In a sea of fools I'm glad we have professionals that are smart enough to do
research, or have someone do it for them.
Never gets old. Just kinda tired.
That is a HOOT! Thanks for my daily dose of humor.
Great stuff. Thanks to Petraeus for visiting BYU and thanks to the proactive
people at the Y that invited him.
Great sense of humor
That is the funniest thing I've read in days! Thanks General! I salute you!
Yes, he certainly had help from Mormon insiders to nail down the cultural
quirks. But they came from his mouth; therefore, he owns the words. I would
have loved to have been there. My father is a retired Air Force officer and WW
II veteran, my oldest brother is retired Army, and my sister has a son who is a
graduate of the Naval Academy. Good for BYU for getting General Petraeus to
speak on campus.God bless those who are willing to put themselves in
harm's way to protect our freedoms and the freedoms of others.
"Mr. Petraeus, thank you so much for visiting our school. As you have requested
we have provided with a list of Mormon related jokes."
That is so funny! But how does he know those things?? Does the gov't have spies
in Utah keeping an eye on things??
General Petraeus is my candidate for next President of the United States. Seems
to me he is the one who put in the concept of going into a village and staying
Nice intro, but where's the rest of the story. Didn't he have anything
intelligent to say? BTW, it looks like he had insider help to do this list. A
lot like when Bobby Kennedy came to BYU years ago.
I used to golf with a guy that went to West Point with the general. Said he was
one of the best men you would ever meet.
he probably has LDS friends in the military. We kinda stick out...
The rest... would be located in the box to the right called "Related Content."
This article was called "General Petreaus: Top 10 reasons BYU grads make great
soldiers" and I think the author shared that with us.
This was great! I especially liked the line about assigning insurgents home
Of course he had help. So what? The funniest line was the one about insurgents
and home teaching. That could only come from a Mo.And as a U of U
fan, I found # 1 hilarious!
This shows you one of the biggest problems with people in general. How long did
it take you to figure out there were additional/ related articles and point it
out to "the Rest" and yet so many responders in the comments sections don't have
all of the facts but thin they do, especially in the education field.
he had help! He sought information and ideas from those in the BYU community for
his list. AND, he did a fantastic job with fielding questions from obnoxious,
self-important BYU students.
Seems nice, seems intelligent, glad he is on our side,on second
thoughtwere he on the other side, he might be able to talk some
sense into the other side and we might be even further ahead.
Hillarious!!! Someone had a ton of fun helping him put that together. Number one is going to stick, the axis of evil, i.e. the University of Utah!
It can't be, another BYU positive reinforcement story. I don't want to believe
it. You know what... I won't.
I was expecting to read something very informative and ended up getting a great
laugh. Thanks for speaking at the "Y" and thanks for serving our country.
to speak in Conference next weekend so the rest of us can hear him. Sounds like
1 awesome dude..
That list is so true. I always had my year supply of food over in Iraq and our
captives always told us the information we needed when we threatend them with
Really? A lame top 10? And you're featuring it as top news on your website?
He either had inside men or he is LDS. Some one fill our a referral card for
him. I'd vote for him.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! That made my day.
Some people will complain about anything.. No this isn't news, it's just a
funny. There's nothing wrong with just injecting a little levity into the day.
Of course, somebody helped him write it, so what? Just enjoy it without being so
that this isn't another "attack" on Organized Religion?I liked 6, 7,
Wish I would have heard the whole talk and interviewBut love anything
Gen/David Petraeus says anyway.
I thought they just promoted Rightwing war-thirsty politics and then avoided
His talk, etc. is going to be replayed several times on byu.org and one other
station. It was a great and informative talk.
This guy is pretty funny! :-) Did he actually say all this stuff...??? I
think he has our number! Oh, Oh!..... Doh!!!
Glad I'm a Vet (30+ yrs.) and a BYU grad.....we need more like Gen. Petraeus and
NO MORE like: Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Steny, Barney etc......
Are you really so insensitive towards a religion that you take advantage of a
lightheaded story to spread false generalizations and stereotypes?
Not sure I see the humor in old jokes that have been used thousands of times,
written by a member on his "staff" in an effor to make sure the audience was on
his side. He's a great man, a great leader, etc., but this unoriginal top 10
really isn't worth the press it's getting. Does the BYU president really find
him as funny as the picture portrays? Just all seems awkward.
Is it just me or does someone else feel the general has "betrayed us" (LOL!)
with his inside knowledge of BYU and the LDS Church?...hahahaaa.... kidding
aside, I think his top 10 was funny!!!
Boy some of you have a hard time accepting a funny intro to a serious talk. If
you want more on the talk just check it out elsewhere in the Des. News.I'll ask my son the Lt. Colonel who he thinks prepped the good General.
All you stuffed shirts that can't laugh once in awhile, get a life!!!!! His
talk, his whole talk was great and he answered the somewhat silly questions
graciously and intelligently.
Funny Funny.... One thing about mormons is that we can laugh at our selves. We
are secure in our religion. Also I like it when a big sports or movie star tries
to say potentially offensive comments about out religion because we all end up
laugh together. A good example is when Colby did that and we all laugh. Good
This clown is supposed to be in charge of our milatery? What a bufoon. I hope
he relizes the offence this kind of humor inflix upon the saints. This is the
most inapproprate invited guest to byu since billy jole played the marrott
center in the 90's and made fun of the holyer-than-thou atmosfere of provo.;)
It would be interesting and informative to find out how many current BYu
students have served or plan to serve in the military? What are the numbers
compared to the general poputlation?
Maybe you should type your letter in WORD and do a spell check. Who's the
to Heber K: You obviously weren't in attendance. Had you listened to all
of his remarks, you would think differently. Have you never been to a
devotional at BYU? Some speakers open up with light-hearted stories or humorous
beginnings. Get a life, Mr. Romney. Try smiling.
His picture, looks like he is really having a good time. I admire anyone who
serves our country and has such a sense of humor. The comments he made even
though some old were still funny. His way of saying he cared and knew it would
be accepted in the spirit it was given! My opinion. I see no malice.
If you are taking offense, then you need to "get a life!" No one else is taking
There are many LDS soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen. Much of the LDS
doctine is to do your bit and earn your keep. Prior to my joining the LDS Church
I learned a lot about it from a fellow marine in a place we referred to as Dog
Patch! He was a fine example. By being around many of the LDS serviceman, those
of who were not affiliated with organized religion learned lots about LDS
doctine. The good general might not have been prompted as much as one would
think by BYU representatives regarding LDS peculiarities.
"Axis of Evil," that's just about the funniest/True thing I have ever read. Wish
I would have thought of that. BTW, his full remarks were great, so
those who are hating, once again, need to chill.
FYI, for those that can't grasp why he knows so much about the LDS, generals
have speach writers too...just like the president. I'll bet a nickel that one
of his speach writers is a BYU grad...
His actually (secretly) LDS, like Steve Martin is and Elvis Presley too :) j/k
This beats most of Letterman's Top 10 lists. Funny stuff!GEN
Petraeus is a true hero who found a way to balance military and civil
humanitarian operations. The US military is a force for good in the world today,
in no small part thanks to his leadership.
No matter what, there is always an idiot who wants to find something negative to
say, on any article that has the words BYU or LDS, never fails. That's why the
world is upside down, people want to dwell on negative thinking. I think the
General is an intelligent individual who knows what he is talking about. He has
the respect of all Soldiers.
He has a speech writer. So what? Petraeus is a general. His job is delivering
military results, not entertaining. But it's still funny! And true.
oh man. that was funny.
The general has a very good team of intelligence operatives collecting data for
the missions he undertakes.
As a West Point and BYU grad, and having served along with then MG Petraeus in
Iraq, I can guarantee he always does his homework before speaking anywhere. His
use of levity to begin his talk is ... well, just about like most every other
very effective speaker we rally around!As part of my job over there,
I was privileged to spend a couple hours with him up in Mosul discussing why
"security" was working in his sector, while suffering nearly everywhere else in
Iraq. It was not by accident he was selected later to lead the entire force in
country.Gen Petraeus is a pleasure to serve with, a leader
extraordinaire, and most folks in the military would follow him anywhere as his
innovative thinking, combined with unadulterated common sense and ultimate "lead
by example" attitude, separate him from most people -- inside or outside the
I watched him live on BYU television Ch. 11 Thursday night. The talk will be
repeated next week several times for anyone who missed it. He was absolutely
brilliant and funny at the same time. What a good man and a great leader! Thank
you for running this story for more people to be aware of it. Tuning into this
talk would be even better if you are interested.
They do make really great soldiers.
As a U of U grad and proud US Sailor, I will take that number one "bullet" with
pride...muuuahahahaha....Iraq was overrated for that title anyway.
I truly appreciate it when our military leaders take time to offer their respect
to us as latter day saints, just as I appreciate it that the church takes so
much care to make sure that members in the military care cared for. Having
served in Iraq twice and Afghanistan once over the last seven years, I've had an
opportunity to see the results that have come forth from GEN Petraeus'
leadership and vision, and they are extraordianry. The western media will tell
you how bad it is, but fewer people die, per capita, on the average day in Iraq,
than do on the average day in America. These people are learning to govern
themselves in their own way, and that's an incredible gift that Im proud to have
taken part in giving. We owe GEN Petraeus a deep debt. He has served his
country with all of his heart might mind and strength for many many years.
There are very few men with the character, dedication, and vision that he
General David H. Petraeus is a national hero, patriot, and great American. His
"Top 10 reasons BYU grads make great soldiers" are simply hilarious. It is very
sad to hear a few people call him General "Betray Us." This man would be a 100
times better president than the current POTUS. I thank him for his dedicated
service to our country that our current politicians are running into the ground.
If we ever needed to go to Martial Law, this is the military man I would like to
be in charge.
Thanks for the humor General...
This is pretty funny, red or blue, member or non.
One thing which is in this joke. The General's desire to recuite
the Mormon youth for services. Why? it is not new. the goverment see them
as best because of decipline and their high morality that they were
raised. Now, we are in time as country losing our position in World
as super power in all aspects. economy, political influences, militery.
due to our losing of our morality and values. So only way now
visible, is to learn from this Church how to teach our kids. We
need restoration of faith. and that is what thischurch is about.
Class act from a very class man! Our troops are in good hands!
This comment is not related in exactly the same way that the other comments have
been. Yes General Petraeus' comments were funny, but does everyone realize who
they were directed to? They were directed to those future soldiers, those
student/soldiers who are training and preparing to serve their country in Iraq
and Afghanistan. Those same 200+ student/soldiers that were turned away at the
door of the JSB auditorium in a rude manner and sent to watch the question and
answer session on a projector screen in a separate building. Is it right that
the student/soldiers that are preparing to, and if needed, give their lives for
their country under the orders of General Petraeus' command do not get to meet
their General when he comes to visit their home campus? Is it right that those
student/soldiers do not get to voice their questions because they are not
allowed in the auditorium when their commander comes to visit? Metaphorically
speaking, if Isaac Newton or Albert Einstein was coming to speak at BYU, I would
gladly give my seat up to the physics major. Should it not be the same for the
The ROTC detachments at BYU/UVU (they're combined) for Army and Air Force are
the largest in the nation outside of traditional military schools.So
in response to previous comments, yes BYU does actually make soldiers and airmen
that serve, and really this is the last place General Petraeus would need to
recruit. When it comes to signing up, BYU students don't need a motivational
speech from top brass. We do it on our own.General Petraeus said
multiple times that his staff wrote his talk and these jokes; "I'm only as good
as they write." I highly recommend watching the whole lecture on kbyu whenever
it airs! He generally described the situation in central command and what he's
responsible for and then opened up the balance of the time for Q&A.
It was an honor to have the General visit campus. Although it would have been
great to sit in the same auditorium with some of my companions, it was an honor
to watch him and be on the same campus.By the way, did nobody get
that "Heber K. Romney" was satirical?
It's too bad that Gen. Petraeus couldn't speak @ the Marriot center. We have
had several other keynote speakers for BYU forums that do not have the global
impact of authority similar to his. His willingness to come here is not for
recruitment but more for acknowledgment. The state of UT is the primary
provider of all the linguists and the best provider of military intelligence
personnel. I recommend that you remember that your opinions can be
freely offered as they have been ONLY because someone else volunteered (or was
drafted) to eliminate an enemy that you have never met, and hopefully will never
ever have to. And also remember that those people who sacrifice don't do it for
you. They do it for their brothers they are in the fight with. (Also mentioned
in Gen. Petraeus' talk) "Get a life"???? No, live it, and live it well. Do
something, and do it well. Enjoy your freedoms and show others respect by your
words and actions always.
Agreed Army Soldier, it was a bit disappointing to have to march around campus
and not know what was going on or where we were going. I was looking forward to
meeting or seeing General Petraeus. That being said, if all the cadets there
that day (BYU, UVU, SUU, and Dixie) sat in that auditorium, there would not be
any space for the public. You should have heard the cadets when he asked for
that Hooah! I don't understand why they chose such a small auditorium for a
distinguished speaker when they knew there would be such a large turnout. It was
good to hear how intelligent spoke about even the most potentially controversial
topics as well as have humour and humility about it. Overall, a great leader
indeed. (I say he runs for president as well)
Great article, Des News! Thanks for posting it. BYU showed a lot of class in
having a terrific military leader come to speak. And it shows the sense of
humor the gentleman and the school both share. I was touched by the article.
Funny stuff. Glad to see the General has a sense of humor. Thanks for your
Enjoyed the article. Wish I could have been there, but I'm off serving my
country. The list was humorous. Glad to see folks like him speaking at my alma
mater. I met him at a memorial ceremony (for an LDS Soldier, BTW, killed by an
IED) once in Kirkuk, Iraq. Impressive fellow. Humble and a gentleman.
Very funny! Enjoyed the remarks and I will pass this one along.
Outstanding General. You did your homework. God bless you and the US Army.
"year's supply" not years' supply
If you don't mind the base being finished 40 years later sure....
A man who has a PhD and learned all he could about the culture of Muslims in
Iraq would surely learn as much as he could about the culture of Mormons at BYU.
Besides, the head of the Army ROTC at BYU soldiered with him in the Middle
East. Anyone who wants to know how many Mormons serve in the armed
forces should note that BYU has large Army and Air Force ROTC units; that so
many young men admitted to the Air Force Academy resigned to serve LDS missions,
and successfully returned and excelled, that the Academy now allows any cadet to
take a two year sabbattical for study or service (LDS mission, Peace Corps,
etc.); of my 2 sons, one served in the Army, and my son-in-law served 6 years at
Space Command; that one of the daughters of Mike Young, president of the U of U,
attended the AF Academy; that in my 20 years in the Air Force, there were
substantial LDS congregations at every major Air Force base, including in Japan;
and that the Utah National Guard is the main source of interpreters for the
By the way, I can personally confirm item #9 about being designated drivers. I
filled that role at many military dinners. Let me also note that I
have never encountered prejudice toward Mormons from senior military commanders.
All joking aside, commanders appreciate working with people of integrity, the
Mormons among them. And they have respected colleagues, fellow commanders, who
are Mormons. The story earlier this week noted that the Petraeus visit was set
up by retired General Robert Jordan, a soldier-scholar like Petraeus, who was at
the Institute for Strategic and International Studies at Georgetown University
when I was in his ward in Virginia. I know of at least two members
of the Seventy that were retired generals. Other LDS leaders served in various
capacities, including President Monson (US Navy in WW II), President Uchtdorff
(the modern German Air Force), Neal Maxwell (Army in WW II), Hugh B. Brown
(Canadian Army in WW I), Lance Wickman (Army in Vietnam), and Richard G. Scott
(a civilian nuclear engineer on the staff of Admiral Rickover).
I think Max Hall helped him with #1. This was funny!
Apparently many others have believed that General Petraeus would make an
excellent president. However, there appears to be little chance of that
happening.He was asked in an interview on Fox News if he might someday
consider running for president. His answer was no.He is not into politics.
He has purposely not voted since 2000. The reason is so he can avoid a political
influence in his decision making, etc.He wants his entire focus to be on
serving his country to the best of his ability.I think he would be the
equal of, or more, of General Eisenhower. Unfortunately he makes his own
decisions - independent of me.
very funny, very clever...
I think his remarks are very funny and I enjoyed all comments..sure can tell who
are biased in their oppinions about the church and BYU.
I watched it all on a replay and he did get serious and did a great job.
The General is a true gentleman, scholar and soldier. His 10 reasons display
insight and respect, as well as good humor. We are blessed to have him at the
head of our forces overseas.
That is hilarious! How did he come up with these! He must've received help from
a Mormon, or is he a Mormon? Way awesome!
As a member of the LDS church I don't think this was offensive, it just wasn't
very funny. At all...Maybe his #1, to which I will reluctantly reply "Touch."
But how many times do we have to hear jokes about these stereotypes? Let's hear
something original, people! If I hear one more joke about green jello...;) And
what about those LDS soldiers who attended the University of Utah? Hmmmm? I
know a fair few. I don't know about you Y fans, but us U fans require a bit
more originality and substance! (Okay, there's my shout-out to my alma mater in
their defense.) If we're gonna hear a joke about the Church, make it good! NOT
disrespectful, but at least chuckle-worthy and in good taste. Still, a great message overall regardless of the botched attempt at making a
joke. (For which I'm sure he is not at fault.) And his acknowledgement of of
our outstanding LDS service-men and -women is very much appreciated. This is
purely my opinion on the matter and not an attempt to insult or "hate on" the
General. Oh, and "Go Utes!":)
I will have to admit that in boot camp, the LDS soldiers were usually the
I truly appreciate his comic remarks. Wish I could have been in the MC to hear
the whole thing. We've got to be able to laugh at ourselves once in a while...
you've gotta love the "Axis of Evil" though... I'm sure my U of U friends will
laugh harder than I did... Thanks General! (class of '79)
Heber K is typical of all religious people, clinging to their guns and their
faith when really most of the worlds disagreements could be solved the smart
progressive way. We have to make sure we understand where our enemies are coming
from, why we caused them to hate us. It really is our fault.Just
listen to the promises of the caring forward-thinking, leaders, empower them to
tax, enable them to redistribute the wealth, and everyone will be just fine...
witty remarks that were meant for light-hearted ice breaking...there's a time &
season for everything under the sun, even a time to laugh! ;)
Great stuff. Nice that he took the time to connect with his audience.
Pretty good, wish I had been there :)