Biggest Jazz story no one is talking about: Williams' defense on Rondo. Rajon is
a top 5 guard in the league, and he was shut down, kept from doing what he does
best, driving for layups and dishing dimes. The Celtics had only 15 as a team
last night.Also a top defender at the position, Deron pretty much
had his way with the C's D. Both of these teams seem to go as their point guard
goes.Doc knows the floor general spot. Believe it when he says what
he did about Williams' game.
Deron was agressive and Doc is right about him, he is the best in the NBA.Funny story about Doc, when he was with the Clips in 92 or 93 and they were
playing game 5 of their first round series at the DC, a friend and I were taping
a documentary for school on the floor an hour or so before the game. Both teams
were shooting around, and Rivers was down on the Jazz end talking with some of
the guys. Stockton shot the ball and it hit the back of the iron and rolled all
the way to where we were taping. My friend picked the ball up at midcourt where
we were and fired it like a fastball back to Stockton who was on the opposite
end in the corner. Just as the ball sailed past the key area, Doc Rivers jumped
up to shoot a shot and the ball hit him square in the side of the head.
Stockton was on one knee laughing and Rivers came sprinting over to us looking
to hit someone, the entire left side of his head was bright red. I've never
laughed so hard.
Big Doc Rivers fan here. I usually cheer for the Celtics-when they're not
playing the Jazz. I've always been a big Rivers fan.
the most important position for the Jazz system. When Williams functions well
Jazz almost always win. Back up PG is the 2nd or 3rd most important
position and Utah loses many games each year when DWill is hurt, under
performing or out. Jazz management needs desperately to upgrade the
back up PG position. Gaines may or may not develop. Sloan/DWill were
very smart to attack BOS at PG. BOS does not have a good replacement for Rondo
and you saw them struggle in the second 1/2 when Rondo had 4 fouls. Every team has weaknesses. This time the Jazz attack a weakness and made it
work. Most of the time the other team attacks the Jazz weaknesses.1.
Wings who can't shoot (getting better but inconsistent).2. Poor
inside defense (good last night).3. Stopping the inside game with a
tall line up (exploited by LA/DEN and other teams).4.
Stopping/disrupting DWill (often seen in playoffs and must win games). The Jazz need to play DWill with a tall good shooting PG/SG for many teams.
Price/Gaines can't do that. Gaines may be okay if his shooting improves a
Well put, C33. Rondo was never allowed to get the C's offense clicking. Much of
that because Deron did a fantastic job at disrupting Rajon's flow. The Jazz'
team D in general was phenomenal, in the second half particularly. Pierce was
completely silent and Utah owned the boards. The C's bigs were resorting to
outside jumpers, evidenced by Memo's great rebounding night.
Wings that can't shoot? Umm... have you been paying attention? Since the
Brewer trade both Korver and Matthews are hitting 50% of their three pointers.
Even CJ Miles is in the 40's. The Jazz have addressed this issue.
Korver is the best shooter in the league right now. Matthews is playing out of
his mind, CJ is still streaky, but when he is on, he is on. Last
night CJ was something like 8-16... for a Jazz fan that is not a good night.
But the rest of the league would LOVE to have a guy make 8 out of 16.
Deron runs/pushes it and the Jazz win 90% of those games.If he is
injured/walks the ball up the floor and does not "[ush" his team mates to run
and get into early offense we lose more than we win.It is as
predictable as Fess getting a "stomach virus" every two weeks.It
looked like Deron was healthy enough last night too. No major falls/bangs on
his shoulder/wrist and the ankle tweak seemed fine.We need Deron
healthy because when he is the Jazz motor is running at optimum levels.Have to give Memo some props too. He played his size last night. He can
block shots if he wants to. Historically if Memo gets in foul trouble you can
put a fork in him for the whole game because he is basically done. Last night
he came back in the 3rd Q and 2nd half and busted his tail. If we
had that Memo playing more consistently we could compete against the bigger
teams in the West.
Celtics.They gotta unload some age and get fresh legs again.
I am very aware of the wing play last night and I agree with you in general and
supported the Brewer trade. I was talking in general. The wing play
is still too erratic especially with AK out. AK is not a great shooter but he is
pretty consistent. CJ is very erratic and Korver can be. Mathews is
more consistent but often does not score a lot. If one of the wings
can consistently hit outside shots it alters the game as much as putting Fez in.
Are chances in the playoffs really ride on CJ and Korver being able
to hit the outside shots and keep the inside open. Mathews does not shoot that
much. He is pretty consistent at getting 10 points and once in a while will go
big. The primary weakness still lies in that fact that Sloan/coaches
have not designed plays for outside shooting. Sloan's inside philosophy is sound
but would function much better if he had a few designed 3 point plays. Good screens and getting CJ/Korver good looks make up for the small PFs.
Aggression on both offense and defense make the Jazz run.
@PG: I think you are talking about the Jazz from last year? If you watch them
play this year, they have some new players and some improved players. Might be
a good idea to take in a game or two before you comment on here.
I think it's great that Deron is getting all this attention, but i don't think
he's really earned all the accolades he's been getting. he's not usually so
methodical, with a plan to disrupt the other pg play, he took advantage of some
situations which was great to see, truth be told, he's a really good pg, but he
has a long way to go on the defensive end, I think, but at times last night, he
was playing better defense than i've seen from him in two or three years, if he
plays with that aggresive and smart mentality then I'd say you can talk about
him being the best,right now, i'd have to say billups is the most consistent and
best pg, until deron matures to that point, i think most of the talk is hype? i
know deron can do a better job on defense, it's really a weak link, but if he
brings it like that, that problem will disappear.
you have two good pg's playing different roles. both excel at their particular
assignments. rondo's job is to get the ball to three all-stars +1. if they are
hitting their shots it clears space for rondo to do his thing. if not, he
doesn't look so good. deron's job is in most games to be a scorer in order to
get wins. he also sets up his team well for the others in a team oriented game
master minded by their coaches. if the team can not do their thing well then
deron has to go to the basket. if the team is not doing well then the opposing
team can fall back to cover deron. some nights it works some nights it doesn't.
deron is overall a better fit for his team and a better overall player. rondo is
a good player for his role. it appears that perhaps age has depleted rondo's
team and therefore are losing their edge.
Well said. :)
Man can you imagine if Korver was athletic enough to create his own shot? He
would be unstoppable! I was at the game last night and it was intense! When
Deron gets angry and starts driving it opens up so much! Deron would drive in
the second half and it would leave Okur wide open everytime! I like Ronnie Price
but he slows the game down so much when he comes in
The Jazz are in a Prime position to finish #2. Without Karl Denver will fade,
and the Jazz own the tiebreak with Dallas. I think the Lakers are primed for a
second round upset which would give the Jazz home court advantage in the WCF, if
they could get the #2 seed- then on to the finals!