With the usc sanctions it is very likely we have a rose bowl win the first or
second season. The pac 10 is not as dominant a before. No reason we can't run
the table and make nc game within a few years. And it will be a real nc unlike
the cewgs. Go utes!!
The biggest question isn't whether Utah can beat PAC 10 teams, the Utes have
proven that they can.The biggest question is whether Utah can beat
good PAC 10 teams on the road consistently.Utah hasn't even been
able to consistently win road games in the MWC and the Utes have an abysmal road
record against PAC 10 teams.Utah hasn't had a road win over PAC 10
team with a winning record in over 10 years.
Can't wait to see Chris B. wearing his red "Qwest" t-shirt when the Utes get
shut out by a lowly Washington State team.
wow Chris B, you owe me a new keyboard because I just spewed my chocolate
milkshake all over ityou make even the most crazed BYU fan sound
rationalthe official announcement of Utah's move to the PAC 12
hasn't even been made yet and already you've got the Utes winning a national
championshipand Utah fans complained about BYU's Qwestrofl
Good luck guys, I admit, I am jealous - still hoping for the Big 12 invite,
though it sounds less likely every day : (BYU is still a pretty
unique school that will do quite well despite this, but it certainly gives U the
edge in-state for recruiting.This is great for all of my friends and
neighbors who are Ute fans though, and for all of our kids who end up attending
the U...will be nice for sports, but great for academics.
Chris, you are always so far out there.But, yes, Utah should be
competative from the start.Kyle has a great team going, and the
PAC-10 has been struggling.Might not be a good time to enter the
Pac-12, but to get through the door when they are down, kick some tail and see
how it plays out.This could really elevate the Utah program.Next step, is get a coach and compete in basketball.
Won't happen. Utah just became the Minnesota or Mississippi State of the
Great article. And the exact reason(s) why the Utes were selected to the PAC.Ability to beat BCS teams and winning BCS bowl games.You
need that to get the call from the big leagues.
So, the take away here is this: Utah has a good team for the foreseeable future
and they are heading into a conference in decline. Great.No
question, Utah. Your timing is fantastic. You get to romp through a mediocre
conference and on to the Grand Daddy Bowl Game of them all. Thanks, BCS. You
have truly screwed college football up.
"You get to romp through a mediocre conference and on to the Grand Daddy Bowl
Game of them all. Thanks, BCS. You have truly screwed college football up."B, Got'a love it! sometimes magic happens!
Hopefully Whittingham won't ever have to regret his "The best place to see Vegas
is in the rear view mirror" comment.
I'm jealous, and I hope every team in the league gives the Utes a good kick in
the pants on the way out. Utah going 2-6 in conference feels pretty good to me
Chris B alias hedghog,You guys (I think you are the same person)
are some serious humor on these boards.Do you sit and check every 5
minutes to see if a Utah or BYU story has been posted?Seriously, how
do you get on here so fast after EVERY BYU or Utah story?
Highly doubt it. The utes will be 5th at best. Vegas bowl will be their curse.
It will be a dogfight in football. Ask SC, they lost on the road in the PAC 10
even when they were invincible.For the rest of the sports, Utah
couldn't even crack the top 50 in the nation in overall sports, they will take a
step back from even that.Enjoy being the new Washington State.
Which team in the PAC 10 will take New Mexico's place? You know, the
team that's never very good, but always seems to have Utah's number.The team that always seems to mess up Utah's chances for a conference
championship.How many times will Utah come oh so close to their
first evr Rose Bowl berth, only to see Washington State or Arizona mess it up
for the Utes?Winning conference championships hasn't been Utah's
forte in over half a century.The Utes have only won 6 conference
championships in the last 60 years and Kyle has only won one as Utah's head
Nice logic CG, let's apply what you're saying. Coach Whittingham has 1 conf
championship out of 5 seasons. That's 20%. So In the first five years in teh
league, you're predicting that Utah will get in the RoseBowl with an automatic
BCS bowl berth?Or were you using the 6 in 60 year logic that says it will
be sometime in the first 10 years? Where did you go to school my
friend? That's not a bash on Utah, that's good news. 3 BCS bowl games in less
than 15 years is something only elites accomplish.
have fun getting kick around but wait, the invitation hasn't been announce yet
till 12:30 PM tomorrow. You will be wise to turn it down and stick around with
MWC. Or Kyle won't be around anymor soon when his team get kick around. He
either be the next head coach or be Head D Coach at BYU!
I had this little obnoxious brother, i used to haul around in his little red
wagon. Well he grew up and left for the Pac 12 but he will always be my little
brother. BYU will make sure of that in most of the Novembers to come.Utah won just one conference championship in sports in the MWC. That is all of
last year. That is men's and women's sports programs combined. But
hey, you can dominate the Pac 12 ?Good luck little Brother. I really mean
that, with all my sarcasm, I hope you dominate the Pac 12 The rivalry will
continue Big brother is coming November 27 with a little added incentive. Beat
USC Oregon Stanford and the rest and then BYU beats you it will make it all the
@BluCoug I don't expect Utah's expectations to be as lofty as the first poster
by any means but what does it say when the worst case scenario for Utah
(finishing 5th) is the best case scenario for BYU excluding a BCS game which has
proven elusive to this point? Utah has shown that it can beat Cal,
OSU, AZ, with recent teams. What happened in the past irrelevant at this point.
They've moved on and congratulations to them.
wwookie6 championships in 60 years in the "inferior" WAC and MWC
would be put Utah a little behind Arizona's 2 championships in 16 years in the
WAC.Since Arizona hasn't won a PAC 10 championship or played in a
Rose Bowl in 30 years, even with a team that finished #4/#4, 12-1 back in
1998,using that logic says that Utah might not play in a Rose Bowl
in the next 30 years.Lots of teams have been one or two hit wonders
and then faded back into oblivion.I wouldn't put too much stock in
those two BCS games in 6 years until Utah has proven that they can sustain that
level of performance.The Utes have never had more than two Top 25
finishes in a row.Try making it three in a row this year. Then do it
again. And again.If finishing in the Top 25 is such a trite little
accomplishment, why has Utah's "elite" football program only managed it 6
times?Keep trying. BYU fans will be watching.
Great news for the Utes! PAC- whatever it will be called will certainly provide
some awesome opportunities. Word on the street (from Ogden and Logan) is that
the Utes want to retain Weber State and USU for non-conference games - - in
addition to the BYU game. That will ensure RES will sell out for at least 1-2
games - the non-conference ones with the local teams! Problem is Dr.Hill and
Kyle - -in the local paper and to the Crimson Club just a year ago were "fully
committed to upgrading the non-conference schedule". Despite Ronnie Mac's
presence in Ogden and Gary at USU . . retaining these teams year in and year out
certainly isn't an upgrade. But then again, being the the PAC-whatever will put
2 or more conference losses on the schedule so they pretty much have to dumb up
the non-conf. side of things just like the SEC, Big 10 etc. Disappointing to
see Dr. Hill & Coach Whit go back on their "committment" to upgrade the
non-conf. schedule, but good luck to the Utes in the new conf.
Worst case scenario would be Utah joining Washington State at the bottom of the
conference and becoming nothing but cannon fodder for the top teams in the
PAC.Utah hasn't proven that they can win on the road in the PAC 12,
which is a must if the Utes are going to have any chance of winning the PAC 12
and playing in the Rose Bowl.Utah's PAC 10 road games since they
busted the BCS:at UCLA 10-31at Oregon St 7-24at Oregon
24-310-3 since 2004
I like BYU right where they are. We know what we stand for and what our values
are, and we don't need to be in some power hungry, money-making conference. As far as I'm concerned, this is all still a rumor until Utah officials make
the announcement. Sounds like they'll go, so best of luck in a much more
difficult conference that is also plagued with sanctions.
I love how in an article praising how good the Ute football team is, Mr Rock
refers to the Ute’s as the girl next door.But, I wonder what
the divisions will be?All the Cali and AZ schools against everyone
else? Or UT, CO, AZ,AZ St, USC, UCLA, against the Northern Pacific schools.?
Or something else? My money is on my 1st guess.
CONGRATS to Utah for being invited to the PAC. They deserve it! Of course they
should go!(That was painful)That said, quoting the Arizona Daily
Star: "The Pac-10 can use a bump in glamour, and especially one at the bank, but
I don't see how Colorado or Utah can help either. I'm aware of the negative
variables and politics about adding BYU, but the Cougars have a history, a brand
and a presence that neither Utah nor Colorado can touch."The
TRUTH:The two new PAC teams would have been BYU and Utah, or BYU and
Colorado, were it not for one thing: religion. BYU has deserved a major
conference invitation for 30 years of outstanding performance, not just two
conference championships. BYU was left out for religion. The last acceptable
prejudice in America is bigotry against the church behind BYU. Ironic in a
country founded on religious freedom, and more evidence of the sad state of
affairs in America.
WOW! All you TDS fans are sooooooo jealous.
You BYU fans are a funny bunch for talking smack when you just got rejected
despite your delusional view of your team. If BYU is so much better why no
invites for you? Could it be that in football in the last 20 years you have
done nothing of real note except being a pretty good team in an okay conference?
Try going undefeated twice in five years and then you can talk (also 9 straight
bowl wins). If the same rules were in play that were in place in 84 Utah would
have been NC in 08 and possibly in 04 (both way better teams than the Y has ever
fielded - come on you defense has never been much to write home about). Good
luck trying to beat a superior TCU (who has always had your number) and BSU to
finally try to crack into the BCS game (might be awhile). Sorry to be so rude
but BYU fans tick me off and especially after reading other sites such as Rivals
where most PAC fans are welcoming to the Utes - who needs you BYU with your
inflated, little to back it up, ego.
By the time the changes take effect, the teams will be completely different.
You can't judge how well a team like Oregon will do in 2011 because their
current quarterback was thrown off the team.
Before U ute fans get too excited, dont forget that you will not be joining the
PAC for another couple of years. USC will be about done with their sanction
(although they will not be back full strength for another couple of years after
that), Oregon will have forgotten about their QB that was kicked off the team,
and every other PAC team will be just as tough to beat week after week as they
are now. Lets be honest, in the MWC, a team doesnt have to play its best week
after week when they are playing Wyo, NM, CSU, etc.
"WOW! All you TDS fans are sooooooo jealous."lol, at all of the
childish Utah fans who still have to resort to juvenile name calling to feel
good about themselves.Having to resort to terms like "TDS" and
"kewgs", just shows how insecure some Utah fans will always be, no matter how
successful the Utes becomeWe may have some jealousy about Utah
joining a BCS conference, we'll never have any jealousy about those types of
bostonblue: From a Ute fan, thanks for the initial good wishes. I do not wish to
pile on (I know this has got to be rough for Y fans), but feel compelled to
address your comment:Although I would agree that religion (more
accurately the questioning of academic freedom) and politics probably had a
subsidiary "fit" role in why BYU wasn't considered, the bottom line is that Utah
has been trending up very rapidly for some time (football success, SLC TV
marketshare, merchandising, and last but not least, academics). The argument you
make is often about BYU's past, and less about the two programs projected
futures. The PAC-10 is expanding for financial reasons... make no mistake. If
they felt BYU was really going to be a highly superior long-term partner in this
financial endeavor they would have been considered--and does anyone doubt the
PAC-10 did their homework? BYU not being considered is a statement of where the
PAC-10 sees things going.
re: Rock of the MarneActually 'Roche', most BYU fans are offering
congrats and a well deserved "Way to go Utah!"To correct some of
your twisted logic, please note the comments of bostonblue at 10h13 pm (just
above yours) who pretty well nails the real reason why Utah was invited instead
of BYU.As for TCU 'owning' BYU, we are 5-3 against them all time,
although only 2-3 since they joined the MWC in 2005.And please do
not ever again bring up Utah's nine-game bowl winning streak-seriously the most
lame statistic of all-time. One quality win (Alabama in the Sugar Bowl) out of
nine-the rest all 4+ loss teams with Sagarin rankings above 40.Mr.
Rock did nail one fact about Utah being in absolutely the right place at the
right time. After a decade of mediocre football intermingled with two absolute
brilliant seasons for the ages. It's Johnny Come Lately personna has served it
well.But, please do not delude yourselves about why you were chosen
over BYU.Good luck Utes! We are proud of you. We wish you all
the best as you represent us and the state.
The PaC12 is weak enough that it would not surprise me at all if Utah did get
into the Rose Bowl in the first 5 years. However, going undefeated and vying for
a national championship is highly unlikely. When was the last time
USC went undefeated even with the best players they could buy? Utah has a strong
tendency to barely beat weak MTN teams. I doubt if they are better than cheating
USC. They probably are better than sanctioned USC on probation with
reduced scholarships. As far as the recruiting is concerned, I did
not see any LDS players jump from USC to Utah when they could move without
sitting out a year. BSU did pick up one player. It will take a
couple of years for this to shake out but I tend to think this is an important
turning point for BYU. Too many people view BYU as a Utah school. It is really
an national/international school much more so than ND. It is time
for BYU to reposition it's brand. Getting divorced from Utah is an important
first step. Think outside or Utah for a change.
La Tortuga | 11:45 pm"Although I would agree that religion (more
accurately the questioning of academic freedom) and politics probably had a
subsidiary "fit" role in why BYU wasn't considered BYU not being considered is a
statement of where the PAC-10 sees things going."Man, I hate going
into this, but here goes.For the PAC 10 to expand, all 10 had to
agree.Let me give you three names, to see if this helps. Diane
Feinstein, Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi. Let me see if you can guess their
position on Prop 8 in California. Now guess how they felt about the LDS Church
and their involvement. I could give more, but I hope you get the picture.Now, what chances would you give to an LDS-University getting the OK
from Cal, or Stanford? I will disagree with you that "religion (more
accurately the questioning of academic freedom) and politics probably had a
subsidiary "fit" role".I'm not making excuses, and believe Utah is
in the right place, but an LDS-University has ZERO chance not getting a veto
from at least Cal or Berkley... Period.BYU has Zero chance of a PAC
To the BYU fans who are genuine in their well-wishes - this Utah fan says "thank
you."A few thoughts:The best MWC teams can play with the
Pac 10 effectively, but the bottom half of the Pac 10 is much better than cellar
of the MWC. Utah will have to "bring it" weekly.I'll miss some of
the matchups that Utah has played for decades, but look forward to watching new
rivalries/history develop.BYU's not getting invited has more to do
with their policy of no Sunday play that it does with religion. If the Pac 10
hates Mormons, like many of you believe, they wouldn't have invited Utah.Academic vision plays a role in these decisions. While BYU is an
excellent university, Utah is built more/thinks more like most of the Pac 10
schools.As a lifelong Mormon and Ute fan who graduated from BYU and
Utah, I hope we use this conference realignment to dissipate the anger from the
BYU-Utah rivalry. Sports are great, but our passion for them shouldn't trump
our commitment to living the Golden Rule.Good luck Cougars, but I
hope the Utes beat you in November!
First, as a UW alumn and season ticket holder, congrats to Utah and Colorado.
Frankly, I think they're a better fit than of the Texas or Oklahoma schools.
And, they want to be part of the conference.(And, for those who
don't know, the conference slogan is "The Conference of Champions". As in the
literal sense of the word. The conference has more national titles in all sports
combined than any other conference. And mind you, it's built this DISTANT lead
with only 10 teams. Heck, the SEC, BIG East and ACC all have 16 schools, thus a
40% advantage on the PAC.HOWEVER, it's rather entertaining reading
the apparent cockiness of Utah fans.What most people posting on here
don't seem to get and/or factor in is this:
It is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH (you get the point) EASIER to get up
for one "big" game, whether it be a regular season game against a PAC 10
opponent in years past or a BCS bowl game.No disrespect intended,
but the Alabama BCS game a few years ago doesn't even count in most people's
book. Alabama played for, and lost everything, in their conference championship
game. They did NOT EVEN WANT TO BE at the bowl game. Yet, Utah? It was the game
of their lives, and they act like they really accomplished something.Here's what most smaller conference teams don't get: it's NOT just the ability
to rise for one game. Instead, it's do you have the depth to play, week-in,
week-out, and take the pounding the PAC 10 puts out. With all
starters healthy, Utah CLEARLY has the talent to be a top 5 or 6 team in the PAC
12. But, how's the depth? There are NO cupcakes in the PAC 10,
except for WSU the past 2 seasons.
The weekly pounding Utah is going to take is like nothing they've seen before.
THIS - this is what kills PAC 10 teams in the season, and in the rankings, along
with playing 9 conference games where most other big conferences play only 8.
How many games does Utah play in it's conference? Automatically,
with the PAC 10 conference scheduling, half the conference is receiving a loss
that no other conference receives.And, for those talking about
non-conference schedules, look at UWs: 3 years ago it included Ohio State and
Fresno State; last year an opener with LSU and then BYU; this year, BYU,
Syracuse and Nebraska.Point being: it's a WHOLE OTHER LEVEL of
competition.Get ready, and good luck.While I'm glad
you're in the conference, I'd bet anyone $1,000 in cash RIGHT NOW that Utah,
with ALL it's talent and head coach, doesn't finish higher than 5th next year.
And, NEXT SEASON will be their BEST. Wait until you recruit against
UW, Oregon, USC, UCLA. Uuuuuhhh, not happening.
They won't be running. They will be bottom feeders for a while. Had they
stayed, they would of been part of a conference that could better the PAC 10,
and other conferences on the East. With USC on verge of sanctions, the PAC 10
will be toast. There are no other teams in same class right now, to even get
Overall the PAC 10 is stronger than the MWC. You can earn a 10-2, 11-1 or in a
really good year a 12-0 record and be perceived as pretty good. But that 10-2
record can easily slip to a 6-6 in a tougher conference. But look past
football. The minor sports will be worse off. It is better to win in a weaker
conference that lose a lot in a stronger conference. Almost none of those
athletes will go on to compete professionally, and their memories and character
will be better for winning than being on a losing team all the time. This is
where Utah is making its big mistake. They are chasing dollars, not athletic
Yeah running in the WRONG direction! I wonder how quickly Ute football fans
will regret the decision when the team finishes 3rd or 4th in their division
every year. I wonder how quick the fans will hate seeing their Utes lose 3-4
home games every year. The two BCS wins were flukes and the Utes may never play
in another BCS game. The facts speak volumes, the all-time record 52-90-3, I
beleive the only team the Utes have a winning record against is Arizona. Heck
they even have a losing record against Colorado. Yep the money will be great and
the prestige but Utah you may end up mediocre or even a PAC-12 bottom dweller in
both football and basketball (no you probably will do okay there, or not). Hey
but enjoy the empty stands after your team loses too many home games and fans
quit coming. Give it about 5 years and that will be your football program!
Ute95 took the words right out of my mouth..." I hope we use this
conference realignment to dissipate the anger from the BYU-Utah rivalry. Sports
are great, but our passion for them shouldn't trump our commitment to living the
Golden Rule."Dissipate the anger is exactly how I feel about
this.I hope the schools will not even play each other for about 5
years and let the hate die down.This is one of the positives I see
coming out of this.The internet has spawned hatred like I have never
seen before.This is a perfect time to step back and take a good look
93 COUGAR,Stop the self righteousness. There are 10X the number of
bad fans from BYU than their are from Utah
Utah won just one championship in the MWC this year (Womens Volleyball, I
think). So if the can't win in the lowly MWC what will they do in the great PAC
10.I'm glad to see them go now I will never have to cheer for them
again (since it was for the conference and not them I was cheering for anyway).
I hope BYU will look at not scheduling the Utes. We already have to see Utah
State every year, if they keep the utes on the schedule then there would be
fewer chances to see real football schools. I.E. Notre Dame, Florida State, Penn
State, etc.Finally everyone is saying that this will hurt BYU in
recruiting. That is an ignorant statement if you understand the recruiting
philosophy of Bronco Mendenhall. He is looking for athletes who want to come to
BYU and those athletes will not change just because Utah is now the Wyoming of
the Pac 10.Anyway, I just wanted to say adios to the Utes and I hope
I never have to see their drunk, ignorant fair weather faces again at LES.
to Esquire,You said:"their memories and character will be
better for winning than being on a losing team all the time. This is where Utah
is making its big mistake. They are chasing dollars, not athletic success."So by your definition of athletic success, character is built by beating
up on weaklings rather than lining up against tough, often superior, competition
to see how you can do and how you can grow. (Even BSU has come to realize
beating up on cream puffs can only take you so far.)I have no
delusions here. We Utah fans will be back to the days when 8-4 is a nice
season. We'll have to endure some losing seasons. But we will hope and aspire
for a few special seasons along they way and when those seasons happen it will
be sweet. Over time, success and character will grow as Utah works to meet the
Wow--I expected SOME sour grapes, jealousy, anger, justifying--but these posts
are just dripppping and ooozing. BYU fans should be swollen up with pride today.
Just as surely as your mythical '84 NC win against 25th ranked Michigan created
the BCS system, the U's thumping of your teams en route to 2 undefeated seasons
and 2 wonderful BCS Bowl wins is part of what made this happen. You kids will be
alright in your gritty little conference over the next few decades--and we will
always be an advocate of a NCAA playoff system. Meanwhile---it's off---to THE
CON--FERENCE (pause---pause---wait for it)---ahem--OF CHAMPIONS. (sigh) I thank
you for your time.
Funny!!! The Utes are the girl next door!Soon the bigger conference
began noticing the girl next door was growing up.Utah might have a
chance for a season or two but will remain a middle tier PAC12 team.The rivalry with BYU will dry up over time, not really a big loss there.TV viewers in Utah will be the big winners in this whole thing, another
I have to agree with the Rock Star here. Has anyone really looked at the PAC
lately? Washington and Washington State are not playing amazing football right
now. Oregon lost to Utah two years ago, Cal lost to Utah last year, and I seem
to remember Oregon State losing to BYU last year as well. Stanford hasn't been a
top team in a long time, and then there is UCLA. They only reason they prefer
Utah to BYU is that Utah didn't humiliate them by beating them 50-0, they only
humiliated them by beating them 46-6. Make no mistake about it, these guys are
still a step above teams like Wyoming, New Mexico and UNLV, but not that big a
step. Utah will do fine.
BYU will be just fine! For all you Ute fans who complain about TV
may find it hard to find your game on the Tube. You may think your going to be
on ESPN playing to a national audience, but the Pac plays with FSN and VS, and
you thought The MT was bad. Ask any fan from the Northwest and they will tell
you so.The Mountain is now years ahead of FSN in quality and in
depth coverage and not to mention HD this year with all football games. Why do
you think every conference wants it's own network now? It was because of the
Mountain Wests vision. The Mountain West will still be there
competing and most likely continue dominance over the Pac and then gain entrance
the hard way to the BSC.
Blucoug...Nice, since your cougs already own the Vegas bowl. Man it
must really hurt to realize your "little brother" can play their way to the
Rose Bowl and you are stuck in vegas. LOLDawgbite...Did
you just say Syracuse was a big non conference game? FYI...they were 4-8 last
year. K Whit has always tried to schedule the best competition possible. Try
Pitt and then Notre Dame on the road this year. The Utes will be just fine.
How sweet it is... start making 10X the money, play in Rose Bowl, have serious
opportunity for national championship, watch TDS get destroyed every year by tcu
and bsu life is good
@Chris BYou know why there are 10x more bad BYU fans than Utah fans. BYU
has 10x more fans total.
In the Mountain West...Utah had a week off every now and then when they played
Wyoming or UNLV but in the PAC12 it will be a fight every week and Utah will
NEVER go undefeated again....sorry no BCS bowl.The Utah/BYU rivalry
game will die....thank goodness. Most BYU students are from outside Utah and
don't care and most Utah fans are anti-Mormon drunks....
Chris B proves my point.Never in my post did I say the Ute fans were
worse than the BYU fans or vice versa.All I said was the hate has
gotten out of control.Just like Ute95 said, we need to dissipate the
hate.Some people's hatred is so bad that they can't even read
Hey Bronko, You better lock up your LDS athletes fast. The Utes are about to
test their "honor code".
Bugoff, Buster, and SportsFan,You three make quite the trio. You've
been on every article concerning the Utes getting into the Pac 10. Why can't
you all give it a rest? SportsFan is reaching as deeply as he can to find
someway to "prove" that the Utes won't succeed; Bugoff is doing the same; and
Buster is always going on some rampage against the Utes, usually making
reference to the Utes academically. Can't you three posters see that you all
come off as jealous, poor losers? It is obvious to everyone except you
three.Again, give it a rest!
BYU doesn't know what it's like to be relevant anymore. Their last relevant
year was 1984. Since then, they've had a total of TWO NCAA basketball wins and
no relevant bowl wins (nobody considers the Vegas Bowl to be relevant).Have fun remaining irrelevant, BYU, while thinking that you're important.
Utah still sells more apparel, still wins more games that count, and now makes
boatloads of more money!
To superute: just remember it is the net not the gross that counts, and from
listening to the press conference sounds like the U sports programs has already
spent the money twice over. Any good luck Utes!
The PAC-10 is considered a worser BCS conference. Even in that conference they
only had 3 teams last year with losing seasons (one is revamped Washington)
while the MWC had 4 teams with losing seasons and with fewer teams in the
conference. Utah couldn't even win the conference. It will be years before
Utah even contends for a championship. Goodbye conference
To all of the "BYU fans" posting; I hope all of you are BYU alum, but I have a
feeling that all of the bitter BYU postings are from Weber St. grads/dropouts at
best. If BYU had two solid BCS wins in the past 7 years then they would have a
solid argument, You can not lose two games a year for the past 26 years and
expect much nationally. Even if the MWC was not on a terrible regional cable
channel, BYU would not get as much national attention as you assume. I am just
glad that Utah is not hand-cuffed in recruiting by a second choice mediocre head
If BYU is all about morals and values, why do it's fans fail to honor them.
Pride always cometh before the fall. Love your neighbor instead of trying to
covet them. PS Not all Mormons are fans of BYU!!!