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  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 12:05 a.m.

    It was a thing of beauty. From the beginning USU controlled the game on both offense and defense. The y was out coached, out quarterbacked and out maned. The Aggies made a very impressive turn around from six days ago in San Diego.

    Go Big Blue!!!

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 2, 2010 12:06 a.m.

    Attention Dick Harmon, did you really predict the Yners to score 28 points, they haven't score that much all year, nice job on your pompous biased articles.

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 2, 2010 12:06 a.m.

    At first it is really kinda funny to watch the Yners get smeared across the field. Then it just becomes so sad and pathetic I lose interest. So, are we seeing the first signs that Bronco really doesn't know how to recruit? Seriously, with the mission thing, 2004 was six years ago which would mean the previous coaches recruits have probably redshirted and moved out of the system by now leaving only Bronco recruits. It sure looks like his days of living off the previous coaches players is over. After all it is Bronco's fault why the previous coach lost his job, running that silly 3-3-5 defense that stopped nobody leading to the firing. And to think this season was your last chance to get to any bowl game.....and the Yners have blown it. Zero bowl ties next year, no outside chance that the Yners would ever go undefeated and end up ranked 1 or 2 to even have a shot at a BCS game. The big trip of the year will be Hawaii, have fun, aloha! Nevertheless, congrats Aggies! Now beat the donkeys!!

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 2, 2010 12:14 a.m.

    Dick is right that the Cougs play uninspired, a reflection of uninspired coaches. But more importantly, the individual players are just not as good or fast as their opponents, a reflection of recruiting which is a reflection of coaching.

    It's truly painful to see this train wreck. At times they look like a high school football team out there.

  • dallas aggie Minneapolis, MN
    Oct. 2, 2010 12:23 a.m.

    Great job Gary Andersen, team and fans! Loved every second of this game!

  • Flame of the West Tuktoyaktuk, NWT
    Oct. 2, 2010 12:30 a.m.

    ...weeping and wailing, and gnashing of teeth...

    Season over...put us in the Bottom 10 because that is were we belong...that was terrible. I can still be a cougar fan but time to cheer for alternate...Nebraska...GO BIG RED!

    still Loyal, Strong, and True

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 12:54 a.m.

    When Bronco has had upper class men to help he opt's for the freshman.

    Well you reap what you put out on the field coach. The chickens are now coming home and luv 'n it in Provo.

  • badlandscougar Pine Ridge, SD
    Oct. 2, 2010 3:00 a.m.

    mr harmon, the potential is there, i see it in the new players especially holt and mahina of the tight ends and others on the team. yeah, they are young but the future looks bright and i'm looking for some cool shades. execution execution and discipline.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Oct. 2, 2010 5:30 a.m.

    The results on the field can be pointed directly at Bronco. When the Y was crushing cupcakes last year, Y did bronco not get these "young" players into the game and grow depth? Y did Nelsen not play last year?

    Tds fans are giving bronco waaaaay to much of a free pass- he should be hung out to dry.

    BYU could be the worst team in the Nation.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 5:41 a.m.

    Problem is letting heaps throw for 54 times in the game.

    Mendenhall and BYU are the only ones in the entire nation who would not run more with that huge advantage on the offensive line. BYU would have won this game if they had better coaches. It should have been a running attack, wearing down the defensive front (an already depleted defense). Once again, BYU opts for tradition (80% pass 20% run) over common sense. I cannot understand who BYU gets any good running backs to go to that school.

  • Jim Marshall Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 6:00 a.m.

    I don't mean this as a snide remark, but didn't you write an article in august Mr. Harmon that said BYU's receivers this year were a Top 10 receving corps?

    Where has the talent gone. I'm serious. What is wrong with our receivers?

  • hosstalker Logan, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 6:19 a.m.

    Both teams reflected their coaches apparent passion or lack thereof. Anderson was a passionate cheerleader for his troops, Bronco - who knows what he was, emotionless, grim, stoic. The Aggies were aggressive, and full of go get 'em, the Cougars plodding and grim, stoic, lacking in enthusiasm. Part of the problem is over emphasis on 'developing' their star QB who is so absorbed in his own needs that he doesn't convey concern on the field for his fellow players. I could say team mates, but I'm not sure he knows he has team mates.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 6:57 a.m.

    Never has a program fallen so fast so far. Never has a BYU program sunk so low ..not in 90's, 80's, 70's. You would have to go back to 1960 when JFK was president the and hoola-hoop was the rage to see a BYU team this talent poor and toothless both on offense and defense. This ins't just some timing and execution issues...oh no that is way to easy to suggest that. This is the bare bones fact of the talent on the field and brethern it isn't there. Period. For most football savy fans it is easy to see. No running game what so ever. The O-line simply can't run block and that is both the fault of recruitment to conditioning and teaching technique. The backs are sub par as well. The receivers are good enough but they way out of wack right now because of the spotting QB play. Jake Heaps will be good ... next year. He has the arm .. just not the experience and field sense. The defensive line in TERRIBLE. Every team gets 6 -9 yards on first down rushing on average. Pathetic.

  • mtseatss Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 2, 2010 7:13 a.m.

    The beginning of the end . . . Many in the media praised Holmoe for his high risk venture into independence. Yet, while calling it high risk, few conceived that it could fail. High risk implies that there is a large potential down side. Losing? To Utah State?

    Fabricate all the excuses you wish, Utah had similar challenges last year with its freshman QB and it took BYU overtime to beat them on its home field and the Utes still finished with a 10 win season. By earning a spot in the PAC 10, Utah has done more than just beat their rival - with Holmoe's help, they've killed them. High risk means you can't lose 4 in row ending with Utah State and next week against SDSU is likely to be the 5th. Neither TCU nor Utah will need overtime to beat that team.

    Giddy over Holmoe's decisive post Utah PAC 10 action to independence, few ever thought for a moment that it could end up in disaster. ESPN is likely looking at their late Wednesday and Friday night line up for the 2011 BYU Cougars.





  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Oct. 2, 2010 7:27 a.m.

    You got to feel sorry for Nevada. They will probably fall out of the top 25 due to their plummiting SOS.

  • cougar76 Provo, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 7:31 a.m.

    BYU starts winning when the receivers start hanging on to the ball. Pitta and George made

  • What To Do Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 8:00 a.m.

    Hay Joe what happened to that big time prediction of yours. Maybe the rest of the year you can be more real in you comments and not so one sided.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 8:31 a.m.

    It's just too easy to say I told you so. Where, I wonder, are all the armchair coaches now who were so sure those big numbers Heaps put up in spring camp meant something? Don't feel too bad; these coaches bought into it just like you did. If there was ever a team lacking leadership, it's gotta be BYU. Here's the reality coaches Mendenhall, Doman and Anae: leadership has nothing to do with hype, a "me first" attitude, and a good throwing motion.

    Nelson is probably thanking his lucky stars he's out of the mess and Lark should tell them to clean up by themselves.

  • tron527 Provo, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 8:35 a.m.

    I think Bronco had the wrong approach calling the USU game unimportant a rivalry game should always be important. BYU has traditionally been able to shrug off early season and non-conference losses by focusing on winning a conference championship. Next year and beyond when there is no conference title to play for how will Bronco be able to motivate these kids if he can't even get them up for a rival? I guess the horrible schedules that will be the staple will help get some wins on the board but for this program 8-10 wins versus the Central Floridas of the world is a step backwards. I hope next year BYU will take USU seriously. I wonder how season ticket renewal will be next year?

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Oct. 2, 2010 8:40 a.m.

    1) I agree that USU was "hungrier" --and they should be. They struggled so far (ie 1-3 record before the game). I am very happy for coach Gary Andersen.

    2) BYU players did not abandon Bronco. They gave up on their coaching staff. Where is Ty Detmer?

    3) ESPN looked forward to this game sort as an introduction to its viewer the independent team that it just signed multi-year contract --well, let's say they are in for a loooooong contract.

    4) BYU receivers may run like Nissan ZX...but they can't catch the ball then run like Ferrari Enzos like Utah receivers

    Ciao

  • onewhoknows Providence, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 8:52 a.m.

    Everyone is so eager to blame byu's receivers, but after watching Heaps launch missiles all night I think some of the blame goes on him. I can't remember seeing a quarterback who throws the ball as hard as he does. He needs to learn how to put some touch on his passes. That said, way to go Aggies! It's been a long time coming.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Oct. 2, 2010 9:21 a.m.

    The vitriol from Utah fans is interesting (and continues to prove Maxie right). Keep serving it on up - yes, BYU has a bad team this year, but it is far from the end. What comes around goes around.

    To USU - you deserved the win. Your team fought hard and won easily, doing everything you needed to do to win. Congrats - now take it to BSU at the end of the season!

  • cougarlove Blanding, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 9:22 a.m.

    Please defense- again you saw the lack of speed from the linebackers in the middle-I understand the best one is out and will play next year, but what a waste of money on the other two middle guys. Hunter is tough and does the job- the rest of them what a joke.JOKE=defense JOKE!!!!!!! Byu coaches RUN the ball!!!!

  • Dannysaur Lansing, MI
    Oct. 2, 2010 9:39 a.m.

    People, give me a break about ESPN's doomed contract with BYU. Luckily none of you are making any decisions for an athletic program or broadcasting company.

    ESPN, and every other person with intelligence in this country, knows you can't judge a program off 5 games. ESPN contracted with BYU because they know BYU has a strong football history, has dedicated fans, and that people will schedule to play them. ESPN also knew it would take a couple years for BYU to work out a strong schedule, not a few weeks. Of course ESPN knows there will be rough patches -- what team doesn't have rough patches in an 8 year span?

    This is the worst BYU has been in 35 years, and yet you all talk as if this is the way BYU typically plays football. I hardly doubt that ESPN is worried about a 5 game span, or even 1 isolated season for that matter. If BYU plays like this for 4 years (half of their contract), then ESPN will begin thinking like that.

    And, by the way, I'm still figuring out Utah's Pac invite is a "victory" over BYU?

  • Oregon Ute Hermiston, OR
    Oct. 2, 2010 9:45 a.m.

    WOW. Harmon you are brutal to your cougs. One can sense the irritating frustration in your article. I have been impressed how you have always had the coaches backs but no more, it sounds like you are the coach. Glad Facer and Sorensen don't act this way when the Utes lose. Lighten up Dick.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 9:46 a.m.

    it wasn't Harman who said would be top 10 WR corps. It was Chambers who said that. Well, we will see if Chambers will show up after his 2 days suspension as a TE and get rid of those gloves kid. I have a bad feeling about SDSU, another loss again for Cougars. Harmon, if I were you, pick SDSU to win.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Oct. 2, 2010 9:51 a.m.

    Well, this was worse than I expected. The play calling was, frankly, pathetic. Here's what I noticed:

    1. Heaps has not learned to check down. He's still throwing at the primary receiver, covered or not.
    2. No tight ends
    3. Stacked box - can't dink and dunk with 10 guys in the box. Can't run either.
    4. Recievers can't make separation and can't catch.
    5. Defense running out of studs.

    Prediction: 3 wins this year maybe. But I don't know who we can beat. Everybody in the MWC looks tougher than BYU this year. Could wind up as 1-10. This team looks whipped and the coaches look scared. Somebody has to take control - the kids have to step up. I just don't know who has the talent and heart on this team to go forward from here.

    Could ruin Jake for all time. Or not. Who knows.

  • BoringGuy Holladay, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 9:55 a.m.

    I post this with sincerity. Please BYU, take a step back and take a long, hard look at yourself.

    You're going to end up with only two or three more wins this year. You may improve next year or you may not. Either way, where do you think ESPN will be showing your games? You won't get the exposure and recruiting to a losing program will be extremely difficult.

    I'm thinking LES will have a lot of empty seats and the whole program will have a horrible vibe. Do you think the BCS board is going to work with a 1-4 team when they meet next month?

    The point here is independence might be a bad idea at this time and the risks are too great. It's time to eat some crow and do what's ultimately best for all of BYU's sports. Basketball is still a bright spot and it's much better off in the MWC than WCC.

    If you've lost Harmon, you've lost the fanbase. It's time to go into survival mode -- not a place where you shouldn't be taking huge risks.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Oct. 2, 2010 10:10 a.m.

    Great win Aggies. You played with a lot of heart and passion. Hats off to the Aggie fans as well. Picking on the Y at this point would just be mean so I won't. All I'll say is "Go Aggies, and Go Utes."

  • JCFIII LANGLEY, WA
    Oct. 2, 2010 10:30 a.m.

    Tired of hearing that Heaps throws too hard. His receivers in High School didn't have any trouble catching his passes...D1 receivers have n o excuse. Heaps has no choice but to throw hard, as his receivers can't get any separation.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Oct. 2, 2010 10:39 a.m.

    There is some progress. The yards keep going up per game. The 3rd down conversions are going up to nearly 50%.

    The TEs made a couple of good catches and that really helped the offense for a while. Jacobson got involved. Hoffman continued. More receivers caught balls.


    Heaps did roll out and make a couple of passes. Heaps is trying to get the ball out fast so he is not sacked. The sacks are down. But because he is rushing he is not checking off and that is a major problem. Heaps is coming along. It will take a lot more time.

    BYU has to have it's whole offensive arsenal working to be effective. If the TEs do not get open the rest of the defense can be defended. The offense becomes even more predictable.

    Brandon Bradley ran down an RB from behind. There was no pressure on the QB but the defense does have some talent. The young LB/DBs can do it but like Heaps it is going to take some time.

    It can be turned around.

  • mosbyjim Vernal, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 11:08 a.m.

    BYU will get there in time. Got to have faith in them they are great players.

    As BYU fans we need to learn to be a little more humble and kind to others. No need to be so full of hate for other teams. It is not worth it!

    GO BYU! We love you!

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Oct. 2, 2010 11:16 a.m.

    @JCFIII

    "Tired of hearing that Heaps throws too hard. His receivers in High School didn't have any trouble catching his passes...D1 receivers have n o excuse. Heaps has no choice but to throw hard, as his receivers can't get any separation."

    I'm tired of hearing that it's all the receivers' fault. The fact is Heaps DOES throw too hard on the short passes. He doesn't need to throw a 60 mph ball on a 5-yard out. The reason his receivers in high school didn't have trouble is because he threw 10+ yards on every attempt...that's when you need to throw hard. But Heaps has NO touch, period.

    But one thing good will come from all this carnage: you Yners won't complain about 10-win seasons for a while.

  • aggie2010 Logan, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 11:20 a.m.

    Bugoff- Brandon Bradley ran down a third string (at least, possibly 4th or 5th) RB from behind. Our top 2 RB's didn't play. (Turbin out for the season, Smith out with turf toe).

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 11:48 a.m.

    This must win this game or the program is over is all media hype. Listen to your coach he has said this team is a work in progress that will take an entire season to develop. The thought was it may be able to win some games, but it now appears they are less talented and less skilled than even the head coach thought. The Y will be fine 3-8 this year 7-5 next 8-4 or 9-3 the next two and then another low year of below six wins. So, enjoy the game, root for your team and hope for better times. Like last night for the Aggies, once every 10 games are so isn't bad.

  • TizTheSeason logan, utah
    Oct. 2, 2010 1:04 p.m.

    Great job Aggies!
    I have seen a few of the true freshman QB's this year. I was expecting more out of Heaps to match the huge hype he carries. Clearly you can see that he makes his receivers work for their catches. There were only two that were thrown that the WR's could catch while on the run. He threw consistantly behind them on the close routes and hung the ball up forever on the deep balls. From what I have seen, BYU has a lot of work ahead of them starting with their #1 recruit. 'Stars,stripes'and rankings that we all heard about are not showing up for BYU this year. Since this is a "development year for the cougars, I would like to see Lark and Munns get their shot at it.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 1:08 p.m.

    What are all you Heaps excuse makers now saying. You all could not wait for this over hyped puff job to become the MAN and now you are seeing the boy behind the hype.

    Listen the "Y" does not need to buy off on this kid, Lark is stronger, faster, and can toss the rock every bit as good as heaps.

    Lark does not have the PR machine that heaps came in with {And look what that is adding up to} rather, he is a man that can get the job done.

    To date heaps has 3 touch downs and 5 field goals, really we need to have this lame production and blow it off as growing pains !

    This is the production of a kid that belongs on the practice field rather then the stadium field.

    This is a shame on the coaching staff and there blind and arrogant stubbornness to fallow there failed objectivity to see the reality of there choices.

    Swallow your pride coach and do the right thing, not the hyped thing.

    "POLY" Cougar Nation

  • Idaho Coug Meridian, Idaho
    Oct. 2, 2010 1:33 p.m.

    Here's the deal Cougar fans as far as I can tell -

    This season is now one long Spring and Summer Camp. The Cougs very well may only win 2-4 games. I am now looking for improvement as a very young team builds toward next season. A bowl game and that extra month of practice would be crucial but I honestly don't see that happening. I have written this season off in terms of victories but am excited to watch the team develop toward 2011. I am particularly excited to see Heaps, Q, and one or two TEs step up and prove they can be studs next season. At some point we also need to give Lark or Munns some reps so that we have a legitimate starter and backup going into next season.

    2010 is gone. I am not going to judge the Cougs any more harshly whether they win 1 or 5 games. I am looking for individual players to step up and really progress. To me this is now about a season of preparation for what could be a very successful 2011.

    Go Cougs - in 2011!!

  • sg Santa Clarita, CA
    Oct. 2, 2010 1:49 p.m.

    I predicted this upset before the season began. Now that BYU defensive coordinator is gone it's time to finish the job and get rid of the offensive coordinator. Anae has no business in that position. He's horrible. The offensive scheme is so old everybody knows what the Y is going to do even before they do. Uninspired football. Bronco looks like a deer in headlights. He hasn't a clue right now. To me, that's unacceptable. Get it going or go away. When you compare Bronco to Whittingham in Utah--there is NO comparison. I can't figure out what it is about Utah vs BYU. Oh, San Diego State 47 BYU 10; TCU 65 BYU 3; Utah 56 BYU 17; Wyoming 28 BYU 7; New Mexico 6 BYU 7. Face it BYU will be lucky to win one more game. Pathetic and sad. But then again this is a "building" year. We need a power back. De Luigi is just not big enough

  • Utah_State_Fan Logan, Utah
    Oct. 2, 2010 2:42 p.m.

    BYU just doesn't have what it takes to play with the big boys, as they showed last night.

  • JNA Layton, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 5:09 p.m.

    Believe it or not I am a big Cougar fan but after the last 4 games I have to make the following predictions:

    San Diego State: 38 Brigham Young 13
    Nevada Las Vegas 24 Brigham Young 13
    Texas Christian 49 Brigham Young 14 TCU will have 35 Points at halftime

    Wyoming 27 Brigham Young 14
    New Mexico 20 Brigham Young 14 (the game will go into overtime and BYU will let New Mexico score)

    Colorado State 23 Brigham Young 16
    Utah 45 Brigham Young 10 maybe 13

    The Cougars will go 1-11. The only game I am not certain about is New Mexico; it could go either way.

    I don't know whay BYU doesn't learn from the Head Coach of their feeder school (The University of Timpview) that coach knows how to recruit, why not learn something from him.

  • BleedRed Sandy, Utah
    Oct. 2, 2010 5:25 p.m.

    Good article Dick, proud of you for swallowing that huge piece of Humble Pie. With the Y going indepentent prepare for some healthy servings in the future. BIG mistake to go indepentent!

  • y be good when U CAN BE GREAT! Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 6:18 p.m.

    Everyone except for the zoobs could see how bad byu was going to be this year, but this is much worse than expected. At least Riley was able to get you a win, he was the best player byu had and now that he is gone it shows. The entire program is lost, there isn't one positive thing byu has. Now they are even firing the wrong people. Since when has byu ever had a good defense. The first person that needs to go is Bronko, he allowed the program to get to where it is and now that he is left with his recruits and lack of talent it isn't going to be much better if you have any plans on scheduling tougher teams.

    Heaps is a decent QB, but the only reason he looked good is because of the defense he practiced against. He came out of highschool with $100,000 worth of coaching, of course he is going to look like a star, now that he is in with the big boys he is not going to get much better. Really think Doman is a better coach that the NFL coaches he had?

  • fan29 Orem, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 6:33 p.m.

    WOW, this is just a BAD TEAM!!! Firing Jamie Hill isn't going to turn this around. I only see two games I think BYU will win of the remaining games. New Mexico & Colo St. They lose to TCU & Utah BIG, the other three games Wyo, UNLV & SDSU all toss ups. Best record 4-8 but wouldn't surprise me if they go 2-10 or 3-9

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 10:09 p.m.

    Well that was just bad all around... little effort if at all in the first half, Injuries to key defensive players and poor coaching. This team better find some guys that want to play. The only good thing about the rest of the season is that the freshman and sophmores should get a ton of reps that should payoff for the future.

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 10:30 p.m.

    Bleed Red,

    Regardless of what the future of independent football holds for byu, which is yet to be seen, it was a BIG mistake for you to never graduate from junior high.

    Seriously Bleed Red, sound out "Indepentent" to yourself. No - not a typo, you did it twice.

    Our football team is bad - but at least we can speak!

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Oct. 2, 2010 10:32 p.m.

    To: DC | 9:21 a.m. Oct. 2, 2010
    Alexandria, VA
    Regarding your conmment on BSU, take a ticket and stand in line. New Mexico State thought the same thing today. Did you see the score? Congrats again to USU as they played a great game. The Cougars are definitely in trouble both from a player point of view and from a coaching point of view. I really don't think they even had a game plan going into this game.

  • Bo Jangles Meridian, ID
    Oct. 3, 2010 12:44 a.m.

    There will be more to come, starting next week with SDSU's Brady Hoke. The Aztecs ripped USU 41-7 last Saturday in Qualcomm Stadium

    Look at Dick, in 4 short weeks he's gone from BYU homer to heckler. WOW

  • ConferenceofChampions Herriman, UT
    Oct. 3, 2010 9:37 a.m.

    This is the reality of BYU football.

    Everyone keeps talking about how these young players are "studs" and "we'll be fine next year"

    What are they showing you that gives you that impression?

    Always plenty of hype down there in Provo, and when they hype never pans out, you can count on the automatic "we'll be back next year"

    BYU needs to realize just who it is. A church institution which should be fielding high character individuals, not necessarily talented football players.

    With that being said, you can get used to sub par seasons as an independent. On any given year, most likely your season will have 1-2 losses in september, as you get your token beating from TX, Utah, and any other big time team who is willing to play you in September. The rest of the season will be uninspired play as there is nothing to play for.

    Sorry Cougs, just the reality of what you are in for.

    The novelty of this move to independence will surely wear off.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 3, 2010 5:20 p.m.

    Reading the article I thought of a scene from Robert Redford's movie "The Natural." After losing a bunch of games, the baseball team brings in a five foot two middle-aged sports psychologist who keeps reminding the players that "losing is a disease." It doesn't help, but he shows up three times a week to repeat the mantra.

    I watched a tape of the USU game and BYU does seem to have a losing disease of some sort. Receivers were getting wide open. The ball was delivered on time and right to the hands. The lane was open for a lot of yards. The only way to mess this up is for the receiver to drop the ball. That must have happened ten times. That's not to mention the defense where a sure quarterback sack turns into a twenty yard gain because of slippery fingers.

    I don't know what the cure is, but I think its going to take more than just reshuffling the staff.




  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Oct. 3, 2010 6:15 p.m.

    @ Utah_State_Fan | 2:42 p.m. Oct. 2, 2010
    BYU just doesn't have what it takes to play with the big boys, as they showed last night.

    Ummm BYU can't play with anyone. Utah State is not the big boys though you might dream as such just because you came close to beating Oklahoma. Go win your conference and a bowl game, if you even know what that means, and then come tell us about the big boys. Until proven differently, Utah State is a perenially loser, BYU is not. Enjoy your measly win, they don't happen too often for you guys.

  • Waylon77 Logan, UT
    Oct. 4, 2010 11:31 a.m.

    RE Duh

    Just to be clear, USU has been a much worse football team than BYU for a long time now, but to be fair there is no way BYU could win the WAC this year or in the past five years for that matter. Boise would wipe the floor with them, even during recent years when they won the MWC. The WAC as it stands this year is not a cupcake conference, and getting wins agains the better WAC teams is not an easy feat. Ask BYU (0-2 against the WAC this year).
    BYU has traditionally had a good football program, but the aggies are on the rise, and despite the past beating up on the measly cougars felt pretty darn good.