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  • SportzFan
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:28 p.m.

    Home Run.

    I was skeptical, but no more.

  • chase SL
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:32 p.m.

    This is a sign that everything will work out just how we planned it. Go cougs!

    Utah fans are envious!

  • eastcoastcoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:36 p.m.

    Great! I am as excited as anyone to see the ESPN deal and ability to see the home games on Dish (I haven't lived anywhere near Utah for many years).

    Now, we need to get out there and win some games. Not winning in any major bowl in the last 14 years has also put us in this situation (ie. not getting invited to the PAC and needing to go independent). Let's beat Fla State, TCU and Utah on the road this year, and return to the days of being unbeatable at home. We have a history of talking about what we deserve rather than getting down to business and EARNING our recognition!!

  • sammyg
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:39 p.m.

    Rest in peace 'The mtn'

  • JTP
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:41 p.m.

    Great News! As a graduate of the U of U, what a pleasure it will be to watch BYU in HD. I'm looking forward to more positive news like this to offset the inevitable negative comments from . . . . you know who. I'm equally proud of both schools.

  • williary
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:43 p.m.

    So much for the "short-term independence" as a means to getting a BCS conference invite. Clearly BYU knows that nobody is knocking down the door to bring BYU in.

  • cerana
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:45 p.m.

    Very good news, indeed! Let's celebrate this new beginning of a very promising program.

  • Johnny Triumph
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:47 p.m.

    This brings huge exposure to BYU across the nation and the world. Great work building this agreement!

  • Over the Top
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:47 p.m.

    Thank you Pres. Samuelson and Tom Holmoe!!! Well done. Looking forward to SEEING the Cougars on TV!

  • sls
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:47 p.m.

    Notre Dame and Texas make the cornerstones for a successful broadcast package, no matter who else is on the schedule. BYU has done things well.

  • RepresentBlue
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:48 p.m.

    Speechless. Tom Holmoe and President Samuelson knocked it out of the park!!

  • Hallsy
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:48 p.m.

    This much exposure should probably come with an XXX rating. In the end, BYU gets the last laugh . . . ahhhaaahaaaah!

  • Razoo
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:48 p.m.

    I'm so glad to know there will be no more Mtn TV for BYU sports! Such good news!

  • metamoracoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:53 p.m.

    I can't believe this announcement! Too good to be true! Living in central Illinois, I'm looking forward to watching more than the bowl game every year. I'm especially excited about being able to watch games on BYUTV.

    I know that there are a lot of cougar fans who think that the affiliation with the WCC is a step down, but I don't see it as such. These are all highly respected schools and several frequently grace top 25 lists in sports.

    I say good on ya, BYU!

  • Tom in CA
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:53 p.m.

    @Otis; hedgehog; Chris B; and friends etal:

    Well boys - the news just keeps getting better. This is just the start.

    Keep coming back for more news breaking articles that are exciting and credible - we all stopped paying any attention to you all's blathering long ago.

  • Louisiana Cougar
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:54 p.m.

    Apparently the national exposure and the ESPN deal were BYU's primary reasons for going independent.

    Am I the only one who thinks that the long-term game plan is to move to a BCS Conference?

    Having the opportunity to watch BYU on television is something I'll certainly enjoy.

  • Double Rainbow
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:55 p.m.

    No we aren't lol

  • MacNasty
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:56 p.m.

    3 year deal with Texas

    6 year deal with Notre Dame

    8 year deal with ESPN

    Looks like ESPN and others have the opinion that BYU is a valuable commodity.

    17 times in the final AP top 20 (top 25 starting in 1989)

    1 consensus (all major polls agree) National Championship

    Football teams have ebbs and flows; high and lows. However, consistency is what ESPN has seen in BYU and will see in the future.

    I am not comparing BYU with any other team nor go down the list of successes and failures.

    If anyone wants to bad mouth, take it up with ESPN and tell them how you are so much smarter than they are.


  • Roboto
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:57 p.m.

    We are envious... While we are sitting on our pile of money

  • Veritas Aequitas
    Sept. 1, 2010 1:58 p.m.

    BYU's future looks sweet.

    Let's hope we see the inside of RES for the last time this year...

    Not enough prestige playing a lower tier PAC team to make up for all the "anti-zoob" parinoia.

    Although I wouldn't mind signing a deal to play SWBU in basketball.

    I'm sure BYU could take that powerhouse in the MC.

  • BYU-Virginia
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:02 p.m.


    theMTN single-handedly destroyed the Mountain West Conference.

    Boise, Fresno, and Nevada, do you know what you are up against?

    Good-luck BYU and Utah, we'll be looking to see your games now.

  • UteExpat
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:03 p.m.

    Hey Chase,

    I am a Utah fan, and while I am happy for BYU and think this has some seriously great potential for them, I'm not envious at all. I'd rather be in the PAC 12, and I'm grateful for the opportunity Utah has. But this sounds like it could be really great, and good luck to BYU in every game but one!

  • giggle
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:03 p.m.

    bring on the Irish!

  • bigdaddy
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    What a recruiting advantage this will be. Coaches can guarantee to potential recruits that every game they play as a BYU Cougar will be carried nationally and can be seen in nearly every household in America whether on ESPN, ABC, ESPN2, ESPNU or BYUtv.

    Also, they can offer a very powerful lineup of top ranked teams on the schedule including Notre Dame, Texas, Boise St, etc to further attract top tier players.

    As other marquee, elite programs see the success of BYU's model come to light, I wouldn't doubt that you see many if not all of them follow suit. I think the impact this will have on the BCS will surprise many. It would only work for a handful of schools, like Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio St, USC, Alabama, Miami FL, etc.

    With the best teams going indy, this will render BCS conferences like the Pac 10, Big 12, etc more like the MWC, CUSA or the WAC and change the way the BCS looks at the whole football landscape.

    That's quite an impact.

  • VegasCoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    HOME RUN

  • VegasCoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    This is so awesome! Wow! What a home run!

  • 42istheanswer
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    Good on ya BYU. Hope this works out better than Notre Dame.

  • TLH
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:04 p.m.

    Interesting things to me from the press conference...
    1) long-term deals with ESPN & Notre Dame, and seemingly with the WCC. I get the feeling the Big 12 idea really isn't happening.
    2) Comments from the WCC & BYU on what a great fit this is - private religious institutions & great academic standards. Sunday play not a problem. As opposed to the comments from the 12-PAC and why Utah was such a good fit for them - academic freedom & research institution (latest research grant $3.5 million to study brain functions of worms BTW. Fitting place to study that, I guess).
    3) Holmoe downplaying the money & the BCS while continuing on the exposure theme.
    4) The fact that ESPN came in and sort of resurrected the whole thing. This, put together with the rearranging of the WAC & MWC, changes their deal with the WAC, and probably brings the demise of the Mountain Network since the majority of their ad revenue came from Utah. Don't know if adding USU would stem that tide or not.

    All in all, exciting day to be a Cougar Fan!

  • Floyd Johnson
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:07 p.m.

    I look forward to official 2011 and 2012 football schedules.

    I am excited that I will now be able to watch BYU Football games.

  • cynic
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:09 p.m.

    Interesting going back and reading the comments of all the naysayers who made fun of this move and said BYU could never get a good television contract or fill out their schedule with worthy opponents if they went independent. Who's laughing now?

  • williary
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:09 p.m.

    re: chase

    1)Utah will be getting aprx. $15-20M from it's Pac-12 TV deals once everything is finalized. BYU will be getting far less than what they had hoped according to documents released through USU. Still much more than from the MWC, but nowhere near what Utah will be getting.

    2)Nothing has changed for BYU, except they have eliminated the teams ahead of them for BCS considernation. They now avoid Utah/TCU/Boise in conference. Teams who actually get to BCS games. Yet BYU must still be undefeated to get to the BCS. And likely finish at least top 6 to get an auto bid. On the other hand, all Utah has to do is win its conference to get into the ROSE BOWL. No other requirements. 2 loss, 3 loss, no matter. Win the Pac, play in the BCS. Again obviously a major advantage to Utah. Lose game 1 for BYU and your season is done.

    3)"8-year deal with ESPN." Big deal. Utah signed a permanent deal to play USC, UCLA, Oregon every season! Forever! And when the superconference happen, Utah is already at the table!

  • CougarClassic
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:10 p.m.

    Away games!!!!!

    What about the Away games??????

  • Observation-ist
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:10 p.m.

    Giddy. Just absolutely giddy. As a life-long BYU fan, I watched LIVE on BYU-TV the press conference and listened to Tom Holmoe, Dave Brown (ESPN) and Jamie (WCC) talk about how exciting and committed they are to a bright future. 8 years of ALL home games broadcast by ESPN. Whooooaaaaa!

    It was a nice gesture by ESPN to recognize the long and fruitful relationship between BYU and ESPN. I did not know that the first live college football game on ESPN was BYU-PITT in 1984. That's awesome.

    Congratulations to BYU athletics. I'm happy Dave Rose and Company have a solid home along side Gonzaga, St. Mary's etc.

    I'm sure the haters will find someway to twist this but if they'd actually listened to the news conference, they'd simply be quiet. This is a great day for BYU athletics and for the university. CONGRATULATIONS!!!

  • Johnny Triumph
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:13 p.m.

    How quickly will Directv drop the mtn from basic packages in Utah?

  • AFCoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:13 p.m.

    Great job by BYU, Holmoe, and Smuelson. I was a bit skeptical and nervous but now I can't wait after that news conferance. I'm pumped not only about football but the alignment with the WCC. I think I'll fly out to Provo simply to see the first Zag-Coug game in the Marriott Center. BYU will be just fine! I asked a friend at work to name 5 of the six teams in the MWC this year. He could not do it as a big FBS fan. He could name all the independents though. Already getting the exposure!

  • J21
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:17 p.m.

    What an amazing deal! Congrats to both Utah and BYU. BYU could not be in a better position. The reason is that the cougars get the exposure and the money beginning next year. Utah has to wait 3 years before they really get paid in the PAC 10. Also BYU gets abc/espn while the utes get FSN. Both are good deals but it is easy to see that BYU got an amazing deal that I believe is unmatched outside of notre dame. Also BYU doesn't have to share with anyone.

  • Max-was-right
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:17 p.m.

    I see all the BEW's have closed the drapes and locked the doors. Their world is falling in on them.....Come on tell us BYU fans how bad this was going to be again???

    Hello any haters out there....hello....

  • Twardy
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:25 p.m.

    AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! GGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COUGS!!!

  • bigdaddy
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:26 p.m.

    @williary

    "So much for the "short-term independence" as a means to getting a BCS conference invite. Clearly BYU knows that nobody is knocking down the door to bring BYU in."

    If you ever pull your head out maybe you'll hear a little better. What's clear is that BYU doesn't NEED to be in a BCS conference to get their piece of the pie.

    What they're modeling to the rest of the college football world is something that only a handful of elite programs could do and are certain to follow. Only the likes of Texas, Florida, Ohio St, USC, Oklahoma, Alabama, etc, teams with a national fanbase could pull it off.

    Teams like Utah have just small, limited, local fanbases and will be stuck in conferences that are bereft of marquee teams. Conferences like the Pac 10 minus USC are in essence what the MWC was, 2nd tier.

    The limelight and money will follow those schools who can follow BYU's model of independence. Teams in conferences like the Pac 10 will have to fight on the floor for any scraps leftover.

  • Twardy
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:26 p.m.

    Awesome! Go Cougs!

  • mr. ideas
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:26 p.m.

    I give some credit to ESPN for the 2004 Utah team. They had a vested interest in the Utes and gave them the exposure to not get looked over in the polls.

    Maybe Gameday will pay a few more visits to the zoob collective so they can celebrate in the morning and get blown out during the evening.

    This looks like a better than I thought.

  • statman9
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:30 p.m.

    I thought that I heard Tom Holmoe say that ESPN has also started to help get and secure games with other big name schools other than ND and Texas, I wonder who they are?

  • diegodude
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:33 p.m.

    55 million viewers having access to byutv is misleading. Cable/fiber TV operators in SoCal (and probably most markets outside of Utah/Idaho) allow "access" to byutv but not with their basic packages. The problem with the Mtn was that you couldn't get it even with the premium package. In that regard, byutv is an improvement.

  • essay
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:34 p.m.

    Excellent news, better than I hoped, but what about the 2 big unaswered questions:

    What kind of bid is BYU eligible for the BCS? It was reported that as BYU was considering independence, they were talking with the BCS about this.

    What about the 3 sports that the WCC doesn't have that BYU has? What's to become of them?

  • Tom in CA
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:36 p.m.

    @ williary:
    Clearly - you know nothing.

    @Roboto:
    We are thrilled about your big pile of money.

  • Alex 1
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:36 p.m.

    Thanks UteExpat,

    Kudos on your PAC 12 invite and much success to you. I think that the PAC 12 is an excellent fit for Utah, and I mean that in the best sense.

    However, I think that independence suits BYU better. I like the idea of having complete ownership over our own schedule. BYU performs better when it has no safety net. We stand or fall on our own. Sure there are some risks, but there is much more upside as I see it.

  • Pa. Reader
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:37 p.m.

    BYU and Utah enter their final MWC season with bright futures. Fans of both schools should be elated.
    I have already circled the date of the final BYU game broadcast on the MTN. That's the day I will cancel my DirecTV account. Those of us outside the intermountain west were forced to DirecTV and their inferior service. (Games on Versus were unavailable last year.) There are far better options to get ESPN and BYU-TV.
    WCC is a great fit for BYU. Pac-10 makes sense for Utah. BYU vs. Utah rivalry should continue.

  • Jimmy James
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:39 p.m.

    I'm a Ute fan, but am excited for BYU. This sounds like a great opportunity especially given the partnering with ESPN and Notre Dame. While who knows if BYU will be able to get many bowl games as an independent, either way, they're still achieving the overriding goal of increased exposure.

    I'm also optimistic for the MWC. While many badmouth Thompson, he was just doing his job and quite frankly has done a pretty good job overall with the MWC. I say snag Houston and another team, and it will still be a top notch conference with Boise State and TCU leading the way. Also, now that the MWC is totally different, hopefully the MWC can rework the deal with Comcast regarding the MTN channel.

    The only catch to all this good news is the bad news for Utah State and the WAC. I hope they both land on their feet after all of this.

  • Civil
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:41 p.m.

    The lowly of accomplishment and the weak in mind and character feel compelled to compare themselves to others.

  • Henry Drummond
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:45 p.m.

    I'm glad my friends at BYU have something to brag about! I hope this all works out for you and your fans.

    A Ute Fan.

  • SoCalTrueBlue2
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:49 p.m.

    As a BYU fan, I welcome these exciting developments. But let's not kid ourselves that this is better than an invite to the PAC-10/12. Utah and BYU have both taken major steps forward for their football and basketball programs. Which school will soar higher with its chosen path will depend on recruiting and performance of its teams over the next 5 years. I hope both soar, except when Utah meets BYU on the field or court.

  • eastcoastcoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:49 p.m.

    RE Williary,

    OK you win, you win, YOU WIN!! I lived in a PAC 10 city for years and would LOVE to see BYU go there - first choice. But it DID NOT HAPPEN!! What I don't get is all you YEWTS being such sore winners. You could win it all but would still have to come back and rub it in poor ole' BYU's face. Anyone fitting this profile is such a loser. And most of you are Mormons too (else why post on DNews??).

    What did BYU do to you? Are you sore because your tithing goes there? You can't get over the honor code and curfews, but most of you live at home with Mom until you're 23. You still can't smoke and drink and sleep around. What is it you have over BYU people?

    Show some class, live your own life and leave BYU alone (you should be ashamed if you are LDS). Max was right - we've all put up with years of garbage from you people!!!

  • BYU Girl
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:50 p.m.

    I don't know about you other BYU fans, but I can't wait to watch some great TV games next season. Only one more year of watching games on the Mtn. I get so tired of not getting to see completed passes because of the incompetent camera people! I was thumbing through the channels on my tv the other day and stopped on the Mtn. It was the Ute's football show with Coach Whittingham. The audio and visual weren't synchronized. Such amateurs! (Not the Utes--the Mtn!) If for only this reason, the Cougars left the MWC, it would be reason enough for me!!! Great job Elder Samuelson, ESPN & Tom Holmoe!

  • The Rock
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:50 p.m.

    This is better than being invited to the PAC 10
    Religious discrimination kept BYU out of the PAC 10.

    Whenever a door closes, God opens a window.

    Job well done!

  • RepresentBlue
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:51 p.m.

    I am for sure renewing my Cougar Club membership and season tickets next year, though I bet the price skyrockets now. Time to dust off those stadium expansion plans!

  • RR
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:56 p.m.

    I've hated this whole thing since it started. Now, I feel better. BYU can recruit from the entire nation now and can go anywhere to let people see them, and Utah will be more limited to the far west coast. I love the independence, just uneasy about the WCC. Good thing they are very good in several sports.

    This article made me feel better, but I'd love to read what each person said.

    I live in Nebraska, so I'm glad I can turn on my computer and watch BYUTV or ESPN and not pay for either!

  • TheCanuck
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:58 p.m.

    The .mtn network exists because in the early days of the MWC the ESPN deal we had us playing and broadcasting games way late at night even for the west coast. The MWC got little respect from ESPN but was on national TV still.

    When the ESPN deal for BYU kicks in lets see when their games are scheduled to determine how much respect they get. Also lack of financial details seems like something to hide possibly. Maybe the BYU/ESPN deal is not as good as expected by BYU and no public disclosure will limit the embarrassment.

  • peacemaker
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:58 p.m.

    This is awesome!! Williary,thousands of BYU fans are also,like myself, Utah alumni and also solid Utah fans (with one game exception). I am equally pleased that Utah has advanced to the PAC 12. Both of these step up moves will be a major plus to this great state. Quit whining, think good thoughts and you too can delight in this turn of events for both of these Universities.
    Go Cougs!! Go Utes!! May the rivalry live on with the respect that each school deserves.

  • blauch
    Sept. 1, 2010 2:59 p.m.

    42istheanswer

    Hope this works better than Notre Dame? Nothing is wrong with Notre Dame schedule, the money they make, their agreement with NBC, the standing with the BCS. Actually, they have put themselves to make more money than any other school (considering they don't have to share any of the BSC money).

    They just don't win enough.

    ANY PAC10 TEAM WOULD RATHER BE IN NOTRE DAME'S PLACE

  • Old Gregg
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:03 p.m.

    @ Mr. Ideas,

    Ya, get blown out during the evenings just like Utah did vs. TCU when gameday was there. Does anyone else find it funny how mr. ideas makes fun of BYU for the same thing that happened to Utah. Doesn't make sense does it?

    Anyway, I was very surprised when I heard the deal BYU put together. I hope they can live up to the hype. I've very excited for the next few years. There should be some great football coming to Provo. Can't wait for Saturday.

  • Owl
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:05 p.m.

    Oh my! "Faith-based schools that are academically oriented...." That certainly excludes other current MWC schools except AFA which does have standards and good academics. See ya MWC.

  • missionaryeire
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:05 p.m.

    Now that ESPN has the rights to the broadcast of the BCS they have a vested interest in who plays there. I would not be suprised if they try to push for BYU in a BCS game because they can use it to build up the games that they already have slated for the season. Controversy loves ratings and BYU & ESPN look good together.

  • RepresentBlue
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:05 p.m.

    If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto the Mtn, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Matthew 17:20

  • eastcoastcoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:06 p.m.

    RE Williary II,

    All Utah has to do is win the Rose Bowl?? The most you guys have played in the PAC is 2 games a season. You won't win the Rose Bowl when you play every week vs. decent competition. It IS a better conference and you WILL rake in the $$. But don't be so obnoxiously overconfident you will win it in the first 5 years. It took ASU more than 10 years to win it and several times they were knocked out the last game of the season.

    You also will not win recruiting battles vs. UCLA, USC and Washington for the best players in those states. You will continue to get MWC-level players.

    Lots of luck....

  • patriot
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:08 p.m.

    sounds ok for football but the other sports are now in the WCC which a huge step down. Not sure if this is going to be good or just be the beginning of the end of the Y in the NCAA.

  • Ravenal
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:08 p.m.

    Spin it however you want williary but we all know you for what you are. Be happy for your team and stop being so obsessed with all things BYU.

  • Oner Code
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:13 p.m.

    Even the U will get on ESPN...only when they play BYU though.

  • Cali Coug
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:16 p.m.

    Re: Williary

    You missed the bigger picture dude...the u may eventually get to the big payout, it all depends on the new TV contract. I expect a good deal for the PAC but they may end up with a dog...just like the last to additions to the conference.

    Go GOUG!! Freedom, freedom, freedom!!

  • KtarCoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:18 p.m.

    What a great day to be a Coug!!!

  • Dutchman
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:20 p.m.

    Kudos to BYU. They really did pull it off. I am most happy for the local Utah High School athletes who can now play on a big stage no matter where they choose to go to school, Utah or BYU. Also, as a Utah fan I am thrilled that the rivalry games will be on ESPN or the PAC 12 TV package. This is great for everybody. I believe BYU was smart for aligning themselves with other faith based schools. This could be a relationship that BYU elects to not break even if another conference comes along in the future. It seems that these schools have a lot in common in their academic offerings. They are not research heavy weights like the PAC 12 but they don't need to be. Yes, Utah may have a home game against Washington State while BYU is at home against Notre Dame but it will even out when Utah is at home in basketball against UCLA and BYU is at home against the University of Portland. But, this is a good day for BYU and all the athletes in the State of Utah.

  • utahcountyute
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:21 p.m.

    So what are the BCS implications? Top 2? Top 8 like ND? Doubt it.

    That said, now can we move on to football? Tomorrow night it all begins.

    Good luck to byu until November.

  • Wiley Old School
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:26 p.m.

    Based on the reaction of the BYU fans posting here, I must congratulate BYU for achieving what their fans want and, ultimately, that should be the driving factor.

    I admit that I underestimated how ecstatic the BYU fan base would be just to see the games on (almost) free TV, e.g. ESPN, BYUTV. Every one of your games this season is being broadcast, so it's not an access issue that has been bugging you, clearly it's a FREE access issue (minus the ESPNU games that usually require a premium sports package subscription... but, hey, free reruns on BYUTV!).

    I agree with most that this comes at the cost of never being able to pursue a conference championship and an even lessened likelihood of ever playing in a BCS bowl (one loss and there's nothing left to play for) but evidently that was worth the price.

    I don't know any Utah fans who would want to change places with BYU in a million years, so it seems that both BYU and Utah fans are delighted about how things have turned out. Congrats to all!

  • yarrlydarb
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:29 p.m.

    Well, if nothing else, the press conference essentially shut down the naysayers' posts from that school up north. Seven nationally televised home games and the ability to nationally televise the other five plus the almost certain bowl game somewhere if they have a decent season, plus being able to keep all the money they earn sounds pretty darn sweet to me! Way to go, Samuelson, Holmoe and ESPN! I can't wait for 2011!

  • Veritas Aequitas
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:31 p.m.

    Johnny Triumph | 2:13 p.m. Sept. 1, 2010
    How quickly will Directv drop the mtn from basic packages in Utah?

    ===

    Ummmmm... What is the mtn?

    LOL

  • klepsydra
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:33 p.m.

    The WCC is not a huge step down from the MWC in my opinion. The MWC has become pretty good in football but remains a poor conference in most other sports. Basketball is about even maybe a little down. Many other sports like baseball, soccer, volleyball and golf are improvements.

  • yarrlydarb
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:36 p.m.

    Well, if nothing else, the press conference essentially shut down the naysayers' posts from that school up north. Seven nationally televised home games and the ability to nationally televise the other five plus the almost certain bowl game somewhere if they have a decent season, plus being able to keep all the money they earn sounds pretty darn sweet to me! Way to go, Samuelson, Holmoe and ESPN! I can't wait for 2011!

  • Golfhack20
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:37 p.m.

    Can't wait until I can take my son down to the Mariott Center and have a tip off time of 10 PM on ESPN U. Everyone in the Country will stay up late for that one? Right!!!! Isn't that the reason the Mountain started in the first place. Oh well I read that BYUTV can rebroadcast the Y's game later even the same day. Well if we tip off at 10 then I can go to bed wake up at 4 a.m. and watch the rebroadcast and still get out to deliver my papers. Thank you so much Mr I mean Brother Holmoe.

  • Big Hapa
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:39 p.m.

    re patriot

    You are the funniest whinnie the pooh charcter Eior.

    The whole world is having a party and you are Eior off in your owen gloom filled world.

    Rock on BYUtv and all the other winners ESPN, ESPNU, and the ABC affiliates this is a tremendous day to be a Cougar fan that now can see games the day of, also rebroadcast the same day and on BYUtv.

    This is so COOL !
    Oh sorry patriot forgot about you in the corner of your little world.

  • football43
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:47 p.m.

    Will somebody go tell Chris B. Naval Vet, Patriot and hedgeies mothers to wake them up from their naps.....

  • cougsrock
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:52 p.m.

    Awesome. sure did shut up the Ute's. Historic day for BYU. Can't wait to visit some of the incredible parts of the country follwing my Cougs in Football as well as basketball.

  • ExecutorIoh
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:54 p.m.

    These are rumors that I have heard:
    That the ESPN deal with BYU amounts to $4M per year to broadcast a min of 3 games. BYU retains the rights to broadcast the remaining games or rebroadcast ESPN games. With BYU's new broadcast center, they get to cut out the middle-man there and air the other home games and collect all the profit. Expect the TV arrangement in total to be worth about $6M per year which they get from day 1.

  • ExecutorIoh
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:55 p.m.

    The Big 10 and SEC both have TV agreements that put them near $20M/school/year. Neither the Big12 or the Pac-10 has the unique combination of strength of conference and TV viewership to warrant a similar contract. The ACC just signed a contract with ESPN for about $11M/school/year and that is for both basketball and football (and the ACC has some awesome basketball). I would doubt highly that the Pac-10 with the inclusion of Colorado (3-9) and Utah (mid-major) with the medicrity of late will be able to command more than $12-13M/school/year when the new deal is done. And it is that high only because of the number of viewers. Just my thoughts.

  • Wookie
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:56 p.m.

    Fear brings anger, anger brings hate, and hate brings misery...

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz
    Sept. 1, 2010 3:58 p.m.

    I'm very excited for this deal. Why are people worried about the BCS? It's not going to be around for that much longer and now that ESPN has the games and a contract with BYU do you really think BYU would be in the top 8 of the BCS and get left out??? Who cares about a guarantee? They don't need one.

    WCC is fine. Playing all the games in California, Washington and Oregon is way better than going to NM, Wyoming, Reno etc. The competition in most sports is as good or better than the MWC. I like that they are all private religious schools. SDSU, UNM and UNLV basketball is based on recruiting thugs who got kicked out of UCLA, Kansas etc. or were too risky to recruit in the first place. I'll be happy to go see Gonzaga and St. Mary's.

    The best part of this is the games will be on TV. Everyone who wants to be able to see them can. The smaller sports will be on TV and playing in better locations. I don't think they'll miss the MWC much and football has FREEDOM from the mtn

  • Poqui
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:09 p.m.

    As an LDS Ute fan I am thrilled to be able to cheer for BYU next year, as long as they don't play my Utes.

  • AZ Dave
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:10 p.m.

    BigDaddy "With the best teams going indy, this will render BCS conferences like the Pac 10, Big 12, etc more like the MWC, CUSA or the WAC and change the way the BCS looks at the whole football landscape". Which teams? ND and BYU who else? One small detail, You have to WIN and go Undefeated

  • woodymullet
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:14 p.m.

    What are the details of the BYU basketball TV contract? What deal does the WCC currently have with ESPN?

  • mr. ideas
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:19 p.m.

    @ zoob clone Gregg

    You really trying to compare Gameday last year at TCU with the zoob fiasco at home???

    Dude, go steal some of your wife’s OxyContin… I was giving the Cougs a compliment -- I think this will be a good thing for BYU…

    Trying to give a zoob a compliment is like trying to feed an alligator with your bare hands.

  • coachcarter
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:23 p.m.

    Good on ya Cougs. However, it's still gonna be tough to get into a BCS bowl game. It's too bad you weren't given the same BCS rights as Notre Dame. Good luck this season, that is of course till we meet at RES

  • Sombito
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:26 p.m.

    "ESPN and ESPN2 are both available in 99.5% of homes."

    Do 99.5 percent of homes even have television? Mine doesn't, and I don't think we represent only 1 household out of 200.

  • idablu
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:30 p.m.

    @ Civil
    Well said.

    I am very excited about this. Would I rather be in the PAC 12 like Utah? probably, but I am ecstatic about getting out of the MWC (mostly because of TV coverage, not the quality of teams.) I would really like a chance at BCS games which doesn't seem to be in the picture with this deal.

    I do think that Utah will win the PAC within 5 years and enjoy the Rose Bowl. I don't agree with the naysayers that Utah won't be able to compete. They are already better than 80% of the teams in that conference. I am confident they will do very well in their new home.

    BYU will also do fine. If we continue to win and show that we can compete with the big schools, this could be very lucrative. If we don't win in football, then this move will hurt us bad. But I love the risk. Congrats and kudos to Holmoe, Samuelson, and ESPN.

  • IDC
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:29 p.m.

    Money is great but I can't wait to watch all of the games on HD. More basketball, better football, more of other sports.

  • Packrat
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:31 p.m.

    Wow!! I am such a huge BYU fan and I am so happy they were able to pull this off.. Thanks to ESPN for acknowledging the legacy of BYU football. I think this will only help add to the rivalry with Utah and I can't wait to see it continue. Congrats to both programs for finally getting the recognition they deserve! So long MWC and hair Thompson! Thanks for nothin!

  • Wiley Old School
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:31 p.m.

    ExecutorIoh:

    Not sure who's going to pay the extra to go from $4MM to $6MM. I don't think it's home games because I read the agreement to be that all home games will run on an ESPN channel (perhaps most on ESPNU but still an ESPN channel). I'd assume away games would typically be run on BYUTV but maybe there are other parties who's pay to have it run elsewhere.

    That might not be a bad estimate for the PAC. Add, however, the shared PAC bowl revenues and the gap widens. At least one BCS payout (occasionally two) annually plus contributions from 5-6 second tier bowls. Better than a full share of one minor bowl.

    But, from a money standpoint, BYU clearly sees a net plus over one share of the MTN TV revenues and combined MWC bowl revenues.

  • YtxPat
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:35 p.m.

    Exciting. Great job by Holmoe. I live in Houston and will enjoy seeing most of the games. Might even consider not buying season tickets. Nah!

    Already looking for Texas tickets. Longhorns have never beaten BYU. I even think Wyoming will fight them hard next week. (Remember Tennesse)

    Do you think the Utes could repeat our performance from 1984 by beating a ranked Pitt (we did it on the road)? Has Utah ever been ranked #1 in the nation in football for even one week?

    I have heard that CBS will never televise a BYU game. Can someone catch me up on the history?

    I like ESPN's deal and this will be a good year. Once our quarterback situation works itself out.

    Go Cougs!

  • SoCalcoog
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:42 p.m.

    Well planned (many years, not a knee-jerk reaction to being 'jealous' at Utah), well executed (WAC implosion is not the fault of BYU), and well, the A.D. just won big time (Holmoe tried to tell us in June), now the team can focus on the game. GO COUGS!

    Hey Hedge cronies et.al. - still think Holmoe should be fired before Saturday?

    How nice to hear...

    crickets

  • UTAH MAN AM I
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:46 p.m.

    Well played byu. Sounds like a pretty good deal. As a Utah fan here's hoping to you guys getting owned every single weekend on national TV, but thanks for guaranteeing that the rivalry game will be shown on big boy sports TV.

  • idablu
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:48 p.m.

    @patriot

    "Not sure if this is going to be good or just be the beginning of the end of the Y in the NCAA."
    Why do you keep hoping that BYU will lose their sports? Are you really that paranoid about playing BYU in anything?

    I'll admit that Utah has a better gig going than BYU, but BYU's deal is still pretty good. . .better than the status quo.

    So why can't you (and many other yewts) be happy with your invitation into the PAC and quit dogging the Cougs with the deal they just struck.

  • abstract
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:48 p.m.

    I think BYU and Utah both did well for themselves. having lived 20 years outside of Utah I enjoy reading these comments from Utah based BYU and UTAH fans. For 40 years BYU has built a national reputation in football. Today is evidence of that. What you Utahns don't understand is the rest of the country aren't worked up about this at all. It's football season and they could care less about you two. But I can tell you that everyone knows who BYU is. Not so many have a clue who Utah is. Many of my friends think Utah is USU. Bad or good this is real life and if you leave the state of Utah you will find this out. I live in PAC 10 country and cheer for the local team and as bad as the mtn channel is fox is not much better and the PAC 10 teams are all crying about what a sucky contract/exposure package they have, if only we could be on ESPN!!!! Sound familiar? Now for fun just for fun.... ESPN approached BYU first, phone is ringing off hook to get a chance to play BYU!! Go Cougs!!!!!!!

  • The Cucamongan
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:49 p.m.

    As I listened attentively to Tom Holmoe in the press conference, I cannot believe that this had nothing to do with money - only exposure. COME ON!!!Then he stated that the arrangement with the WCC is long term and BYU is not looking beyond the WCC. Later in the press conference he answered the question from the press regarding the BIG 12 that language is built into the WCC agreement that BYU can leave. You have to believe that BYU will jump at the chance to join the BIG 12 if offered the opportunity. How can Tom Holmoe keep a straight face!! Although BYU Independence Day could be a great thing, Tom Holmoe lost alot of credibility with me. I also believe that he has thrown the Softball program under the bus for now.

  • AFCoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:52 p.m.

    What about BBall games. I enjoyed watching those (pretty much all of them) when conferance started and several before that. I know the WCC has a tv contract with ESPN for those games but how many will we get to see. Also I read on ESPN that they are only required to show 3 games a year? The rest will be on byutv? What about away games? I would imagine BYU will schedule with ESPN's help schools that are under contract with ESPN in order to show those games. Hope so.

  • AZJazzFan
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:52 p.m.

    This caps a great summer for BYU and Utah.

  • mountains101
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:59 p.m.

    Ungrateful small-minded fans. Good riddance to you all.

  • DC
    Sept. 1, 2010 4:59 p.m.

    Now, just win baby!

    A HUGE risk with a high possibility of reward. The flip side is that if BYU loses multiple games each year, they'll still get to a bowl game but their exposure decreases on ESPN (in the contract). Just win, and all your problems melt away.

    Also, with everyone saying that BYU has to win all their games to get to a BCS game - how is that different than what they have to do now? No, this isn't the same as going to the PAC 12 or Big 12 - I don't think anyone would argue that, but at the very least BYU controls their own future and revenue possibilities. I'll take that over being in the MWC any day.

  • davidutefan
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:12 p.m.

    congratulations. This sounds like a great partnership for the Cougs. l like the Utes joining the the PAC 10(?) but that clearly wasn't a good fit for the TDS. Still, Cougar fans have to be as excited about this news as we were in SLC. Good job Holmoe.

  • Dave S
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:15 p.m.

    Sounds like there are going to be a lot of late night/week night games for the Zoobs. Say hello to Wednesday and Thursday night games and ESPN U.

  • Gordon
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:16 p.m.

    Hmmmmm....ND for 6 years through 2020 but only 3 at home....so thats 2011,13,15,and Texas for 3 but only 1 at home, 2012...so who are the other 5 or 6 home games with? And most importantly who will the Y-ners play in October and November when BSC teams are playing in their conferences?

    I am amazed that Y-ner think that 8 years on ESPN on Thursdays and Fridays will be something that they cheer about! ESPN as sugar daddy sure thought you were pretty just not that pretty to take anywhere important on Saturday! Soon people will be able to ask...what is the difference between Boise State when it was in the WAC and Ybu now that they are independent... and the answer will be nothing....they both played games during the week instead of Saturday!

  • TheHailstorm
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:17 p.m.

    I would like to eat my share of crow and apple pie.
    Also, I wish to congratulate BYU and wish them the best in their new endeavor.

  • SportzFan
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:19 p.m.

    You are an LDS athlete,

    and you want a quality school, a good environment, national exposure and the chance for your parents to see you on TV every week. Your choices are the best local college -- and BYU.

    You are a European basketball player,

    and you dream of playing in the NBA. You'd also like to get a quality education and have your parents see you on TV. You know you can get to the NBA and get a good education playing for a college in the U.S., and the school whose games are broadcast to your home and available on the internet is -- BYU.

    You are an athlete outside the U.S. with ambitions beyond sport.

    You want to do business in the U.S. someday so you seek an immersion experience in English and American culture. You also want your friends and family to see you on TV so you choose -- BYU.

    You are the head of the Chinese Athletic Association

    and you want your athletes to get international exposure and an immersion experience in English and American culture, and your citizens to see them play. You send your athletes to -- BYU.



  • SportzFan
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:21 p.m.

    In the 60's, 70's and 80's BYU had a boatload of European athletes who were referred by members there. I can see that trend coming back around in a big way because of the international exposure.

  • Gordon
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:21 p.m.

    Even if Y-ners get this exposure, remember you have no chance of a BCS game unless you are undefeated and ranked #2....but you can't play pansies like Boise did because then sugar daddy will not want to put you on...so you have to play a schedule that guarantees you will be on tv...the money is most important...but then you won't be undefeated, unless you believe in fairy tales, so you won't have that slimmest of chances to get to a BCS bowl. Sounds like Hobson's choice to me!

    Ute fans can hardly believe that this is the best business plan desperate men in Provo could conger up!

  • TheSpiker
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:23 p.m.

    This has been an incredible summer for the state of Utah. Who could have predicted months ago that instead of being hidden away in the MTN closet we would have a team in the PAC and another with fantastic exposure as an independent in the 'ESPN Conference'? Go Utah. Go BYU. Let's enjoy at least one day in the sunshine together.

  • dfoke05
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:24 p.m.

    It is just my opinion but I would rather have BYU stay Independent before going to the Big 12. Texas runs that conference and get's whatever they want. If necessary at other schools expense. Like the new Texas Tech coach said before he got his hand slapped, "A conference will not last when one school gets more than the others." Nebraska was smart to bail out.

  • RGinSG
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:27 p.m.

    :Wiley Old School
    Every game televised? First, the Mtn. is a sorry imitation of "televised." Second, only available on DirectTV and Comcast. Third, only available in the MWC area. Best exposure and access was from KSL radio live streaming... not too many folks out there dedicated enough to do that.

  • Veritas Aequitas
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:29 p.m.

    UTAH MAN AM I | 4:46 p.m.
    "but thanks for guaranteeing that the rivalry game will be shown on big boy sports TV."
    ===

    Ummm what rivalry game?

    Have Dr. Hill call Holmoe the stud and see if Utah can get a 3-1.

    Who wants to play in a Mid-Major 45,000 RES when they can sell out LES?

    The hatred is not worth BYU propping up the Utes anymore. Getting old carrying you kids and your anti zoob schtick. Time for the hatred, and 2/3rd of Utah's fanbase to realize they don't like football, and go back to "living hard"...

    Maybe the Ute Fans can bring inflatable dolls of USC's players moms into the colleseum (right there in East LA).

    You're not in Happy Valley plans anymore.

  • RGinSG
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:30 p.m.

    I've followed BYU Softball from day one (my daughter played at Wisconsin), so I'm still unsettled about what happens to a very good softball program and a storied track program. I suppose deals can be made to have them compete in other conferences. Seems a stretch to have them competing independently. But I certainly hope to hear something soon on a good arrangement for these deserving teams.

  • utesovertide
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:33 p.m.

    This is great news. I didn't like the fact that BYU was going to be stuck in the MTN while Utah moved on. I wanted some of the other deserving Non-BCS teams to get some recognition.

    I have some questions though on the deal with ESPN, and the BCS/Bowl status of BYU that won't be answered here, but we'll see played out over the next few years.

    Is ESPN going to force BYU to weekday play like they did originally to the MWC?

    How much is ESPN paying BYU? How will BYU measure success without a Conference Championship? What bowls will they get tie-ins with? And will BYU be able to load their schedule with great teams, since many of the big teams they will need to play are in large conferences which eats up their available game spots?

    I think the indie thing for BYU is great. But those who say Utes are jealous are off base. I for one like the idea of stability and consistent returns that the PAC will offer Utah. TV and constant BCS money every year.

    Utah as a state has had an amazing summer!

  • Red Leader
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:35 p.m.

    Good for BYU. I'm looking forward to being able to see the games.

    BYU fans: don't even try to rub this in - they would have much rather had a BCS conference invite. Just as you say the Utes were a second choice for the PAC, this was BYU's second choice... and we haven't seen any mention of a BCS deal (but as was said above, going undefeated will maybe a little easier without playing TCU, Boise State, and Utah - just hope they don't over-schedule).

    Ute fans: there's no reason to be anything but happy for BYU in this case. This makes it easier for the rivalry to continue.

    Good luck Cougs in all games but one...

  • toosmartforyou
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:42 p.m.

    All those who say the lack of discussion of specific monetary facts is a sign that BYU won't get enough money, or that Utah will get "piles" more money than BYU, or complaining their tithing money goes towards BYU Football, sorely need to evaluate their position. BYU just happens to be one of ONLY TWO football programs in the country that is in the black every year. Not ONE NICKEL of tithing goes towards BYU Football; hasn't for years. BYU gets tons more money from non-sharing independence ESPN revenues than they ever would from a re-worked Mtn deal. Utah, on the other hand, has one of the smallest (tied for smallest, actually) stadiums in the PAC 12 Conference. They need to have to expand their stadium. With the way state revenues are looking, how hard will that be and at what cost? BYU had to expand years ago and even while Crowton was the coach BYU sold more seats that the U. Plus, our taxes will build your new stadium, whether we are Utah fans or not. You should be congratularting us! You're going to resemble the bottom-feeders now = the underachieving Arizona schools!

  • crazyvito
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:50 p.m.

    Thank you Brothers Samuelson and Holmoe for giving me the opportunity to see my beloved Cougs in such "storied" football locales as Ruston Louisiana, Las Cruces New Mexico and Moscow Idaho.

  • SpanishImmersed
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:52 p.m.



    What Ute fans don't realize is that the BCS continues to be an anti-trust monopoly that will be challenged until all teams have equal and fair access to a national championship decided on the field.

    Every regular season game should count for conference champions and independents to be seeded in a playoff. The bowls will probably be used to sponsor each phase of the playoff.

    Currently, money and greed control college football. It has already begun this year with the pre-season opinion polls which have already eliminated most teams below their Top 25 from having a shot at their mythical national title.

  • cynic
    Sept. 1, 2010 5:56 p.m.

    Gotta chuckle at Ute fans like Gordon coming on here, referring to BYU fans as Y-ners, and belittling the deal BYU just brokered. You are certainly right, Gordon, that BYU will have a difficult time getting to a BCS bowl game, but three other things are certainly clear: 1) It won't be any harder than if they had stayed in the MWC; 2) It won't be any harder for them to get to the BCS than it will for Utah; and 3) Even if they don't get to a BCS game, a good season will land them in a lot better bowl game than the Las Vegas Bowl, and probably a lot better bowl than the Utes will be in.

    Both Utah and BYU have put themselves in good positions, and neither would want to trade with the other. We should be happy for each other.

  • rvalens2
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:04 p.m.

    As a UTE fan I'm happy for BYU and its fans!

    I was hoping they would take the plunge and choose independence. It's a gutsy move but one I think will help BYU in the long run.

    I ask only one thing ... please ... keep a game date open to play Utah. I love the rivalry and wish both the Utes and Cougs continuing success. It just wouldn't be the same if we could no longer play you.

    It was great go see BYU and Utah make such BIG moves this summer. Bye, bye lousy Mtn Network may you die a quick death.

  • Linus
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:05 p.m.

    I couldn't be more pleased! Most of our family's graduates matriculated from the University of Utah. All members of our family are Latter-day Saints. We will certainly be cheering for Utah and BYU.

    All this good news for both our schools would be eclipsed by news that they won't schedule or play each other any more. I was worried they might meet in the Vegas Bowl, but happy day! That won't happen now. I say let us bury the holy war and put an end to the hate!

  • California
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:07 p.m.

    "My daddy can beat up your daddy".

    Time to grow up children. You all sound like 4 year olds. It is hard to believe that you or most likely in college or graduates.

  • rvalens2
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:08 p.m.

    Just one more thing ...

    It was a class act to invite Lavell Edwards to the proceedings. BYU wouldn't be where it is today without his groundbreaking work.

  • PP
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:11 p.m.

    Johnny Triumph | 2:13 p.m. Sept. 1, 2010
    How quickly will Directv drop the mtn from basic packages in Utah?
    -------------------
    If a tree falls on the mtn and no one is around to watch did it really happen? Does anyone even care?

  • ute alumni
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:12 p.m.

    willary with a name like that you can't be taken seriuosly. (i'd drop the name) and gordy:
    where are you getting your info from? none of your remarks are accurate, but then i guess that doesn't matter when you are dillusional. it is the likes of you two that I am a byu fan and a utah graduate.
    Here's just a few facts:
    most televised games will be on saturday.
    all games will be televised and on line.
    end of season ranking in the top 14 and automatic BCS bid.
    8 years espn contract.
    No revenue sharing.

    utah doesn't share in a full split until year 5.

  • swell
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:15 p.m.

    Hey ute fan stop bringing up the BCS conference argument. Just because your in a auto qualifying conference doesn't mean you can go 7-5 and go to the BCS bowl promised land. Both BYU and Utah has alot to prove the next couple years and that is win,win,win. So Utes stop counting your money and BCS appearances before they hatch. At least Yners as you call us, are realistic and we know a no loss or one loss is the only hope we have but at least we aren't in dream land like u!! Did you know ESPN contract and BYUtv advertising pays starting next year? Your PAC 12 contract doesn't pay you for 4 years. hmmmm. After a 8-4 season LES sells out. After a Utah 8-4 seasons Ute fan sells out and cheers for USC. Thats why ESPN made an 8 yr agreement with BYU. Now go throw your beer on an Oregon Duck!!!

  • USportsFan
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:18 p.m.

    Veritas Aequitas,
    Have Dr. Hill call Holmoe the stud and see if Utah can get a 3-1.


    Sure, Utah will agree to play 3 home games at RES for 1 away in LES. I don't think that is what you were saying though.

    I have to ask, why the hatred with Utah?
    Today BYU improved their situation. I was skeptical with the situation, even yesterday. Be happy with that. It isn't quite as nice as being in the PAC, but that wasn't really an option. But I really think that things will be better in the future than in the MWC.

    Holmoe intends to go on with the rivalry game and will probably schedule that game at RES in 2011 and every other year at LES.

    So, unless you are planning on joining the ranks of Emperor Palpatine, let the hatred go.

  • entropy
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:19 p.m.

    toosmartforyou


    Amen Brother!!!!!!!!!!

  • bigdaddy
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:22 p.m.

    @williary

    Maybe your head's so far up there that there's no hope of you ever seeing the light.

    1). Do you have supporting documentation verifying Utah's getting $15-$20 million or is this more Ute fan pie in the sky "we're going to dominate the Pac 10" hype? Articles I read this past summer (not written by members of Utah media) put the potential number for the new media contract much lower since it's been projected that both Utah and Colorado will be a drain on the revenue and not bring any financial might of their own. It even estimated that with USC's sanctions and likely decline in TV appeal that the deal will be even less than the current. Then on top of that you have to divide it up by two extra mouths to feed.

    2).Same requirements for BYU to get into the BCS, we just need to finish in the top 12 to get an invite. Nothing changed there. Meanwhile, with Utah being the lowest budgeted team in the Pac 10 by far, their chances of a Rose Bowl are worse than Washington St. How many have they made?

  • bigdaddy
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:31 p.m.

    @statman9

    Other big name opponents that are currently working on schedules with BYU are Clemson, Texas Tech and I've heard Oklahoma St.

  • Justmythoughts
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:36 p.m.

    I can't express my joy and happiness enough that BYU is leaving the Mountain West Conference and Craig Thompson.....How would you like to be him...He lost BYU and Utah in the same year because he was unwilling to know who the leaders of his conference were. Playing the basketball tournament every year on UNLV's home court, not allowing BYU to rebroadcast games, crappy bowl tie-ins, not to mention that lousy Mtn. network, etc. it went on and on. Good riddance.

  • bigdaddy
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:40 p.m.

    @essay

    Right now it's the same parameters for inclusion to BCS bowls that it was with the MWC. BYU just needs to finish in the top 12 of the final season BCS standings.

    As for getting an independent exception to the BCS like ND has, the BCS is meeting sometime in the next week to discuss this. WE'll know more next week.

  • Bugoff
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:40 p.m.

    Beck just signed an extension with the Redskins. Hall looks like he is making the Cardinals.

    USC's AD just said he would have to consider going independent.

    Overall it is a bad day to be a troll.

  • Veritas Aequitas
    Sept. 1, 2010 6:50 p.m.

    USportsFan | 6:18 p.m.

    When the PAC deal was signed, many Ute fans were claiming that Utah would only play BYU on a 3-1, so that comment was directed at them.

    So, yeah, see if that deal is still the only chance BYU has at playing Utah.

    Hill said he didn't know if it could be worked out.

    Both Bronco and Holmoe are tired of the Ute "anti-zoob" schtick, and commented at the time that they would like to see the "rivalry calm down".

    Don't expect to see BYU in RES for many years.

    But it's all good. Too bad you read hate into it.

    It's just time for Utah to let go of BYU's apron strings.

    Smile... It's all good...

    And when Chris B becomes ungrounded from the computer, he can continue his countdown until Holmoe is fired. We're on day six of Holmoe's seven days.

    Unless he's going back to posting as NavalVet or Otis or HedgeHog...

  • SportsFan
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:01 p.m.

    willary

    "Utah will be getting aprx. $15-20M from it's Pac-12 TV"

    Utah will never get close to $15-20 million from the PAC and the vast majority of Utah's games will be local or regional broadcasts.

    Ironically, the Utes will have at least one guaranteed nationally televised game every other year, when they come to Provo.

  • MiP
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:01 p.m.

    Congrats BYU. Sounds like you'll get out of this pretty good.

    Still, while this sounds like a great deal, I wonder if it's all the 'awesomeness' some of you have described on these posts. Perhaps the spin doctors are just cranking it out.

    For example, ESPN/ESPN 2 in 99.5% of households? I have my doubts.

    Furthermore, BYUTV in 55 million homes? Sure, but how many people are actually watching it? In my neck of the woods, it's nestled neatly between C-Span 3 and a slew of christian channels like ETWN. My guess is that few college FB fans that are non-LDS or non-Y alums will not tune in to games on BYUTV. (Because if ESPN has passed on it, it's likely not going to be great competition---and if it's on a Saturday, people will opt for the bigger games on ABC and CBS).

    I think the deal is great for Y fans, but I'm not going to jump to conclusions that they'll be in everyone's home and that folk out here in Big-Ten country are going to Rise and Shout...

  • jazzbball
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:03 p.m.

    I applaud all the class comments of several Ute fans here.

    I agree this has been a great summer for Utah and BYU. Good bye and Good Riddance MWC!!!

    Congrats BYU, and as I said earlier in the summer, congrats Utah.

  • USportsFan
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:07 p.m.

    bigdaddy,

    Right now it's the same parameters for inclusion to BCS bowls that it was with the MWC. BYU just needs to finish in the top 12 of the final season BCS standings...

    And hope for an at-large invite. Even if they finish in the top 12 of the BCS standings, it won't guarantee them of a BCS game.

  • Bugoff
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:22 p.m.

    TX and BYU are the new model for the teams with large TV draws. USC is not going to just keep doing the status quo.

    The BCS contract is up in 2 years. Who knows what it will morph into but I expect some step towards a play off system. I also expect the edition of another BCS bowl in the Jerry dome in Dallas.

    NBC, Fox, ESPN, CBS are starting to figure out it is much cheaper to do direct deals with the best TV draws than to subsidize a whole conference.

    They are also figuring out that the conferences are fluid and fragile and tradition is way over rated compared to TV revenue.

    Look for more major change in the next 2 years. More TX, BYU type deals and more conference realignments.

    If there is a playoff the TV powers can arrange more interesting regular season games that draw (and pay) and still have the big draw teams make the top 16 playoff teams with 2 losses. They have less need of televising poor match ups so the contenders can go undefeated by avoiding each other.

    BYU will be positioned well for BCS changes.

  • TRUTH
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:26 p.m.

    Laughable that Yewties are concerned for the Y basketball options.........Don't worry Yewts, your basketball team will find the basement of the pac 12 in the first week and never be seen again,Just like your football program!

  • CACoug
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:37 p.m.

    I re-iterate. Why the big hoo-hah about the BCS aspects of this? The BCS won't be around in present format within just a very few years. Those who hitched their wagon to it will have to scramble to fit into the new national framework, whatever its form. Will BYU have automatic access? Who knows. BUt no worse off than being associated perpetually with only regional small-market teams. In the meantime, It won't be an easy road. But it's their own to chart, not be dictated by a limited organization. If schools aren't afraid to take them on, they'll have plenty of interested football opponents, more interest than 75% of MWC siblings gave them. And in other sports the WCC has a better, wider base than naysayers are afraid to give them credit for, as good as if not better than most of the MWC.

  • Darth Vader
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:38 p.m.

    Rise and shout! Now go and win games and enjoy the ride.

  • TRUTH
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:38 p.m.

    BYU just joined Texas, USC, Oklahoma, Florida as independents!

    What?

    You didn't know that USC, Florida, Texas and Oklahoma are independent?

    They are the only reason there is a Big 12 or Pac 12 or SEC......no one cares about the rest of the schools!

  • manaen
    Sept. 1, 2010 7:54 p.m.

    I'm a BYU fan in SoCal.

    Looks like Utah and BYU each landed the best possible deal they could get this year. Congrats to both.

    I'd come to see the.mtn as a faith-based network: BYU's games were things hoped for but not seen.

    As BYU and Utah go our separate ways, I'm heartened by the class most Utah fans have shown in your comments. Thanks.

    This will, however, prevent teh realization of a treasured dream I had:
    * BYU stayed in the MWC for a couple more years
    * BYU and Utah continue to end their seasons playing each other
    * TCU beats BYU to win the MWC
    * Undefeated TCU goes to a BCS bowl...
    * Sending 2nd-place BYU to the Las Vegas Bowl to play the PAC's #5 team...
    * 7-5 Utah! for the first consecutive games between these two venerable rivals.

  • PCH Ute
    Sept. 1, 2010 8:07 p.m.

    The TV exposure is great.............. if you can beat the "storied" programs that ESPN can hook you up with. ESPN isn't going to turn into the KBYU2 for you.

    To break in to the BCS as an independent you will have to beat good teams that beat other good teams, otherwise the computers will destroy you.

    Good Luck. It should be interesting.

  • Bugoff
    Sept. 1, 2010 8:13 p.m.

    Actually USC's AD said today that he would HAVE to look at independence.

    TX and OK are essentially independent since they control their own broadcast rights (but do not have BYU's truck or facility).

    FL will certainly explore the option and probably is already. OH State should be also.

  • WeberUte
    Sept. 1, 2010 8:18 p.m.

    Thoughts from a Ute fan: 1 - ESPN contract is fantastic and I'm jealous 2 - BYU still needs to get into a conference (I wish it were PAC12). I just don't see what meaning a season has anymore for BYU once they lose a game -- it's just a bunch of exhibition games at that point. 3 - WCC is a major downgrade in other sports no matter how fun it will be to play Gonzaga 4 - Overall a good move because you just can't overstate how horrible the mountain TV deal is.

  • I say this
    Sept. 1, 2010 8:21 p.m.

    I agree...can you imagine Craig Thompson talking to Boise, Fresno, and Nevada.....now. He is a laughing stock.

  • Dave from Taylorsville
    Sept. 1, 2010 8:37 p.m.

    After 149 comments . . .

    No Chris B. - No Hedgehog - No Otis Spunkmire

    And as for the Ute fans that have commented, they have been pretty much on the level and without the "trollness" of the above mentioned worms.

    I did notice on Rivals comments that thee were those who said BYU would never develop a schedule like Notre Dames.

    Well, the boys in the blue and gold play 3 ranked teams (opening polls) this year. BYU plays 3 as well.

    NDs schedule is Purdue, Mich., Mich. St., Stanford, Boston Col, Pitt, Western Mich., navy, Tulsa, Utah, Army and USC.

    Not bad, but it does have it's cream puffs.

    BYU should have no problem getting a comparable schedule.

    Come on Chris B. and Hedge . . . where are you???

  • soonerschooner
    Sept. 1, 2010 8:41 p.m.

    I have supported BYU football and have coached several kids on past and present teams. I love football. But to sell out all the other sports for the all mighty dollar and the way it was done is an embarrassment to the school and the church. They drop wrestling and Gymnastics to save money and now they turn around and are going to have to drop other sports to make a few more million dollars. The missionary tool does not fly. Just like when they dropped athletics at BYU Idaho this is a big mistake for other athletes besides football players. I hope they never win again in football and it turns around on them. They could have had the same exposure with a tougher MWC and been just as exposed to the world. Sad day for the church and the now very jv sports at BYU.

  • JMT
    Sept. 1, 2010 8:47 p.m.

    I do not know the requirements for an independent to get into a BCS though in general this is a better deal for BYU. I am die-hard BYU though reality check is BYU in the national championship is slim to none. Getting into a BCS game, decent chance.

    I cannot believe that a 1-loss BYU with quality wins over BCS Conference teams won't qualify them for BCS. Say they beat Oregon State, Utah, Norte Dame and lose a respectable game to Texas, run the rest of the weak schedule. If they do not get into a BCS bowl they get into another major bowl and likely play on New Years Day.

    And they won't have to share bowl money with anyone. The money from the Vegas bowl was weak, even worse when split 9 ways.

    And the exposure...imagine recruiting when you tell them they are going to play on 300 million TV sets a year, plus a big bowl game. They will hit more TV sets than the PAC-10.

    This is a big deal for BYU, if they win! Win and it all comes together. Lay eggs and South Dakota bowl looks good.

  • CougarOnTheProwl
    Sept. 1, 2010 8:59 p.m.

    It sure pays to be in good standing with espn doesn't it? nice to have an 8 year agreement on top of the byu tv that currently is in nearly 60 million homes across the nation. And now with an agreement to play Notre Dame well into the future, BYU will be on NBC when they play them.

  • MiP
    Sept. 1, 2010 9:23 p.m.

    @ JMT

    Currently, the only independent team that has a BCS "exception" is Notre Dame. Army and Navy (the only others since W. Kentucky joined the Sun Belt) must qualify like WAC and MWC teams. Many project Navy might challenge as a BCS buster.

    The BCS won't chance for the next couple of years which means when BYU begins its independence in 2011, they'll still be vying as a BCS-buster.

    Perhaps when they renew the BCS that might change. In the meantime, I believe BYU will have to run the table. The chances of them being ranked in the top ten and/or be ahead of at least one of the BCS conference champions would be slim if they do not.

    Not saying I agree with that, but that's been the precedence. All busters, to this point have been undefeated.

    Not impossible for BYU in 2011, but difficult if they are playing "choice" opponents like ESPN and AD Holmoe are promising.

  • John Stewart Pill
    Sept. 1, 2010 9:27 p.m.

    This is going to radical to the max!!!!!

  • BSU BRONCO!!
    Sept. 1, 2010 9:36 p.m.

    So I take it that the mighty powerful kitties dont want to have to deal with being sent to the wood shed by Boise and TCU every year. Now you can play Weber State, Utah State, Southern Utah, ISU, and that power house Notre Dame every year. Whose your rival going to be now SUU or Weber! If its about the money, which it is. Heres an idea run the table go to a bowl that matters and get the million dollar payday. There will be more money thru TV revenue however you still wont be going to a BCS game anytime in the next 10 to 15 years. So continue to play in a bowl that dosnt matter and enjoy watching the Broncos win more BCS games!

  • Duh
    Sept. 1, 2010 9:41 p.m.

    I like how Tom said, we are willing to take the risk. Yes it is a risk but the dividends are endless. I think this will make a great recruiting tool. True we have to get quality wins and can't afford to lose to any lower tier teams. Every team has them, even Florida, Oklahoma and Ohio State. We may take a few loses along the way, we are not going to just come out and rule over everyone but we have the potential to do great things. Kudos BYU, I am excited for the years to come. Goodbye MWC and the MTN. Hello ESPN and ABC. And as a side note, good luck Utes in the PAC-10, you have great potential and I wish the best......until you play us.

  • Hutterite
    Sept. 1, 2010 9:49 p.m.

    Why not simply put the focus of the institution where it belongs...on scholarly pursuits?

  • Hellooo
    Sept. 1, 2010 9:50 p.m.

    The way I see it is MWC took ESPN's most regularly scheduled draw when they recruited BSU. So, they have replaced the Broncos, with the Cougars. Nice work ESPN and probably for less total money. Also, with regard to the schedule check out the schedule of the number three ranked team in the nation this year. One quality win, and some good, but not great teams and BSU could be in the National Championship Game. Each game now really is all that matters for BYU. Now that is great training for every person and each athlete.

  • Tuffy Parker
    Sept. 1, 2010 10:28 p.m.

    Anyone seen Hedgie??? I'm concerned that he may have been wringing his hands so hard today that he is no longer able to type...

    Also, does anyone besides me believe that Boise St. now regrets moving to the MWC? When they entered as a replacement for Utah, their TV revenue would have been a wash at best. Now w/o BYU and adding the two WAC defectors it's gotta be less than what they were getting before. Simple math would suggest something just less than $1MM per MWC team. Even assuming they're able to keep rolling like they have done for the last few years and bust the BCS again, they'll now have to share the revenue with more schools.

  • USportsFan
    Sept. 1, 2010 10:39 p.m.

    Duh,

    Somehow I doubt that BYU football recruiting will really be affected by this move. Because: Mendenhall noted that "a kid who wants the BYU experience can only get it at BYU."

    So, I doubt that getting more exposure and losing to Texas or Notre Dame will change someone's thinking to make them want to go to BYU.

    Really, the kids that want to go to BYU will go to BYU. I don't think that the move makes a difference. Just like the Utes move to the PAC wasn't going to make any difference...

  • scenic view
    Sept. 1, 2010 10:51 p.m.

    BSU BRONCO

    "dont want to have to deal with being sent to the wood shed by Boise"

    Your Broncos will be visiting LES in 2012. Crowton is long gone and Jake Heaps will be playing his third year as a starter.

    Good luck on making good on your clueless "sending BYU to the wood shed" boast.

    Even in the weakened MWC, with BYU and Utah both gone, Boise State's days of undefeated conference championships will quickly end. UNLV used to own their previous conference in basketball just like Boise State has owned the WAC in football. Then the Rebels joined the MWC and 3rd and 4th place conference finishes became the norm for UNLV.

  • MUSSing with U
    Sept. 1, 2010 11:19 p.m.

    BSU BRONCO!!

    You sound just like another incarnation of the most BYU-obsessed, clueless DN blogger, hedgehog.

    BYU's rival will always be Utah; it's the least the Cougars can do for the Utes who will still get to play on national television at least once every other year when they visit LES.

  • BYU 99
    Sept. 1, 2010 11:55 p.m.

    Since their 1984 National Championship the Cougars are free! Let's hope this helps "let's the oppressed (since 84) go free. Perhaps this is the way to finally go to a BCS game.
    I was hoping that BYU would have made a good deal with the Mountain West but this is the best they could do. They weren't motivated by respect from the BSC but more towards getting the best TV/revenue and television access for all fans inside and outside of the church.
    The only downfall is leaving a decent conference in the other 12 sports for the West Coast Conference who have Gonzaga and St. Mary's but not much competition. However, there is still equal opportunity for a championship in the other sports because their are playoffs.

  • B
    Sept. 1, 2010 11:55 p.m.

    I remember BYU and ESPN back in the day. They kind of made each other. Now ESPN is the giant of the sporting world and BYU is going to benefit BIG TIME!
    I really hope the BYU/Notre Dame game turns into a new major rivalry. I like it.

    It seem really weird that the MWC has no presence in the state of Utah now. I hope they extend an invite to USU.

  • Bugoff
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:05 a.m.

    Recruiting for the minor sports is really going to rocket internationally. BYU will draw athletes from Asia, Europe, Central/South America and maybe Africa.

    BYU will find a great home for track, swimming and diving etc. They can sponsor and televise their own invitationals.

    As the Football team moves out of the Intermountain region the recruiting will pick up in the South, MidWest and East. BYU will be stronger, faster and have more non members.

    The blow up of the WAC 5 year deal was a blessing. The more national games BYU schedules the more relevant they are nationally.

    We will see how BSU fares as the season wears on. There is already controversy about their ranking and schedule strength. With out ESPN games they lose relevance and voting support.

    The BCS is supposed to be moving toward some type of playoff system.

    As long as BYU can get into the playoffs they will be very relevant.

    The TX model is going to affect teams like USC, FL and maybe OH State. USC could easily get 30-40 million a year in TV if they stiffed the PAC instead of subsidizing the deadwood.

  • 72ute
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:22 a.m.

    Congratulations to BYU. Can't wait to watch you play every Tuesday. Nice.

  • blueturf
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:43 a.m.

    I like the move alot BYU helped put ESPN on the map with consistent college football games (read the article Yewtie fans) Now ESPN is returning the favor. I like the idea of playig Notre Dame, so i will see BYU on either NBC,BYU-TV, or ESPN, and you know Texas will be a good draw to. Meanwhile the Kewgs will get their chance at BSU in 2012....and as a afterthought will the mtn. become a PBS station for sports? and What was Patterson saying about the TCU Toads 2 weeks ago?

  • Hellooo
    Sept. 2, 2010 1:28 a.m.

    @utah alumni and Gordon good posts just a couple of more points, the PAC-12 does not now nor do they plan in the future to evenly share TV revenue. In three years, the U will share evenly in bowl revenues (that is a big deal). TV revenues is divided based totally on individual appearances. This is why the U to compete is augmenting its fund raising because while it will have more money it will not be equal money with the other members. To some extent this is why the Arizona schools and the smaller market PAC-10 teams do not compete equally with USC.

  • deej33
    Sept. 2, 2010 1:53 a.m.

    BYU losing a few football games under the new arrangement does not ruin the season (as some have suggested) any more than it did in the MWC. Either way, the hope for a conference championship or BCS bowl is gone. Therefore, BYU has nothing to lose (and much to gain) by going independent.

    Look at Notre Dame. The hope each year is to get to the BCS game, but if not, they're fighting for a bowl game berth and giving their fans excellent match-ups week after week on national TV. So it will be with the Cougars!!




  • Brian Utley
    Sept. 2, 2010 1:56 a.m.

    I'm wondering about the players. How the present underclassmen and new recruits are feeling about all of this. New exposure for them! Wow! What a Labor Day present to be handed.

  • One Angry Salebarn Worker
    Sept. 2, 2010 4:51 a.m.

    Only two programs in the entire west have a greater sports legacy than BYU, and that's USC football, and UCLA basketball. But because interest in only regional for those teams, only BYU could command the interest from national partners that is has. Phenomenal home run Coogs.

  • Uncle Rico
    Sept. 2, 2010 5:42 a.m.

    Take that Utah.

  • fangdoc
    Sept. 2, 2010 7:16 a.m.

    YES! It is a great day for BYU. We are finally out from under the inferior TV arrangement of the MWC. Understand this...Boise State already regrets entering into the MWC headaches and will leave soon, as will TCU. The MWC, with its TV, is a disaster. The Bronco fans are very used to seeing their boys on TV every week, but that will come to a screeching halt next year. Ute fans...enjoy your home games...and be ready to travel to watch them on the road. I don't forsee them on TV much. The PAC 11 has very little Utah TV coverage.

  • Jeff R.
    Sept. 2, 2010 7:31 a.m.

    Great move by BYU. Utah and their fans will agree that seeing the Holy war on ESPN or ABC will be 5,000 times better than Todd Christianson and the nedicore at best mnt. The schedule may look a little bit on the weak side but nothing worse than the lower teir of the MWC. The 2011 and 2012 schedules are starting to fill out nicely. Once those years are set, everything after 2012 will be cake. Especially if BYU wins big in 11' and 12'. I cant wait to see what teams we will get to come to Provo now that it will be on ESPN. Also cant wait to see what damage UTAH can do to the Pac-10. BYU and Utah have owned the Pac-10 the last 5 seasons and hope that Utah will make a great run in 11' and beyond. This is great for the entire Wasatch front exept for Logan. The least the MWC can do is invite USU for being such an honest program through this whole process. I expect TCU to look elsewhere at the end of this season since the MWC BCS chances are diminished.

  • UU702
    Sept. 2, 2010 8:12 a.m.

    Uncle Rico:"Take that Utah?"

    It is all about the Utes 24/7 and it's happening even faster than everyone thought!

  • Oblio
    Sept. 2, 2010 8:34 a.m.

    I am a Ute Fan and I am really excited for BYU-- it sounds like a great deal-- a little uncertain, but a great deal. I am looking forward to being able to cheer for BYU and not have its victories adversely affect my Utes. Here's to hoping they still play each other every year (and Utah wins them all).

  • Utefan
    Sept. 2, 2010 8:40 a.m.

    I think Uncle Rico sums up the attitude in Provo that does indeed confirm that little brother had to do something even if in the process he did it behind the backs of his fellow conference members, asked of others what he himself would not commit to and then begged ESPN to be its sugar daddy for Wednesday and Thursday nites, all so he could say, "Take that, Utah!" After the Yners recover from shooting themselves in the foot, they will still be walking with a large limp and still be little brother with no change at the BCS!

  • floridian
    Sept. 2, 2010 9:13 a.m.

    What's the matter DN, didn't like my comment to an earlier story? It's obvious that BYU is in it only for the almighty $$$, which disappoints me as a member of the Church. Never thought the Church leaders would allow athletic $$$s to be a motivator. And don't tell me it's a missionary tool. So they are braggin' that BYU has a six game series with ND. AF, Army, and Navy played ND back in its heydey and probably each one has beated ND at least six times. Go Falcons!

  • Silence Dogood1
    Sept. 2, 2010 9:55 a.m.

    We've got the stage..... now let's win some games....go cougs!

  • Buster
    Sept. 2, 2010 10:01 a.m.

    They are all with NavalVet:

    He's drinking their tears...

  • maximum
    Sept. 2, 2010 10:24 a.m.

    YEA!!!!!
    Now I can stop complaining about DISH Network not carrying The Mtn Sports Network. I wonder if this will be the beginning of the end of The Mtn? I bet Comcast is hating life right now.

  • yankee doodle
    Sept. 2, 2010 11:21 a.m.

    Utefan is really jealous right now, ha ahaaaa. you really think you will be perennial BCS contenders in the Pac-12? Ha ahaha whatever, keep dreamin' Pootes.

  • BYUSoCal
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:07 p.m.

    So sweet... Nicely done Tom and others!
    Not only great national exposure with all games available everywhere... but now I will have more BYU Basketball games attend down here in So Cal. Living in Orange County my trip to SD will still be in place (just to a diferent school) and 3 schools to go see BYU play in LA area.
    SWEET !!

  • stanfunky
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:11 p.m.

    Welcome to mediocrity, BYU. You have just traded a schedule strength averaging around 60 (out of 120) for a future of schedules ranked around 70-75 (based on 2011 and 2012 scheduled opponents). Those WAC schools are dragging you down, which will affect the BCS ranking you will receive.

    And those new bowl tie-ins? None? What??? You have no guaranteed bowl tie-in. Get ready for Shreveport, Detroit, or Toronto. We'll see how that drawing power of your nationwide fanbase does in those locations!

    Let's put it this way - Boise State's projected schedule is stronger than yours for 2011 and 2012. The University of Utah also improves drastically in schedule strength for that year. Face it, you're taking a step (or two) down in competition to look better. Enjoy the ride.

  • yankee doodle
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:14 p.m.

    I totally agree that this is a great day!!
    1. No comments from Hedgie, Durrrlock or Chris B
    2. A new day is dawning on BYU football
    3. Pitt will beat the P-Utes tonight
    Hallelujah

  • yankee doodle
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:19 p.m.

    Stanfunky
    Nice try.
    Wait until you see the schedules after 2012. You need to learn patience Utesies.
    We don't fear the future we are making it for ourselves. And like those MWC schools, namely: Wyoming, SDSU and CSU weren't "dragging? BYU down before? The Pac-12 has its bottom feeders too, and who says the P-Utes won't become one of them?
    Let's see what the future holds shall we?

  • fresnogirl
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:33 p.m.

    If Utah fans aren't jealous, then why are you spending so much time worrying about it and commenting about it and endlessly reading about it?

    If MY team were playing today, I'd be thinking about THEM, not the time the next county over.

  • donburi
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:33 p.m.

    @stanfunky

    You have to start somewhere, or did you miss that part?

    "Holmoe said there will be "a transition period of a couple of years before we achieve the full vision of what football independence can become. To that point we are grateful to a group of schools in the WAC who have agreed to play us in 2011 and 2012 to help us get started in this endeavor."

  • Tom in CA
    Sept. 2, 2010 12:41 p.m.

    @BSU BRONCO!!:

    All you are is a johnny-come-lately. Have a good time in the MWC - what's left of it.

  • lubeansa
    Sept. 2, 2010 1:05 p.m.

    Yeah! Way to go! Finally, a move from the awful Mtn TV. Many cougar fans are thrilled to finally be able to watch their favorite team with this much better TV coverage on ESPN and KBYU. Thank you!

  • Whoa Nellie
    Sept. 2, 2010 1:21 p.m.

    Nice. I too am very pleased with the prospects this move brings. However, I do not look forward to any game that is not on a Saturday.

    @soonerschooner
    "... But to sell out all the other sports for the all mighty dollar and the way it was done is an embarrassment to the school and the church. They drop wrestling and Gymnastics to save money and now they turn around and are going to have to drop other sports to make a few more million dollars. The missionary tool does not fly. Just like when they dropped athletics at BYU Idaho this is a big mistake for other athletes besides football players. I hope they never win again in football and it turns around on them. They could have had the same exposure with a tougher MWC and been just as exposed to the world. Sad day for the church and the now very jv sports at BYU."

    This was not an embarrassment to the school or church, just you. It is endorsed by the church leaders but we'll have to excuse you for not knowing anything about the Mormon church. BTW, wrestling was a casualty of Title IX.

  • Whoa Nellie
    Sept. 2, 2010 1:50 p.m.

    Thanks to all the real Utah fans who have shared their congratulations on this board today. Good luck tonight. I am one who is happy for Utah's invite to the PAC and hope they enjoy success therein. Being in a strong conference would be better for any team's fans and their Olympic sports. Nevertheless, it looks like BYU will achieve their goals of exposure and (fan) access through football independence.

    As has been pointed out in earlier posts, we've yet to see schedules and times of games. I'm afraid once the paint drys this masterpiece won't be as beautiful as we envision it today. But, it will be in HD.

    By the way, some dolt earlier, I believe Cucamongan or something like that, on this site said he lost respect for Tom Holmoe because of the answers Holmoe gave during yesterday's announcement. His answers were not contradictory, they just weren't as spelled out in detail with the underlying parameters. I would bet my life that not one person who has ever posted on DNews, has more integrity than Tom Holmoe. He certainly has more integrity than Cucmongan could ever dream of having.

  • Utefan
    Sept. 2, 2010 2:11 p.m.

    Gotta love that 8 to 9 year commitment to ESPN as your sugar daddy! They agree to put you on Wednesday or Thursday nights and on top of all that you get to have at least 4 games a year with the runts of the WAC litter! True you have a 2 for 1 with Texas and maybe a 3 for 3 with the Irish, but to play on weekdays and with the likes of NMSU, SJSU, USU, etc...I guess the money was soo good that you agreed to swallow your pride!

    Talking to future recruits of the glory of 1984 will be moot, since you not only sold your soul for exposure BUT any realistic chance at a BCS bid!! If these are the higher standards you aspire to, I want nothing to do with them, because they make you look tawdry and myopic!

  • fangdoc
    Sept. 2, 2010 2:42 p.m.

    Come on Utefan...Why does your glass always have to be half empty? No one has swallowed any pride. BYU is simply trying to move forward in a direction that will allow them to build a better program. Yes, it DOES take $$. It always has taken hugh $$. However, BYU has built a respectable program while sharing the $$ with the entire conference. Now they want to try keeping the money in house and go it on their own. No one has warmed up to the TV situation in the MWC. Dish network subscribers are overjoyed right now...I'm one of them. I know you want to think that everything has to do with "U", but it doesn't. Good luck in the PAC 11. I think you'll do well and wish you well. Please show us the same respect.

  • fangdoc
    Sept. 2, 2010 2:45 p.m.

    Come on Utefan...Why does your glass always have to be half empty? No one has swallowed any pride. BYU is simply trying to move forward in a direction that will allow them to build a better program. Yes, it DOES take $$. It always has taken hugh $$. However, BYU has built a respectable program while sharing the $$ with the entire conference. Now they want to try keeping the money in house and go it on their own. No one has warmed up to the TV situation in the MWC. Dish network subscribers are overjoyed right now...I'm one of them. I know you want to think that everything has to do with "U", but it doesn't. Good luck in the PAC 11. I think you'll do well and wish you well. Please show us the same respect.

  • yankee doodle
    Sept. 2, 2010 2:46 p.m.

    Hey Utefan?
    Why don't you take your sour grapes and go to the game tonight and watch your P-Utes lose to Pitt. And tell us how many times the Utes will be playing ND or Texas in the next decade? How many cream puffs are they gonna load up their schedule with year in and year out? If you could put your "hate" aside for a moment you would understand that in a few years BYU is not going to be playing the "WAC litter" as you put it, while the Pootes will be playing Wazoo and Arizona state for the umpteenth time in front of maybe 20,000 fans at Rice-Eccles. And tell us all your basis for BYU never getting a BCS bid, how is it you know this? Was the MWC ever going to get AQ status, obviously not or your precious Utes wouldn't have jumped ship in a tawdry and miopic way. Appalachian State didn't have a realistic chance to beat Michigan at the Big house. Boise realistically shouldn't have beaten Oklahoma with Adrian Peterson. But guess what? .........

  • The Disillusionist
    Sept. 2, 2010 2:49 p.m.

    It's amazing how many more people care about BYU than Utah, judging from the sheer number of comments on BYU articles vs. Utah articles.

    That must really bother the Yooks.

  • Oregonian
    Sept. 2, 2010 2:57 p.m.

    Great deal for BYU. I am a bit worried about scheduling but realize the deal with the WAC is only for the next two years. Since most non-conference games are scheduled 3+ years in advance it will take time to get a good schedule going (if we can, cross our fingers).

    I find it interesting some Utes are ripping this. Try saying the following out loud while keeping a straight face:

    "Utah and ESPN have reached an agreement to broadcast all Ute home games on ESPN or ABC networks. Additionally, the Utes have signed a 3-year deal with Texas and a 6-year deal with Notre Dame to bring these storied programs to Rice-Eccles stadium. Negotiations are also under way with several other big-name programs for home-and-home games."

    Good grief, Utah couldn't get that kind of deal from KUED, let alone the world wide leader in sports.

    Let's all relax. Utah got a great deal by joining the PAC10. BYU also got a great deal. Both worked for their own interests (which are different).

  • ConferenceofChampions
    Sept. 2, 2010 3:33 p.m.

    4 & 2 with Notre Dame. Good not great. Expect to see much of this treatment on scheduling.

  • yankee doodle
    Sept. 2, 2010 3:46 p.m.

    @Oregonian
    Yeah, I couldn't do it.

  • Cougs4Life
    Sept. 2, 2010 3:52 p.m.

    I agree with Oregonian...

    1.) BYU will probably never get invited to the Pac 10/12

    2.) Utah could never get this kind of deal from ESPN and just doesn't have the pull or reputation to even think about being independent.

    Both schools got the best deal that they could right now...we'll see what happens once the "Super Conference" model finally comes to be.

  • sharrona
    Sept. 2, 2010 5:56 p.m.

    Good deal for all

  • iNKSpot Wilsonville, OR
    Dec. 9, 2010 8:57 a.m.

    BYU's independence and ESPN's supporting role are heartening to this Cougar fan. Two things always bothered me about watching games on The Mtn. First, here in Oregon it's only available on DirecTV and at a fairly steep price if you include VS in your package. Second, it was troubling to see the Cougars on the road in so many sparsely filled stadiums. That will likely change with the move from the MWC. It will be nice to see the Cougars play in Corvallis for football next year and in Portland for most other sports.