I'm a little confused about the assertion that there wasn't time to verify the
story. You seem to be saying in this article that Garn confessed.
Interesting, so if it happened 17 years ago it's not news? So all the catholic
priests and molestation and such isn't really news right? I mean, some molested
kids years ago, covered it up and acted one way in public, you're right, that's
not news... wow, way to lost credibility in one fell swoop.
So why is this news now? No wonder newspapers are dying. Seems it is a miracle
the Deseret News deemed their readers could handle reading about Killpack's
arrest. Do you not cover stories until you can no longer ignore them?
Like most media, it seems the D News is not interested in reporting the truth.
Your business depends on the trust of the people of Utah...it sure seems
mindless and short sited to have buried this story. Now the D News' integrity
has really suffered. How many other stories have you buried that you should have
reported? I guess the right of the people to be informed is not that important
to you. Shame on the D News.
While it might have been a good call to not go with the story before the
Primary, it definitely should have been revisited when Garn got back into
politics. Seems like there should have been notes or something from the earlier
2002 conversation that would have been easy to put together into a story.
Someone dropped the ball on that one, even if the $150k payout wasn't known.
The DNews and the Trib may have made the right call in not printing that story
right before an election,when it first surface, but I don't that excuses their
failing to follow up on the story later, especially once Kevin Garn rose to
political prominence in Utah. THAT, to my mind, is where they failed in their
journalistic duty. They got some 'splainin' to do on that part.
A ridiculous response to irresponsible cover up journalism. These execs should
be ashamed of themselves and fess up. If it looks like & walks like a duck . . .
it's a duck. They protected this creep so he wouldn't be in danger of losing the
and they don't run the story!!!!And you call yourself a
newspaper???? More like the Fox News of newspapers.I think
it's obvious why they didn't run the story: because had they run the story of
this guy sexually assaulting a minor, it would have meant that the democrat
would have won the election!
Sorry but this is why I rarely read The D news.
THEY DON'T REMEMBER IT? Just how many stories about nude legislators with
15-year olds have they killed over the years?
How in the world could the Deseret News do this? I can see being
circumspect regarding the timing of when the story might be pursued. But, how
could it just be dropped?I predict we haven't seen the end of the
story even now.And, the standing ovation at the legislature was a
joke.Anywhere else in the country a credible newspaper would have
followed up on a story like this, the politician's career would be over, and the
legislature would not have applauded the confession.
The news paper should have ran the story. The public should have known who they
were electing.I feel sorry for the victim, and for Garn's family. I
even feel sorry for him. Why did he wait to grandstand? He could have gone to
the news media any time, even during the session. He made the confession among
friends. Strange. Although there is remorse from Mr. Garn, he
should experience the consequences of his actions. His actions were child abuse,
and should be punished.Restitution? Was that what all the cash was
about, or hush money. She was wrong in asking for it and taking it. She should
have taken him to court.She still was a victim, of Garn and everyone who has
Hmmm, I'm not sure how I feel about the D-News's involvement in this. I hope it
leads to some journalistic soul-searching though.
As this point, you're about as "fair and balanced" as Fox News is. If a
Democrat had done this, it would have been front-page news back in 2002.Sad, sad, sad.
It was stated that the $150,000 payoff was in 2002. So to claim that because the
incident happened 25 years ago it should be ignored is the mentality of our
great lawmakers. For the representatives of Utah to stand up and applaude this
man is disgusting. People are prosecuted each day for just this type of
incident, yet he gets away with it, with the Republican and Morman church's
blessing. Shame on Utah. The man not only is what society classifies as a sex
offender, but he should be treated as such and he should be on a sex offender
list. One only needs to ask, what if it was your daughter? Would you look at him
in the same way, would it be okay for him to get away with this?
Garn should resign. He is sorry that the mistake is coming back to bite him, it
was a mistake to pay he the hush money now that she is talking, not that he got
naked with a 15yr old girl.The Desert news did not publish because he was
resigning. WHY DID THEY NOT PUBLISH 2YRS LATER WHEN HE RAN AND WON FOR THE
It didn't come out before but it came out now. The election never should have
played a role in when the new came out.
Just so we're clear, the real driving force behind news media (newspapers, news
tv, news or "talk" radio, etc.) is to generate revenue and make a profit. And as
much as possible. I don't have a problem with that at all. I also understand
that what is considered "newsworthy" is a subjective determination by a reporter
or editor. This case is one example. That said, where can the public go for
information? Please just report the facts and tell us the Who, What, Where,
When, and How. Let us make our own conclusions and let us answer, to ourselves,
the Why. We have our own personal prejudices, we realize that. We can be
wrong, and often are. So what? But just because we're wrong, don't think we're
stupid. Please don't tells us what to think, or try to manipulate our minds and
reach conclusions for us. Didn't your parents teach you that?
This is why the D News is viewed by many as biased toward and controlled by the
LDS Church. It really isn't a true newspaper but rather a mouthpiece for it's
owner. Walter Cronkite is rolling over in his grave right now. This is how
newsapapers in Russia and Iraq were run.
If the Deseret News had reported this in 2002, would Garn and the Utah
republican party lashed out at the "liberal media elite" for playing dirty
politics? That would have been good comedy.
Makes me wonder who else Garn paid off? Maybe the D-News editors at the time?Also makes me wonder if there are other women? Where there's smoke
there's fire.Lastly, all of this also makes me wonder how many more
standing ovations he'll receive from his peers in the legislature--they just
don't get it.
The D "News" now has zero credibility for me! How do I know when you are
reporting the complete story as you know it to be. Mistakes are
correctable, but deciding what your readers should and shouldn't know about a
candidate's character is unbelievable.If you think the character of
a person that will be making laws for all us citizens of Utah is not worth
reporting, then there is really a problem intrinsic in the D News organization.
You chose what was in our, the electorate's, best interest? How patronizing. You
thought she was "flaky", yet you convict yourself because you knew it was true
when your wrote in your article that Spangler said "I remember him crying," and
confessing what happened. What was there to check out. Also, he paid someone
off, no matter how he wants to characterize it. You disgrace the purpose of the
first amendment and the role of the press as a check on government. Shame on
you! Without a doubt, you would have reported this had it been a Democrat. Your
article is full of back peddling.
Not commenting on the incident but on this story, it makes me literally sick to
my stomach. Icky. Bernick couldn't have called Spangler for the information? He
was a public figure again and it should have been brought up. Ugly. Gross. Icky
and I am talking about journalism.
I have a feeling if this had been a Democratic politician, it would have run on
the front page.
Since I no longer own a puppy in need of housetraining, from now on I'll get my
"news" from the internet, where the citizens who comment on these boards seems
to have better journalistic ethics than the 'editors'. Deseret dog-trainer
I fully understand the need to exercise extreme caution when deciding to publish
a salacious story concerning a politician a few days before an election.
But Rep Grant was elected and a few years later became one of the most powerful
men in Utah and the editors of the Deseret News still refused to publish this
story despite their knowledge and verification of the facts. Those at the
Deseret News responsible for this appalling lack of editorial judgement should
join Rep. Garn and resign as they are unfit to hold a position of requiring
Big time. At best, this represents several instances of shoddy, lazy reporting
over the past decade in a story of importance to the citizens of Utah. I'm sad this will probably taint my perception of the Deseret News for
who knows how long, but this is warranted.
The Dnews should be embarrased. They sat on a story even after the guy seems to
have confessed in tears in their office.. This isn't journalism,
it's editorialism. It's dishonest. It's shameful. The press is supposed to help
protect the laws and the people, not shield politicians from scrutiny. I hope
that those involved still working for the DNews will have the courage to
apologize and resign.New leadership is needed.
you shouldn't even call yourselves journalists.
Anyone with any degree of intelligence realizes that politics an honest moral
behavior are complete opposites. There is no story there.
It was a bad bad decision, but I can't understand the posters saying it was all
a D News--Republican coverup, if it had been a Democrat, blah blah blah. They
apparently didn't read the article, which clearly stated the Trib passed on
publishing this too.
I don't know what Utah's laws are or were, but in Idaho, if you know a sexual
crime against a minor is committed and you don't report, you can be prosecuted
for failure to report. In Idaho, whoever knew about this and didn't report it
would be prosecuted, the way I understand the law.
No one still working at the DesNews can remember that a sitting member of the
state legislature cried while he told them he'd sat naked in a hot tub with a
minor (and maybe done more than just sit)? Really? Really??And
being suspicious of the allegation, not ONE reporter at the DesNews (or
according to this, the Trib as wel) chose to follow up on the story after the
election? Not one?? Really???I have to wonder if Garn's checkbook
holds more secrets than just one hush money payment. Perhaps we can find an
out-of-state reporter with the courage to follow THAT up. Apparently there
aren't any in Utah.
You know, D-News, Garn steam-rollered the Democratic opposition in north Davis
County. This information would have been mighty useful to them. Did you cover
it up to assure Republican victories? I wouldn't be a bit surprsied, and you
can drop your so-called neutrality; we've been on to you for years with your
extremely Republican stable of syndicated journalists.
Time to cancel my subscription. Real journalists do not cover up stories that
allow the acts of sexual predators to remain concealed.
"You had it verified and you had the woman talking to you." Actually, the fact
that the woman would not talk and give details and corroborate much is one
reason why the Dnews is saying it didn't run the story. Sounds to me like this
so-called expert thinks she knows more than she does.Myself, I don't care
about something that happened 20 years ago.
Here is another shameful example of how corrupt the Republican Party is. First, we had Curt Bramble and Pizza-gate and Bramble-gate, then Sheldon
Killpack and Killpack-gate, and now we have Garn-gate and this is just the
leadership of the Utah Republican Party. We don't even need to get into the
details of these and the many other incidents where the Republican leadership
has been involved in such shannigans such as Mark Walker and Republican leaders
trying to bribe Ellis to not run and Mark Shurtleff and Gary Herbert (whose son
worked with Mark Walker) coming to his defense. Who wants to bet that Mark
Walker got Gary's son a job and that he helped cover up what had happened
between Mark Walker and Ellis?It is either time for Democrats to be
elected on the state level or for Republican voters to attend their Caucuses and
take the Republican Party back from the right-wing crazies and their corrupt
leaders so that we can have decent representation yet I doubt they will do
it.There is a reason so many Republicans in Utah are jumping ship to
the Utah Democrats.
As a teacher in California where we we were required by law to report suspected
sexual abuse, we were made aware that abusers often seek out vulnerable,
impressionable and troubled young people. Not only because they would be easier
victims but also because they would be less likely to be believed if they spoke
out. I wonder if the journalists fell into this trap?
I cannot believe what I just read. Somebody at the Deseret News claimed that
this allegation was not verified after Garn admitted before the election that it
was true? Not only was it verified, it was undisputed. It is one thing to make
a mistake, but to claim it was not a mistake makes your judgment questionable.
When just prior to the election a candidate admits to sexual, in my opinion
criminal, activity (enticing an underage girl to take her clothes off for your
prurient interests) that story is newsworthy. The voters have a right to know
if something in the candidate's past brings their judgment or ethics into
question. Apparently the Deseret News subscribes to the Clinton standard; if
people like you it does not matter what illegal activity you engage in
(Clinton's crime was perjury). I would have hoped for more from the Deseret
News. In my past I represented clients who sued the Catholic church for
covering up childhood sexual abuse. I am sad to learn that the Deseret News
takes that kind of abuse as lightly as the Catholic church did. My clients who
had been abused were devastated emotionally for many years.
The right thing to do? (shaking my head) The Man is a sex offender period.....
As for the other legislators applauding him... I'm truly embarrassed by this
State I call home.....
Although I think this should have been reported earlier, election or not. The
news media has a responsibilty to the public at large to make these kinds of
things known. Police have made great strides to entrap people for even haveing
the thought of encounters with underage minors. On that point, I
think the law on this should be changed to not call minors who voluntary engage
in these acts as innocents. They are just as guilty of promoting underage sex as
an adult is, it's very common in all the the schools among peers. Parents teach
them its okay to have sex if your not married.This girl and her
parents willingly accepted the money and signed a non-disclosure agreement which
is also illegal because of her age at the time. A 15 year old who suddenly has
$150,000 must have gotten the parents attention. The parents must have looked at
this as some restitution that they or the girl would never have gotten by
reporting it.It looks like there has been many crimes involving this
single incident. Maybe the law is going too far punishing adults and not
children who have become adults.
Utah is chock full of hypocrites and liars.
I'm very troubled that the D-News didn't further investigate this story, even if
it was on the eve of the primary election. For Garn to come and actually
confess all to D-News editors should have been evidence enough to run the story
to let readers and voters decide. People have a right to know if
their government leaders are crooks or child molesters. It was the duty of the
D-News to report that, even if he was a good-standing member of the church and a
Hall should step down or be fired. It's as simple as that.
Wow, a lot of vitriol from people with religious and political axes to grind. Do
your think they're venting on the Trib website as well? It seems that these
people either don't read the entire story, or they just choose to pick out the
things they want.And then all the innuendos! Ooh, he must have done
this, or he probably did that, with not an ounce or shred of evidence of any
crime, merely wanton misjudgement. If you want to be suspicious, ask yourself
about the woman's motives. Is she pouting because she couldn't squeeze any more
money out of him. Are the police going to get involved? Is there really a crime
here?It's old news, folks. Really old news. He erred and has paid
dearly with his guilt and humiliation for a long time. The Deseret News may or
may not have erred in their withholding the story, but that's a chance they take
with every story. They had nothing to gain either way. Live and learn.The DNews is still a very fine newspaper with honest people, good reporting,
solid writing, and great photography.
Both major newspapers knew of this disgusting act, and it's long term
relationship but BOTH chose to keep quiet? Now if that doesn't give you an
inside into why Utah is the reddest state in the union nothing will! How much
money and how many other stories are out there left unreported? This is just
what I have expected all of my life here and I'm 70 years old. What chance would
any other party have here, and especially an independent party? Zero!This isn't
just wrong it's a form of communism.
This is why I am more and more disillusioned with the Republican party. It seems
to be more and more about hypocrisy.
That's the last straw, I'm tired of being surrounded by immoral, two-faced
scum...in the government, the media, and the . I'm going back to China where at
least everyone knows the government controls the media and I can see through the
If it had been a Democrat involved, they would have reported it. Guaranteed.
I'll bet Kevin Garn at 28 never dreamed that someday his mistake would be front
page news. Readers think they have a right to know every juicy
detail about elected officals. Are they willing to expose their own lives to
the same level of invasion of privacy? People in glass houses
shouldn't throw stones.
To: Did D News commit Crime? | 12:13 a.m.,That's great about Idaho,
but who cares? Nobody pays Idaho any heed and there is a very good reason for
Can't complain about the liberal press and Obama. You are just as guilty.
Apparently this was a "widely-known secret." How many of them knew?They applauded Garn when he admitted in public that he had committed an
indiscretion with a 15 year old girl!
So what publication can we read to find the truth?
The DN blew it. By your own admisision. What blows my mind is that you continue
to defend what is indefensible. I can't believe it. The story was there, but
you refused to print it.I am speechless, really. Talk about being
in bed with the gop. yee gads. Yes, you have lost my faith.Not
because of X, but because your people continue to cover up, make excuses, etc.
No mea culpa, eh.Back to the Trib for me.
I knew it before I even read this article. I said to my husband, "So she went
to the news media and yet it wasn't reported. You can bet it was the Deseret
News she went to." And then I read this and the previous article with they
"hysterical" explanation as to why the story was not reported by the Deseret
News. I can assure you, if a non-Mormon had been exposed in such a manner, the
story would have made headlines. Let's just call the Deseret News what it is --
"The Mormon Church Owned and Controlled Newspaper." And God bless "Big Love",
for showing the craziness of this Mormon mentality." It would be a great scene
to show Bill Paxton, newly elected congressmen, admitting to an affair with a 15
year old, paying her off to keep silent, killing the story in the Church
newspaper, and yet receiving a standing ovation from his peers and slaps on the
back. Ayyy. So glad I escaped that false world.
Who'dathunkit? Journalistic skulduggery in Zion.I couldn't help compare
it to the recent scandal in Chicago over the Lt. Gov. candidate Scott Lee
CohenIt turns out that after Cohen won the primary all sorts of past
criminal activity came to light about him. And he stepped down.There are
some differences here:1) The press reported his transgressions months
before, but no one paid any attention.2) Cohen made no effort to hide his
past, answering reporters' questions fully.3) It was only a primary
election under party control.4) Cohen was never allowed to serve.So, congrats. You've out-sleezed Chicago.And that goes for the
Trib as well since they were also told the story."A man hears what
he wants to hear, and disregards the rest."
What changes are being made at your newspaper? I think you need to let the
public know what you will do the next time something like this happens. You as
a reporting paper have a responsibility to the community to report these gross
behavior action of OUR elected officials. I understand that everyone is not
perfect, we all have skeletons, but when people are making decisions that
change laws of out state, they need to be exposed for who they really are. You
let the community down.
So, let me get this straight...all anyone (especially a man in power) needs to
do -when having a crime exposed to the public by the Des News and SL Trib- is go
into your offices and cry?! And if a woman comes to you trying to help shed some
light on the truth...you call her "flaky". I think you owe her a big sincere
apology and then one for the community of women you sent this bad message to.
The paper suppresses a story about a political candidate, waiting to see the
outcome of the election? Are you kidding me? Protect the boys in power, not
the interests of the voters. Don't ever editorialize again about character in
public officials as being important to know.
The News attempts to pass this off as "...hot-tubbing in the nude with a
15-year-old..." but if you dig a bit deeper it gets a whole lot more troubling.
Garn knew this person years earlier in his church role, that makes her much
younger, 12 or 13, when he first took notice of her. Then, she was an "employee"
at 15, the time of the incident. But when was she "hired" - 13, 14? And what
kind of real job can a 14 or 15 year old do? Not much. Seems Garn had his hot
tub encounters planned out long in advance. And in my opinion, he was (and is) a
So what else is the D-News covering up now? How can we ever trust them.
Every negative thing I read about Utah blames the Mormon Church. Is the Salt
Lake Tribune a church run, or republican newspaper? I gather from the comments
that the Tribune didn't publish it either. With some experience in journalism, I
wouldn't have printed a unsubstantiated article a few days before the election.
I would have investigated the disclosure to see if it were true, however. Both
newspapers failed their public responsibilities. In Ohio, we have both
Republican and Democrat bias newspapers that would have probably done the same
thing. And, newspapers that favor certain religious groups. It's the owner's
and editor's choice. The public should know of a newspaper's favoritism. The public should demand Garn to account for this act. And those who
comment, please spell Mormon correctly.
How could the story have been moot when nobody that was lined up to vote for
this snake new the facts?This is what happens when a newspaper
confuses its roll with a Bishop's roll. You guys are to report the
news, and the facts you can verify (including doing the leg work to verify
background and circumstances regarding a serious claim by a woman.)It is the Bishop's roll to take confidential confessions and decide when a
past act is moot - it isn't a newspaper's, and I am sickened by your Editor's
decisions in the matter.
because no one's ever done that in their life, right? rep. garn? did any of you
calling for editors' resignations or reprimands for reporters even read the
story? the woman said she was pitching this story to the tribune, as well. so
they knew. you don't think long-time tv reporters like vanocur over at 4 and
decker over at 5 or any of ksl's editors didn't know? or other local media, the
standard, kued, fox, city weekly? give me a break. yes, deseret was dumb not to
follow the story and report. and made a mistake when the editors made their
decision. but it wasn't like the mormon paper was the only one in town who knew.
everyone else is keeping quiet because they don't want the (rightfully so)
backlash associated. think about that.
Of course you care. Otherwise you wouldn't have commented. And i bet you eat
potato chips, too.
Plain and simple: Take away the salacious details of this story and Senate
Majority Leader Garn has admitted he will circumvent the law for $150,000. Who
else will he pay off? How much will it cost to buy his vote? Will he sell
political favors ala ABSCAM? Would he hide $90,000 in his freezer like William
Jefferson? It's impossible to say, but with this "checkbook mentality" he cannot
be trusted to represent Utah.
@Monsieur le profYou make a good point that there is no 'evidence'
that contact occured. She says it did, he says it didn't. Ask yourself, who
gets a girl naked behind closed doors and doesn't touch? As to a
crime, if he got her clothes off and found that sexually gratifying, sex abuse
of a child occured (UTCode 76-5-401.1) The code doesn't require contact. As for her motives, it appears that she is clearly still traumatized,
her life is falling apart (divorce, excommunication, depression) and she's
lashing out at the person she blames. Doesn't make her actions honorable, but
at least understandable. She is the victim here, not him.
This situation proves the difference between Salt Lake Media and National Media.
The times, the post...the would have ran that story. No QUESTION about it. At
a time when people question the media anyway readers will forever question both
the Des News and the SL Trib and think what are the hiding and for whom?
Bernick dropped the ball and I guarantee he is regretting not running that story
Fox News is constantly talking about how people no longer report, they have
sides and agendas. They talk about how there is a difference between a reporter
and a commentator. They say, a reporter needs to report and not let its
personal feelings show, a commentator does not have those boundaries, they are
not reporters. So there are times of the day when you can watch Fox News and it
is news, and there a specific programs where they share their opinions. Deseret
News by not reporting showed a side, and sadly it was a side of indecency, how
would they even dare to condone such actions? DN you really made a big mistake
on this one. Will I stop reading, no, but will I always wonder what other
things you are keeping back, yes.
@American Citizen.Are you saying that criminal actions by a
politician shouldn't be scrutized by the public?People in glass
houses? Politicians knowingly submit themselves to scrutiny. It goes with the
job. Garn should resign, and then the legal process should take over. I agree that hypocrisy is wrong, and we all make mistakes that we
wouldn't want public, but exploiting a minor overwhom you hold a position of
authority (employer) while you are married isn't your run-of-the-mill mistake.
He knew this was in his closet, and chose to run. He knew the risk, and it came
back to bite him. Hopefully all involved can put their lives back together, but
I want him putting his life back together after his resignation and apology to
the good people of Utah.
I can't believe this... I used to hold the D. News to a high standard, but your
small town mentality and your political bias is obvious. To have had the man in
your office, in tears, and to have withheld the story? You have to be joking!
The integrity of your entire organization is in doubt due to your refusal to
report the story... not to mention the signals you send to other pedophiles that
their misdeeds are not worthing of exposure in the Deseret News. You are a
news organization and that was news and remains news... you are supposed to be
our watchdogs but you failed us, the citizens of Utah.... I'm disgusted with
this and will cancel my subscription to D. News immediately.
One question. After Garn lost the first election, what was to prevent the
Deseret News from publishing the story when they then had time to pursue the
facts?The excuse that it was an old story and not relevant doesn't cut it.
Whether he was a public official or not, there was a possible crime against a
minor there and by someone prominent. Could have saved all of the grief that so
many are going through now. We don't expect our elected leaders to be perfect
but if we don't have honesty we don't have trust. Would have been nice for the
electorate to know who they were voting for, or prevented him from running the
I'm not shocked that the D news knew about this and didn't report it. I'm
shocked that they are now admitting that they knew and didn't report it. That a
standing ovation was given to his creep is embarassing to the whole state of
never again will i read this paper. She was 15 years old!!! If that was my
fifteen year little girl Id go balistic on all who new about this.
Are you kidding me????? What is it with the Trib and the saintly Deseret News?
You knew about it and didn't report it??? Wow, this is incredible. I
don't get it. What is it with religion (the Deseret News is the voice of
Mormonism, right?) and their sticking up for their people and trouncing on those
with different viewpoints? This is so disturbing. I really am surprised,
well maybe I am not.
What was creepy AND what will "hit" the national and worldwide news, is the
applause and cheering of the Utah Legislators following Garn's statement.The world already thinks Utah is a strange place.John
Stewart, Steven Colbert, SNL, both the liberal AND the conservative media along
with the rest of the world are going to eat this up!
Garn just resigned, and so should EVERY Deseret News editor and reporter who was
involved in this cover up.
Garn is our local version of Roman Polanski. The Desert News failed in its duty
and made the Church look foolish and hypocritical.
The SL TRIB was also notified and declined to run the story. Also most of you
outraged posters saying 'you won't read the desnews anymore, have never
subscribed to the paper before anyway.
oh the religious in the valley have a prophecy that the Salt Lake Valley will be
one of the most wicked in the last days,,,i guess it starts with the
I guess the Deseret News learned quite well from the Pope as told on MSNBC.
Keep it secret about pedophiles,don't let others know of these sickos. Or did
the Pope learn from them how effective this secret society operates. Talk about
the Gadianton Robbers.
This isn't the first time our local media has suppressed and failed to report
scandalous conduct by an elected official. Recently, another elected official
resigned his seat after being caught in the an illicit act with a prostitute.
By resigning, it was no longer a "story". It will be interesting to see if this
story resurfaces if this person ever runs for office. Who knows how many other
situations are not being reported?
Vote Republican---it's the party of family values. I've now had my good
morning, loud as I can muster, belly laugh. Are the sheeple getting restless?
They should be.
"It was last-minute – was it coming from the other camp? There wasn't time
to verify it," he said. "Should that be the thing on people's minds as they go
to the election booth? It's a balancing act that we play every day."But in this case, where was the balancing act? He came in, CONFESSED, and
cried!! At the very minimum, you, Deseret News, had an obligation to expose
this wolf in sheep's clothing when he ran AGAIN, let alone the first time!! I'm
also appalled by the blatant sexism in immediately caving in to his crocodile
tears while assuming she was "flaky." Is she weird and manipulative? No doubt.
But had it occurred to you that her downward spiral perhaps had its beginnings
with Kevin Garn's disgusting and manipulative behavior?? If this happened
today, he would be labeled a pedophile and listed on the sex offenders
registry.I'm ashamed of you, Deseret News.
The Deseret News has done this a lot in other ways, too. I realize that
sporting events are not nearly as serious as something like this Garn case. But
I've found that if I write pro-Ute, anti-BYU statements, often my comments won't
get published. Yet, others can write similar comments, only theirs are pro-BYU,
anti-Ute, and they always get published, including the blatantly offensive
ones.We all know that the Deseret News is owned, or at least,
affiliated with the LDS Church. But you need to be fair in your news reporting.
This also extends to comments that readers write in to your online articles.
It was a cover-up by the DNews...the question is why and who pulled strings. An
investigation is warranted. The pursuit of the John Edwards story about his
"mistressing" around while running for the Democratic nomination for President
is an example why the National Enquirer--unbelievably--is gaining stature while
other papers--including this one--engage in censorship (or was it partisanship?)
and loose credibility.
Yes, the Deseret News is indeed taking quite a few lumps, on these comment
boards, that is!!!!
Yes, the Deseret News was at fault. Maybe the intentions at the time were
"noble," but it makes the newspaper come across as definitely bias toward the
"majority party" and hurts your credibility.It was a mistake on your part.
What am I missing here? At 15 one who is mentally stable knows right from wrong.
I would ask (if she was my daughter) why this crime wasn't reported for 25
years. Starting to sound more and more like an opportunitst as more information
comes to light. No one need think I hold Mr Garn in any regard or not guilty of
wrong doing here but there has been more than one crime, selfish act and a
bushel full of secrets in this event.
Shouldn't someone investigate the Deseret News as to whether they are complicit
in covering up a possible criminal case?At best this is journalistic
malfeasance. The editor should be hauled into the cop shop for
questioning in regard to what he knew and just when he knew it.There
is wrong and right...and journalistic integrity is about clearing up that fine
line which separates the two and becomes ever so blurry in the throes of the
human dynamic..What the Deseret News had done - drop the story. Is
unacceptable by any measure and the editor needs to understand that...period
Come on folks! I'm saddened that something that old would still be news. The
News did the right thing and didn't play into the hands of an extortionist. How
many times have unidentified parties claimed wrong-doing by a candidate at such
a late date that the candidate has no time (or money in most cases) to reserve
an ad which gets out the truth. News is news, not the entertainment most of the
above would have us believe is appropriate today. Ask yourself this question,
are you better informed today about national and geopolitical events than you
were before this story ran. I salute Jerry Spangler for being a newsman that
knew the difference between being informed and being entertained. BTW, this has
nothing to do with party affiliations.
I'm an active Mormon which is your target demographic. The Trib infuriates me
on a regular basis. I don't buy newspapers, and the primary justification for
your existence is to do a public good by reporting exactly this type of story.
You failed, and your excuses are worthless. At least you could apologize.
Doesn't stop you from becoming irrelevant, and if it wasn't for the church
propping you up, you would have been bankrupt already. You failed to report an
important story, and for that you will suffer the punishment of irrelevance.
You've broken the public trust, which is the only thing an organization like
yours can survive on. Hopefully the age of the Internet and blogosphere will do
a better job than you did. Good riddance.
The stuffed shirts like Garn, support one another. They hug and cry and give
each other a slap on the back from their fellow stuffed shirts, and then go back
to do the same old garbage all over again.
So, let me understand the editor/reporter view; Young woman tells reporter of
sexual misconduct by potential state legislator, said candidate admits story to
editor (crying). Now says, couldn't run story cause woman was "flakey.""Flakey" & criminal would be a more accurate description for the editors
decision to not run story. If it had been my 15 yr old daughter who had told
you this story and you buried it, I would have found you and...
The Deseret Morning News broke the law by not reporting the sexual encounter
that was reported to them by the perp. Take the punishment for breaking the law
and then start reporting the news accurately and honestly
Hypocrites. He lied to fine, well socially connected friends (who may share
similar guilt?). So, what is new?
I'm disappointed in the fact that you fail to understand or appreciate the
gravity of the extent to which this story was covered up by both Former State
Sen. Garn as well as the Deseret News.This is serious as it strikes
at the core of the public trust, this is not entertainment, son.
Sean Hannity likes to say "journalism is dead". That's an outrageous thing to
say, especially when Hannity can barely refrain from bouncing off his seat when
the New York Times dug up all the Gov. Patterson allegations.However, in Utah journalism must be dead. Deseret News is in bed with the LDS
church and they have been for generations.
Funny how republicans and their conservative talk show cronies are always
berating so called "mainstream media" as being protective of democrats and their
agenda.How's that for hypocracy!
It is a sorry state when one act of initial serious indiscretion perpertrates so
many more and ignites all manner of speculation,opinion and bias. Open
disclosure and honesty always does prevail and shape what we all have to react
to and deal with. It might be wise to consider that we each have to be
accountable for our decisions including our opinions and accept that
'leadership', governmental or otherwise, is generally no less human or fallible
than ourselves. Be kind, tolerant, understanding but foremost personally
forthright,responsible and accountable. Only then can we expect and hold others
to that same standard.Politics and political leadership is only as strong,
as the saying goes, as it weakest link; let's ensure it isn't you or I.
Your editor needs to be sacked!
You know what? Could it be that 28yo Garn was tempted, got in the hot tub with
her, and then realized he was making a HUGE mistake? Got out and that was that.
There apparently was no sexual contact from his comments. This isn't
a jail-able offense. Inappropriate? Absolutely, but not jail-able. He should step down, but the DN did the right thing by not running a story
where the seriousness of what happened has neither been confessed to nor
admitted to this day. As far as we know, it ended there.
Unbeleivable! Clothed Mormon Muffins gets you excommunicated and your BYU degree
taken away while the actions of Garn and those involved in the cover up at the
D-news, which do much greater harm to Mormonism with their actions get what?
Nothing that's what.
Time to swtich over to the CENSORED CENSORED Tribune!
"Hall, who is still managing editor, said he does not dispute Spangler's version
of what happened. While he can't remember it, he also says he thinks the right
call was made."
It is clear that all the appropriate resignations are not restricted to
politicians. Step up, Hall, Bernick, and Hughes. You have betrayed us all.
I think JAILABLE! She was a minor! It is at least indecent exposure and don't
pull the HE WAS TEMPTED lame card! He was the adult!!!! How many arrests are
needed before people realize the adult will and should be charged! A real adult walks away from "temptation." He wasn't tempted. He was grooming
her for abuse! Signed,A mom who is furious with all the
baloney about it being the underaged girl's fault!
but I have to side with the DesNews totally on this one. They would be reporting
"gossip." If there had been a police report filed, if there had been a complaint
issued then it would have substantiated the story. This girl (now woman...who
her own ex-husband has called crazy) should have been (and should be) talking to
the police not the paper. In a crime like this (sexual abuse of minors) there is
no statute of limitations...why hasn't the criminal court acted? For the same
reason the paper didn't!
Jackson, how do you rationalize the $150,000 dollar payoff? Nothing happened but
he realized it was a huge mistake so he quietly paid her $150,000 dollars?
Funny, funny stuff.
They did not run it before the election so people would not vote thinking about
that? Meaning if he would've won they would've then?
As an out-of-stater, it is really interesting to read the comments. Most of you
commenting justify your own political bias or religious bigotry by castigating
the Mormon religion and Republican party because one guy chooses to go against
the philosophies to which he has affiliated himself. Out of compassion for the
man (albeit ill-advised) DNews made the mistake of not running the story in '02.
Out of sympathy and respect for the man, his family, and his legislative
accomplishments, Garn's colleagues applauded the courage to confess and do the
right thing by resigning. You know darn well that neither the Mormon Church nor
the GOP condone his past indiscretions. So quit the childish
generalizations--'since this man was bad, the whole Mormon church is bad' and
'because this man is a hypocrite, all conservatives or Republicans are
hypocrites.' The hatred in this state is very palpable.
Hey, I'm sorry you don't get it. He made a contract to try to keep it quiet.
That to me is a pretty big admission of guilt. Who would pay money if there was
nothing to hide? The DNews let it all go. Why?
There is a reason we have freedom of the press- they are to be fre to assist us
the voting public know what is going on since we may not have the time or
resources to look around as much as we might like- hence the designation the
designation fourth branch of government- they should be independent and capable
of providing the people with info they otherwise could not get- thanks DN for
helping democracy by covering up and deciding for yourself what we should hear-
democracy is better for your efforts- as for me you have lost my trust and I
will look elsewhere and hope others wiull do the same- a little financial loss
may help you rethink your role as a constitutional player in this thing we call
None of your criteria for this issue not being 'gossip' have been met and yet
you are posting on a story in the D-news. The irony...oh the irony.
Disagree entirely mr. feeding frenzy. It is not an isolated incidence, it is
systemic misinformation by those in power. It is a standing ovation by your
government for admitting that you have conducted yourself in a sexual manner
that lands others in jail and on a list. Count yourself lucky that you are an
When I ran prison groups I told the inmates that often it's not the crime its
the status of the person who committed it. That certainly seems to be the case
here. Many individuals who committed similar acts 17 years previous are still on
sex offender registries because we believe we have a current need to know what
the people living next door have done. Apparently we have no such need to know
what our elected representatives have done. I'm sorry, but this smells of a
"good old boys" cover up and brings any confidence in elected officials or the
fourth estates is at an all time low at this point. I would also
add, even if you consider the source to be "flaky" how much credibility do you
need when the perpetrator confesses? Finally, I feel there is
something very wrong when the perpetrator of a sex crime (which, from the
descriptions this clearly was) is given a standing ovation for confessing just
ahead of being "outed" while the victim is vilified. Make no mistake, no matter
how you feel about someone as an adult, they were a victim at age 15.
Once Garn confessed to the reporter & editors of the DesNews in 2002, they had a
legal obligation to report what happened. If you have knowledge of sexual
exploitation of a minor - including indecent exposure - and you withhold that
information, YOU have committed a crime. Also, the acknowledged part of the
story tells us that Garn, in addition to taking her into a no-tell commercial
hot-tub rental establishment (pay for a private room by the hour!), he also
bought her alcohol. Thanks to Garn and the Republican majority, that in itself
is darn near a capital offense in Utah.He took a minor, who trusted
him because of TWO levels of authority (as her religious mentor and as her boss
at work), liquored her up and got her naked. And I'm supposed to believe that
then they just sat and talked? Really?
Garn kept calling back to see if it would come up and you never thought this
odd? You didn't see it as a possible crime? If he was simply hot-tubbing with a
consentual adult, would he need to be worried about a news story? AS
A PARENT, I DESPISE YOUR SILENCE, DESERET NEWS!
PROSECUTE HIM FOR SEX ABUSE OF A MINOR. NOW.
You have a US Congressional candidate in your office crying and you don't
remember it? I don't buy it.It's more likely these Desnews reporters
and editors were hoping Garn would win and then they'd blow him out of the water
and give the election to the Democrat and they would sell a bunch of
newspapers.If I recall Dan Jones did a poll for the Desnews just
days before the 2002 Primary election showing it a close race between Bishop and
Garn, 39 to 35 and within the margin of error.Bernick should resign.
You cannot use the argument that it was too close to the election to report. If
it had been anything newsworthy, even the night of printing, you would have
stopped the presses and reported in order to scoop other news organizations.Your readers are not stupid. Please do not treat us as though we are.
Admit your mistake and move on.
The Deseret News is owned by the LDS Church so, why wouldn't the Deseret News
reflect LDS Church values? Let's read a bout Chicago politics or Mitt waffling.
There is more information to this whole story that other parties have withheld
for good reasons including the actions/behaviors of Ms Maher. I have
now read the whole set of comments from each article from both newspapers. The
articles are reasonable and cover the surface stuff. Yes, it is sad. The average
commenter...is clueless. But knowing what has happened between these two parties
is paramount in understanding these more recent events. There are clues in the
articles but the news reporters are not likely to press any further...and that's
probably okay.I'm much more afraid of what is happening on the
national level with the complacency of the news media. Most of the comments here
are connected to the cultural issues and biases of SLC and Utah and do little to
resolve any damage on the large scale.
What church values are you talking about, Brigham Young's?
What a sad commentary on our society...particularly from a religious
society...when is it EVER o.k. to be sexual with a 15 year old? No matter how
much time has gone by since then, is it o.k. to pretend it didn't matter?
There is at least one independent newspaper in Utah that wouldn't have sat on
the Garn story like the D-News, the Standard-Examiner in Ogden
The story is more complexed than it might seem at first. To keep it in
perspective we have to remember the full context of the time. On June 5th, 2002
Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped. This was the most gripping story in Utah at the
time. The race for the 1st Congressional District Republican nomination
was overshadowed. beyound this it was widely believed that the Suprme Court
would rule in favor of Utah getting a fourth congressional district. Many felt
that the June primaries would be irrelevant. On Wednesday, June 19th,
2002 Spangler ran his laudatory article on Garn, telling of his growing up with
divorced parents, his beganings as a high school busnessman, how in high school
"he didn't chase girls much", his mission in Uruguay and Argentina, his saying
he "filed" in 1990 and his brother-in-law at first thinking he meant filed for a
divorce, and his election to the state legislature that year and later rise. That was six days before the election. The election was the coming
Tuesday. On a related note I do not believe Kevin Garn has ever served as
an LDS stake president.
One of the odder claims is that Garn comes from a "politically well connected
family". Just because there are other Garns does not mean they are his
close relatives. He is not a son of Jake Garn, and I would not be surprised if
their last common ancestor died in the 19th century if not earlier.
Garn's parents divorced when he was eight, and his family stuggled to survive on
his mother's meagre income. This really makes us wonder why he did such stupid
things later after he married. Still, my searches so far have revealed
very little about Garn's private life. One of the things that I would say about
Utah papers is on the whole they tell us less of the religion of candidates than
do papers in other places.
Albeit belatedly, it is examplary that the Paper finally laid out all the
facts--the good, the bad, the ugly. The article names people responsible for
the decisions; it seems they didn't hold anything back in the article. The
headline is self-depricating if not incriminating. Why don't we see anything
like that from the other Salt Lake paper Ms. Maher said she sent her story to?
If they didn't receive the story, as the victim alleges, then at least they
should say so. If they did, then they should fes up as well!
Hello! J.P.Lambert, "PLEASE" Go to bed you need your rest big boy. Deseret News
is going to jail on this one..lol!
Let me get this straight. Deseret News editors say they decided not to print
Garn's CONFESSION in 2002 because his accuser was flaky?As a
newspaper reporter and editor for the past 15 years, I'm really amazed that
they'd offer that defense with a straight face...
Deseret News,We have Mitt making strong sensible statements, but its
Garn's acts that are getting nationwide headlines--Mormon Republican tells of
naked hottubbing with underaged girl and fellow legislature applaud. Why
did you not report this when you were contacted by the woman or at least when
Garn called each election and said, "Is there any talk about me?" This could come back to bite Mormon Republicans big time!
Anyone still defending the choice should be terminated. Those who made the poor
decision to not run the story should also be terminated.
WHY! WHY! WHY! ME :-O
Hey...have you guys noticed that this story and its corresponding comment board
is no longer apart of the "top story" headlines when first arriving to the
Deseret News web page?Interesting that this story has over 136
comments, yet it isn't listed as one of the top stories...
Fully knowing about this incident — including Garn’s admission
— and choosing not to report it, puts the DesNews in a camp I won’t
support in any form. The young lady was “flaky?” The incident was
“no longer news?” These are attitudes that perpetuate the secrecy of
sex abuse. You made a call and still think it was the right one? My
decision will be to not read the DesNews again.
Let's think this thing through...If Bishop wins the primary the
story is mute. If Garn wins, the story comes out and the Democrat wins.Better to come out with the story in the primary and still allow the
voters to make the choice.When Garn lost the DN should have told
Garn to keep out of politics or they could be compelled to come out with the
story.They victim could have gone to Garn's political opponent and
bypassed the media altogether.
Those who defend the choice to suppress the story or never reported it need to
Do you want to just "take lumps" or thoroughly investigating the chain that kept
the story quiet?
If you decide on action rather than to just sit back and let the news come to
you, you could run an article what acts consitute charges in sex related crimes.
Some definitions could enlighten the public.
Utahns seem to need to be educated about reporting abuse. How about an article
Deseret News,You didn't report this when it was one person, but in your
article, "Utah Rep. Kevin Garn Resigns," you name a second possible Garn victim.
However, it doesn't seem you have a confirmed source, yet. Now it seems a double
standard. The first reports and a $150,000 payout wasn't news, but a second name
will now make the pages?
I'd like a follow up article with some basics on what possible charges could
come to bear that may be "hard to prove." Is the money in some way extortion or
was it a bribe and witness tampering? If it was tampering, who could be charged?
Takes lumps sounds like eating poorly made food. How about "Ethics Experts on D
News Garn Non-Report"
Why would Bernick put it off on the victim when the perpetrator can't let it go?
Garn kept calling? Whose stability should he have questioned?
I appreciate your information and perspective. Spangler ran an article of
adulation on Garn and all of this became a moot point. Interesting.
Bernick's Bias I disagree with the idea that they would have printed it, even if
Garn would have won the primary. I think they kept it quiet to ensure a
Republican in the US House. Democrats frighten Utahns. Any report about a
Republican with an underage girl might skew an election.
He "confessed" and the Dnews didn't think it news worthy?? How many people did
he pay money to???
You mean how many people at the Dereset News did he pay money to, right?
I go with the DNews might have received political favors from Garn. Money to
them would have been too obvious.
JAILBAIT!She was a minor under 18)He opens the Door of
his own past
Garn is very good with words. Perhaps that is why you didn't report it before.
Maybe you were sold by his wording the way the legistlature was.
Utah resembles an oligarchy, where political, religious and economic power is
concentrated in a group that protects itself. Deseret News and the other major
paper are also part of this oligarchy.Garn was a leader of the
"moral party" in Utah, and also a leader in the LDS Church. Garn went out of
his way to denounce gays and others for moral lapses. All the while, Garn was
involved in an extortion (illegal for both parties) based on sexual harassment
of a minor employee who is also his student in Sunday School. In
Utah it's not about hate, it's about holier-than-thou hypocrisy that breeds
You can run but you cannot hide.
Hate/contempt--same thing. No one (Mormon or non-Mormon) denies Garn is a
hypocrite. No one denies DNews made a big mistake. But to make the connection
like i posted earlier that "because Garn is a hypocrite, then all Mormons are
hypocrites," is just ridiculous. The LDS Church does not condone his actions
and they never will.Maybe the Church's "morality" has some influence in
Utah politics, but not practicing what you preach is an INDIVIDUAL problem not
an indictment on the whole church or its teachings. You may be frustrated by
being among the political minority, but that predicament is not peculiar to
Having been a DNEWS reader for 30 years I am so disappointed in finding out
that "they" feel "they" need to protect the reader before they go into the
voting booth. I don't even live in Garn's district, but I DON'T NEED ANYONE
THINKING I CAN'T handle the facts. That's the newspapers role to tell us Who,
What, When, Where and How! They don't need to do anything else. The editors
sudden "forgetfulness" as to the incident is troubling also. Not sure how much
longer I can afford to support a newspaper who feels I'm so unintelligent I
can't take the news and figure out then what to do.
I agree, seems people need to start being a bit more honest around these old
neck of the woods. Too much lying, deceit and sneaky stuff being swept under a
very dirty carpet.
I wonder if Cheryl was the only one who got paid off? Talk about cover-up
journalism, here's a great example. This type of selective reporting is not
what journalism is about and is a huge disservice to the people of Utah.
Welcome to Utah, where the LDS elite protect each other by any means necessary.
I always knew that reporters and politicians scratch each others backs, and that
it goes with the job. But I never imagined that a respectable newspaper would
sit on a politician's confession of infidelity, indecency and submitting to
extortion. All along the Des News knew that the majority leader in
the Utah house was at best a hypocrite, and at worse a party to extortion and
child abuse. Why on earth would hush up such serious allegations that were
confessed by Garn to your editors?
I want to point out that in the state of Utah; we have a reporting law, that is
covered under House Bill 265. In addition to protecting minors from abuse this
law also legally requires the reporting of known incidents of child abuse. In
addition, Title 62A, Chapter 4a, Section 411 states that “any person,
official, or institution required to report a case of suspected abuse,…
who willfully fails to do so is guilty of a class B misdemeanor.” I
understand that the greater "sin" is with Mr. Garn here, but, in this instance,
I am wondering if the Deseret News, which obviously learned of this act of child
sexual abuse some years ago, is not also legally culpable, under our state laws,
for failure to take action by reporting Mr. Garn to appropriate authorities. I
am very saddened to think that a newspaper that I have trusted and read for 30+
years could be complicit in hiding the actions of an admitted child abuser,
choosing it seems political expediency over a much greater moral right as well
as the legal rights of the victim.
I was a professional journalist for 30+ years. For them to defend their decision
as the "right choice then... and now" is inexcusable. Obviously, it was a
mistake not to do the story then. And the way they're handling it right now is
not much better.
I am outraged! Where is the accountability? Let us hold out elected officials
and news media to the same standard that we are held to. Enough of this
Hypocrisy for crying out loud! WE NEED TO ACT SWIFTLY on this! We demand
And now they've published a story attacking Maher's credibility, extensively
quoting her ex husband. They're attacking the victim in order to justify
covering this up in 2002. I agree we need to demand accountability from the
So let's see if I get this right. First they don't publish the story because
they don't want to influence the election. Then after the guy loses election
they don't publish the story because it doesn't matter. If that isn't a mental
and ethical short-circuit, I don't know what is, except maybe the Utah
legislature giving a standing ovation to a man who as a married, 30 year old
adult went nude hot-tubbing with a disturbed 15 year old daughter of his
business partner, and oh, yeah, he had been her Sunday School teacher at church,
too. Yep, clap away. And once again the Deseret News proves it is scared of
the public knowing the facts. Well, at least it did not take $150,000 to keep
the "free" press at Des-News quiet.
Everyone know there are lots of secrets..it's only a matter of time until they
are all divulged.
Garn comes in crying crocodile tears about being in a hot tub nude with a 15
year-old and 17 years later they can't remember it? What else have they
conveniently forgot?Shame on the Desecrated News!