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Utah Jazz: Deron Will, Gordon Hayward cite 'miscommunication' for flare-up

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  • desertsage Saint George, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 12:35 p.m.

    I think I'd sit Hayward for a few games while the veterans try and find their rhythmn. It's hard to introduce so many new parts to the machine when one of the parts is lost and unproven.

  • Thriller Saint George, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 12:35 p.m.

    This is one thing (about the only thing) I will miss about Boozer. He was able to vocally motivate the team without embarrassing them.

    Bad move D-Will, you two need to sort this out quick. Meanwhile, who will step up to be the vocal leader. Millsap? Raja?

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 12:46 p.m.

    These two are obviously commited to Utah winning, good for them for having a discussion to resolve the problem.

  • aljmac Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 1:00 p.m.

    I like DW as a player, but it's stuff like this that makes it hard for me to fully embrace him. He seems like one of those bully jocks that's used to getting his way by acting like some puffed up alpha male.

    Brawn AND brains, D-Will, it takes brawn AND brains.

  • manutd Milford, CT
    Oct. 29, 2010 1:04 p.m.

    what would stockton have done?

    just sayin. someone is becoming a fat head. hope it was just a fluke.

  • Bearone Monroe, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 1:12 p.m.

    Everybody just chill out!! Sloan said it best that they both were sort of wrong. Everyone sometimes over reacts when under stress. I am sure that D-will and Hayward got together laster and worked things out. Kudos for Hayward catching the ball and making it count.
    Don't count the Jazz out yet--they will gel into a good team.

  • snakenamedjoe Ogden, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 1:18 p.m.

    "You better be nicer to me"
    - John Stockton to Karl Malone early in their careers.

  • MOTO X Alpine, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 1:33 p.m.

    Deron needs to grow up. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I saw Hayward defending ALOT better then Deron last night.

    I saw Hayward running the floor AND getting back on defense.

    Deron? Not so much. In fact go watch the play where he got ticked at Hayward for not running through/crossing down low. Deron had walked/slow-jogged the ball up the court. Great.

    Deron was in this funk last year at times and I'm not sure if he knows it but when he does not run the ball up the floor/get early offense we lose.

    I can guarantee we lose the majority of our games when Deron goes through these phases when he walks the ball up the floor. Not sure if he was sick, injured, or has personal issues distracting his focus.

    DERONs performance the first two games has been ALOT more disappointing than Haywards!

    Deron is supposed to be the leader and the motor behind this offense and when you are walking it up the floor and sill jacking up jumpshots (despite being 0-5) then maybe he needs to re evaluate his criticisms.

    Fix your own issues Deron.

  • old dad South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 1:40 p.m.

    Who made DWill the coach? Truth is, AK was responsible for most of the second half points in one way or another. Hayward will come along. He is talented & will find his nitch. DW needs to start looking for someone other than Boozer now. Also, wouldn't it have been nice to have a few 3 pointers from Korver last night? Who is the bozo that traded him?

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 29, 2010 1:42 p.m.

    I actually thought the play was diagrammed that way. It worked pretty good actually.
    We got an easy layup out of it.

  • Duds Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 1:53 p.m.

    This incident was only made worse by D-Will's frustrations at himself and the refs. I don't think he should've done so publicly, especially to a rookie. Hayward will be fine, but this should have been addressed after the game and behind closed doors.

    As for Korver.......Raja is just as good of a 3pt shooter, he was just off big time last night, as was Williams and Jefferson. Give him time, he'll catch on fire eventually. If D-Will decides to start creating more plays instead of walking around the top of the key, our team will be better off.

  • MarkA Logan, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 2:00 p.m.

    I love DWill as much as anyone, but I was disappointed in his behavior last night. There are 100 ways to better handle the situation.

  • real #1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    A team captain must win respect in a different way than DWill.
    I wish he apologized to Hayward. That is what a grown up should do.

  • cedar Holladay, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 2:13 p.m.

    that would be hard to be chewed out, hayward will be fine but i wonder if he will have deep bad feelings for williams and not show it until he is a free agent.

  • randal Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 2:37 p.m.

    Deron's actions were immature. A rookie made a mistake, can you imagine? Deron needs to hold himself accountable before he starts throwing tantrums on the court on national television.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 3:00 p.m.

    Come on D-Will, you would not want a player to embarrass you like that. Point out flaws after the game in the locker room or practice. By the way, this team has a lot of flaws right now. I can understand being frustrated. As a fan I am frustrated watching the soft play. Nobody setting picks and screens. Bad execution on offense and defense. Nobody taking charges and the fouls are weak! This team plays soft! Try and "Debo" someone when they drive the lane. If you are going to foul, make sure you make it count! Start moving with out the ball, and for hell sake, shoot the open shot and quit with the hesitation. Try and get into a rhythm early. Maybe bring AK off the bench and play the 4. Show more hustle and desire to compete on every play.

  • Mean Mr. Mustard Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 3:15 p.m.

    @old dad

    Um, no one traded Korver. He was a free agent and he signed with the Bulls.

  • deno22 Rexburg, ID
    Oct. 29, 2010 3:20 p.m.

    I agree with the posts here, Deron needs to fix all his rookie mistakes before he calls someone out on theirs. However, being a ball player myself when you are struggling you get frustrated and into the game and he just lost his cool. I haven't seen Deron do this too much but more than I'd like, most superstars do that to their players though.

    Kobe has chewed out more than his fair share of players, just comes with the territory. I just say do it on games that you back it up with your play. Deron needs to be the one sparking the team early, cause no one else is. Getting down by that many points early makes it hard to win.

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Oct. 29, 2010 4:04 p.m.

    I never saw the flawless set up of a pick by Jefferson. Williams did not wait for it, or the timing is way off. There was a strange form to
    the usual plays that the Jazz run.
    During times like last night, these players need
    Sloan to motivate them and to be angry. Now he
    sits there acting like he is drinking Mathews.
    Why did they not play the real hustler in Evans?

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Oct. 29, 2010 4:30 p.m.

    I meant he sits there like he is drinking Kool-Aid at the church social in Illinois.

  • the world Woods Cross, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 4:59 p.m.

    Old Dad: "wouldn't it have been nice to have a few 3 pointers from Korver last night? Who is the bozo that traded him?"

    Uh, Korver signed a free agent contract with Chicago.

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 5:02 p.m.

    The hilarious thing was that it looked like a designed play, and resulted in a bucket. I thought DW was frustrated at either something on the other end, or at someone else not Hayward on the O end.

    At first, I thought he had barked at Millsap. Obv he's frustrated and Kobe does this all the time, just like how MJ, Magic, Zeke, & Bird did.

    No big deal, this ain't women's soccer, all we need is a couple wins. Glad that Hayward showed some spunk and chirped back.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 5:26 p.m.

    Hayward needs to hit a shot once in a while then no one will scream at him. I particularly liked the one he shot off the side of the backboard.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 5:57 p.m.

    Or D-Wills air ball? the whole team is out of sync.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Oct. 29, 2010 6:25 p.m.

    Dwill should be yelling at him. They are professional players. He should know when to cut and when to stay. Good job Dwill. Now go rip on CJ for being lazy.

  • H2OSKI Alpine, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 7:29 p.m.

    Just goes to show what kind of leader Deron really is.

    He was on his 2nd pathetic game in a row so he publicly goes after a rookie?

    Very impressive Torrey Ellis!

    Grow up.

    Deron looked like he hadn't played ball since he got worked by the Lakers last playoff season.

    How about SHOWING the rookie you can to play first then you have some basis to get after people Deron.

    Hayward was working hard and trying hard the ENTIRE time he was on the floor.

    My guess is that Deron was frustrated my by his own play and acted out immaturely by going after a rookie. Wow Deron/Torrey you are a tough guy alright.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 7:37 p.m.

    Not a bad idea at all....CJ just does not cut it. What did he contribute to the game last night except an embarrasing loss. Hayward is a huge surprise...he steps up and does the job. He will be a huge asset to the Jazz.

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 29, 2010 11:02 p.m.

    The Sun's ran the pick and role better than we did. That's our signature play! How embarrassing! Jefferson looked pretty lame last night too.

  • Snack Pack Lehi, UT
    Oct. 30, 2010 6:09 a.m.

    bench d will. you've got to be kidding me.

  • GregH Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 30, 2010 7:27 a.m.

    Wow, I just watched the replay of this on YouTube and can see that everyone on here is taking this way out of hand. How many of you have ever played competitive basketball. I played in both High School and College. Basketball is an emotional game, people show frustration. Yes, it's true Gordon Hayward is a rookie but he still needs to run the plays. You all say how bad Deron has been playing but don't realize he's a Point Guard. Poitn Guard's rely on their teammates to run the offense by screening, being in the right places, and cutting. The Jazz offense has obviously been out of sync because of so many new faces. I guarantee if this team were running their offense smoother and got a flow going you would all see improved stats from D-Will. He is trying to get this team to flow through the offense. D-Will is the Captain, and is an extremely proven player in this league he has the right to get onto another player no matter who he is. If you rewatch the play, you'll see he only showed frustration toware the play,not Hayward!

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Oct. 30, 2010 8:44 a.m.

    Fans always have a way of making mountains out of mole hills. But then, this is also true of Buckley once in a while. This is a non-story.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Oct. 30, 2010 8:44 a.m.

    The walking man: It will be a long season if Deron continues to walk the ball up the court.

    It's good to see Hayward run the floor and put forth some effort.

  • LKA Tremonton, UT
    Oct. 30, 2010 9:18 a.m.

    Thank you one and all armchair point guards. Part of Sloans pay will be deducted and you all will recieve a little in your envelope..

  • redcliffs Ivins, Utah
    Oct. 30, 2010 9:45 a.m.

    D-Will is the team captain and was mad that a player didn't run the play properly. Frankly I'm glad to see D-Will cares about the poor performance overall and I want to see him show that fire and emotion on the floor, Hayward's a big boy and I'm sure he's had coaches yell at him before when he didn't do what he was supposed to do. I'm sure they talked it over after the game and when this team gets rolling no one will ever remember this little skiff. If you want less emotion displayed you can always go watch BYU play football and see Bronco on his headphones acting like a little girl scout. Sorry to throw a little gas on BYU's troubles:)

  • Steve-o Ogden, UT
    Oct. 30, 2010 10:10 a.m.

    I can see a lot of the fans have a man crush on Hayward. The guy scored 6 points and didn't run the right plays on numerous occasions. You think Deron was lashing out because of just one play? Hayward is constantly confused.
    Deron is a proven point guard. He knows the playbook back and forth and he just wants guys to get better fast. He wants film sessions so everybody can learn what the problems are. I can't fault Deron for wanting to win and being frustrated with poor play.

  • forgetyourself Layton, UT
    Oct. 30, 2010 1:56 p.m.

    Hayward is leading the team in blocked shots. I love AK but he is even looking like he has no drive to win. The whole team looks out of sync. I agree with some of the other guys Jerry needs to sit out a few of the new guys including Watson. Ronnie should have been playing more since he knows the system. We should not have had more than two new guys on the court at a time.

  • the Mailman Melbourne, Victoria
    Oct. 30, 2010 8:50 p.m.

    D-Will wants out and who could blame him.

    He is too good for this organisation. He actually wants to win a title.

  • Big 'D' San Mateo, CA
    Nov. 1, 2010 12:02 a.m.

    YOU ARE ALL MISSING THE ESSENCE OF D-WILL'S FRUSTRATION. It's not the fact that Gordon can't remember the plays, or that he doesn't run the floor... IT'S THAT HE'S IN THE GAME AT ALL!! We have plenty of capable 2s, 3s, 4s. Why is Hayward getting time? When D-Will was a rookie he had to sit behind...KEITH MCLEOD?!?! Deron's true frustration is with Sloan, not Hayward. But he doesn't dare huck a basketball at Sloan.

  • dumprake Toquerville, UT
    Nov. 1, 2010 8:28 a.m.

    The dishonest thing is that Williams was trying deflect attention from his own pathetic game. Williams is Mr. hot and cold, he can torch you one night, and stink it up the next. Or he can fumble around for three quarters then light it up in one. I don't have much faith in Williams, and he is far from being an all-star.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Nov. 1, 2010 8:32 a.m.

    If Deron has behavior issues look to his coach for great lessons in yelling.

    The public address announcer makes public announcements about no swearing at the games and everyone....except the coach.. is expected to abide by that rule.

    And stop crying about Korver. On Chicago highlights I saw Korver lose the ball and chase a guy down the floor who dunked it on him. I saw that and another time when he tried to dribble and irt went off his foot. As Jazz fans we in no way need to have that back again....ever.

    The Jazz organization had every chence to re-sign Kyle and it was obvious he was too big a liability and the other 4 on the floor could not overcome his shortcomings. The team is better off where they are now and that is without him. When it came to crunch time agsinst the Lakers and Nuggets in the playoffs he was utterly transparent and did not help a bit.