I think I'd sit Hayward for a few games while the veterans try and find their
rhythmn. It's hard to introduce so many new parts to the machine when one of the
parts is lost and unproven.
This is one thing (about the only thing) I will miss about Boozer. He was able
to vocally motivate the team without embarrassing them.Bad move
D-Will, you two need to sort this out quick. Meanwhile, who will step up to be
the vocal leader. Millsap? Raja?
These two are obviously commited to Utah winning, good for them for having a
discussion to resolve the problem.
I like DW as a player, but it's stuff like this that makes it hard for me to
fully embrace him. He seems like one of those bully jocks that's used to getting
his way by acting like some puffed up alpha male. Brawn AND brains,
D-Will, it takes brawn AND brains.
what would stockton have done?just sayin. someone is becoming a fat
head. hope it was just a fluke.
Everybody just chill out!! Sloan said it best that they both were sort of
wrong. Everyone sometimes over reacts when under stress. I am sure that D-will
and Hayward got together laster and worked things out. Kudos for Hayward
catching the ball and making it count.Don't count the Jazz out yet--they
will gel into a good team.
"You better be nicer to me" - John Stockton to Karl Malone early in their
Deron needs to grow up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I saw
Hayward defending ALOT better then Deron last night. I saw Hayward
running the floor AND getting back on defense.Deron? Not so much.
In fact go watch the play where he got ticked at Hayward for not running
through/crossing down low. Deron had walked/slow-jogged the ball up the court.
Great.Deron was in this funk last year at times and I'm not sure if
he knows it but when he does not run the ball up the floor/get early offense we
lose.I can guarantee we lose the majority of our games when Deron
goes through these phases when he walks the ball up the floor. Not sure if he
was sick, injured, or has personal issues distracting his focus.DERONs performance the first two games has been ALOT more disappointing than
Haywards! Deron is supposed to be the leader and the motor behind
this offense and when you are walking it up the floor and sill jacking up
jumpshots (despite being 0-5) then maybe he needs to re evaluate his
criticisms.Fix your own issues Deron.
Who made DWill the coach? Truth is, AK was responsible for most of the second
half points in one way or another. Hayward will come along. He is talented &
will find his nitch. DW needs to start looking for someone other than Boozer
now. Also, wouldn't it have been nice to have a few 3 pointers from Korver last
night? Who is the bozo that traded him?
I actually thought the play was diagrammed that way. It worked pretty good
actually. We got an easy layup out of it.
This incident was only made worse by D-Will's frustrations at himself and the
refs. I don't think he should've done so publicly, especially to a rookie.
Hayward will be fine, but this should have been addressed after the game and
behind closed doors. As for Korver.......Raja is just as good of a
3pt shooter, he was just off big time last night, as was Williams and Jefferson.
Give him time, he'll catch on fire eventually. If D-Will decides to start
creating more plays instead of walking around the top of the key, our team will
be better off.
I love DWill as much as anyone, but I was disappointed in his behavior last
night. There are 100 ways to better handle the situation.
A team captain must win respect in a different way than DWill.I wish he
apologized to Hayward. That is what a grown up should do.
that would be hard to be chewed out, hayward will be fine but i wonder if he
will have deep bad feelings for williams and not show it until he is a free
Deron's actions were immature. A rookie made a mistake, can you imagine? Deron
needs to hold himself accountable before he starts throwing tantrums on the
court on national television.
Come on D-Will, you would not want a player to embarrass you like that. Point
out flaws after the game in the locker room or practice. By the way, this team
has a lot of flaws right now. I can understand being frustrated. As a fan I am
frustrated watching the soft play. Nobody setting picks and screens. Bad
execution on offense and defense. Nobody taking charges and the fouls are weak!
This team plays soft! Try and "Debo" someone when they drive the lane. If you
are going to foul, make sure you make it count! Start moving with out the ball,
and for hell sake, shoot the open shot and quit with the hesitation. Try and get
into a rhythm early. Maybe bring AK off the bench and play the 4. Show more
hustle and desire to compete on every play.
@old dadUm, no one traded Korver. He was a free agent and he signed
with the Bulls.
I agree with the posts here, Deron needs to fix all his rookie mistakes before
he calls someone out on theirs. However, being a ball player myself when you are
struggling you get frustrated and into the game and he just lost his cool. I
haven't seen Deron do this too much but more than I'd like, most superstars do
that to their players though. Kobe has chewed out more than his fair
share of players, just comes with the territory. I just say do it on games that
you back it up with your play. Deron needs to be the one sparking the team
early, cause no one else is. Getting down by that many points early makes it
hard to win.
I never saw the flawless set up of a pick by Jefferson. Williams did not wait
for it, or the timing is way off. There was a strange form tothe usual
plays that the Jazz run.During times like last night, these players need
Sloan to motivate them and to be angry. Now he sits there acting
like he is drinking Mathews.Why did they not play the real hustler in
I meant he sits there like he is drinking Kool-Aid at the church social in
Old Dad: "wouldn't it have been nice to have a few 3 pointers from Korver last
night? Who is the bozo that traded him?" Uh, Korver signed a free
agent contract with Chicago.
The hilarious thing was that it looked like a designed play, and resulted in a
bucket. I thought DW was frustrated at either something on the other end, or at
someone else not Hayward on the O end.At first, I thought he had
barked at Millsap. Obv he's frustrated and Kobe does this all the time, just
like how MJ, Magic, Zeke, & Bird did.No big deal, this ain't women's
soccer, all we need is a couple wins. Glad that Hayward showed some spunk and
Hayward needs to hit a shot once in a while then no one will scream at him. I
particularly liked the one he shot off the side of the backboard.
Or D-Wills air ball? the whole team is out of sync.
Dwill should be yelling at him. They are professional players. He should know
when to cut and when to stay. Good job Dwill. Now go rip on CJ for being lazy.
Just goes to show what kind of leader Deron really is.He was on his
2nd pathetic game in a row so he publicly goes after a rookie?Very
impressive Torrey Ellis!Grow up.Deron looked like he
hadn't played ball since he got worked by the Lakers last playoff season. How about SHOWING the rookie you can to play first then you have some
basis to get after people Deron.Hayward was working hard and trying
hard the ENTIRE time he was on the floor.My guess is that Deron was
frustrated my by his own play and acted out immaturely by going after a rookie.
Wow Deron/Torrey you are a tough guy alright.
Not a bad idea at all....CJ just does not cut it. What did he contribute to the
game last night except an embarrasing loss. Hayward is a huge surprise...he
steps up and does the job. He will be a huge asset to the Jazz.
The Sun's ran the pick and role better than we did. That's our signature play!
How embarrassing! Jefferson looked pretty lame last night too.
bench d will. you've got to be kidding me.
Wow, I just watched the replay of this on YouTube and can see that everyone on
here is taking this way out of hand. How many of you have ever played
competitive basketball. I played in both High School and College. Basketball is
an emotional game, people show frustration. Yes, it's true Gordon Hayward is a
rookie but he still needs to run the plays. You all say how bad Deron has been
playing but don't realize he's a Point Guard. Poitn Guard's rely on their
teammates to run the offense by screening, being in the right places, and
cutting. The Jazz offense has obviously been out of sync because of so many new
faces. I guarantee if this team were running their offense smoother and got a
flow going you would all see improved stats from D-Will. He is trying to get
this team to flow through the offense. D-Will is the Captain, and is an
extremely proven player in this league he has the right to get onto another
player no matter who he is. If you rewatch the play, you'll see he only showed
frustration toware the play,not Hayward!
Fans always have a way of making mountains out of mole hills. But then, this is
also true of Buckley once in a while. This is a non-story.
The walking man: It will be a long season if Deron continues to walk the ball up
the court. It's good to see Hayward run the floor and put forth some
Thank you one and all armchair point guards. Part of Sloans pay will be deducted
and you all will recieve a little in your envelope..
D-Will is the team captain and was mad that a player didn't run the play
properly. Frankly I'm glad to see D-Will cares about the poor performance
overall and I want to see him show that fire and emotion on the floor, Hayward's
a big boy and I'm sure he's had coaches yell at him before when he didn't do
what he was supposed to do. I'm sure they talked it over after the game and when
this team gets rolling no one will ever remember this little skiff. If you want
less emotion displayed you can always go watch BYU play football and see Bronco
on his headphones acting like a little girl scout. Sorry to throw a little gas
on BYU's troubles:)
I can see a lot of the fans have a man crush on Hayward. The guy scored 6
points and didn't run the right plays on numerous occasions. You think Deron
was lashing out because of just one play? Hayward is constantly confused.Deron is a proven point guard. He knows the playbook back and forth and he
just wants guys to get better fast. He wants film sessions so everybody can
learn what the problems are. I can't fault Deron for wanting to win and being
frustrated with poor play.
Hayward is leading the team in blocked shots. I love AK but he is even looking
like he has no drive to win. The whole team looks out of sync. I agree with some
of the other guys Jerry needs to sit out a few of the new guys including Watson.
Ronnie should have been playing more since he knows the system. We should not
have had more than two new guys on the court at a time.
D-Will wants out and who could blame him.He is too good for this
organisation. He actually wants to win a title.
YOU ARE ALL MISSING THE ESSENCE OF D-WILL'S FRUSTRATION. It's not the fact that
Gordon can't remember the plays, or that he doesn't run the floor... IT'S THAT
HE'S IN THE GAME AT ALL!! We have plenty of capable 2s, 3s, 4s. Why is Hayward
getting time? When D-Will was a rookie he had to sit behind...KEITH MCLEOD?!?!
Deron's true frustration is with Sloan, not Hayward. But he doesn't dare huck a
basketball at Sloan.
The dishonest thing is that Williams was trying deflect attention from his own
pathetic game. Williams is Mr. hot and cold, he can torch you one night, and
stink it up the next. Or he can fumble around for three quarters then light it
up in one. I don't have much faith in Williams, and he is far from being an
If Deron has behavior issues look to his coach for great lessons in yelling.The public address announcer makes public announcements about no
swearing at the games and everyone....except the coach.. is expected to abide by
that rule.And stop crying about Korver. On Chicago highlights I saw
Korver lose the ball and chase a guy down the floor who dunked it on him. I saw
that and another time when he tried to dribble and irt went off his foot. As
Jazz fans we in no way need to have that back again....ever.The Jazz
organization had every chence to re-sign Kyle and it was obvious he was too big
a liability and the other 4 on the floor could not overcome his shortcomings.
The team is better off where they are now and that is without him. When it came
to crunch time agsinst the Lakers and Nuggets in the playoffs he was utterly
transparent and did not help a bit.