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  • josemb
    April 5, 2010 2:02 a.m.

    no surprise that the jazz lost to the lakers. THE JAZZ CAN'T PLAY FRIGGIN' DEFENSE!!! players keep saying defense is the key. but they always start the game like zombies on the defensive end. sure the jazz can (probably will) beat the suns, the mavs and even the thunder come playoff time. but forget it if they face the lakers and/or nuggets. they'd get creamed. period. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T (OR WON'T)PLAY DEFENSE!!!

  • Sokol
    April 5, 2010 2:28 a.m.

    As someone who has never believed much that Sloan has been responsible for all the Jayy success, watch Durant light the Jazz up for over 40...watch Sloan not doubleteam until it is too late, watch
    Sloan not stop the momentum when the team starts falling apart, watch Sloan not play their one solid big man Fesenko.
    When a team makes a run Jackson and Popovich take a time out to motivate their players or to point them in the right direction or to stop the momentum...The answer has been a total of 13 World Championships by being a real coach....No, Sloan when the players are taking the wrong approach and 'wearing a tuxedo' thinks that during such a let down they will all of a sudden realize they need to play better....He is in my opinion second rate at best, and KOC without a shotblocker, someone they could even pick up from the D League is not a msster stratedgist either.

  • No more stupid loss
    April 5, 2010 6:54 a.m.


    Watch out for struggling teams like Golden State and Houston.

  • Anonymous
    April 5, 2010 7:34 a.m.

    theory--why Sloan did call timeouts? He usually doesn't know what else to tell his players besides playing hard.

  • Jazz Cop
    April 5, 2010 7:42 a.m.

    It's not too late to give fesenko some minutes in the rotation. The la game showed why it might be a good idea. As a memo, the three guard attack was working with boozer playing center, but I wonder what sloan is doing, when he subed in okur, as you'd expect, we lost the advantage we had with that lineup, which was quickness. And, unless we get some more length and talent in the front line, we'd have to physically be tougher than them to have a chance at beating them, which would mean flying bodies, which wasn't the case at la, i didn't see many lakers flying, but if we're going to have to put up a fight like that, better to save it for when it really counts.
    Even though matthews did a respectful job on kobe, there should be a way to involve korver more, I'm still not convinced this is the best move sloan could make for the team, that seems to be the only other real issue, korver should he start? while most agree fesenko deserves minutes, it looks that way and seems obvious
    mailman hof bestever.

  • Hugh. G. Hater
    April 5, 2010 8:06 a.m.

    Worry about the other teams in the fight for second place.
    Denver needs to lose at least one more game.

  • pablohoney
    April 5, 2010 8:08 a.m.

    The Jazz will be in the playoffs obviously, but that's all they will do. Can't beat quality teams when it counts...

  • Anonymous
    April 5, 2010 8:11 a.m.

    I hope San Antonio gets the Lakers in the second round, and knocks them out. They won them at LA a day or two ago and seem to match up well, but if we have to face the Lakers I don't think there's a very good chance we'll win.

  • We
    April 5, 2010 8:38 a.m.

    why do you Jazz fans think you're apart of the organization to say the word, we?

  • @ Anonymous 8:11
    April 5, 2010 8:39 a.m.

    Oh really! I don't think we can "won" them either.

  • The Reality Is
    April 5, 2010 8:52 a.m.

    Accept or reject the Jazz for what they are. A 4 to 8th seed in their conference, nothing more, nothing less. This makeup we have with this team "Will" not win a championship, they will entertain and be more respectable than approximately 8 to 10 other teams in their conference though. We haven't got enough athletism or length to topple the top teams and quite frankly never have. Classify this sport for what it really is, that being a very expensive entertainment sport that interests some of the people in our state! Where else can you see a high school graduate make 30 million plus a year like the revered "Kobe". Ridiculous but keep on paying fans.

  • LA game was "Buckle Up" time
    April 5, 2010 9:03 a.m.

    And the Jazz couldn't get it done. Not a very good indicator of the preparation and playing level going into the playoffs. The Jazz are still a second tier team, in spite of their record. I'm sorry to say. They better pull a lot of things together before the playoff start, or it will be a quick exit.

  • The problem is still the
    April 5, 2010 9:31 a.m.

    coaching and front office. They think in terms of creating and maintaining a team that is a mediocre playoff team.

    They do not think in terms of beating LA, DEN, OKC and the other teams that can beat LA (POR and HOU when healthy).

    It is obvious that Millsap is not the PF of the future for beating LA (and clones).

    If Boozer stays then Okur is not the right C to beat them either.

    There has to be a change in the front line either at C or PF or both. If Boozer stays then Korver will not be resigned. That means the Jazz have to find a SF who can shoot and defend. They need to do that anyway.

    Mathews may or may not be okay at SG next year.

    Fez and Koufos will not be much better as they never get the playing time they have to have to improve.

    For the Jazz to contend they have to have a tall athletic PF, a Fez type C to back up if Okur can't hit, an SF who can shoot and defend, ditto for SG and a better back up PG.

    Many changes are needed.

  • wylliam
    April 5, 2010 9:39 a.m.

    Well the game with OKC and with PH are going to dicide the Jazz seat. I think the Jazz can win these games. heres how I have the seats. 1.Lakers 60-22 2.Utah 55-27 3.Dallas 54-28 4.Phoenix 54-28 5.Denver 52-30 6.OKC 51-31 7.Portland 51-31 8.SA 50-32. With help from these games LA vs Den (4-8), Port vs Dallas (4-9), Phoenix vs Denver (4-13). Denver drops 2 games we need 2 games because of the tiebraker. Dallas 1 game,Jazz better record. Phoenix we beat them better record and tiebreaker, of course we have to win all our games

  • If only
    April 5, 2010 9:47 a.m.

    We had not lost those stupid games to Minnesota, especially the one at home; and several other unexplicable losses to lottery teams, we would be solidly in second place.

  • Losing
    April 5, 2010 9:48 a.m.

    Think about this for a minute. The Jazz struggle against the triangle offense. They are lucky to beat MN and can only beat LA on a fluke.

    The offense of Kobe, Gasol and Odom (or Kobe, Bynum, Gasol/Odom) can easily over power the defense of DWill/Mathews, Okur, Boozer/Millap.

    The losses to LA and teams similar to LA are built into the Jazz. The Jazz simply do not have the defensive talent to beat such teams.

    The problem is in the coaching and front office. They insist on players at key positions who are not the best fit for the Sloan system.

    Name one player besides DWill who is ideal for the position they play in the Sloan system! The system has to carry the players not the other way around.

    That only addressed the offense. Name one player who is a great defender? Mathews, a rookie is maybe the best on ball defender. AK is a good help defender. Neither are great and the rest of the team are worse.

    The current roster is not designed to maximize the Sloan offense and it is a poor to mediocre defensive team.

    They can beat weak teams.

  • page
    April 5, 2010 9:52 a.m.

    face the fact LA has are number.Jackson has the Jazz right where he wants them. can not for the life of me see why sloan wont play Fesenko.

  • Hibbert
    April 5, 2010 9:55 a.m.

    killed the Jazz at IND. Hibbert was projected to be drafted by the Jazz. Koufos is actually a better player than Hibbert but Hibbert got developed and Koufos did not.

    Hibbert was nicknamed the "turtle" because he was so slow. Amazing what a little development can do. Also amazing how bad the Jazz interior defense was on a slow player.

    If the current Jazz bigs can't defend Hibbert then how can they defend Gasol or several other bigs?

  • Avoid the Lakers
    April 5, 2010 9:57 a.m.

    Not going to happen with Sloan as head coach, but the 6th seed may be a lot better than the 4 or 5 spot.

  • Change management
    April 5, 2010 10:04 a.m.

    The problem with the Jazz is they don't read the comment boards to get all the brilliant basketball coaching and management tips. It must be frustrating that no one on the professional level is calling to offer millions for your obvious insight into the game, let alone on the college, high school, or junior high school levels. There's no question that if the Jazz fired all coaches and replaced them with Josemg, Sokol, Jazz Cop, and The Problem is Still, the Jazz would unquestionably go undefeated and have an unchallenged dynasty for the foreseeable future.

    You can't keep that kind of basketball genius down for long. I'm sure the call will come.

  • jbra80
    April 5, 2010 10:17 a.m.

    At some point this year, you'd think our coach that has a team thats fighting for a #2 seed, might get a little respect from the fans. When the season was starting, our team looked like a 4/5 seed on paper, we're either right there or even better. I'm ok with that. I even think that aside from the Lakers, who present too many matchup problems, we could beat any other team in a series if we play right.

  • jbra80
    April 5, 2010 10:20 a.m.

    Nice post at 10:04, I really like the last line. I'm still laughing.

  • @change management
    April 5, 2010 10:39 a.m.

    It does not take genius to see the obvious. And there has been years of obvious.

    We are only drawing the same conclusions that others (who do get paid tons of money) have drawn about the Jazz at various points in time over the last 3 years.

    Keep drinking the kool aid. You will get the same old results. Keep bashing anyone who points out the obvious and the Jazz will remain what they are.

    The Jazz are not mismanaged in the sense that they make money and make the playoffs. However, if you want a ring you have to match key players with key positions.

    Kobe is ideal for the triangle. Gasol and Odom are also. Bynum is a close fit. Artest and Fish are adequate. Everyone but Fish are very good to great defenders.

    If you are going to insist on the Sloan system then put people into key positions that fit on both offense and defense.

    Stop building in mismatches that can be exploited.

    To win the Jazz either have to outscore opponents or defend well enough or both. Right now they can do that against the best teams in the West.

    Get the right players.

  • PurplePeopleEater
    April 5, 2010 10:54 a.m.

    No team is numerically out of 2nd or 3rd place running yet.

    I don't remember it ever being like this.

    No matter how the seeds fall out, there won't be any patsies in ANY seed.

    The fight for home court is gonna be fun!

    So, here it goes my predictions:

    1. Lakers at 60-22
    2. Jazz at 55-27 (go from 4th to 2nd if they beat Thunder)
    3. Mavs at 53-29 (div champs tiebreaker over Nuggets)
    4. Nuggets at 53-29
    5. Suns at 52-30 (tiebreaker over Thunder [projecting Suns to beat Thunder when they meet])
    6. Thunder at 52-30
    7. Blazers at 51-31 (tiebreaker over Spurs)
    8. Spurs at 51-31 (they COULD upset the Lakers!)

    It's VERY important for the Jazz to beat the Thunder Tuesday night. Otherwise, they could easily end up 4th or 5th (or worse).

  • Anon2
    April 5, 2010 11:13 a.m.

    Embrace the roll in the Staples Center! The entertainers want to be entertained with their star act:the Lakers. Any opponent is a foil for the skills and talents of the Lakers. We should applaud that we are part of the act, be gracious to our hosts, in awe of our audience, and play with the Lakers as in a symphony.

  • Change Management
    April 5, 2010 11:14 a.m.

    To @change management - the Jazz get more out of their players than probably anyone else in basketball, and that's a result of the coaching. Have you heard lately of Howard Eisley, Shandon Anderson, or Gordon Giricek? Did you hear of Bryan Russell or Greg Ostertag after they left? We were going to the playoffs every year with them playing key roles. How many playoff teams have an UNDRAFTED rookie as a team member, let alone as a major contributing starter? When have we ever had a Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Wilt Chamberlain, or Michael Jordan?

    Bad coaches don't have successful teams, no matter the talent. Good coaches get better than expected results from their circumstances, even if they can't rise to the top. Let's face it - the Lakers are probably just a better team than the Jazz when you consider the star-level talent of the players and coaches, and we could play even or win against any other team in the NBA - and YOU'RE COMPLAINING!!!

    I'll stick with Sloan, but you just keep waiting for that call!

  • The Truth
    April 5, 2010 11:42 a.m.

    Change Management=sloanaholic. Didn't we have the rights to Magic at one point? Dominic? You have to go to the lottery to get that type of talent in Utah. We got D-Will and a couple others would have been nice. Portland and OKC, not the biggest markets in the NBA, have more talent and number 1 or 2 picks due to the way they chose to build their team. At some point, Sloan's success has hindered Utah's ability to get lottery talent. Good enough to win games, not good enough to win championships=good but not great. I'm not saying it's all Jerry's fault! But let's not kill the fans who want to win a championship. Sometimes you may have to take a step back to move forward. The only way that happens next year is if the Jazz move into the top 3. We will never find the next MJ,Kobe,Lebron picking outside of the lottery! FA forget it!

    To me the key with LA and the Jazz is Odum, somehow the Jazz have to come up with a matchup so he doesn't hurt us so much!!

  • NGB
    April 5, 2010 11:55 a.m.

    The nuggets did all they could to replicate the lakers, still got a coach that's out with cancer and they could possibly lose in the first round w/o him. they also have an injured KMart, which doesn't help their depth.

    Everyone that's on here, the experts, will say that we can't win with these guys.

    Well we beat the spurs, portland, and dallas this year and own those series.

    Spurs beat LA yesterday at LA, so if they matchup with the lakers 1st or 2nd round we could be given a gift.

    Dallas made all these changes but still lose to a knicks team at home which we beat a week later. They have as much Jekyl and Hyde in them as we do.

    If the jazz get the right matchup, they could be ok. everyone is crying cuz we lost to the lakers, best team in the west, big deal, so have a lot of teams this season, but we don't know what's going to happen in the playoffs, it seems to be anybody's year in the west with the lakers looking mortal on the road and vs veteran teams, spurs.

  • To the Truth
    April 5, 2010 12:01 p.m.

    I agree WE need to stop Odem somehow and we need to mix up our offense a little just for LA. They seem to disrupt us more than anyone. I think Jackson has Jerry's system figured out

  • blauch
    April 5, 2010 12:04 p.m.

    Utah always struggle against LA better. I don't quite know why

    LA against Utah - They shot 43% and shot 7 for 20 from 3 point line and had 40 points in the paint.
    LA against SA - They shot 40% and shot 5 for 21 from 3 point line and had 40 points in the paint

    They played slightly better offensively against Utah but they haven't played well offensively for a while. LA beat Utah by 14 then lost to SA by 19.

    And don't give me that length garbage. The Jazz scored 54 points in the paint (6 points more than San Antonio).

    Over the last 7 games the Jazz have been on 3 pointer shooting hot streak. Right after a 4 game slump (including a 0 for 9 outing)

    Home against Boston - 7 for 21 - 33%
    At Toronto - 8 for 20 - 40%
    At Indiana - 10 for 18 - 55%
    At Washington - 5 for 12 - 41%
    Home against NY - 9 for 16 - 56%
    Home against GS - 8 for 19 42%
    At LA - 4 for 15 - 26%

    This is mental. Not Coaching, Not strategy, not LA defense.

    The Jazz beat OKC and gets the 2nd seed

  • who cares
    April 5, 2010 12:37 p.m.

    jazz get the 2 seed then we'll all be happy and figure that they're getting to the conference finals. if they get the 3 seed then we'll all be content but figure they could've done better. they get the 4 seed or lower then we'll figure there's no reaosn to watch them at all for the playoffs

  • Anonymous
    April 5, 2010 12:55 p.m.

    Truthfully - I have loved watching this year and I'm dang proud of our Jazz guys! I think they have really upped thier game and get real sick of everyone coming out of the woodwork everytime they have a bad night. Maybe I need to hire you all to work for me since you obviously never will call in sick, never have a bad day, give 110% everyday, even if you are working off of 3 hours of sleep, and still know the exact way every play should be made so no mistakes will ever happen! Wow - I'd be doing great!!

    As for the finals of this, when it all comes down to it - Lakers will not win this year. Cav's are going to destroy them (if the Lakers make it that far). Kobe does not compare at all to LeBron. And for that matter, based on the voting I've seen out there, most people would rather see Garnett than him too. I personally would take Howard too. And with all three of these guys, they are individuals who have my respect. Something Kobe will never have!!

    Go Jazz! Gotta Love it Baby!

  • Anonymous
    April 5, 2010 12:56 p.m.

    Who cares what seed they get? There is a reason you NEVER hear analysts, players, coaches talk about the Jazz as a team to beat in the playoffs. Sloan talks about defense but always plays offensive players. Boozer and Miles are two of the worst defensive starters in the NBA yet they dominate the minutes while Millsap wastes away on the bench. This works in the regular season not in the playoffs.

  • To Anonymous @ 12:56
    April 5, 2010 1:06 p.m.

    Ummm - Millsap is on the bench because 8 out of 10 times, he's in foul trouble!!

  • Todd C
    April 5, 2010 1:17 p.m.

    Never seen worse refereeing than what happened in the first half in LA. The refs have a mandate to give all close calls to LA and to never call fouls when Jazz players are hacked. I guess the only reason is that the Lakers might sell more shirts and hats if they win again. I don't agree with that. Look what Boise State has done for college football. Lets have some fair competition.

  • The Truth @ blauch
    April 5, 2010 1:28 p.m.

    I agree the Jazz have a mental issue with LA just like they did with San Antonio. However, Utah has two holes (matchup issues) when it comes to LA.....the two guard and the length of the Laker's bigs. SA has Manu and Duncan to counter act what LA does....Utah not so much! If Parker comes back, watchout for SA in any series....I hope all of the Jazz fans aren't penciling Utah into the 2 seed just yet and if they get there, it doesn't mean they will reach the WCF. With all these 50 win teams in the west would it really be an upset if anyone outside of LA lost?? The regular season doesn't mean that much because of travel, number of games played in any given week, back to back. Matchups are more important when it comes to playoffs...where are your advantages and how can you exploit the other team.

  • really?
    April 5, 2010 1:30 p.m.

    Fesenko is not the Jazz's savior--he's not going to be the difference between a "W" and an "L".

    Over the summer, we need to shed Fes and Kosta and upgrade with an athletic, tall defender who can jump and move his feet, unlike our trio of white, unathletic centers. If we draft Cole Adrich, I'm officially giving up on this team.

  • @ Really?
    April 5, 2010 2:00 p.m.

    No Fess may not be the savior, but one thing is certain in case you and alot of others that comment on here regularly don't realize, this league is all about nightly match-ups. Therefore Fess and Koufus do remain valuable to some sort. Korver doesn't fit some nights, neither does C.J. Mathews, Booxer, Memo and Milsap. Gosh thats funny that just about takes in the whole team.

  • todd from santa ana
    April 5, 2010 2:20 p.m.

    I am not as certain about Koustos, it comes back to the fact the Jazz could pick up a bigger athletic low post threat, and or defender/shot blocker and could have kept Fes as a back up and let him continue to improve. Again We could have likely at the deadline acquired such a player. It would have meant from a pool of Korver, Miles, and Okur one or 2 of those would have to had been accepted in a deal Okur probably could have brough the value. You are not going to win the title wit a 7 footer taking 25 footers. Yes he is good offensively and has improved defensively, when he wants to be improved.

    Kirilenko is not reliable and that salary is like a dog leash around this franchise. It seems he is a 50 game player per season. I do not care how good he is wen he plays and helps us. In this economy it makes no sense to have a part-time player making this money for a injury prone player.

  • Draft
    April 5, 2010 2:51 p.m.

    If the front office were serious they could buy a top 10 pick with cash every year and then get the talent that they need.

    That is a lot better than overpaying good but not great talent, who do not fit the system all that well.

  • todd on clueless people
    April 5, 2010 2:59 p.m.

    The posts that ignore how the Spurs beat the lakers, gee how Tall is Richard Jeferson over Boozie?

    everyone talks about Ginobli how a mismatch against LA?

    What driving to the hole;,........Gee what we cannot do that?

    What helped the Spurs was Mcdeyess defense and length and Duncan ability in the low post to neutralize if not outplay Gasol. Duncan demands a double team so he just finds the cutters for easy baskets. Popovich men were always moving without the ball. Duncan moves around the basket a powerful guy who can finish, Odom did nothing.. teams will be scouting what the Spurs did if smart.

    Sloan could have or would not do anything but say "we are not tough enough, we need to compete"

    same impeded speech deficit

  • Long Run
    April 5, 2010 3:12 p.m.

    I do not have great expectations of this years team.

    I want the Jazz to make the changes this summer they have to make to beat LA, DEN, OKC, POR next year.

    The interior D has to improve and the ability to score against the above teams also has to improve both on the inside and the wings.

    I want to see a team that is designed to beat LA. If that happens then the Jazz should be able to handle the rest of the West.

    The Jazz are so afraid of change. DAL at least tries hard to win. So does DEN. They make mistakes but both of them have done as well as the Jazz in recent years.

    The current players do not optimize Sloan's offense and they are average at best on defense. There is a lot of room for improvement.

    Start with a top pick this year and if necessary buy another top pick. Trade up in the draft to get what is needed.

    The fans will support and wait a year or 2 if the right players are drafted.

    Draft the inside players needed. Trade for wings. Optimize the system. Sloan is not retiring.

  • Bolerjack?
    April 5, 2010 3:23 p.m.

    Who cares what Bolerjack says? Why you giving him credibility as if he knows something? He's the reason I turned the volume down on TV. Next thing you know you'll promote David Locke.

  • They Jazz
    April 5, 2010 3:25 p.m.

    replaced AK, Brewer and Korver with CJ, Price and Mathews. That coupled with an off night from Okur is enough to lose to LA in LA. Millsap also had a bad night and got burned by Odom.

    LA is not as good as last year and can be beat by several of the teams in the West. However, the Jazz are exploited by LA, DEN and OKC. We really do not know how they will fare against the revamped DAL. PHO is also a problem for them.

    The Jazz have tried to fix one weakeness. They are shooting sporadically better on the wings. They are still very weak on interior D.

    In the long run one or more of Boozer, Millsap and Okur has to go to get better interior D against tall athletic front lines. This weakness kills the Jazz.

    The Jazz inside offense struggles on nights when the wings do not shoot well. The Jazz also struggle when they do not get to the line often.

    The offense is not versatile enought (yet) and the defense is a little better but not good enough.

  • NGB
    April 5, 2010 3:27 p.m.

    Todd, everyone knows the spurs have length and a good team, the only reason they are not better is injuries and they are ancient.

    Again, Odom this month has done jack except against us, funny how he exploits are lack of an athletic big man, paul isn't quick enough or tall enough so we would need AK on him, but he's MIA which kills me for that monsterous contract for him to be out with a calf strain.

    Booz, who has been a sissy in past years with injuries had a calf strain and was out for a week, AK is making this look like a torn Hammy like Roy had earlier. Get on the court AK, we need your length.

    The real issue was that they were too scared in the first quarter and the lakers could taste it, it was so abundant. They got close, but all they needed to do was stay with the lakers in the first and it could have been interesting, just like the spurs did.

    Its not coaching, PLAYERS got to play, booz stop fading and go straight up and have some confidence,same with memo

  • NGB
    April 5, 2010 3:35 p.m.

    On the Draft: If we don't trade up, which it might not be worth it if we can't crack the top 3 or 4, but if we could trade up and get an athletic wing like wes johnson or heaven forbid evan turner, get rid of AK's contract and get a decent back up big man that'd be a scenario.

    Other: stay with our pick and draft greg monroe, 6'11 with booz's offensive ability, better passer, and can match up against pau and odom, may not be as fast, but wont be intimidated by the length.

    We need to stop drafting these players with upside, we need someone who can contribute now, I like the second scenario because we could try and get something for AK later. Booz wants the money we cant give him or would want to give him. we dont need another AK contract for someone with the same injury status.

    TODD: what say you on these matters???

  • NYJazzFan
    April 5, 2010 4:11 p.m.

    The Jazz do have someone that can guard Odom, its AK 47. Sloan, stop having him guard Kobe (leave that to Mathews). Odom likes to hang out on the perimeter so AK can still help at the hoop. AK has blocked Odom's shots plenty of times. If Sloan has AK guard Odom, if Bynum doesnt come back and if Mathews/Miles do a decent job on Kobe, then the Jazz have a slim chance...

  • Hollywood
    April 5, 2010 4:18 p.m.

    Agree to a point with NGB. But everyone in the draft has "upside." You're not going to draft a guy to come in and give you an all-star performance his first year. Deron took time, Roy and Durant have taken a couple of years to develop.

    Utah is in kind of a catch-22. No one they draft is going to have the impact Boozer would. But Carlos is clearly no match for the Lakers. And we won't know until a few months AFTER the draft whether re-signing Boozer is even possible.

    It looks like the Jazz will probably draft 9th. Monroe may already be gone. Aminu and Johnson will probably be gone. It's likely the best players left on the board will be Xavier Henry (SG), Motiejunas (Kosta clone), Patterson (undersized PF) and Whiteside (very raw center).

    I'm sure KOC will try to use the Memphis pick to move up a few notches. If he can't, I say draft Whiteside. The kid is already a great shot-blocker. Then we're pretty much forced to re-sign Carlos and try to trade AK's expiring conract for a better SF.

  • Carlos
    April 5, 2010 8:14 p.m.

    comes at a very high price.

    1. He is not the right PF to beat LA.
    2. He will get a max contract for 5 years.
    3. He is injury prone.
    4. He is old and will be a bad contract in years 4 and 5.
    5. Korver will have to go to pay for Boozer and Korver will have to be replaced by someone good.
    6. AK's contract may be expiring but the Jazz got little out of Brewer and MEM wanted Brewer.

    I still think that instead of paying max contracts to players who are good but not ideal, pay cash to move up in the draft. It is a lot cheaper in the long run to get exactly what you want. There are lottery teams who will take cash to move down a little in the draft.

    For the Jazz to compete they have to have the right PF (no compromise). The Sloan system will not run without it. Fez/Koufos may eventually fix the C position well enough. There are usually a lot of talented wings it is just a matter of price.

    The Jazz are using D-league to build a decent bench.

  • Please?
    April 5, 2010 8:45 p.m.

    Jody you are better then the Bollerjack call.

  • RE: Change Management | 11:14 a.
    April 5, 2010 9:38 p.m.

    With that list players on the jazz roster

    it was no wonder the JAzz never won a championship.


    you got mediocre to bad players,

    who have MILD success in a system that has NEVER won championship, ever,

    not even with 2 of the supposedly greatest ever IN KEY POSITIONS!


    IT's no wonder.


    not the right players,

    not the right coach,

    not the right system


    = no championship,


    blame managment for running a successful business?

    No.


    but there is certainly plenty of blame to go around for NOT winning championships.


  • jbra80
    April 5, 2010 11:01 p.m.

    NGB: I liked your post, especially "Its not coaching, PLAYERS got to play". Far too often Sloan is getting the blame, he gets nailed for saying our players need to play with more toughness, when that is about the most appropriate comment you could make. Whether it's moving w/ your feet on D, driving to the basket and going up hard, or hammering a guy instead of giving up an uncontested layup, we should be more than capable of doing all 3.

    On the draft: My target would be Favors of GT. Johnson or Turner obviously would be nice but I love the freakish athletic ability of Favors. If we stand pat, I think all 3 would be off the board and Monroe would be nice at 8 or 9. I just worry that he wouldn't fall to us and we'd be stuck w/ Aldrich. Whiteside is definitly a risk, he's got amazing upside, but I wouldn't really like to see a project taken in the top 10.

  • todd from santa ana
    April 6, 2010 1:35 a.m.

    I am not as versed watching the college game as Chico, JBra and others. I know this much AMINU he is that guy at Wake Forest, he played here at the Anaheim Convention Center in Thanksgiving tournament, he is a tremendous, athletic player-nice game

  • NGB
    April 6, 2010 10:22 a.m.

    Re:Todd, ok if you aren't as versed in the college realm, then would you rather dump booz, keep the wings we have and get a taller or just another PF or try and keep booz, drop Korver and get another wing player?

  • todd to ngb
    April 6, 2010 2:29 p.m.

    Matthews is developing well. I am happy, he could a pretty good pro. When Korver is healthy, the way he is shooting this season, he has value. MY biggest issue is I would like a better Center that can clog the paint. I will trade less points for better defense over Okur. Okur to me could be a great 6th man. If Okur is in, we need better defense help than him and Boozer together.

    The things is the power forwards may be available, are the ones we keep hearing about. Chris Bosh I would and could be happy as a slightly taller player than Boozer.

    There are so many issues. If Boozer is not resigned, it will be expected and demanded from his camp that Paul replaces him. He just does not have the skill set or height to operate as a #4.

    This would mean you now have a physical, dominating type Center....Kaman is not overly physical, Haywood is in Dallas

    Maybe the Nets would take Kirilenko and a trade for young Robin Lopez, have them throw in Josh Boone for depth frontcourt size. see if they take Korver