they have a better defense and their more mature qb will
handle pressure better. I think that of the two teams, TCU has the best chance
of a NC game appearance if the stars align. For all you no class commenters;
Graduate from Junior High School already and show some class. Yes BYU is having
an off year. They will be back. Utah is having a great year and are definitely
on an upswing now. We are all proud of them. Both teams have a lot more class
than is being shown by some of your comments.
Goodtimes, counting your redtailed chickens before they hatch?Moving
on to this decade (2010 is the 1st year of the decade, btw):Utah is
8-0, #6/#6 in the polls, with lots of potential, but no significant wins against
the 98th softest schedule to date:Pittsburgh 5-3UNLV 1-7New Mexico 0-8San Jose St 1-8Iowa St 5-4Wyoming 2-7Colo St 3-6Air Force 5-4Combined record of Utah opponents to
date 22-47Yes, I know, it's considered "jealous hating" when you
simply state facts to our overly sensitive friends on the hill.
All you Utah fans sound like teenagers talking to their parents and claiming
that 70s, 80s, and even 90s were ancient history. Just look at the
Wittinham/Mendenhall years, if you don't want to look at earlier years. How many
times has Bronco beat Kyle? Three out of five.
Last 5 years:2006 #16/#15 BYU(11-2) 1st, unranked Utah(8-5) 3rd; BYU
33-312007 #14/#15 BYU(11-2) 1st, unranked Utah(9-3) 3rd; BYU 17-102008 #25/#21 BYU(10-3) 3rd, #2/#4 Utah(13-0) 1st; Utah 48-242009 #12/#12
BYU(11-2) 2nd, #18/#18 Utah(10-3) 3rd; BYU 26-23 2010 unranked BYU(3-5)
TBD, #6/#6 Utah(8-0) TBD; TBDTop 25 FinishesBYU 4Utah 2
+ TBDMWC ChampionshipsBYU 2Utah 1 + TBDBYU
is going through a rebuilding year and Utah is having a great year, so far.BYU just finished their 2nd decade with 5 or more Top 25 finishes.Utah has never done that.Beat TCU and finish with a national
championship and Utah will move into elite status, at least for this decade.Lose to TCU and Utah risks finishing with another good, but not great
Love it "anti BCS". You make more sense than anyone on here. I love how Utah
fans think they are really that good this year. You haven't played anyone. I
would love to see Utah win Saturday, but it isn't going to happen. Jordan Wynn
will be exposed as the average QB he really is. Terrance Cain is better than
Wynn, but that's besides the point. Wynn, please step into a pass this year when
someone is about to hit you and quit running away and throwing off your back
foot. You won't be able to throw off your back and not get picked in this game.
It's true Utah fans. BYU has beaten you 3 of 4 years. 1 year doesn't change the
fact that Utah has a better program. Good luck on Saturday, you will need it.
"A historic program like BYU's..."Yes, this is a correct
statement.BYU football program is the 20th century story.Utah football program is a great story of this century. And will continue as
such.And this year is not just "an off year". It will be the
start of the down-hill slide from now on.BYU is going down the same path
with Notre Dame.
A Hostess Twinkie toast to the Utes for running the gauntlet of cupcakes thus
far. AFA was your toughest game so far this season and you're about
to open a whole can of 'you know what' this weekend. Let the
beatings begin!TCU by 14. I can hear the 'buh bye' from
the BCS boys already.There will be extra psychiatric help and shock
therapy for those 'special' fans that need some mental support for the remaining
season after Saturday's game. I'll do what I can from this end for
moral support.And just to help you Ute fans along, there is more
football next week, then next week, AND THEN there's that BYU game too! Football will never be the same after this year. Enjoy it while it
Wow!The tds bitterness and jealousy is just oozing for one post to
the next. So much for the moral high ground. At some point in the near future
you’ll crawl back under your rock and live the life you’ve been
destined to — an independent Mid- Major.
SammyG: Thanks for bringing up 1984 AGAIN! Come into this CENTURY!! Can't wait
for November 27 when we will be your host and you will be our Hostess!!Thanks for your predictions. You have never been correct on a single one! So I
feel comfortable about our chances this weekend. Are you going to be able to
swallow your hate next week and give us our due like you promised if we win? "It's just one season, it's temporary and accepted but it's not current
news nor has it any historical significance." In the last 17 years, you had 5
ending rankings, two at 25 and your highest was 12. No BCS games and your coach
has a 3-2 bowl record, ALL in Vegas with no bowl this year! Hardly temporary
considering this is the first year of mostly total Bronko recruited players. 17
years is a trend, a pattern, not temporary!! Now you have WAC "independence"!Good luck this weekend against the .... who are you playing? Never mind,
No one cares!! Whoever you are playing, you will need luck. No more help for you
from the booth officials!!Go Utes!! Squash the Toads!!
I think that's the first Hostess joke I've heard from a BYU fan. Congrats on
Sorry, I said the last 17 years, I should have said since 1996, which would make
this the 15th season, not 17th. Anyway, you get the idea!Hello
SammyG! Let me introduce you to the 21st century, I believe you two have never
met!Go Utes!! Squash the toads! Make Sammy cry!!
Hedge hog...Spit take here.Moral high ground?From Hedge?In 5 years, the BCS will be gone.Mid-major
is a term used in American Division I college sports. While many believe the
term "mid-major" was originally coined by the "sports media" in order to
distinguish between BCS and non-BCS conference teams, it was actually coined in
1977 (more than two decades before the development of the BCS) by Jack Kvancz,
head coach of Catholic University's mens basketball team. Indeed, such a
distinction is not officially acknowledged by the National Collegiate Athletics
Association, nor does the NCAA use the terms "major" and "mid-major" to
differentiate between Division I athletics conferences.So keep using
the meaningless term. It just gives you all the more credibility.
@P. Sylvan I am very impressed that you can "google" this and copy
and paste from Wiki.I just simply put it:--> mid-major:
football programs like BYU, UNLV, Wyoming, CSU, Central Florida, etc--> major: Utah, USC, UCLA, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, etc
# of comments on an article completely about Utah before a yewtie posts about
byu: 0 - right about average.Doesn't matter how good
utah is or how bad byu is(and yes byu is really bad this year), the focus
will always be on BYU.
As we've seen so many times, the ancient history, come-into-this-century
argument only applies when Utah fans are talking about football.Mention basketball, and 1998 is like yesterday, and don't forget that NCAA
title from way back in 1944 (Isn't that 40 years before 1984?), and all of those
Sweet Sixteens and Final Fours FROM LAST CENTURY!Of course, their
entire argument that a program is only relevant based on what the program has
done in the last 10 years is completely bogus.Try convincing fans
across the country that Utah's football history is more relevant than Notre
Dame's football history, and Utah fans will be laughed to scorn.Notre Dame's last National Championship, btw, was 1988; only four years after
BYU's National Championship.Utah football is the johnny-come-lately,
new kid on the block showing off a couple of shiney new trophies, while the
wiley old veteran nods approvingly knowing he has a trophy case full of awards
that dwarf the new kid's awards by comparison.
@anti BCSYou make the same arguments that D Harmon brought up trying
to prove that BYU deserved Pac-12 invite more than Utah.Cold hard
fact: Utah has been to BCS twice winning both times. BYU usually disappeared off
the top-15 BCS by 6th or 7th game--ie becoming irrelevant.This
year's Utah team is on the verge of something big--very big, that even a
self-declared elite team like BYU was never there.If Utah is to make
to the NC game, its opponent will be an excellent team from one of the power
conferences with at most 1 loss--unlike 26 years ago a self-declared NC team
played a 6-5 team in its bowl game to end its season undefeated.Ciao
Can the beat down by the Frogs please hurry-up!Horned Frogs by at
Posts on this article 26posts by Utah fans 14Love the non-Ute
love. Keep coming by and showing how important Utah is to you. Anti-BCS,Lose to TCU and Utah risks finishing with another good, but not
great season... So essentially they would be like BYU on a good year?Sammy,And just to help you Ute fans along, there is more
football next week, then next week, AND THEN there's that BYU game too! But to the players, only this game counts... Cause if you don't play the
current game and you are thinking of the next game, you'll probably get beat.
Utah will be focused on THIS game. We'll start to worry about Notre Dame
Saturday night. However, after this Saturday, SDSU is the next toughest game.Ted H.# of comments on an article completely about Utah before a
yewtie posts about byu:how about we go through the Utah articles and
see how many articles don't have Ted H posting on them... actually it sounds
boring to me.