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  • Utah Alum
    April 17, 2010 10:22 p.m.

    Almost losing his starting quarterback was probably not something Coach Whittingham was expecting. Good thing it wasn't something more serious than a minor tweak in his throwing shoulder.

  • Chris B
    April 17, 2010 11:39 p.m.

    This team could be special. Very impressed with what I saw today. I'm not saying a bcs is guaranteed, but it wouldnt surprise me one bit.

    go utes!

  • Ken
    April 18, 2010 12:00 a.m.

    I'm with ya Chris B. 3rd times the charm - this time for the crown!

  • SportsFan
    April 18, 2010 10:17 a.m.

    The Utes will definitely be in the hunt for a national championship this year. With TCU and BYU coming to RES, a MWC championship is a given.

  • sports fan
    April 18, 2010 10:56 a.m.

    SportsFan up top, lets not get to carried away. the only game that matters is the game against pitt. lets win that one first.

  • WhoAmISir
    April 18, 2010 11:06 a.m.

    Utah fans - way too early to talk BCS or even NC. Keep in mind that TCU and Boise State will be highly ranked going into the season. We have to take care of business with 1 of those teams and see if during the year someone doesn't take care of the other.
    Remember 1 game at a time, let others talk about BCS and NC going into the season. 1 game, 1 win at a time.

    Who Am I Sir - A Utah Man Am I

  • Magna Ute Fan
    April 18, 2010 12:32 p.m.

    One game at a time Ute fans. With that said, we are not set up for a NC run this year. TCU or BSU may be. Let us not be like so many of our friends to the south who seem to talk NC and Heisman every year. This looks to be a great year for Utah Football!

  • COACH KILS
    April 18, 2010 2:16 p.m.

    DID ANY OF YOU WATCH THIS GAME... WE HAVE THE TALENT AND ALL THE PIECES, I TRULLY BELIEVE WE'RE GOING AS FAR AS #7 TAKES US....

  • COACH KILS
    April 18, 2010 2:21 p.m.

    ONE PLAY @ A TIME... TWO PLAYS INTO THIS YEAR'S SPRING GAME HALF OF UTES NATION HAD HEARTATTACKS. WE HAVE ALL PIECES AND TALENT, THIS SEASON WILL BE A FUN ONE......
    P.S. WE'RE GONIG AS FAR AS #7 TAKE US!

  • COACH KILS
    April 18, 2010 2:22 p.m.

    WE'RE GOING AS FAR AS #7 TAKES US

  • Chris B
    April 18, 2010 2:47 p.m.

    Hey Coach Kils,

    Still trying to figure out this whole posting comments thing? How far do you think the utes will go this year?

  • BluCoug
    April 18, 2010 6:25 p.m.

    @SportsFan | 10:17 a.m.

    LOL, just because TCU and BYU is coming to RES, is not a given to win the MWC. TCU will dominate the utes again this year. TCU will remember the 2008 game and seek and will avenge that loss.

  • Utes4Ever
    April 18, 2010 10:05 p.m.

    And we will looking to avenge the 2009 loss. RES will be a hostile environment.

  • Utes4Ever
    April 18, 2010 11:06 p.m.

    Has anyone else noticed that the number of BYU posters have dropped off the map now that they have to register under a unique name? Strange what they prospect of accountability will do to one who wants to post trash.

  • williary
    April 19, 2010 7:49 a.m.

    re: BluCoug

    Noticed how you wanted to give BYU a shot at RES originally in your post, but ended up only mentioning TCU.

    Can't blame you, especially with the events of Friday in the bubble.

  • hedgehog
    April 19, 2010 8:19 a.m.

    RE: williary |

    I noticed that as well. Even the most delusional Kewgar has to be laying low after what happened to Unga last week. Let’s see, a freshman QB and RB and TE. The WR position is below average and again looking at freshman’s to save the day. What about the offensive line? Paper thin and praying that the few average OL players come back from off season surgery.

    If Kewgar fans would think rationally, they would pray that Bronko red shirts Heaps for next year. Whoever “wins” the QB position at BYU will have to deal with the physical and emotional abuse of leading a ridiculously unprepared offense into the lions den.

    It’s going to get ugly 6-6 at best.


  • BlueCoug
    April 19, 2010 9:32 a.m.

    re: hedgehog

    BYU will be playing a lot of young, inexperienced players to start the season, with a tough early season schedule -- Washington (and Jake Locker), @Florida State, and @Air Force -- but, the Cougars will be veterans by the time they face the Utes in RES.

    The Cougars have a wealth of talented young players who will rise to the challege of replacing stellar players like Max Hall, Dennis Pitta, and Harvey Unga.

    BYU has a history of reloading, rather than rebuilding.

    3 or more Top 25 finishes in a row

    BYU
    1979-1981
    1983-1985
    1989-1991
    2006-2009

    Utah
    none


  • worf
    April 19, 2010 9:55 a.m.

    Let's see? Forty four wins in four years? HaHaHa! Only a blind ignoramus would be confident of a win against the Cougars. MARK MY WORDS! Utes lose to Pit, TCU, and Cougars.

  • Big_Ben
    April 19, 2010 11:47 a.m.

    worf,

    did you ask your mom for permission to log in? better ask, you know you could get grounded!

    Anyway, this article is about the utes and their red white game. bluecoug and work must have gotten lost looking for their articles about BYU.

    Went to teh game on saturday and was very impressed. Lots of young playmakers and seasoned vets. Our offense should improve substantially this year. The defense also has a lot of playmakers. I anticipate it will take 2-3 games for teh new linebackers and secondary to get into the swing of things, but with a D-line like we have, where we literally go eight deep, and proven playmakers behind them, we should be pretty good this year.

  • Chris B
    April 19, 2010 12:07 p.m.

    TDS - you will be lucky to be at .500 when the season is over. Meanwhile - we'll have an awfully long break from the time we beat you by 30 to the big game in January.

    GO UTES

    BCS 3!

  • utahman1
    April 19, 2010 12:22 p.m.

    I played for Hunter High School with Matt for 3 years and during the state championship year with Tauni, Ron, Shawn, and Matt. To see all of them at the next level is awesome. It shows what an awesome team that 2003 champs were. University of Utah is turning into Hunter High School....just kidding. Its nice to see all of them being successful. Lets take home the MWC championship this year Utes, and possibly a run for the BCS. We can do it.

  • hedgehog
    April 19, 2010 12:39 p.m.

    It’s funny how Kewgar fans are now only talking smack about the Utes but keeping very, very quite about their own teams prognosis. It’s understandable; we all see the “train wreck” of a season coming for YBU. It’s best to divert attention away from what may be the worst BYU team in many, many years.

    As far as Utah? MWC championship and BCS is the expectations. And guess what, 2011 only looks better.

    Sleep well Cougars.

  • williary
    April 19, 2010 12:52 p.m.

    re: BlueCoug

    Utah had a "rebuilding" year last season, and finished 10-3 with a very tough schedule. Losses by 7 @ Pac-10 champ Oregon, and in overtime @ top 15 BYU.

    We'll see if BYU's "rebuilding" year having to replace the same positions Utah did last year will be even close to as successful. My guess after Friday is it will not be. @ Utah, TCU, FSU. Home to Washington. If BYU wins 1 of those games I'll be very surprised.

  • THEeyepatch
    April 19, 2010 3:32 p.m.

    @williary | 12:52 p.m. April 19, 2010

    Yeah, and BYU has a rebuilding season every year, so what is your point, the UTES don't play for the LAS VEGAS BOWL every year. They [UTES] strive for something better, just like BOISE ST., until BYU even playes in a BCS BOWl GAME, hold on to that "magical" '84 season when BYU beat 6-5 Michigan for an *NC. Why do you Cougar fans even try, such a pathetic attempt.

  • y be good when U CAN BE GREAT!
    April 19, 2010 4:39 p.m.

    I love bluezoob's logic, they must be the only ones getting experience this year....
    Keep in mind tds only wins some of the games that they are supposed to against the Utes, please tell me when the last time was that Utah lost to tds when Utah was favored and I believe they will be favored this year!

    Hey Hedge,
    What do you expect when you has 4-5 O-linemen, two 1000 yard rushers, two experienced QBs, a full D-line and a starting safety and corner returning. When the Utes have all that returning and only a few injured and yet the tds has 4 Linemen (if that, can't even play a scrimmage), a couple receivers (yet their main receiver is gone) from the offense and a safety and corner from the defense that isn't hurt there is not much to be happy about.

  • y be good when U CAN BE GREAT!
    April 19, 2010 4:42 p.m.

    I love bluezoob's logic, they must be the only ones getting experience this year....
    Keep in mind tds only wins some of the games that they are supposed to against the Utes, please tell me when the last time was that Utah lost to tds when Utah was favored and I believe they will be favored this year!

    Hey Hedge,
    What do you expect when you has 4-5 O-linemen, two 1000 yard rushers, two experienced QBs, a full D-line and a starting safety and corner returning. When the Utes have all that returning and only a few injured and yet the tds has 4 Linemen (if that, can't even play a scrimmage), a couple receivers (yet their main receiver is gone) from the offense and a safety and corner from the defense that isn't hurt there is not much to be happy about.

  • williary
    April 19, 2010 4:50 p.m.

    re: THEeyepatch

    Not really sure what you're talking about, but you need to re-read my posts.

    Just pointing out the fact that during Utah's supposed "rebuilding" year we still won 10 games. Utah has started to reload, not rebuild.

    What are you talking about?

  • SportsFan
    April 19, 2010 5:51 p.m.

    BYU and Utah All-time
    Football Top 25 Finishes

    BYU 17
    Utah 6

    AP/Coaches

    1964 Utah UR/14
    1977 BYU 20/16
    1979 BYU 13/12
    1980 BYU 12/12
    1981 BYU 13/11
    1983 BYU 7/7
    1984 BYU 1/1 National Champions
    1985 BYU 16/17
    1989 BYU 22/18
    1990 BYU 22/17
    1991 BYU 23/23
    1994 BYU 18/10, Utah 10/8
    1996 BYU 5/5
    2001 BYU 25/24
    2003 Utah 21/21
    2004 Utah 4/5
    2006 BYU 16/15
    2007 BYU 14/15
    2008 BYU 25/21, Utah 2/4
    2009 BYU 12/12, Utah 18/18

    BYU has finished in the Top 25 SEVENTEEN of the past 33 years (52%) -- for all of U historians, that's a third of a century.

    The only decade in Utah history where the Utes finished in the Top 25 more than once was the 2000's, when the Utes finished in the Top 25 FOUR of the 10 years (40%).

    Get back to us Utes when you manage to finish in the Top 25 at least 50% of the time for a single decade.

  • hedgehog
    April 19, 2010 6:36 p.m.

    RE: Sportsfan,

    I always know when a BYU fan is starting to feel insecure - they pull out some long winded presentation about winning the games their suppose to but not mentioning the epic collapse that happens ever year.

    Being that it's a reloading year (TDS never rebuilds) I wonder if BYU can match Utahs 10-3 "rebuilding" year....

    Don't lie, remeber you have an "honor" code

    LOL

  • SportsFan
    April 19, 2010 7:51 p.m.

    re: hedgehog

    " I wonder if BYU can match Utahs 10-3 "rebuilding" year...."

    Been there, done that hedgehog:

    BYU 2006 11-2, undefeated MWC championship, 16/15 final polls

    replaces John Beck, Jonny Harline and Curtis Brown

    with Max Hall, Dennis Pitta and Harvey Unga

    BYU 2007 11-2, undefeated MWC championship, 14/15 final polls

  • football43
    April 19, 2010 8:27 p.m.

    Usually read all the articles relating to BYU and Ute football. The Ute fans piously dog the Cougar fans for talking about BCS games in the spring and summer. I think in this article no less than 5 Ute fans talked about going BCS. Please remember this Ute fan when you are tempted to blow up Cougar fans for talking about BCS before the season starts. Good luck to all the teams in the state.

  • Skierelmo
    April 19, 2010 9:03 p.m.

    to football43:

    I've never made fun of them for saying that.... I've made fun of them for making (bronco approved) t-shirts about it before the season started

  • UtesBy5
    April 20, 2010 2:30 a.m.

    To: SportsFan, BluCoug and BlueCoug (all the same person!)... thanks for the entertainment and meaningless information.

    Here's a little more information:

    Top 10 finishes:

    BYU 3
    Utah 3

    Top 5 finishes:

    BYU 2
    Utah 2

    Top 5 finishes this century:

    BYU 0
    Utah 2

    BCS Bowl invitations:

    BYU 0
    Utah 2

    Bowl winning streak:

    BYU 1
    Utah 9

    Now back to the article about UTAH FOOTBALL....

    Utah will be strong in the trenches on both sides of the ball with tons of depth. Skill positions are coming around with lots of talent at WR and RB. QBs are excellent and the defense is always tough. If the secondary and linebackers keep improving we will have a terrific season!

    I look forward to playing our main rival TCU. We have a score to settle and they will probably be the toughest game on our schedule.

    Thanks Coach Whitt for the fantastic recruiting! The incoming recruits are rated the top non BCS class by rivals (#32).

    GO UTES!!

  • hedgehog
    April 20, 2010 6:17 a.m.

    RE: SportsFan |

    You keep dodging the question by talking about the "good ol' days". The question is, do you honestly believe BYU can match Utah's "rebuilding" year ( 2009) next season??

    Crickets Crickets Crickets

  • hedgehog
    April 20, 2010 7:04 a.m.

    RE:football43 | ( TDS troll)


    It’s just a little bit easier to talk about the BCS when we’ve actually BEEN to multiple BCS games THIS DECADE and won them all. We speak from recent experience. I would assume most Kewgar fans posting on these articles where not even born the last time BYU had anything of national significance to be proud about.

  • Ernest T. Bass
    April 20, 2010 7:44 a.m.

    Too bad for everyone else Heeps is so dang good.

  • SportsFan
    April 20, 2010 9:58 a.m.

    re: UtesBy5

    Just curious. How many of those 9 consecutive bowl winning Utah teams were good enough to finish in the Top 25?

    Having mediocre regular seasons, regularly losing conference games, and then beating mediocre teams in bowls obviously doesn't impress the poll voters that much, does it?

    Recount:

    Top 10 Finishes

    BYU 4
    Utah 3

    BYU #1/#1 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
    Utah #2/#4 Sugar Bowl Champions
    Utah #4/#5 Fiesta Bowl Champions
    BYU #5/#5 Cotton Bowl Champions
    BYU #7/#7 Holiday Bowl Champions
    Utah #10/#8 Freedom Bowl Champions
    BYU #18/#10 Copper Bowl Champions

    National Championships

    BYU 1
    Utah 0

    Top 25 Finishes

    BYU 17
    Utah 6

    Current Streak of Top 25 Finishes

    BYU 4
    Utah 2

    Bowl Games

    BYU 28
    Utah 15

    Ranked Bowl Opponents (final poll)

    BYU 17
    Utah 4

    National Individual Awards

    BYU 15
    Utah 0

    BYU

    1 Heisman
    1 Doak Walker (nation's best running back)
    4 Davey O'Brien (nation's best quarterback)
    2 Outland (nation's best interior lineman)
    7 Sammy Baugh (nation's best passer)

    Utah

    0 national individual awards

  • SportsFan
    April 20, 2010 10:08 a.m.

    re: hedgehog

    lol at your "good ol' days" hedgehog.
    Since when is 2007 considered the "good ol' days"?

    It really doesn't matter what I think will happen this year does it?

    Actual results are the only thing that really counts.

    In what Utah fans would consider BYU's last "rebuilding" year, 2007,

    replacing John Beck, Jonny Harline, and Curtis Brown

    with Max Hall, Dennis Pitta, and Harvey Unga

    the Cougars far exceeded what Utah did in 2009.

    BYU 2007 11-2, undefeated MWC championship, #14/#15, beat Utah

    Utah 2009 10-3, MWC 3rd place, #18/#18, lost to BYU

  • TrueBlue
    April 20, 2010 10:34 a.m.

    BYU 1996 14-1 #5/#5 Cotton Bowl Champions

    BYU's bowl opponent finished, Kansas State, was 9-2 and ranked #14. The Wildcats finished #17 in both polls with a 9-3 record.

    BYU played THREE ranked opponents in 1996:
    at #16/#15 Washington (9-3) 17-29
    Wyoming #22/#22 (10-2) 28-25 (WAC championship)
    Kansas State #17/#17 (9-3) 19-15 (Cotton Bowl)

    and BYU beat Utah at Utah (8-4) 37-17

    It's easily argueable that BYU played FOUR opponents in 1996 who were superior to anybody Utah played in 2004.

    Utah 2004 12-0 #4/#5 Fiesta Bowl Champions

    the only ranked opponent Utah played in 2004 was Pittsburgh

    Pittsburgh #25/UR (8-4) 35-7 (Fiesta Bowl)

    and Utah beat BYU (5-6) at home 52-21

    In many ways, what BYU accomplished in 1996, FAR EXCEEDS what Utah accomplished in 2004.

    BYU did have one loss, on the road to a Top 15 team. BUT the Cougars also had two wins against ranked opponents.

    Had the BCS been in place, with the exact same rules that now exist for qualifying, BYU would have been a lock for a BCS bowl.

  • williary
    April 20, 2010 10:35 a.m.

    Colin Cowherd on the radio this morning:

    "I'm 100% certain that Utah to the Pac-10 is a done deal."

    National radio host on ESPN with deep ties to Pac-10 country.

    Cougars will keep living in the past, while Utah moves on to bigger and better things.

    Just the facts folks.

  • SportsFan
    April 20, 2010 10:49 a.m.

    re: williary

    Be careful what you wish for.

    Utah moving to the PAC 10 with Colorado, TCU moving to the Big 12, with BYU and Boise State now part of the newest AQ BCS conference, the MWC, could easily lead to a scenario with BYU or Boise State playing in a BCS game every year, while Utah, now a little fish in a big pond, would likely spend the next 10 years wondering if they'll ever get to play in the Rose Bowl.

    Utah may be a done deal; but the PAC 10 won't expand to 11 teams. It'll either be Utah and Colorado, with the above scenario, or Utah and BYU.

  • TrueBlue
    April 20, 2010 11:26 a.m.

    College Football Hall of Fame inductees

    BYU
    Gifford Nielsen (QB), 1994
    Marc Wilson (QB), 1996
    Jim McMahon (QB), 1999
    Steve Young (QB), 2001
    LaVell Edwards (Head Coach), 2004
    Gordon Hudson (Tight End), 2009

    Ty Detmer, Chad Lewis, Steve Sarkisian, and others will soon follow

    Utah
    None

  • hedgehog
    April 20, 2010 11:51 a.m.

    RE: Sports fan

    "It really doesn't matter what I think will happen this year does it?"

    Just can’t seem to confront and answer the question can you LOL. Right about now it’s much more comforting to reminisce about what was (regional mediocrity) as opposed to what will be (this season). Just wondering, how will a 6-6 record fit into PowerPoint presentation? Let me guess, it’ll be written off as an anomaly.

    Not to fear. When the cream of the crop ( Utah and TCU) leave for a big six conference next year you can continue your destiny of beating up teams know one cares about.




  • SportsFan
    April 20, 2010 12:26 p.m.

    re: hedgehog

    aka utahcountyute

    BYU has a tough early season schedule, especially for a team that will be breaking in alot of new players, but the Cougars have a good chance of matching Utah's 2009 10-3 record. The Cougars won't be any worse than 9-4 and could equal their 2007 "rebuilding" season of 11-2.

    Utah is no shoo-in to even equal last year's record of 10-3, let alone win a MWC championship or make it to a BCS bowl.

    Given Utah's track record during the last 5 years of losing TWICE as many MWC games as BYU, plus some difficult OOC opponents, Pittsburgh, at New Mexico, at Iowa State, at Air Force, TCU, at Notre Dame and BYU are all possible losses for Utah.

    Utah won't go undefeated with that schedule, so the possibility of finishing ahead of Boise State, TCU, and even BYU is slim.

    As they did in 2007, BYU has the potential to be a legitimate MWC title contender.

    Only a delusional BYU hater would predict a 6-6 season for BYU.

  • CG
    April 20, 2010 1:04 p.m.

    "When the cream of the crop ( Utah and TCU) leave for a big six conference" ... BYU and Boise State will quickly become kingpins in the newest BIG SEVEN conference, the MWC.

  • Utes4Ever
    April 20, 2010 1:19 p.m.

    @ TrueBlue | 10:34 a.m. April 20, 2010

    "In many ways, what BYU accomplished in 1996, FAR EXCEEDS what Utah accomplished in 2004"

    Careful ... you are sounding a lot like an SEC homer or a BCS homer. That is their classic argument --- a "good" loss in more impressive than a win. A 13-1 or 12-2 season is more impressive than an undefeated season. It seems college football is the only sport where this argument is accepted and in many cases, promoted.

    Facts are: Utah's 2004 undefeated season is more impressive than BYU's undefeated season. Utah's undefeated 2004 season is more impressive than any BYU season where they took a loss. And BYU can't match Utah's undefeated 2008 season.

  • hedgehog
    April 20, 2010 1:26 p.m.

    Honestly
    5-7

    Washington Lose: (With the best QB in the nation WU will be favored... so your picking an upset?)

    @Air Force Lose: ( Young BYU defense against a veteran AF offense on the road)

    @Florida State LOSE (FL St. will expose the athletic gap between the two programs — not close)

    Nevada LOSE (I’m guessing at this point a BYU QB change will have happened — BYU in total disarray )
    @Utah State WIN
    San Diego State WIN
    @TCU LOSE (Offense is yet again exposed as pretenders. BYU only scores 2 field goals)
    Wyoming WIN
    UNLV WIN
    Colorado State WIN
    @New Mexico LOSE ( BYU lose in last second)
    @ Utah LOSE ( BYU loses by 24 points — Heaps is taken out of the game in the 2nd quarter

  • Big_Ben
    April 20, 2010 2:05 p.m.

    True Blue, I really hope (and think) that you are a ute pretending to be a BYU fan, because I really dont know if I have ever seen such a pitiful attempt at an argument. Pitiful.

    If we wanted to discuss the history of BYU football, we would come over to your articles and discuss them. This is a ute article. Please escort yourself back to those articles.

  • Big_Ben
    April 20, 2010 2:53 p.m.

    Any predictions for this years UTE team? I see us going 11-2. I hope we can do better though. This team has a lot of promise. I really cant wait for football to start up!

  • williary
    April 20, 2010 3:17 p.m.

    re: SportsFan

    FYI - If Utah leaves the MWC, that kills any chance of getting AQ status. The BCS season of 2008 would go with Utah, as would the 13-0 and 10-3 records of the Utes the previous 2 seasons.

    Considering that even if the MWC were to add Boise St. with all current pieces in place they still would not be in a position to be an AQ, if you think losing TCU and Utah would do the trick you are completely irrational.

    Think of it this way. Utah could finish 7-5 and 5th place in the Pac-10 and play in the Vegas Bowl. And as we've seen, the ceiling for BYU is the Vegas Bowl no matter where they finish in the MWC.

    That's pretty sad.

  • Solomon Levi
    April 20, 2010 3:18 p.m.

    Utah 2004 #5/#4 12-0
    BYU 1996 #5/#5 14-1

    Quite obviously, the poll voters didn't see much difference between a 12-0 record and a 14-1 record.

    I wonder.

    Would Utah fans rank a MAC team that was 12-0 during the regular season, with no wins against Top 25 team,

    ahead of

    a Utah team that went 11-1 during the regular season, with wins against #15 Pittsburgh, #10 TCU, and #20 BYU, but a loss on the road to #12 Notre Dame?

  • williary
    April 20, 2010 3:20 p.m.

    "Only a delusional BYU hater would predict a 6-6 season for BYU."

    Only a delusional BYU fan would actually throw out the possibility of going 11-2 for the upcoming season, like you did SportsFan.

    @Utah, TCU, FSU & Air Force. Washington at home to open the season. If you think BYU is only losing 2 of those games your probably the biggest BYU homer I've ever seen on these boards...aside from Dick "Cougar Club" Harmon.

  • SportsFan
    April 20, 2010 5:37 p.m.

    re: willary

    Utah leaving the MWC won't have any affect on the MWC gaining AQ status. The BcS included a rule several years ago to prevent a conference from adding another team late in the qualifying period of four years.

    Only teams actually in the conference during each of the qualify years counts.

    This prevents the MWC from adding Boise State during the last year of qualifying and receiving credit for Boise State's BcS appearances.

    The same rule, will give the MWC credit for Utah's BcS appearances during the qualifying period, regardless of whether the Utes leave the MWC or not.

    btw, the ceiling for BYU is a National Championship.

    The ceiling for Utah is a distant 2nd in the AP poll and 4th in the Coaches (the OFFICIAL poll of the BcS).

  • Cougar Blue
    April 20, 2010 6:10 p.m.

    Not sure how the Cougars will do yet, but for those in Red to start trumpeting BCS and NC makes me want to bust as gut laughing. Boise State will be about 20 notches higher on the totem pole to start with and Utah ain't gonna catch 'em. So much for their BCS---right from the beginning.

  • hedgehog
    April 20, 2010 6:11 p.m.

    Sportsfan

    Sportsfagn

    "The same rule, will give the MWC credit for Utah's BCS appearances during the qualifying period, regardless of whether the Utes leave the MWC or not."

    So it sounds as if you and all of Kewgs owe the Utes a lot of gratitude and thanks.. that would seem to be the "honorable" thing to do.



  • Utah Alum
    April 20, 2010 6:44 p.m.

    re: hedgehog

    Actually, hedgehog, it's the other way around.

    The Utes owe the Cougars a debt of gratitude.

    Except for the 1996 and 2001 BYU teams putting pressure on the Bowl Alliance, and later, the BCS, to be more inclusive, a non-AQ team like Utah never would have had an opportunity to play in a BCS game.

  • Utes4Ever
    April 21, 2010 7:03 a.m.

    @ Utah Alum | 6:44 p.m. April 20, 2010

    Marshall and Tulane in the late 90s are the teams we should be grateful for - not BYU. These were the teams that put the real pressure on the BcS to change it's policy and allow non-AQ teams a shot of playing in BcS bowl games.

  • Utes4Ever
    April 21, 2010 7:14 a.m.

    @ Utah Alum | 6:44 p.m. April 20, 2010

    Marshall and Tulane in the late 90s are the teams we should be grateful for - not BYU. These were the teams that put the real pressure on the BcS to change it's policy and allow non-AQ teams a shot of playing in BcS bowl games.

  • GambitUte
    April 21, 2010 12:26 p.m.

    Okay lets clear up a few things:

    1. Utah does not owe BYU anything
    Despite the snub of BYU's 01' squad, the 04' Utes were hyped up even before the start of the season. (thanks to our 03' campaign). Having said that though, I won't deny we had a lot of chips fall into place to get to the fiesta bowl. In those days, the system only took a non-aq that ranked in the top 6 in the BCS standings (rather than the top 12 ranking required today). If anything BYU should be thanking US for the good we've done for the non-big 6 conferences. BYU talks about BCS but Utah actually makes it there.

    2. @ Sports fan regarding BYU and BSU

    I think you need to follow your own advice when you said to be careful what you wish for. If indeed Utah gets into the Pac-10 and BSU gets invited to the MWC,what makes you think you guys are on par with them?. All you BYU fans claim BSU is leaps and bounds ahead of Utah but what about you guys?

  • GambitUte
    April 21, 2010 12:36 p.m.

    Getting back to the topic at hand: Utah Football
    I think the Utes will do just fine SportsFan. Even though we have many holes to fill on defense I see no reason at all that we wont repeat the success of 09'. We have a QB who's one year wiser, we have an experienced O-line that will help us tremendously and we have experience at RB. That's three things you boy's WONT have this year. I believe BYU will struggle not because their breaking in a new QB or because their thin at RB. It will be because they have a weak o-line. Look at what happened to Oklahoma last year. If you don't have a line worthy of the name, even a Heisman winner like Bradford will take hits and struggle.