no surprise that the jazz lost to the lakers. THE JAZZ CAN'T PLAY FRIGGIN'
DEFENSE!!! players keep saying defense is the key. but they always start the
game like zombies on the defensive end. sure the jazz can (probably will) beat
the suns, the mavs and even the thunder come playoff time. but forget it if they
face the lakers and/or nuggets. they'd get creamed. period. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
(OR WON'T)PLAY DEFENSE!!!
As someone who has never believed much that Sloan has been responsible for all
the Jayy success, watch Durant light the Jazz up for over 40...watch Sloan not
doubleteam until it is too late, watchSloan not stop the momentum when the
team starts falling apart, watch Sloan not play their one solid big man
Fesenko.When a team makes a run Jackson and Popovich take a time out to
motivate their players or to point them in the right direction or to stop the
momentum...The answer has been a total of 13 World Championships by being a real
coach....No, Sloan when the players are taking the wrong approach and 'wearing a
tuxedo' thinks that during such a let down they will all of a sudden realize
they need to play better....He is in my opinion second rate at best, and KOC
without a shotblocker, someone they could even pick up from the D League is not
a msster stratedgist either.
Watch out for struggling teams like Golden State and Houston.
theory--why Sloan did call timeouts? He usually doesn't know what else to tell
his players besides playing hard.
It's not too late to give fesenko some minutes in the rotation. The la game
showed why it might be a good idea. As a memo, the three guard attack was
working with boozer playing center, but I wonder what sloan is doing, when he
subed in okur, as you'd expect, we lost the advantage we had with that lineup,
which was quickness. And, unless we get some more length and talent in the
front line, we'd have to physically be tougher than them to have a chance at
beating them, which would mean flying bodies, which wasn't the case at la, i
didn't see many lakers flying, but if we're going to have to put up a fight like
that, better to save it for when it really counts.Even though matthews did
a respectful job on kobe, there should be a way to involve korver more, I'm
still not convinced this is the best move sloan could make for the team, that
seems to be the only other real issue, korver should he start? while most agree
fesenko deserves minutes, it looks that way and seems obviousmailman hof
Worry about the other teams in the fight for second place.Denver needs to
lose at least one more game.
The Jazz will be in the playoffs obviously, but that's all they will do. Can't
beat quality teams when it counts...
I hope San Antonio gets the Lakers in the second round, and knocks them out.
They won them at LA a day or two ago and seem to match up well, but if we have
to face the Lakers I don't think there's a very good chance we'll win.
why do you Jazz fans think you're apart of the organization to say the word, we?
Oh really! I don't think we can "won" them either.
Accept or reject the Jazz for what they are. A 4 to 8th seed in their
conference, nothing more, nothing less. This makeup we have with this team
"Will" not win a championship, they will entertain and be more respectable than
approximately 8 to 10 other teams in their conference though. We haven't got
enough athletism or length to topple the top teams and quite frankly never have.
Classify this sport for what it really is, that being a very expensive
entertainment sport that interests some of the people in our state! Where else
can you see a high school graduate make 30 million plus a year like the revered
"Kobe". Ridiculous but keep on paying fans.
And the Jazz couldn't get it done. Not a very good indicator of the preparation
and playing level going into the playoffs. The Jazz are still a second tier
team, in spite of their record. I'm sorry to say. They better pull a lot of
things together before the playoff start, or it will be a quick exit.
coaching and front office. They think in terms of creating and maintaining a
team that is a mediocre playoff team. They do not think in terms of
beating LA, DEN, OKC and the other teams that can beat LA (POR and HOU when
healthy). It is obvious that Millsap is not the PF of the future for
beating LA (and clones). If Boozer stays then Okur is not the right
C to beat them either. There has to be a change in the front line
either at C or PF or both. If Boozer stays then Korver will not be resigned.
That means the Jazz have to find a SF who can shoot and defend. They need to do
that anyway. Mathews may or may not be okay at SG next year. Fez and Koufos will not be much better as they never get the playing
time they have to have to improve. For the Jazz to contend they have
to have a tall athletic PF, a Fez type C to back up if Okur can't hit, an SF who
can shoot and defend, ditto for SG and a better back up PG. Many
changes are needed.
Well the game with OKC and with PH are going to dicide the Jazz seat. I think
the Jazz can win these games. heres how I have the seats. 1.Lakers 60-22 2.Utah
55-27 3.Dallas 54-28 4.Phoenix 54-28 5.Denver 52-30 6.OKC 51-31 7.Portland 51-31
8.SA 50-32. With help from these games LA vs Den (4-8), Port vs Dallas (4-9),
Phoenix vs Denver (4-13). Denver drops 2 games we need 2 games because of the
tiebraker. Dallas 1 game,Jazz better record. Phoenix we beat them better record
and tiebreaker, of course we have to win all our games
We had not lost those stupid games to Minnesota, especially the one at home; and
several other unexplicable losses to lottery teams, we would be solidly in
Think about this for a minute. The Jazz struggle against the triangle offense.
They are lucky to beat MN and can only beat LA on a fluke. The
offense of Kobe, Gasol and Odom (or Kobe, Bynum, Gasol/Odom) can easily over
power the defense of DWill/Mathews, Okur, Boozer/Millap. The losses
to LA and teams similar to LA are built into the Jazz. The Jazz simply do not
have the defensive talent to beat such teams.The problem is in the
coaching and front office. They insist on players at key positions who are not
the best fit for the Sloan system. Name one player besides DWill who
is ideal for the position they play in the Sloan system! The system has to carry
the players not the other way around. That only addressed the
offense. Name one player who is a great defender? Mathews, a rookie is maybe the
best on ball defender. AK is a good help defender. Neither are great and the
rest of the team are worse. The current roster is not designed to
maximize the Sloan offense and it is a poor to mediocre defensive team.They can beat weak teams.
face the fact LA has are number.Jackson has the Jazz right where he wants them.
can not for the life of me see why sloan wont play Fesenko.
killed the Jazz at IND. Hibbert was projected to be drafted by the Jazz. Koufos
is actually a better player than Hibbert but Hibbert got developed and Koufos
did not. Hibbert was nicknamed the "turtle" because he was so slow.
Amazing what a little development can do. Also amazing how bad the Jazz interior
defense was on a slow player. If the current Jazz bigs can't defend
Hibbert then how can they defend Gasol or several other bigs?
Not going to happen with Sloan as head coach, but the 6th seed may be a lot
better than the 4 or 5 spot.
The problem with the Jazz is they don't read the comment boards to get all the
brilliant basketball coaching and management tips. It must be frustrating that
no one on the professional level is calling to offer millions for your obvious
insight into the game, let alone on the college, high school, or junior high
school levels. There's no question that if the Jazz fired all coaches and
replaced them with Josemg, Sokol, Jazz Cop, and The Problem is Still, the Jazz
would unquestionably go undefeated and have an unchallenged dynasty for the
foreseeable future.You can't keep that kind of basketball genius
down for long. I'm sure the call will come.
At some point this year, you'd think our coach that has a team thats fighting
for a #2 seed, might get a little respect from the fans. When the season was
starting, our team looked like a 4/5 seed on paper, we're either right there or
even better. I'm ok with that. I even think that aside from the Lakers, who
present too many matchup problems, we could beat any other team in a series if
we play right.
Nice post at 10:04, I really like the last line. I'm still laughing.
It does not take genius to see the obvious. And there has been years of obvious.
We are only drawing the same conclusions that others (who do get
paid tons of money) have drawn about the Jazz at various points in time over the
last 3 years. Keep drinking the kool aid. You will get the same old
results. Keep bashing anyone who points out the obvious and the Jazz will remain
what they are. The Jazz are not mismanaged in the sense that they
make money and make the playoffs. However, if you want a ring you have to match
key players with key positions. Kobe is ideal for the triangle.
Gasol and Odom are also. Bynum is a close fit. Artest and Fish are adequate.
Everyone but Fish are very good to great defenders. If you are going
to insist on the Sloan system then put people into key positions that fit on
both offense and defense. Stop building in mismatches that can be
exploited. To win the Jazz either have to outscore opponents or
defend well enough or both. Right now they can do that against the best teams in
the West. Get the right players.
No team is numerically out of 2nd or 3rd place running yet.I don't
remember it ever being like this.No matter how the seeds fall out,
there won't be any patsies in ANY seed.The fight for home court is
gonna be fun!So, here it goes my predictions:1. Lakers
at 60-222. Jazz at 55-27 (go from 4th to 2nd if they beat Thunder)3.
Mavs at 53-29 (div champs tiebreaker over Nuggets)4. Nuggets at 53-295. Suns at 52-30 (tiebreaker over Thunder [projecting Suns to beat Thunder
when they meet])6. Thunder at 52-307. Blazers at 51-31 (tiebreaker
over Spurs)8. Spurs at 51-31 (they COULD upset the Lakers!)It's VERY important for the Jazz to beat the Thunder Tuesday night. Otherwise,
they could easily end up 4th or 5th (or worse).
Embrace the roll in the Staples Center! The entertainers want to be entertained
with their star act:the Lakers. Any opponent is a foil for the skills and
talents of the Lakers. We should applaud that we are part of the act, be
gracious to our hosts, in awe of our audience, and play with the Lakers as in a
To @change management - the Jazz get more out of their players than probably
anyone else in basketball, and that's a result of the coaching. Have you heard
lately of Howard Eisley, Shandon Anderson, or Gordon Giricek? Did you hear of
Bryan Russell or Greg Ostertag after they left? We were going to the playoffs
every year with them playing key roles. How many playoff teams have an
UNDRAFTED rookie as a team member, let alone as a major contributing starter?
When have we ever had a Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Wilt
Chamberlain, or Michael Jordan?Bad coaches don't have successful
teams, no matter the talent. Good coaches get better than expected results from
their circumstances, even if they can't rise to the top. Let's face it - the
Lakers are probably just a better team than the Jazz when you consider the
star-level talent of the players and coaches, and we could play even or win
against any other team in the NBA - and YOU'RE COMPLAINING!!!I'll
stick with Sloan, but you just keep waiting for that call!
Change Management=sloanaholic. Didn't we have the rights to Magic at one point?
Dominic? You have to go to the lottery to get that type of talent in Utah. We
got D-Will and a couple others would have been nice. Portland and OKC, not the
biggest markets in the NBA, have more talent and number 1 or 2 picks due to the
way they chose to build their team. At some point, Sloan's success has hindered
Utah's ability to get lottery talent. Good enough to win games, not good enough
to win championships=good but not great. I'm not saying it's all Jerry's fault!
But let's not kill the fans who want to win a championship. Sometimes you may
have to take a step back to move forward. The only way that happens next year is
if the Jazz move into the top 3. We will never find the next MJ,Kobe,Lebron
picking outside of the lottery! FA forget it! To me the key with LA
and the Jazz is Odum, somehow the Jazz have to come up with a matchup so he
doesn't hurt us so much!!
The nuggets did all they could to replicate the lakers, still got a coach that's
out with cancer and they could possibly lose in the first round w/o him. they
also have an injured KMart, which doesn't help their depth.Everyone
that's on here, the experts, will say that we can't win with these guys.Well we beat the spurs, portland, and dallas this year and own those
series. Spurs beat LA yesterday at LA, so if they matchup with the
lakers 1st or 2nd round we could be given a gift.Dallas made all
these changes but still lose to a knicks team at home which we beat a week
later. They have as much Jekyl and Hyde in them as we do.If the jazz
get the right matchup, they could be ok. everyone is crying cuz we lost to the
lakers, best team in the west, big deal, so have a lot of teams this season, but
we don't know what's going to happen in the playoffs, it seems to be anybody's
year in the west with the lakers looking mortal on the road and vs veteran
I agree WE need to stop Odem somehow and we need to mix up our offense a little
just for LA. They seem to disrupt us more than anyone. I think Jackson has
Jerry's system figured out
Utah always struggle against LA better. I don't quite know whyLA
against Utah - They shot 43% and shot 7 for 20 from 3 point line and had 40
points in the paint. LA against SA - They shot 40% and shot 5 for 21 from
3 point line and had 40 points in the paintThey played slightly
better offensively against Utah but they haven't played well offensively for a
while. LA beat Utah by 14 then lost to SA by 19. And don't give me
that length garbage. The Jazz scored 54 points in the paint (6 points more than
San Antonio). Over the last 7 games the Jazz have been on 3 pointer
shooting hot streak. Right after a 4 game slump (including a 0 for 9 outing)Home against Boston - 7 for 21 - 33%At Toronto - 8 for 20 - 40%At Indiana - 10 for 18 - 55%At Washington - 5 for 12 - 41%Home
against NY - 9 for 16 - 56%Home against GS - 8 for 19 42%At LA - 4
for 15 - 26%This is mental. Not Coaching, Not strategy, not LA
defense. The Jazz beat OKC and gets the 2nd seed
jazz get the 2 seed then we'll all be happy and figure that they're getting to
the conference finals. if they get the 3 seed then we'll all be content but
figure they could've done better. they get the 4 seed or lower then we'll figure
there's no reaosn to watch them at all for the playoffs
Truthfully - I have loved watching this year and I'm dang proud of our Jazz
guys! I think they have really upped thier game and get real sick of everyone
coming out of the woodwork everytime they have a bad night. Maybe I need to
hire you all to work for me since you obviously never will call in sick, never
have a bad day, give 110% everyday, even if you are working off of 3 hours of
sleep, and still know the exact way every play should be made so no mistakes
will ever happen! Wow - I'd be doing great!!As for the finals of
this, when it all comes down to it - Lakers will not win this year. Cav's are
going to destroy them (if the Lakers make it that far). Kobe does not compare at
all to LeBron. And for that matter, based on the voting I've seen out there,
most people would rather see Garnett than him too. I personally would take
Howard too. And with all three of these guys, they are individuals who have my
respect. Something Kobe will never have!!Go Jazz! Gotta Love it
Who cares what seed they get? There is a reason you NEVER hear analysts,
players, coaches talk about the Jazz as a team to beat in the playoffs. Sloan
talks about defense but always plays offensive players. Boozer and Miles are
two of the worst defensive starters in the NBA yet they dominate the minutes
while Millsap wastes away on the bench. This works in the regular season not in
Ummm - Millsap is on the bench because 8 out of 10 times, he's in foul trouble!!
Never seen worse refereeing than what happened in the first half in LA. The
refs have a mandate to give all close calls to LA and to never call fouls when
Jazz players are hacked. I guess the only reason is that the Lakers might sell
more shirts and hats if they win again. I don't agree with that. Look what
Boise State has done for college football. Lets have some fair competition.
I agree the Jazz have a mental issue with LA just like they did with San
Antonio. However, Utah has two holes (matchup issues) when it comes to
LA.....the two guard and the length of the Laker's bigs. SA has Manu and Duncan
to counter act what LA does....Utah not so much! If Parker comes back, watchout
for SA in any series....I hope all of the Jazz fans aren't penciling Utah into
the 2 seed just yet and if they get there, it doesn't mean they will reach the
WCF. With all these 50 win teams in the west would it really be an upset if
anyone outside of LA lost?? The regular season doesn't mean that much because
of travel, number of games played in any given week, back to back. Matchups are
more important when it comes to playoffs...where are your advantages and how can
you exploit the other team.
Fesenko is not the Jazz's savior--he's not going to be the difference between a
"W" and an "L".Over the summer, we need to shed Fes and Kosta and
upgrade with an athletic, tall defender who can jump and move his feet, unlike
our trio of white, unathletic centers. If we draft Cole Adrich, I'm officially
giving up on this team.
No Fess may not be the savior, but one thing is certain in case you and alot of
others that comment on here regularly don't realize, this league is all about
nightly match-ups. Therefore Fess and Koufus do remain valuable to some sort.
Korver doesn't fit some nights, neither does C.J. Mathews, Booxer, Memo and
Milsap. Gosh thats funny that just about takes in the whole team.
I am not as certain about Koustos, it comes back to the fact the Jazz could pick
up a bigger athletic low post threat, and or defender/shot blocker and could
have kept Fes as a back up and let him continue to improve. Again We could have
likely at the deadline acquired such a player. It would have meant from a pool
of Korver, Miles, and Okur one or 2 of those would have to had been accepted in
a deal Okur probably could have brough the value. You are not going to win the
title wit a 7 footer taking 25 footers. Yes he is good offensively and has
improved defensively, when he wants to be improved. Kirilenko is
not reliable and that salary is like a dog leash around this franchise. It
seems he is a 50 game player per season. I do not care how good he is wen he
plays and helps us. In this economy it makes no sense to have a part-time
player making this money for a injury prone player.
If the front office were serious they could buy a top 10 pick with cash every
year and then get the talent that they need. That is a lot better
than overpaying good but not great talent, who do not fit the system all that
The posts that ignore how the Spurs beat the lakers, gee how Tall is Richard
Jeferson over Boozie?everyone talks about Ginobli how a mismatch
against LA?What driving to the hole;,........Gee what we cannot do
that?What helped the Spurs was Mcdeyess defense and length and
Duncan ability in the low post to neutralize if not outplay Gasol. Duncan
demands a double team so he just finds the cutters for easy baskets. Popovich
men were always moving without the ball. Duncan moves around the basket a
powerful guy who can finish, Odom did nothing.. teams will be scouting what the
Spurs did if smart.Sloan could have or would not do anything but say
"we are not tough enough, we need to compete"same impeded speech
I do not have great expectations of this years team. I want the Jazz
to make the changes this summer they have to make to beat LA, DEN, OKC, POR next
year. The interior D has to improve and the ability to score against
the above teams also has to improve both on the inside and the wings. I want to see a team that is designed to beat LA. If that happens then the
Jazz should be able to handle the rest of the West. The Jazz are so
afraid of change. DAL at least tries hard to win. So does DEN. They make
mistakes but both of them have done as well as the Jazz in recent years. The current players do not optimize Sloan's offense and they are average
at best on defense. There is a lot of room for improvement. Start
with a top pick this year and if necessary buy another top pick. Trade up in the
draft to get what is needed. The fans will support and wait a year
or 2 if the right players are drafted.Draft the inside players
needed. Trade for wings. Optimize the system. Sloan is not retiring.
Who cares what Bolerjack says? Why you giving him credibility as if he knows
something? He's the reason I turned the volume down on TV. Next thing you know
you'll promote David Locke.
replaced AK, Brewer and Korver with CJ, Price and Mathews. That coupled with an
off night from Okur is enough to lose to LA in LA. Millsap also had a bad night
and got burned by Odom. LA is not as good as last year and can be
beat by several of the teams in the West. However, the Jazz are exploited by LA,
DEN and OKC. We really do not know how they will fare against the revamped DAL.
PHO is also a problem for them.The Jazz have tried to fix one
weakeness. They are shooting sporadically better on the wings. They are still
very weak on interior D. In the long run one or more of Boozer,
Millsap and Okur has to go to get better interior D against tall athletic front
lines. This weakness kills the Jazz. The Jazz inside offense
struggles on nights when the wings do not shoot well. The Jazz also struggle
when they do not get to the line often. The offense is not versatile
enought (yet) and the defense is a little better but not good enough.
Todd, everyone knows the spurs have length and a good team, the only reason they
are not better is injuries and they are ancient. Again, Odom this
month has done jack except against us, funny how he exploits are lack of an
athletic big man, paul isn't quick enough or tall enough so we would need AK on
him, but he's MIA which kills me for that monsterous contract for him to be out
with a calf strain.Booz, who has been a sissy in past years with
injuries had a calf strain and was out for a week, AK is making this look like a
torn Hammy like Roy had earlier. Get on the court AK, we need your length.The real issue was that they were too scared in the first quarter and
the lakers could taste it, it was so abundant. They got close, but all they
needed to do was stay with the lakers in the first and it could have been
interesting, just like the spurs did.Its not coaching, PLAYERS got
to play, booz stop fading and go straight up and have some confidence,same with
On the Draft: If we don't trade up, which it might not be worth it if we can't
crack the top 3 or 4, but if we could trade up and get an athletic wing like wes
johnson or heaven forbid evan turner, get rid of AK's contract and get a decent
back up big man that'd be a scenario.Other: stay with our pick and
draft greg monroe, 6'11 with booz's offensive ability, better passer, and can
match up against pau and odom, may not be as fast, but wont be intimidated by
the length.We need to stop drafting these players with upside, we
need someone who can contribute now, I like the second scenario because we could
try and get something for AK later. Booz wants the money we cant give him or
would want to give him. we dont need another AK contract for someone with the
same injury status.TODD: what say you on these matters???
The Jazz do have someone that can guard Odom, its AK 47. Sloan, stop having him
guard Kobe (leave that to Mathews). Odom likes to hang out on the perimeter so
AK can still help at the hoop. AK has blocked Odom's shots plenty of times. If
Sloan has AK guard Odom, if Bynum doesnt come back and if Mathews/Miles do a
decent job on Kobe, then the Jazz have a slim chance...
Agree to a point with NGB. But everyone in the draft has "upside." You're not
going to draft a guy to come in and give you an all-star performance his first
year. Deron took time, Roy and Durant have taken a couple of years to
develop.Utah is in kind of a catch-22. No one they draft is going to
have the impact Boozer would. But Carlos is clearly no match for the Lakers. And
we won't know until a few months AFTER the draft whether re-signing Boozer is
even possible. It looks like the Jazz will probably draft 9th.
Monroe may already be gone. Aminu and Johnson will probably be gone. It's likely
the best players left on the board will be Xavier Henry (SG), Motiejunas (Kosta
clone), Patterson (undersized PF) and Whiteside (very raw center).I'm sure KOC will try to use the Memphis pick to move up a few notches. If he
can't, I say draft Whiteside. The kid is already a great shot-blocker. Then
we're pretty much forced to re-sign Carlos and try to trade AK's expiring
conract for a better SF.
comes at a very high price. 1. He is not the right PF to beat
LA.2. He will get a max contract for 5 years. 3. He is injury
prone.4. He is old and will be a bad contract in years 4 and 5. 5.
Korver will have to go to pay for Boozer and Korver will have to be replaced by
someone good.6. AK's contract may be expiring but the Jazz got little out
of Brewer and MEM wanted Brewer. I still think that instead of
paying max contracts to players who are good but not ideal, pay cash to move up
in the draft. It is a lot cheaper in the long run to get exactly what you want.
There are lottery teams who will take cash to move down a little in the draft.
For the Jazz to compete they have to have the right PF (no
compromise). The Sloan system will not run without it. Fez/Koufos may eventually
fix the C position well enough. There are usually a lot of talented wings it is
just a matter of price. The Jazz are using D-league to build a
Jody you are better then the Bollerjack call.
With that list players on the jazz rosterit was no wonder the JAzz
never won a championship. you got mediocre to bad players, who have MILD success in a system that has NEVER won championship,
ever, not even with 2 of the supposedly greatest ever IN KEY
POSITIONS!IT's no wonder. not the right
players, not the right coach,not the right system= no championship,blame managment for running a
successful business?No.but there is certainly
plenty of blame to go around for NOT winning championships.
NGB: I liked your post, especially "Its not coaching, PLAYERS got to play". Far
too often Sloan is getting the blame, he gets nailed for saying our players need
to play with more toughness, when that is about the most appropriate comment you
could make. Whether it's moving w/ your feet on D, driving to the basket and
going up hard, or hammering a guy instead of giving up an uncontested layup, we
should be more than capable of doing all 3. On the draft: My target
would be Favors of GT. Johnson or Turner obviously would be nice but I love the
freakish athletic ability of Favors. If we stand pat, I think all 3 would be off
the board and Monroe would be nice at 8 or 9. I just worry that he wouldn't fall
to us and we'd be stuck w/ Aldrich. Whiteside is definitly a risk, he's got
amazing upside, but I wouldn't really like to see a project taken in the top 10.
I am not as versed watching the college game as Chico, JBra and others. I know
this much AMINU he is that guy at Wake Forest, he played here at the Anaheim
Convention Center in Thanksgiving tournament, he is a tremendous, athletic
Re:Todd, ok if you aren't as versed in the college realm, then would you rather
dump booz, keep the wings we have and get a taller or just another PF or try and
keep booz, drop Korver and get another wing player?
Matthews is developing well. I am happy, he could a pretty good pro. When
Korver is healthy, the way he is shooting this season, he has value. MY biggest
issue is I would like a better Center that can clog the paint. I will trade
less points for better defense over Okur. Okur to me could be a great 6th man.
If Okur is in, we need better defense help than him and Boozer together.The things is the power forwards may be available, are the ones we keep
hearing about. Chris Bosh I would and could be happy as a slightly taller
player than Boozer. There are so many issues. If Boozer is not
resigned, it will be expected and demanded from his camp that Paul replaces him.
He just does not have the skill set or height to operate as a #4.This would mean you now have a physical, dominating type Center....Kaman is
not overly physical, Haywood is in DallasMaybe the Nets would take
Kirilenko and a trade for young Robin Lopez, have them throw in Josh Boone for
depth frontcourt size. see if they take Korver