This is seriously exciting news! It's the beginning of a new era.
Were the consequences not so dire, I find it amusing that these supposedly green
cars are no such thing. The mining and smelting of the the lithium ion
batteries create toxic particulate emmissions which lead to ACID RAIN. Because
the Leaf and other all electric cars are recharged with energy largely generated
by coal, energy which is inefficiently transmited, they also have substantial
carbon footprints.One study widely published ranked the Toyata Prius
as having a larger negative environmental impact (battery production, also a
problem with the leaf) than that of a HUMMER.No so politically
correct after all
OK Drone, so we keep importing oil from terrorists &/or end up with spills on
every coast? Right now the technology is in its infancy. Methods will improve
(just as they have with petroleum based engines). Keep funding the terrorists
with your Hummer.
The Prius versus Hummer life cycle study has been largely discredited as the
greatest amount of environmental harm from cars comes from burning oil and not
from manufacturing.The recharging of electric cars will be mostly at
night where they will tap off-peak power. Coal-fired power plants can't be
cycled down very easily (thus, they produce electricity 24/7 regardless of power
need), so we'll more efficiently use that coal power that is now being sold very
cheaply at night. Electric cars provide the greatest opportunity for
our electric grid to become a substitute for oil. Electricity is about 1/3 the
cost of oil, and its resources are virtually all domestic (coal, gas, wind,
solar, nuclear). As renewables become an increasing part of the electricity
mix, it will make our electric transportation system cleaner and more price
stable (renewable energy doesn't rely on fossil fuel or uranium risks and price
fluxuations).In short, electric vehicles provide the best
opportunity to transition away from oil and keeps our energy dollars at home to
create DOMESTIC jobs. In the long run, electric vehicles will allow wind and
solar to become substitutes for oil.
Man those batteries must be expensive. I know electric motors with their one
moving part can't possibly account for the steep price, compared to gas engine
with dozens of moving parts. Well in 2025 I might be able to afford
a 2011 Leaf.
Hard to believe that the Leaf will cost no more than $40.00 per thousand miles
to charge it. That figue is based on what cost for electricity?
Honda's natural gas civic figuring 32 miles per gallon @ a dollar a gallon would
cost just over $31.00 per 1000 miles for fuel. Does anyone know
what the battery life is expected to be on the Leaf, and how much replacement
batteries are expected to cost?
The price will come down. It's not the motor that's expensive it's the batteries
and motor controller that's complicated and expensive. VCR's and DVD players or
laptops are more complicated really so the price will come down.Even
if 50% of you electricity comes from coal it 5 times more efficient to burn
whatever fuel at the powerstation with 85% efficiency than it is to burn it in
an Internal combustion engine that has a peak efficientcy of 25% and an average
efficiency per mile of much less.
It's a good-looking car. I can't afford one yet, but I hope those who can will
buy so they can save money on fuel, and after they become popular there will be
more models to chose from.
When was the last time there was a waiting list of 14,000 buyers for a car?Gm allready had a nice electric car 15 years ago. They mads it ugly and
people STILL wanted it. But the rolled out the Hummer instead and crushed the
cars they had a waiting list for... Now they say thier Volt is not quite
ready.Nissan better produce this car.