Guys who might be involved in a sign and trade with Chicago involving Boozer:
Maybe Deng and/or Gibson?
Why not work with Cleveland on a sign and trade for Lebron? The Jazz get
Lebron, Cleveland takes AK. Lebron could play with the best point guard in the
league, and two other All-Stars -- Boozer (I think he'd stay) and Memo, with
Matthews at 2, Milsap, Hayward and Fez as a back-ups, then next year they'd get
the kid from Europe.The Jazz won 50 games without Lebron, went to
the Western Conference Finals without Lebron, they'd win 70 games and the next
10 titles with Lebron.The Miller's could get him into the car
business so he'd make his billion.Send a plane for Lebron.
@ CivilIt's nice to dream. And that is a great one!! However, Salt Lake
is not a big enough stage for Lebran. Sorry!Maybe you can dream up a
great way to attract him to the Jazz....... It can't be money, He can get that
everywhere he goes.
I'm having a hard time seeing why Chicago or Miami who have so much cap space
would want to do a sign and trade. Can anyone think of a reason for them to do a
sign and trade?Orlando would have to in order to get Boozer but
these teams that are way under the cap have no motivation to do a sign and
trade. Seem like just a pipe dream from the Jazz that Boozer won't just walk
In Utah we usually don't get the superstars...we develop them. Its looking like
Amare will go to New York but I'll bet they'll still have room for LaBron. I
think LaBron James will go to Chicago with Boozer, while DeWayne Wade and Chris
Bosh will be in Miami. I don't know much about Deng other than he can play the
3 and 4 positions. I don't think the Jazz are going to be able to offer Boozer
more than 13 or 14 million but Chicago has more cap space.
Is Boozer really the star that sells JAZZ tickets, and will he be such in New
York, Chicago, etc. There is no FA that benefits more from a system of play
than Boozer. At the same position over the last ten years, the system created
Malone 26 & 10- Allstar (what a great player does in this system), AK 17 & 8-
Allstar, Okur 18 & 9- Allstar (alternate), and Boozer 19 & 10- Allstar. Avoid
the hype and find players that are hungry, talented and willing to play team
basketball. It may not win a championship, but the season's games would be much
better to watch.
They'll do a sign and trade because the Jazz can sign Boozer for more money and
years then anyone else. Say Boozer is content with new Jersey and Chicago and
they are both offering him max money. So if Chicago really wants him they can
offer to give the jazz something in return for signing him to six years. If
Boozer is all about the money the Jazz can play NJ and Chi off each other and
actually get something in return for Boozer.
The only reason why either Miami or Chicago would be willing to do a
sign-n-trade is to unload a toxic contract on the books. Any contract they are
that willing to unload, Utah likely would be better off without.
The Jazz once again are sitting on the bench while the big boys play ball.
Without a lost post presence, and a 2 that can create and shoot the three its
lottery time. Get aggressive Jazz. Sign and trade Andre for a longer term
contract of someone who needs cap space next year, and get a real player in
exchange. Keep Korver, sign and trade Boozer for someone. If we play are cards
right we could become a real contender. Unfortunatley unless he is a free agent
foreigner or one of our own resigns, we will pulloff something meaningfull by
trade ever decade or so! Heres what could be done with a little creativity. A
starting lignup of D.Williams, Andre Iguadala, Memo, David Lee, and a nice mid
level free agent. Philly creates cap space and gets off a big contract, Andre
for Andre.(plus whatever) Boozer to New York for Lee and some bench help,and
resign Korver. We get better, longer, and more athletic.
SoCal,My points are these:1- Larry H. Miller would not
have conceded Lebron to the rest of the league.2- It isn't just
about the billion with Lebron, nor just about winning. His chances of winning
with Utah are actually BETTER than anyplace else he is looking into, and you can
become a billionaire in Utah, too. 3- The NBA is fundamentally
flawed when three teams, the Celtics, Lakers and Bulls combine for 39 of 64
championships and 48 finals appearances and now one of them is one of the
primary prospects to buy a championship roster.4- People are talking
about Lebron, Wade and Bosh on the same team. It wouldn't be that complicated
to bring him to Utah to with D-Will and Boozer. 5- You want
visibility? Every Jazz game would be on network TV, because he'd be playing
against a great team almost every night. Who wants to watch him play against
the dogs in the Eastern Conference? The only problem is all Jazz games would
have to start at 6:30 to draw an East Coast audience.
Folks, live in reality. Who is going to take AK's contract now? Once all the
main free agents are signed teams will look to the future. New York will never
sign and trade Lee for Boozer, they are clones and Lee is cheaper. Plus they
look like they got Amare. Why don't the jazz keep AK and get the cap relief
themselves? I say structure an offer to Boozer low in year one, saves lux tax,
and bump it up when AK expires. resign AK for what he's worth, bring in Tomic,
see what else we can pick up.
Fredd what about with AK we schmooze with "Nellie the Buffoon"?
For those that ask why New York would want Boozer. see every news paper coast to
coast. And both Andres are being paid stupid money, ours is just for one more
year. Philly wants to get young, and fast iguadala can ball. Philly is trying to
rebuild. ( see the Elton Brand picture on this years team promo mag?. No.) the
bottom line is at least one will play 40 games plus. Not ours! Aggressive teams
help other teams clear cap space, and done correctly, steal players. Bottom
line, Ger in the Game, or see you in New York in June with ping pong balls. If
your waiting for Kirilinko to do it for you. Try the Russian Summer Games! With
the new collective barganing agreement ahead. Teams will do stupid things! Ask
Joe Johnson, 119k!
Re: Kyle loves BYU/Jazz"I'm having a hard time seeing why Chicago or
Miami ... would want to do a sign and trade. Can anyone think of a reason for
them to do a sign and trade?"Kyle, it's not the teams ... it's
Boozer.In a sign and trade deal, Boozer gets more money and a longer
contract. Wherever Carlos goes, he wants to get the most money/years. The Jazz
are the only ones who can give that to him via a sign and trade deal.I believe the Jazz should only offer that to Boozer if they can't re-sign him
for a reasonable amount. Paying Carlos MAX money is just too risky, given
Boozer's injury history.The other teams would be extremely happy to
watch Boozer just walk away from the Jazz. But that's a BAD deal for Carlos. He
would end up losing a lot of money and an extra NBA year.Carlos
knows this is likely his last chance to cash in for some BIG BUCKS. Six years
from now he'll be 35 years old and likely out of the league.
Things have already gone south for NY. They may sign Boozer just to save some
face. I suspect MIA ends up with Wade and Amare. That says Bosch will do a ST
with CHI. If LBJ stays at CLE, NJ may sign Boozer as a starting Big until Favors
develops, but they sure aren't going to give anything to the Jazz. I think ORL
is the best chance to get a ST for Boozer, but I would take picks and ending
contracts over thinking they will send anyone valuable.
The Jazz don't have any money for a big signing. The Jazz can give Boozer more
than anyone else. The Jazz play in the West, where the teams are better.The Bulls, if they don't take Bosh, will be a good fit.Will
Carlos play with Lebron? Been there, done that. If a team with D-Wade will
take him, look for him to sign there. He'll be a perennial all-star in the
weak-sister east.Stoudemire to the Knicks.David Lee to
No sign and trades. Just trade AK for David West and problem solved.
Anti: David West is a horrible idea. He makes Boozer look like defensive player
of the year. West doesn't even pretend to play defense. Same with Al Jefferson.
Getting either to replace Booz is a huge step backwards.
Boozer has to be encouraged with Stoudemire's offer from NY. Boozer will get at
least as good of deal as Stoudemire. Boozer in spite of injuries is
insurable. Stoudemire is not. Boozer is a better player. HOU is
starting to talk about going after Boozer. They can't without a sign and trade
but their delusional fans are starting to realize they never had any chance at
Bosh. 1/2 of them are demanding Morey do something.Morey is under
pressure to get a PF/C who can play with and then replace Ming when he goes down
again. It may be possible that HOU would trade Scola or Hill. Morey
in a pub stunt offered Scola, and Ariza for Bosh, knowing there was no chance.
Scola is an FA.What if James stays in CLE (even for one
more year)? If James moves then Bosh can follow? The cap teams will
be desperate. Bosh may move first to CHI and force Wade to follow. The cap teams will be desperate. But the Eastern contenders will have to also
make moves. That may give Boozer a better deal and the Jazz
Stoudemire's deal is also driving up Lee's stock. He is actually better than
Stoudemire. NY is hoping to get one more player (Johnson?) and then resign Lee.
However, they just kicked the price of Lee way up. James will go to
CHI or NJ or stay in CLE for a year and then move. He could resign with CLE,
give it one more year and then force a trade. That would give a lot of teams
time to build a supporting cast. He has no incentive to go to a gutted team. He
is not likely to team up with Wade. Bosh makes a lot more sense. Some desperate cap team is going to over pay Boozer. However, Boozer may be
able to get a deal with a playoff team for the same money and not be stuck
playing on a loser. Lee is not an option for the Jazz. Stoudemire
fixed any hope of that. The FA market will be nuts until the best 6
FAs are settled. Rumor is Dirk is staying in DAL.
Lee - PhoenixAmare - NYLeBron - ChicagoBosh - BullsWade
- MiamiBoozer - MiamiJoe - AtlantaTony P. - NYDirk -
DallasSimple as that.
Boozer is getting more talk in HOU. The Jazz need to seriously
consider trading Boozer to a non cap team for something they want and throw away
contracts (non guaranteed, buyouts etc). James (his group) is not
going to go to an organization that he can't control. He is not going to a team
that is gutted of talent. It is not likely he can control CHI. NJ is likely not
controllable but he could join the family so to speak. MIA? He would be second
to Wade. Whatever team James joins he will have to be the indirect
owner of that team. CLE is about the only team that would give him that much
power in the long run.The smartest thing for him to do is to resign
with CLE for one more year with players options for any additional years. One
more try at a championship and the locals will cut him slack. He
then can choose to go to LA, CHI, BOS, ORL or any new contenders (DAL) without
salary cap worries next year. He can force a trade to a contender. He probably
should do that this year.
A team like NJ does not have to use it's cap space right now. They have not cut
any player they really wanted to keep. If they do not get James they can simply
wait until the trade deadline and gobble up some very good players for trade
exemptions. They are not under pressure to win now. They can take
their time and get the right deals on the right players at the right price. NY is desperate. They will over pay. There is an interesting
cat and mouse game going on among James, Wade and Bosh. Bosh can pair with
either in CHI or he can pair with Wade in MIA or he can follow James.James and Wade could end up on the same team but there would be friction for
LBJ can stay in CLE and pray they can find a Gasol, Bynum and Odom hiding under
a rock somewhere. If he faces that fact he will MOVE. NJ is the spot.....Harris
a very good guard who does not require the ball, Lopez a soon to be a top 5
center, Favors a super young talent at the 4. If they also get Bosch, then you
are talking about a front line comparable to the bird celtics....Bird, McHale,
Parish with Walton off the bench....LBJ, Bosch, Lopez with Favors off the bench.
Even without Bosch, but with Lee or Boozer the Nets would have a powerhouse
front court....and one guard already in place with Harris. LBJ has to go to the
Nets, even without the Billionaire contacts he would pick up off the court.
The reason a sign and trade for Boozer is so realistic at this point, is the
fact Boozer chooses the team and the Jazz can offer Max, plus the sixth year.
That is why I really think the Jazz can get better w/o Boozer. It would be
stupid to throw Boozer max money in Utah because I personally think that the
Jazz have a system that is designed for inside first offense, which any Power
forward that can score will do well in. The problem real Jazz fans understand is
that boozer falls asleep on Defense. The Jazz will be fine with or with out
Lebron will stay in ClevelandThe Jazz will do nothingKirilenko could have gone to Phoenix. Jason Richardson would have been
outstanding to get back in a deal like that. Unlikely they could have got
Lopez. Admundson will get away, because someone will be more aggressive than O
Connor who is one of the worst GMs in this great sport.