Just when you think the signs of the times couldn't be more clear, you hear
about a "church" group that will hold up a sign saying "Hinckley is in Hell."
I've seen it all.
Sometimes I wish there was no First Amendment.
Surely the Westboro Baptist Church does something that is normal, compassionate,
and Christian. Theprotests in the media are just bizarre, cold, and
cultish. I'm sure that even Jesus scratches his head at the sight and says,
Amazing that they could consider themselves Christians and behave in such a
manner. It is absolutely reprehensible to disturb a funeral and behave that way
when people are mourning. You would think there is a way to voice your opinion
without imposing on funerals and disturbing people who have lost loved ones.
I pray for the protestors that one day they will know the truth and the truth
shall set them free. The Church Of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints is the only
TRUE church upon the face of the whole earth. no apologies. Gordon B Hinckley
was and is a prophet of God just as Moses of old. A true saint from Zimbabwe.
We must "forgive them for they no not what they do" God bless our Prophet dear.
I'm grateful to belong to a loving church, a forgiving church, Christ's church.
So, this is Christianity? Actually it's called smash-mouth Christianity. 3 Nephi
11: 29 - 30 and D&C 10:63 describes them perfectly and who is the source of
their hate and anger. Amazing, to denigrate the funeral of a great religious
leader in order to popularize their hate. Where do I sign up?
All this group is doing by such a disrespectful act is giving a bad name to
their denomination, a bad name to their city, and a bad name to their pastor and
his family. I poor pity the children raised by such people, with such a sad
example placed before them of how (not) to treat all people with the respect
How very sad We love our prophets and will sing with all our hearts We thank
thee oh god foe a prophrt.
This makes me very sad. Deepest sympathies to his family. He was very loved.
I understand how hurtful it will be to have protesters at a funeral. It's a
horrible thing to do, but to wish away the First Amendment?! Do you want to
lose YOUR right to free speech in other instances? Ignore them. That will make
a statement, as well.
I think there are more important things in this world than protest at the
President Hinckley.To me it is disrespectful and rude.He was a great
man and an awesome prophet.Let us honor him and not disrespect him.There is certainly a limit to freedom of speech,I think we should learn when
to keep our comments to ourselves and let those who loved him mourn in love and
I did a search on this Westboro Baptist church, it's headline is God hates fags.
I can't believe people would actually belong to a church that preaches hate. God
loves everyone, we are all His children. Just as we love our own childeren,
unconditionoally, even more so. I can't believe they are protesting at the
While at times the First Amendment causes us pause, without it no church could
preach. They would have the right to practice but what they said could be used
to hurt them.Already, those freedoms are under attack. In
California there is a bill, or at least was a bill, that made it illegal to do
or say anything that some special interest group could prove actual or
'imagined' fear or damage. I wonder why this church doesn't protest that.We know who these people are and what they stand for. As long as they
cannot make distracting noise or interfere with the funeral it won't cause
problems. They can be ignored, as they should be.
What a bunch of pathetic losers. On the other hand, criticism by this group
should be welcomed. I would be very concerned if these people were honoring
Haven't these bible-thumping, mean-spirited, "Christians" got something better
to do than disrupt the last rites of a much-loved man? They must have sad and
pathetic lives if this is what they spend their time and energy doing.
I am hoping someone gets a permit directly across the street from them to get a
nice group together to sing the hymns most loved by our Prophet. What a sign
that would be to those trying to incite hate and anger--hymns of love and
compassion about Christ.
I cannot imagine protesting at someone's funeral. I think it is shameful and
disrespectful. I may not share the religious beliefs of someone else, but to
malign him and make opportunistic use of the publicity his funeral generates to
serve my own agenda is self-serving, un-Christ-like and awfully petty.
A silent, peaceful protest in front of their cab or rental car some how
preventing them from making it to their site, might be interesting. Or perhaps
a flat rental tire or a cabby or conviently got lost might cause them to think
as well. Remember how Bringham Young slowed up Johnston's army in the 1850's.
He had Porter Rockwell drive off their horses and relocate their food and
livestock feed. No one got hurt and by the time the Army did arrive, cooler
heads prevailed. I wonder if something like this might not help.
Reading this makes me even more grateful to KNOW that he his back in the loving
arms of his dear wife and of our loving Savior Jesus Christ!
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against
powers, agsinst the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual
wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12. It never ceases to amaze me what
the Adversary will do to subvert righteousness. Can you imagine
what kind of people are taken in by this? Only those influenced by dark
principalities. I feel sorry for them. What impoverished lives they must
lead.A convert of 11 years. I so love our Church.
Best way to show your religion is to walk by these folks, give them a "good
morning," and turn the other cheek. It's a waste of time calling them names.
By their fruits ye shall know them. I loved Pres. Hinckley and with millions
sharing my feelings his fruits were love and forgivness the way a true follower
of our savior shoul have
This group is nothing more than mis-informed. They lack truth, and are
prisoners of ignorance.So we should only care that they are lost, nothing
more. Its not a disrespect to Pres Hinckley because they don't know him or who
he was. Let them be and hope one or all one day will understand.Lets look
to ourselves and the ways we disrespect the life he lived and the gospel truths
he taught us and try to improve, because we know better and should be better.
Westboro Baptist Church is well known for their outrageous hate mongering and
attention grabbing tactics. I am not a religious person but I have long been
appalled at their strange and mean spirited behavior. They have been showing up
at funerals of troops killed in action for a number of years yelling that God
hates America and killed the troops as a judgment against America for tolerating
gays. They have fewer than 200 members, they are just very effective at grabbing
media attention via crass stunts like this.
On the bright side, I guess it says something about the growing influence of the
church. Does this mean that the church is as threatening to the Westboro
Baptists as America? If so, that's a big step forward (in an assanine sort of
way).BTW- I've always wondered what judgment day is going to be like
for over-zealous religious practitioners of any faith (especially violent or
contentious groups). Man...I'd buy a ticket for that show (does that make me
akin to those groups? I hope not...).
At a time like this, I can more than understand and appreciate Porter Rockwell's
approach. My life and family has been blessed by the leadership of President
Why is okay to protest where people are mourning? I just think that is
disrespectful no matter what you believe. What if someone were to say those
things when one of their leaders died? They probably wouldn't like it very
much. It's ridiculous people think they are exemplifying Christ when they do
things like this.
Why even waste the space of your newspaper with this insignificant drivel?
These people do not deserve a mention.
Isa. 5: 20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put
darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet
"By their fruits we shall know them." These poeple seem to be the most
unchristian like I have seen. The acts of this congregation only goes to prove
that Satan will lead good people astray. To protest at aonyone's funeral is
repulsive. I hope those who are able to attend the funeral are blessed with
peace and able to feel the spirit of the Lord despite the efforts of the
I propose that no reporting (other than this article) be done on this group and
their protest this weekend. Just ignore them. Give them no press. Don't argue
with them, pretend like they are not there. These people typify what it is that
I do not like about organized religion. They are definitely not Christians and
need serious help and probably medication as well.
Come and protest. Your wasting money in travel, your wasting quality time with
your family, and really do you think it's actually going to be effective. Why
are people so interested in devoting this much of their time and resources to
dispute one singular church. Hmmmmmmmmmmm....let me guess. We'll see you in SLC
This extreme group is VERY small - somewhere between 70 and 150 people. They
believe themselves to be Christian, but are anything but. I am neither
Christian nor LDS, and these people offend me because they give Christians a bad
name. To protest a funeral (military, LDS, or otherwise) is simply horrible. I
do hope funeral attendees realize that most people respect and honor their
mourning, and that giving these lunatics any reaction will only feed their fire.
Go in peace.
This particular Baptist church will provide a stark contrast to the Lord's true
Church and what Christianity is truly about. They must be miserable and should
have our pity. If any one of them had bothered to read about Pres.Hinckley's
life, they would stand in awe of one of the most extraordinary men that ever
lived. I am glad to have been influenced by Pres.Hinckley's loving, Christlike
Who cares? I don't.
What a classless act. I just have to wonder who would want to participate in
something like this.
Where do they come from? Thy started as the KKK. The Southern Baptist Convention
decided in the 80's not to allow it's followers to be the leaders of the KKK. So
now they demonstrate with a unflaming cross but the same hatred. Sad!!
and we wonder why the 'christians' were fed to the lions !!!! any lions in Utah?
God Bless President Hinckley
I second A Modest Suggestion's proposal. I think that this article is that last
one we need to have about this scheduled protest. Any other press will be
playing into their hands.
We have been given an opportunity to practice those principles of kindness so
often taught and demonstrated by President Hinckley. It can be our priviledge
to be his legacy.
What would Pres. Hinckley say to this group? He would say, "Come in from the
cold. Warm yourselves in the halls of our buildings and by hearts of the people
of this church. We love you. We don't need to understand you to love you...our
love for you is without condition." Maybe something like that.. Oh, how I will
miss my dear Pres. Hinckley! May I learn to bridge gaps and take the sting away
from contention as he did! Pres. Hinkley was proof that God loves ALL His
This is no different than your typical conference session during the Main Street
Plaza flap.If the members of the Westboro Baptist Church wish to
make fools of themselves, I for one won't stand in their way.Brigham
Young once said: "Any time you kick Mormonism, you always kick it upstairs, not
down. The Lord Almighty so orders it."
Let these immature protesters come. Let them come & sleep in our motels and eat
in our restaurants and buy gas at our gas stations. Yes, let them come and boost
our economy a little.All we have to do is ignore them. Sure, there
will probably be one over-zealous idiot that gets in a fight with them and gets
arrested-there always is. But, if we all ignore them, they won't get the
satisfaction they seek.We thank thee O God for a Prophet.
No First Amendment!Just as the 1AMD protects the rights of those who want
to protest his funeral, It also protects the rights we have as a church. There
was a time when we couldn't say what we wanted and it resulted in the death of
Joseph Smith and the infamous extermination order. Remember the the 1AMD
doesn't just pertain to things that we want to hear, but things that we don't
want to hear also. I would rather have a few protesters at President Hinckley's
funeral, then not have the right to assemble and worship how we please every
Sunday. No 1Amd, no General Conference. Think about that.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE IGNORE THEM. If anyone going to the funeral of
President Hinckley gives this "hate group" any attention, they will accomplish
their goal of disrupting what will be a moving and spiritual tribute to a
prophet. If they get one picture in the media of an LDS member confronting them,
they will celebrate all the way back to Topeka and their pathetic, miserable
goals will be accomplished. IGNORE THEM. AVOID THEM. Don't punch them out, as I
know that will be tempting.
Have some respect for a wonderful man. Honestly, protesting a funeral of a
beloved leader? And this is coming from the church that claims Mormons are not
"Christian." It looks like they sure are though...
I think President Hinckley would wave at the protesters and smile to them.
Everyone should do the same. Bigotry still exists in this and othe Baptist
churches if that is what they are called. Really they are hate centers. Oh
well. We wish them well.
Classless, disrespectful, unchristian - how about adding selfish and self
serving? These baptish ministers get paid for their "service." Business not
booming "eh" (as we say it here in Canada).
Sometimes we must be content to "be still and know that I am God" When Westboro
Baptist Church's cup of bile is full, they will be dealt with by a long
suffering, patient and perfect Father in Heaven. I will bee watching Saturday.
The most excellent thing is that I believe President Hinckley had no idea just
how great a MAN he was! What an example to attempt to follow.
Go to Youtube and search "The Most Hated Family in America" and you can watch a
documentary about this crazy family, which pretty much make up the whole
congregation. It's enough to make your stomach turn.
The truth will always be persecuted.
Wouldn't it make a great statement if everyone attending the funeral would lay a
single flower at the feet of any protesters as the passed by without saying a
The best way for us to honor President Hinckley is to follow his example. He
exemplified TRUE Christianity when he lived up to what is sometimes the more
difficult requirement of our religion, as spoken by the Savior: "But I say unto
you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate
you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." (MT
5:44)When a group of protestors showed up at the Rexburg temple open
house, volunteers took them punch and cookies from the open house. That is what
it means to be Christian. I don't mean to preach, because I am FAR from perfect.
But, President Hinckley would not want us to say negative things about these
individuals, because to do so is contrary to what Christ taught. They can't hurt
the church anyway. I love President Hinckley and am inspired by his
ever-positive approach to life.
I feel bad for these people, they have obviously let their intolerance for the
rest of the world blacken their hearts.Lets show them love and show
them what Christianity really means! Ask them if they like Utah,
thank them for visiting Temple square and turn the other cheek and don't let
them ruin the spirit of our dear prophet. Let us live his legacy and do what he
would want us to do.
IGNORE THEM. All they want is an audience and to create shock value. Don't even
give them the time of day or waste your breath on any words to them in passing.
I saw we form a group that blockades the corner they want to protest at. When
they try to protest military funerals a group of bikers block them out, I saw we
do the same.
So, this permit to demonstrate in the process of being approved? APPROVED?
Seriously. You'd think Rocky was still mayor. But, I have to agree with the
previous comments saying "let them come and make fools of themselves..."
Notice us atheist let you morn and follow your beliefs in peace as civil
citizens should? Maybe, it's not the secular humanist that you should hold in
Don't they have jobs?
This is the same group that protests funerals of fallen soldiers with signs that
say "God hates gays."It's totally inappropriate and very low class.
Protesting a funeral? How little respect this shows on their behalf. Why not
celebrate his goodness rather than focusing on some mute point that is hardly
substantiated, considering the church literature produced on the topic. The
Savior taught to love everyone regardless of differences. Pres. Hinckley
emulated that teaching better than anyone.
Does anyone know who to contact in the SLC gov. that could stop this this. It is
just not right!
I am somewhat familiar with the Westboro Baptist Church. I actually admire them
for their firm stand against homosexual behavior. This is why I am a little
surprised. Don't they realize that they and the LDS Church are on the same side
on this particular point, that the LDS Church is one of the remaining churches
out there that firmly refuses to bend its standards to the demands of the
I really feel sorry for these protestors. It is a shame that they don't have or
want the truth. I will keep them in my prayers. I am so very greatful for the
LDS church and President Hinkley and I hope and pray that someday everyone will
have what we have and feel the love that we feel from our Savior and from each
member of this church. God Bless America and America Bless God.
Life is about lessons, this one is as basic as they come, "love your neighbor",
"blessed are the peacmakers"..."turn the other cheek"...'if you have done it
unto the least of these my brethren you have done it unto me'...great
opportunity to apply these lessons, and teach them to our children.As you listen to their words of hate you realize where it is coming from, and
makes you feel like you must be doing something right. There really is no
reason to take offense with these people. I'd be more concerned if they held a
President Hinckley memorial honoring him, these really are troubled
people...just hope that life's lessons will somehow touch them, and changed
their troubled lives.
This is far from a christian act. Shame on these Baptists. I think it's obvious
whose being led astray. I hope the rest of the Baptist community will condemn
I love the idea of the crowd singing We Thank Thee Oh God for a Prophet, and
other inspirational hymns while waiting in line. The voices of 100,000 people
singing will uplift and overshadow any poison these people have to spew. We, as
Latter-Day Saints, worship in song. Music comforts us as we grieve. Lets seek
to uplift and be loving.
Where does this church get their money to fly people all over the U.S. to do
things like this? We should find out who attends there, what businesses their
members are running and BOYCOTT and dry up their pockets any way we can. If
anyone out there is reading this and has any info, please post so we can do
something about this group.
These people are sick. How can someone be so full of hate and anger? By their
fruits I guess. God bless our Prophet and his family. President Hinckley is
truley where these folks think they are going.
Any group of individuals who support the stances taken by this group of so
called Christians should be ashamed of themselves. I have no problem with
people having different religious views or with people who have no religion.
They are completely free to choose what they believe in. If President
Hinckley were still alive he would probably council us to extend a hand of love
to them and to make them feel as comfortable in Salt Lake City as possible. Thank God for the restoration of the gospel and for great Prophets like
Pray for these people, do not stoop to their level by calling them names. We are
COMMANDED to love one another, and we must follow the example of our Lord and
Savior, and ALL the prophets. They loved and forgave everyone who trespassed
against them. The Savior at the last supper, at his trial, on the cross, etc. We
have the TRUTH, and it is our responsibility to tell those who are in darkness
to come to the light. President Hinckley IS a true prophet(as were those before
him),ordained in the pre-existence. They all used their agency in the right way
and served, as asked, in this divine calling. When those of other faiths,
religions and beliefs have gone beyond the veil, and meet the Savior face to
face, they will not be able to say that we did not tell them. They will be
responsible for themselves. In the meantime, we must open our mouths and not sit
on the things we have been taught, witnessed and been partakers of. Press
Who said we hold you in contempt? I know several secular humanists that are
great people, and I like them...I am sure that you also are a nice person. Let
us know when your atheist leader dies, and we will mourn with you.
Let them speak.We can all decide if we agree or not.Unfortunately the Constitution protects "Stupid Speech"...DUCKMAN
Jesus said love everyone. I would say that this baptist church is not practicing
what Jesus taught. Shame on them.
.... that even though we've had our differences with Baptists in the past, these
guys aren't the same thing. These Westboro lunatics are a fringe movement,
completely marginalized and ignored by every mainstream denomination and not
affiliated with any of the Baptist Conventions. They get their press by doing
these sorts of stunts, but they're just a bunch of extremist twits.Don't give these jerks the pleasure or the dignity of any attention. Just
help give President Hinckley the dignified and loving farewell he deserves, and
let those people do what they will.
I don't think we should stop it. I like the right to express my oppinions. Let
them say their peace and ignore it. It doesn't change who he was or what he
did. And, in the end they have chosen to live angry spiteful lives, so they
have payed the price for their choices already. If you fight them it only lends
creadence to what they are saying.
I am against any personal disrespect for Mr. Hinckly. I think he was a good man
and deserves the love of his followers. I think people have the right and reason
to protest the office he held. There are many questions and concerns about the
authenticity and practices of the church that people fear and disrespect. People
should have the right and opportunity to know the truth and not be bound by
irrational indoctrination and force. I hope one day the mormon people will be
To Contrasts: I'm sure I'm not just speaking for myself when I say that the
comments of sympathy and respect from non-religious, or non-member, individuals
are greatly appreciated. I've been very humbled and touched by everyone's kind
words this week, as I'm sure many others have. Thank you.
Isn't Mike Huckabee a Baptist?
Every one of you are holding up your own signs..just do what Hinckley would do
and go about your business..recognize it's America the beautiful. Then follow
what you profess to believe in CHOOSE THE RIGHT! Don't get uptight! Have a good
day and walk w/love , peace , happiness!
If the Westboro baptists are the only people going to heaven I don't think I'd
want to be there anyway!On a 1st amendment note, the city has to
approve their right to a peaceful law-abiding protest. "Protest" implies that
the views held by one group are contrary to the views held by others. We can't
just shut it down because we don't like what they have to say. In order to
retain our rights to speak, to gather together, and to express and practice our
religion we need to respect the rights of others. Their protests are
frustrating and annoying, but if we don't pay attention to them they have no
They are our brothers and sisters too and we should shower them with love and
kindness. As the old saying goes.....Kill them with kindness. Remember the
Prophet and Sister Hinckley will be in attendance and watching. Let's honor them
both by protecting what we hold dear and sacred and not lose the Spirit. Pray
and fast that day and unite your families together and Satan will NOT prevail.
We must be doing something right, if the adversary is using others to make such
a fuss about the leaders of our church. Hmmmmmmm????????? Something to think
Folks the best thing you can do is ignore them, they WANT reaction, you can
either have civility and peace in your heart when President Hinckley is laid to
rest, or you can ad to the atmosphere by being confrontational, think about
which one the Prophet would have approved of.
These people would love to cause a fight and controversy. The response that
would best honor Pres. Hinckley would be to simply ignore them. I'm sure that's
what he would do.
That anyone would protest or disrupt a funeral, whether that of a fallen soldier
or a church leader, is disgraceful. These monsters want to get a reaction from
the LDS members who attend the funeral. The best way to handle them is to ignore
them. Don't give them the angry reactions they crave. I am not LDS,
but perhaps this episode will make LDS members more sensitive to what the rest
of the country has experienced for years at the hands of Westboro Baptist
"Church" (they are independent and NOT affiliated with any national Baptist
group, no one would want them!). They protested the funeral of
Matthew Shepard (the man who was murdered in Wyoming for being gay); their
website despicts Shepard burning in Hell. They protest at military
funerals all over the country, upsetting the families of soldiers they never
even met. They even said the tsunami disaster in Thailand and
Indonesia---to which the LDS Church sent substantial aid---was punishment from
God. I would not want to see the First Amendment suspended. Rather,
is it too much to ask for these kooks to show some decency and respect to the
Here is a chance to live what he taught. I can think of no better way to honor
him. Avoid contention. Don't wrestle with a pig in the mud.
I am pretty sure this is what Jesus would do. NOT!! Your time could be better
spent feeding the poor or something else. Obviously the work of Satan to incite
feelings of hate and discontent.
All I can say is that I stand on my committment to support the rights of others
to express their opinions. Otherwise, I will not lower my standards to the level
of these people.
Can't put the link here, but Westboro has a press release regarding their
protest of the Prophet's funeral. There are 2 great ironies about this stemming
from the press release and this article:1. The press release
criticizes LDS teaching that man can become like God, yet apparently they
already know "Hinckley is in hell," something only God can know.2.
Westboro's spokesperson criticized Pres. Hinckley for apparently not being tough
enough on gays. I'm sure there are groups who would disagree and say he and the
Church were too tough.
What can I say that hasn't been said already? They don't have the truth, its
clear to all. They are very misguided but that is clear as well. To the
members of the Westboro Baptist Church, you are only embarrasing yourself but we
still love you and as wrong as you are, we believe you have the right to choose,
but be prepared to accept the consequences. The distasteful action will just go
ignored by most, now is not the time to belittle someone, let it go, remember
love the sinner, not the sin.
I think everyone that attends the funeral should shake hands with these people
and say "hello". Be kind and show them what we are all about. We follow
I have seen it all: I used to be a member of a local Baptist church, and they
were very judgmental against the LDS faith. That is why I left to join this
wonderful LDS church that says be kind to everyone. But I don't think even that
Baptist church would go as low as protesting during a funeral. That is very
disrespectful no matter whose funeral.. Would you find a LDS ward protesting
during Billy Graham's funeral or the Popes funeral?? I think not that is why We
are the true Church Of Jesus Christ,and are Christians!!
Love thy neighbor as you love yourself. It is a hard thing to do, but it is what
Christ has asked of us.I like the idea of members singing hymns in
the streets. The misguided can feel our love and witness true praise and
worship. Perhaps one of that group may be receptive to the spirit, and realize
the error in judgement.I can't be there physically, but I'll be at
our Ward Building watching the service broadcast. Praises to our
If these people claim to be christians they need to read up on what a christian
is. I know for a fact that Jesus would not approve of protesting a funeral for
anyone. I hope they realize that what they are doing is not christ like. They
need to find more productive things to do with their time like serve the lord.
We dont need a permit to walk down the street signing songs because we are not
protesting.. We should all do it.
What a great example of an empty life driven by pointless feelings we have
before us here with the Baptist Church. What spirit is leading these people?
This group is afraid..afraid of truth. Most people who know something is true
however do not want to admit it and will do whatever it takes to ensure that
truth does not come to pass. President Hinckley was the perfect example of this
truth and faith and we would all be better people if we followed his example of
that truth and faith that he held so dear to his heart.
First remember that the Baptist Church has nothing to do these people.
Second remember these people are a hate group pure and simple. They hate
Mormons, they hate Catholics, they hate Jews, the hate Muslims, they hate the
United States, they hate many other countries including our neighbor to the
north. Third these people will be there to create conflict. This so
called church is supported by a law firm run by the church founders. They try to
get people mad and take action. Then they will file lawsuits against the people,
the city for not protecting them and anyone else they can get money out. Like
Doug Wright said, stay clear of these people and ignore them because they want
to start a fight. Fourth, these people will die out because they are
only allowed to marry within the church and most of the young woman are not
getting married or having children.
It would be awesome if a couple area Relief Societies got together and made them
some hot food (Mormon women do make a mean casserole) and hot chocolate (SLC in
Feb.? burrrr) and brought them some extra blankets in case they get too cold.
ye shall know them by their works.
I would have several mental health councilors advaiable to interact with these
folks, and warn them about drinking too much " cool aid ".
Can these people protest the Conference in April instead of a funeral of a
wonderful husband a loving father and a TRUE PROPHET OF GOD?I am so
glad he spoke in our Stk Conference on Jan 13th 2008.WE LOVE YOU
This protest will be a demonstration of ignorance. Just like in the days of
Joseph Smith, they wanted to murder him and knew nothing about him.I hope
someday to be the kind of person President Hinckley would like me to be. I love
the Prophet. He was chosen and extremely well prepared by The Lord. I won't pay
any attention to the adversary and his minions. I thank the Lord for a prophet.
I am a pastor of a Baptist Church in Salt Lake City. I am disgusted by the
actions of this so called "Baptist" church. I do not believe that people with
this kind of anger and hate truly know Jesus Christ as their Savior. I do not
think that President Hinckley was a prophet, but that is a theological
difference that LDS people and non-LDS can discuss in civility. Difference in
religion or theology should not reach this level of self-gratifying hatred and
arrogance as exhibited by Westboro "church." I would like my LDS friends to
know that the majority of that "baptist" church are the children of the one
pastor. They are denounced by every Baptist group I know. I had a phone call
this morning from an irate individual first saying that my church was despicable
and that baptists are horrible. Please do not lump all of us together, that
would be like Baptists saying that Warren Jeffs is the same as Gordon Hinckley
which is not true. There is just as many varieties of Mormons in this nation as
Baptists, so I ask again to my LDS friends, please do not catagorize all of us
Church is better than another. But I do believe in respect for everyone. The
past President of the LDS church was a good man and deserves the utmost respect.
People that want to "protest" certain things need to choose a much better time
and place than a funeral! (How disgusting)
I've seen these Westboro people at work at a university graduation in the
Midwest. Their attitude and "God is Hate" ideology speaks for itself, and I'm
convinced will be duly "rewarded" in the next world. There is
nothing to be gained by addressing them or even acknowledging their presence.
Ignore them--pretend they're not even there. They live to provoke and offend
others and besmirch and befoul the name of true Christianity. They are
infinitely more guilty of blaspheming the name of Christ than anyone they've
ever accused. They are therefore to be pitied, not argued with.I am
glad I have learned and seen for myself that these people DO NOT represent the
voice and position of true Christians (including Baptists) and other religious
believers worldwide. They do not represent the voice of true Christians in
regards to President Hinckley.The irony is that President Hinckley
himself would have compassion on these people, were he here. May he rest in the
peace he deserves with God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
There are many of them who are very good people. Everyone should remember that
the Westboro group is really no more representative of the Baptists as a whole
as the fundamentalist LDS are of the rest of us. Sad that they do this, but
this is their choice.Thank the DesNews for the heads up and let them
do what they choose.
I think what needs to be done is protest the protesters. In fact we need to get
a bunch of the BYU and Utah Football players together that are LDS (the big
ones) to go down across the street and protest them. The protesters from the
Mid-West would be intimidated to say anything if they saw the size of some of
Why cant people just learn to get a long? The Mormons only want peace in the
world. That is what our church is all about.
Maybe this group will influence voters from voting for Huckabee (as he is a
Baptist preacher) and support for Romney would increase. It's just a thought,
but maybe good could come from this.
Such a despicable act will only hurt them. Let them come and make a fool of
themselves. True Christians would never even contemplate on doing such heinous
To fellow saints, I am sure that Pres.Hinckley would want us
to love,pray for them that despised and say evil things against us. Let us
follow his counsel coming from the Lord. On the other hand, let's protect our
laws to maintain civility and proper behavior in our community. We'll surely
miss a true prophet of of God. He lived a Christlike life.
No class. Let God judge the ignorant.
I can't believe when people want to celebrate and mourn for an individual,
others just can't leave them alone. Respect others!
If I were the P.R. guy for the Church, I would hire a group like this to show
up.What a contrast to the real spirit. Even the Mockers on local
blogs would notice the difference.
Maybe some of their baptist brothers will line up with them and hold up their
huckabee signs! Would make a beautiful picture, perfect for the evening news.
Perhaps this church should read the sermon on the mount before planning another
protest. "Blessed are the peacemakers..."
The Westbro Baptist church is not Recognized by the Baptist dominations. Please
as an convert of the church I am asking everyone to remember that President
Hinkley would not want us to lump them all together. I still have many family
members of the baptist faith and they are just as appalled as the rest of us.
Kets embrace them and let them know that we still love them even if they are
I'm not LDS, but I have sympathy for what the LDS community is experiencing
right now. I too think the Westboro "church" is completely out of line, whether
it's Hinckley's funeral, or Matthew Shepherd's, or a military funeral. But now
can you understand why non-LDS people get annoyed/hurt/angry when Mormons think
they are wrong or "going to hell" simply because we may not have the same
beliefs as you?
I am proud to be LDS and have a sense of morals unlike people who have none
andcannot respect other people's time of mourning!! How sad Heavenly Father must
be for them.
Get a life...what a bunch of mean spirited, insensitive losers. These people
are one step away from putting anyone that doesn't agree with them in a
concentration camp if they could. That much hate will cause them to eventually
explode and cross the line of legality or end up having a Jim Jones cool-aid
party somewheres. The Saviour would never act this way, nor condone such
Having spent over half my life in Nashville, the buckle of the bible belt, I
have a lot of experience with and not much love for baptist preachers. Westboro
is just another disgraceful, demon possessed hate group, that makes the money
grubbing, mormon bashing trash I know here, look like angels.
The Guy from Out West is too nice. Let's pray for a huge snow storm on
::extends olive branch:: I'm with you guys. What the WBC is planning on doing
is reprehensible, horrible and worthy of a Danite extermination order from
Brigham Young. However, they ARE a hate based organization. Any attention they
receive whether negative or positive will only fuel their fires. If
you are going to Gordon B Hinckley's funeral please ignore them, don't feed them
(literally or metaphorically) as it will only encourage them or open up
opportunities for them to spew their hatred in different ways.Good
luck to all of you and sorry for your loss.j
Is it legal to surround them (but not restrain/detain) and hold up sheets so no
one can see them?
Huckabee claims to be a Baptist.
For those of you still beating the dead horse, WESTBORO CHURCH ARE NOT TRUE
BAPTISTS. they are a bunch of zealot fundamentalists.
Wrong audience, wrong time. It amazes me that people stage protests that hurt
their cause. A protest in and of itself means absolutely nothing unless opinions
are swayed to your own. Cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
Disadvantage yourself in order to do harm to an adversary.
a Bible worshipping church claiming to be followers of Christ but act like
the devil should make all of us suspect. President Hinckley deserves
better. I hope the media exposes these religious fanatics forwhat they
are -- un-American Bigots!
I dont agree with the protest, but all these self rightous people going off on
how "true" the church is and how it is the "only" true church is the reason that
they want to come and protest. LIVE AND LET LIVE. That goes for all of the
Christians out there, including you mormons.I am a fan of Gordon, I think
he was nice enough, and I think it is stupid that people will protest his
funeral, but at the same time, i see the same traits that the protestors have in
many of the post here. WHO CARES? We fight over a definition of God, no
level-minded individual would ever care enough about anything to treat people
poorley. I hope that we can all one day put religion on the side and look at
each other for what we are, in this life togther, and we are never going to
agree with every one, so we might as well smile and have some.
We do not have to wonder what President Hinckley would say about those who
oppose the Church and those who would protest at his funeral. President Hinckley
addressed this issue in the last General Conference. I would encourage all
people who love President Hinckley and who love the Lord to follow his prophetic
counsel."Now, my dear brethren, in closing I plead with you to
control your tempers, to put a smile upon your faces, which will erase anger;
speak out with words of love and peace, appreciation, and respect. If you will
do this, your lives will be without regret. Your marriages and family
relationships will be preserved. You will be much happier. You will do greater
good. You will feel a sense of peace that will be wonderful.May the
Lord bless you and inspire you to walk without anger, without bitterness of any
kind, but to reach out to others with expressions of friendship, appreciation,
and love. This is my humble prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen."President Gordon B. HinckleyOctober 2007 General Conference
My Father has a saying; " If you have to ask is someone is Christian or
not...perhaps you need to ask yourself the same question." We, as members of
this beautiful Christ-ian church, should take the most vital commandment of our
Savior and put it out there for the rest of the world to see..." This
commandment I give to you, love one another as I love you, love one another." We
are fortunate to have a Living Prophet to guide us and direct us with the
spirutal love of Christ and our Holy Ghost. Our beloved Prophet, Gordon B.
Hinkley, set a beautiful spirit-filled example as to how we should live-- We
live as Our Savior would; He lives within each and everyone of us. When we see
these protesters, smile, wave, and say: " The Lord, Jesus Christ, loves all His
children...Tell them that they are beloved children of our Heavenly Father, and
that because of that profound statement--we love them as well--for that is what
our Savior wants for his children.
We have been tolerating this group, since with the first amendment we dont have
a choice. This is a church consists of members of one very ignorant family led
by a senile old man. They have been protesting soldiers funerals throughout the
country, making a very traumatic and mournful time for families even worse. But
I know that Pres. Hinckley was a true prophet and leader of the only true church
on the earth today and he will be missed.
I find it quite ironic that one of the issues they have with President Hinckley
is his soft stance on homosexuality- I guess they haven't read the proclamation
to the family, or seen some of the specials about homosexuals in the Mormon
church and how they feel that they're being wronged by the church for their
lifestyle. President Hinckley has stated that we extend love and fellowship to
these brothers and sisters, but cannot condone any immoral acts by them any more
than immoral acts from others. I guess that stance isn't strong
enough for this group- it has to be pure hatred or it's not enough.As for anonymous@12:07- I'm sorry if you've had members of the Mormon church
inform you that you're going to hell because you don't believe the same way. If
you've ever heard anything from President Hinckley, he would never say anything
remotely related to that or even imply it. I hope here that you're not making
assumptions about the Mormon church's beliefs. As for where you're going after
you die, that's up to God-(the only one who can properly judge you), and most
Mormons wouldn't attempt to judge you prematurely or wrongly.
As tempting as it is I really don't want to have a casserole chucked back at
me..kindness is in need here and it takes a bigger person to be Kind under such
actions being planned out to be on public display...however I do agree with
President Hinckley's words..be less quick to anger, put a smile on our faces and
show the world (who will be watching by the way) what true genuine Christians
the LDS faith consists of and is founded upon..after all we are followers of
Christ and he too would walk on by, and yes with a smile on his face..lets just
be like Jesus and do what is right as we ALL know what that consist of.
"It would be awesome if a couple area Relief Societies got together and made
them some hot food (Mormon women do make a mean casserole) and hot chocolate
(SLC in Feb.? burrrr) and brought them some extra blankets in case they get too
cold."They'd throw it back in their faces. These protesters have no
dignity, grace, or manners. They are haters of the worst kind.
If I were a Baptist leader, I think I would organize every local Baptist to fill
the corner so full of bodies there would be no place for the protesters to stand
that would be legal. Then the Relief Society could serve them hot food, everyone
could sing together, and President Hinckley could smile at all of us. I think
other churches would be surprised at how kindly the LDS feel about them.
Someone should ask the former Baptist minister, Mike Huckabee, if he approves of
the protesters' conduct. Would be an important piece of information on which to
judge a political candidate.PS to the monitor: What is so
distasteful about this post?
Mormon's, despite how we feel, aren't considered "Christians." If this group
claims to be "Christian" I am proud not to be a christian.
I am a convert to the LDS Church. There is no excuse (human frailties
notwithstanding) for a Mormon to tell ANYONE they are going to hell. Our beliefs
don't allow for one to say that, and that was a big point of why I joined the
Church. People in my former faith (I won't name what that was, out of respect
for members of it) told me I was going to hell for becoming LDS.I
was taught by the missionaries that everyone will get the SAME FAIR CHANCE to
believe and do the SAME THINGS in order to be saved. This makes no one exempt
from having to accept Christ and his gospel, and it also condemns no one for
having died without knowing of it. It is the perfect balance from a perfect
God.If not for the witness of the Spirit, this doctrine is how I
would be "logically" converted to the Church (taking into account that most
beliefs of many religions defy earthly logic). And to hear that fellow
Latter-day Saints would say things contrary to this wonderful doctrine pains me.
In case someone is unsure who this groups master is. Moroni 7:15-17 gives us the
way to decern.It is plain to know who they serve and it IS up to us
to judge. The spirit of christ is given to all to help.vs 17 first.
"But whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do evil, and believe not in Christ, and
deny him, and serve not God, then you may know with a perfect knowledge it is of
the devil; for after this manner doth the devil work, for he persuadeth no man
to do good, no, not one; neither do his angels; NEITHER DO THEY WHICH SUBJECT
THEMSELVES UNTO HIM."Describes these protestors well.vs
16 "...every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in
Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; whereforth ye may know
with a perfect knowledge it is of God."I know which side President
Hinckley is on.3 Nephi 11:29 "...he that hath the spirit of
contention is not of me, but of the devil, who is the father of contention, and
he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another."
Pastor Johnson, I'm a born and raised Salt Lake City, Latter-Day Saint who has a
father who is a die hard Garrison Keelor fan - "A Praire Home Companion" on the
radio - I also come from a family of Eagle Scouts - from an organization such as
The Boy Scouts of America who involve youth of all religions. I just want to
re-assure you that I'm aware of the expansive numbers of Baptists out there - I
have bluegrass playing friends who are Baptists from North Carolina. - The
Gospel of Jesus Christ is the resounding message in any Christian church and
though we all fall short of him, we can yet hear his words and strive to become
more like him. Certainly I assume as a fellow Christian that your belief and
understanding of Jesus Christ is in many regards similar to mine - as he taught
in parables of degrees of heaven, as he healed, as he showed again and again
that he was the promised Messiah - His spirit and the Holy Ghost is the power
that strives to bring us all closer to him - the protesters as well who God
"Where does this church get their money to fly people all over the U.S. to do
things like this?"Lawsuits, from the rage they inspire. Searching
them on the internet and clicking on their website makes them money. IGNORE THEM
and they earn nothing.
I'm not LDS, but I've lived in Utah now almost 30 years. I've always gotten
along just fine here on a live and let live basis. To be truthful I'm pretty
much ambivalent about who is or isn't the President of the LDS Church, but
clearly President Hinkley was a good and worthy man,and the members of the
Westboro Babtist Church need to get a life, preferably a more Christian one.
I'm not LDS but I think it's horrific that bigots can hide behind the guise of a
"church" to disseminate hate. Their self-righteousness is sickening.
President Hinckley would've probably sided with the comment about someone
getting food and warmth for these individuals. How confused must a person be to
do the same that those in Jerusalem did when they insisted that Jesus be
crucified. Jesus Christ himself was confronted with the worst of enemies. The
adversary and his influence is similar today as it was in biblical times. That
same adversary whose plan is to confuse and cause fear and to entrap and to
cause misery to us all is the same that was there in biblical times. If there
is a scapegoat in all of this, it is the dark angel which is the devil. How
strange that a funeral of a prophet to many who believe and a righteous, good
man to many who don't would be met with a group who in essence spit on a grave -
how small - how confused they are - On the one hand my heart goes out to them -
on the other I simply recognize the hand of the adversary in having guided them
down an entirely erroneous path belittling the divine nature and potential of
It's really sad that Westboro Church has nothing better to do then to hurt other
people. I know Christ would not do something like that. I guess they really
don't believe in God and his son Jesus Christ for doing that they do. Thank God
for President Hinckley. May he rest in peace with Sister Hinckley
WOW!!! It's so hard to believe that one particular so-called Church would
choose to picket a funeral for our beloved prophet Gordon B Hinckley!!!I
guess we in Canada are very blessed, in that we aren't so actively pursecuted as
our Brothers and Sisters are in the United States.What a sad commentary it
is that our faith is still so misunderstood, and people are still so afraid and
or ignorant of what it truly means to be LDS!!!I agree President Hinckley
would want us to act with the same grace, tolerance, and love for others that
this remarkable man has shown throughout his entire life.
i know its not the right thing to do but if i saw a sign that said pray for more
dead soldiers they better pray they can run fast cause i would beat the holy tar
out of every single one of them
Br Rockwell and the Danites should take care of this.
Hopefully the media will be wise enough not to cover the demonstration. All
they want is publicity. If they are left alone they will soon disappate.
"Hinckley is in Hell"? This Westboro group purports to speak for the Final
Judgment of God? If Hinckley is in Hell, what chance do the rest of us have?
How self righteous of a group of people! What kind of person would be so self
assured in their standing before God to single any other as the one to be found
in Hell. I imagine Gordon B. with a wry smile and shaking his head with the
audacity of such a mislead group of people. How sad and pathetic this
organization is- What WOULD Jesus do?
It's amazing these radical Bible dudes have time to dedicate to this protest
when really they ought to be spending their time spreading whispers about how if
a Mormon was elected President it would be like the devil himself being in
charge. Yes, amazing they can multi-task like this.
"Now, my dear brethren, in closing I plead with you to control your tempers, to
put a smile upon your faces, which will erase anger; speak out with words of
love and peace, appreciation, and respect. If you will do this, your lives will
be without regret. Your marriages and family relationships will be preserved.
You will be much happier. You will do greater good. You will feel a sense of
peace that will be wonderful.May the Lord bless you and inspire you
to walk without anger, without bitterness of any kind, but to reach out to
others with expressions of friendship, appreciation, and love. This is my humble
prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen."President Gordon B.
HinckleyOctober 2007 General Conference THank you for posting
this quote! I know that Pres. Hinckley would want us to be kinder to eachother
and not ackknowledge those trying to hurt us with thier words!RE:
Matt JohnsonThanks for reminding us that not all Baptists are the same.
Having grown up in Alabama, and having had alot of Baptist friends and
relatives, I can tell you that most Baptists are very kind, Christian people!!
Your loving attitudes will end up getting in a brawl on Saturday.
You know the term kicking someone when there down. It means not having the the
guts to do any thing when the other person has a chance to say or do anything.
Well thats just what the people who are planning to be protesting outside ant
Pres. Hinkleys funeral are doing. I must say that it sickens me to the very core
to hear that. Well I have to get back to school. I hope that the protesters will
have a good life now and after. I know I will.
Lets all try to just get a long and turn the other cheek. We are
Again showing that Christ-Like compassion is amiss from extremists. You may not
agree with Mormonism, but should that drive people who claim to be "Saved" to
not be tolerant and compassionate to the Family and the Members of a church?
Agree or not With Gordon B. Hinckley or not he is truly one of the great men and
Church Leaders of our time. He taught tolerance and to show respect to others.
He he showed his actions in word and in deed. Now that he is gone the attempt to
slander and deface who he was and what he taught. I will make one
guarantee, when this Minister passes, there won't be a single Mormon protesting
at her funeral. In fact, they will probably take funeral potatoes and comfort
her family and congregation."If ye have done this unto the least of
my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
While I'm no fan of some of the LDS church's policies, this is so classless.
President Hinckley was a good man and deserves to be honored by those who
believe him to be a prophet. He lived a wonderful life. I know how
hurt I would feel if somebody protested at my loved one's funeral condemning
them to hell. It's sad Christianity at times can seem so divided.As
despicable as this is, I am still grateful for the First Amendment.
This hate group isnt religous at all. Their belief is that the whole world is
going to hell for being homosexual or condoning them. They have no respect for
their country and they basically come up with any reason in the world to hate.
Fred Phelps, the groups leader, is a senile, psychotic, old man. The
best thing we can do in this situation is treat them with kindness or ignore
them all together. We dont need to disrupt President Hinckley's funeral any
further by loosing control of ourselves and assaulting these guys. Don't try to
contend with them, they are so far gone astray that it wont do any good. They
just look for reasons to hate, and in their mind if your not a member of their
church your going to "hell". We as followers of christ can follow his example.
Gordon B. Hinckley was a great man and nobody can tell us any different.
Wow...these fools are simply PATHETIC.
It is amzing to me that some of these Christians claim that the Mormons are not
Christian. President Hinckley, by both his sermons and his example, was a true
Christian. The people of the Westboro Baptist Church spreads its hate and
contention. If the Westboro Baptists read their Bibles(Which I doubt.) They
would have read the verse that states that contention is of the devil.
Therefore, I can only conclude that they follow The Prince of Darkness and not
The Prince of Peace. Thank-You
Both religions are whacky, IMO. But Westboro REALLY needs to back down. I was
still in shock over hearing about them wanting to protest Heath Ledgers
Someone should spy on these folks. I am sure there is a homosexual scandal
coming with their leaders soon enough. Positive energy certainly surrounded
Hinckley; it was just obvious in how he carried himself.
Its wierd to me that LDS people are bashing these people for hating homosexuals.
The church has gone out of its way to ban gay marriage everywhere. Get a grip
on reality people.
I agree with the singing of hymms and also think the LDS members should politley
wave at the protesters with a cane! Wouldn't that be a compliment to President
Fools Fools Fools! This the biggest bunch of nonsense that I have ever read!
Who cares about these degenerates? They cannot hurt the church if we ignore them
in all their ignorance. They are foolish and disrespectful to everyone. not just
Maybe the Utah chapters of the Temple Riders Association could show up on their
bikes and pass out hot chocolate to the protesters. That could be our version
of the veteran biker groups that protect the funerals they protest.
Contention is of the devil... is not stated so plainly in the bible that is 3rd
Nephi 11:29, but I totally agree with the idea. Having served a mission
surrounded by people of the Westboro "mentality" and I pity them. Because their
whole belief system is the destruction of others beliefs. I would simply refer
to Matthew 5:43-48. We can only love them and hope they have the opportunity to
change and then take the chance when it is there.
Wouldn't it be nice if this Westboro Baptist Church practiced and preached what
THEY actually believe instead of preaching how bad and evil Mormons are? If
their whole religion is based on hating others...what kind of Christian religon
Dont you people realize that these protesters are horribly starved for
attention? They cannot handle the LDS church getting so much of what they cannot
have. These protesters are a very jealous and greedy group of people... so they
strikeout at us. Although, everyone realizes that we are a strong people and we
can ignore this silly behavior. What would the Savior do?
Rev. Johnson, thanks for your kind words! Those of us Mormons who have had
positive experiences with Baptists and Christians who *truly* believe what they
preach know you're correct. These Westboro people don't even deserve to be
called "Baptist." They are WAY out there. Most *real* Baptists are at least
sincere about trying to love God and their fellow man, as Christ truly taught,
despite all of our flaws and differences. Thank you, Rev. Johnson, for your
grace and class!
this group in without love and affection. Void of compassion. I wonder what type
of family these individuals came from. Sad. They some how were never taught
common decency and respect. I pity their miserable lives.
Won't it be great to meet some of these people on the other side! I can hardly
wait to see the looks on their faces when they realize they have been so
deceived by the great deceiver! Let 'em protest we know the truth and as stated
before "The truth will set us free"!
These protestors must seriously have nothing better to do than bash mormons.
While I believe this Westboro group to be a troop of sick, hateful, and angry
people, there are MANY MORMONS that hold themselves above all others. I have
experienced the judgement of Mormons while simply visiting Salt Lake City on a
vacation. Hate is hate. Judgement is judgement. And while the Westboro tactics
are reprehensible, the Mormons who judge everyday are doing the same thing, but
just in a different way.
I am a Baptist, but I am just as revolted by the actions of this group as all of
you. One cannot help but wonder how this group could possibly imagine that they
are following the example of Christ.To judge all other Christians,
or even just all other Baptists, by this group would be much akin to judging all
Mormons by Warren Jeffs.
As a Evangelical Christian myself, I detest these types of protests. An
important religious leader has died. He and his family deserve respect, not
Wackos holding up signs saying "Hinckley is in Hell."I encourage all
my fellow Evangelicals to stage a peaceful protest (at the same time) on the
opposite corner exposing these nuts for what they are.Though I am
not LDS, I support the LDS' faith to honor their leader without these fruit
cakes causing problems.P.S. To the LDS faithful, please ignore them.
What they want is a confrontation that will garner them national publicity.
When I first read this article, I was so upset that the Westboro Baptists had
decided to protest President Hinckley's funeral. Of course I had heard of them
and the hurt they spread, and my heart just sank at the idea of their disrupting
the celebration of a beautiful life. I wasn't able to read the comments yet
because I had to put my son down for his nap, but while I rocked him, I was
still so angry and hurt. But now, after having read a few of these comments,
the ones suggesting mourners smile and wave, or lay a flower at the feet of the
protesters, or act as Pres. Hinckley would've, I feel so much better. Thank you
to all of you who commented in like manner. It helped soften my heart and
soothe my anger. I won't be able to attend either way, but thank you for
showing a cool head in the midst of such hurtful circumstances. God bless
President Hinckley and all those who do their best to live exemplary,
Fellow LDS members: Please ignore these "people" from Westboro. Saying nothing,
doing nothing is your best bet. If you take them casseroles, be prepared to
have them thrown back at you and be accused of trying to poison them. If you
wave canes, they'll scream about you threatening them and tell the world. The
Porter Rockwell jokes--funny here, kinda, but not so much Saturday morning.Acknowledging them puts you in a no-win situation. Just let them do
their thing and move on. That's being realistic, not unkind. They really ARE
that bigoted and spiteful, sorry to say. They've been doing this for years and
they're very good at what they do--hating others and generating resentment.Since this is America, they ARE entitled to their free speech. They'll
use theirs to show what they're really made of and what they really believe. So
use yours to say nothing, leave them alone, and show who the true Christians
really are.Honor President Hinckley and the Savior by doing what
both would have you do: Try a little harder to be a little kinder, and remember
Hey, go ahead and let them talk. Just don't drink if they offer and Kool-aid...
Wow, I can't beleive human beings would actually protest at a funeral. Thats
Re: Rev., Johnson, thank you for your nice words. I respect your thoughts on
this. However, we have some neighbors living next-door to us from your
congregations who are not as considerate as you are, and they would probably be
better off joining the protester group. They deliberately taunt us every chance
they have because we are LDS. Perhaps you can talk some sense into some of these
people with your strength, wisdom and knowledge. Thank You and we
Satan works in mysterius ways. I believe they are following his rule, not the
golden rule. This group makes me want to throw up. Why do people follow such
sick leaders, all in the name of religion. Because they are sick also. I'm sure
it makes Father ill to see this going on. Would be hard to hold my cool if I
were there honoring this wonderful prophet with that trash on the corner.
I am profoundly impressed by the mature and spiritual nature of the people of
Utah. My knee jerk reaction to this article and to the "Baptist from Westbury"
was naturally outrage. But then as I read many of the comments and thought about
the great Prophet they mean to run down. I was hearted at the kindness and
Christ like attitude that we as a people try so very hard to uphold. We are a meek and wise people. The world confuses meekness for weakness. The
world has no idea how strong we are. If we were a weak people we would lash out
and play the victim. We choose victory with quiet resolve and dignity. And am
proud to be a Latter Day Saint and proud to live in this great state in the
United States that allows the freedom to ignore those who unwisely use the
freedom to speak.
I sure appreciated Honor GBH's comments -- we should honor President Hinckley by
living as he taught -- be tolerant & kind not vengeful or vicious. I
wish these folks wouldn't protest -- I wish they knew what I know: that Gordon
B. Hinckley was a prophet of God called to teach God's children how to live in
love & peace so they can return to live with Him someday.But these
people have their agency -- gratefully, I have mine, too, and can choose not to
get angry or confrontational -- to let them exercise their agency in peace.I definitely think the "no audience, no reporting" idea is a good one.
I've seen what my kids do with an audience -- it isn't pretty :-)!
Y'know, Pres. Hinckley would probably say there's a soul in that protester that
needs love and compassion and may have deep troubles that contribute to their
behavior, and love the person, learn to forgive the behavior. That's not just
good Christianity, it's good citizenship and manners!
Even if you don't like the guy his funeral isn't the place to protest.
In comparing the character of the two, If I have a choice between being in
heaven with Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptists, or being in Hell with
President Hinckley, I'll be sure to grab some shorts and a fan on my way down.
I really appreciate all suggestions for reactions to the protesters, expected
to come on Saturday, that represent what I expect Pres. Hinckley would have
done. "Be kind" comes to mind, as well as "Be smart", "Be positive", "Be
humble", "Be prayerful", and "Be involved". Wouldn't it be great for some mature
youth or (young) adults to "Be involved" on Saturday and, in an acceptable way,
stand between protesters and mourners, wearing clothing, covered with
invitations, that remind us all of the best "Way to be": (Be) "smart", "kind",
"still" and "grateful", especially for the God-given guidance through Pres.
Hinckley, that helps us to deal in a loving manner even with these misguided
protesters (John 13: 35).
I am waiting to see if Mike Huckabee is the first Baptist preacher to denounce
and decry this event in that they bear the same religious lockstep name as
his....but then again, I'm not going to hold my breath since I never heard any
denouncement of his ill-willed low blow declaring that Mormons believe Jesus and
the devil are brothers.
The Westboro group are not protesting 'Mormons' ... they protest everyone! They
want/need the exposure to spread their message of hate. They think everyone is
going to hell and it is their God-given duty to let us know about it. They also
believe that the more we hate them or revile them, the more assured they are of
being saved - because if you 'love Christ you will suffer for him'. Truly
twisted.And this group is NOT an example of a true Baptist. As a member
of the LDS faith, I have found good people in all faiths. I do not believe that
anyone not of the LDS faith will go to hell. That is for God to judge.
Everyone is just trying to do the very best that they can and we need to love
them for it.TO: Matt Johnson - Thank you for being a friend. And know
that I will think of you when I greet and smile all strangers that I meet.
Every sentiment expressed by you "faithful" Mormons has its exact mirror image
in the sentiments of the Baptists. Don't you see that they are just as
passionately "convinced" of their "testimonies" as you are of yours? (Perhaps
moreso!)You see how apparently arrogant these Baptists are by
claiming to have the "truth", but why can't you see how arrogant you are by
claiming the "know (beyond a shadow of a doubt)"? You consider their protest to
be offensive and unChristian, but you don't see how your sending 50,000+
missionaries out into the world to attack other Christian religions (by
preaching the Apostasy) is horribly offensive! You see how "cultish" these
Baptists appear because they engage in behavior that seems irrational, but you
can't see how irrational your own behavior is: dressing up in robes and aprons,
forming circles, and chanting together?Jesus called all such people
I worked at the Visitors Center of the Washington DC Temple in the 80s when
Sonia Johnson was excommunicated. An ERA group planned a big demonstration one
Saturday. The temple closed early, the gates were locked, etc. I went to the
roof of the VC for a ringside seat for the main event. The appointed hour
arrived as I sat with semi-bated breath and...nothing happened. No protestors,
no media - nada. I had three hours left on my shift in which to do....nothing.
I always read in the scriptures that Jesus Christ loved everyone. These people
sure aren't christian. If they were then they would be treating everybody a lot
better no matter who they are or where they are from. I know that the LDS church
is true. These people will sure be in for a very big surprise one day. They will
know that there church was not christian. Christ would not approve of people
treating people badly.
America lives. Freedoms are secure. And, yes, feed them and give them warmth.
I would go with the tuna fish casserole with some nice bread crumbs on top. Oh,
that is so goooood!!! Cold milk really sets that off too.My view as
a card carrying, God fearing Christian is that they are following their
conscience. And that they are publicity seekers. And that their hearts are
cold. Very cold.Feed'em and love'em. Then pity them after they are
gone. But do let them try the tuna casserole. It just makes your knees
weak.America is a great nation. We tolerate as we should. It is
what separates us from the intolerant nations and mob-rule. It allows us to
live in freedom and happiness.
Perhaps something akin to the whittling and whistling brigade would be in order
here. A group could surround these slugs and drown them out.
It's so nice to read these comments and see that the vast majority of them are
positive. What a wonderful spirit of love and tolerance the people of the LDS
church are showing in the face of such vitriolic hate.To those of
you whose nerves are frayed: Take time to breath and pray that you can be loving
towards the Westboro church. They are children of God, too, and he loves them
and will always work to bring them to him, just as he does with you. Though
their hatred may be sinful, you must not allow it to make you commit the sin of
not forgiving your fellow man. Let God judge. As we would admonish them to
"hate the sinner, not the sin," so must we admonish ourselves to the same
effect.To reiterate what several have said, the Westboro church is
NOT the Baptist church. We should not hold other Baptist churches responsible,
nor think ill of them for what the Westboro church does.Be cautious.
Don't incite any anger. If you are not able to control your emotions enough to
pull away if something bad happens, don't even talk to them. It's asking for
These are the people Jesus spoke of when he said many would claim "Lord, Lord,
we (Prophesied, taught,evangelized,etc,etc) in your name....."But He will
tell them to depart from Him, for He never knew them.....All we
(including both LDS and Non-LDS followers of the God of Love) can do is show how
Christ would have us behave...."Blessed are you when men..say all manner of Evil
against you.." "Love your enemies, do Good to those who persecute you." I
may not agree on many important points of doctrine,etc with the LDS faith.. but
I've learned to look for the power of Christ thru the Holy Spirit in the actions
and words of a person.. THAT's what tells me if they are my brother or sister in
Christ.. not what building they enter on Sunday...and by their words and actions
the disciples of Phelps The Antichrist show what great servants of Evil they
I just wanna say that this protest is a display of fear and we will forgive them
for they do not understand what President Gorden B Hinkley lived and died for .
He has a respect for people, he loved children, and it is sad to see "Fear" in
the souls that are truley lost do to the fact that no one would have a following
of a great leader of faith in Christ in their church like our loving President
Gorden B Hinkley. May God have great judgement and mercy for the lost Amen.
Love, Mckenzie Family
You can't say this particular group of Baptists are prejudice.....they hate
everybody. You have to laugh at them...nobody takes them seriously
Let's all of us do what President Hinckley would say we should do: As members
and visitors approach the Conference Center start singing "We Thank Thee Oh God
for a Prophet". The evil spirit cannot overtake the spirit of Christ. This
article has brought many tears to my eyes, feelings of concern for the people
who reverantly mourn...please don't bow to their wickedness...just say a prayer
and start singing. Silence says more than words...if they are ignored they will
not have accomplished what they set out to do. I hope and pray the members will
bite their tongues and have the courage and wisdom to totally ignore their
presence and words. Don't give them the satisfaction of upsetting you or your
loved ones or others at the viewing. I will being praying for all those
attending this special time. It just has to be one of peace, humility and calm.
The unfortunate thing is that a miniscule congregation can get so much coverage
because of their outrageous conduct. Perhaps it sells papers, but is it
To all of you who are not LDS: Thank you so much for your Christ-like attitude,
humanity, and support. It is never more evident that we are all children and
servants of God than when we stand together to support Christ's example despite
our theological disagreements. We love you, and we appreciate your willingness
to let us know that you love us as well. God blesses all who try to follow His
teachings, no matter their faith.To those who have been offended by
church members: It is NEVER our place to say who is going to heaven and who is
going to hell. Church members who treat you poorly because you are different
from us are horribly in error. Understand that we see God's teachings as a
means of judging for ourselves what we should and shouldn't do, as well as what
we should and shouldn't expose ourselves to. We are never supposed to look down
on others. If we do, our judgements are unrighteous, and we are no better than
that which we oppose. Nevertheless, we have the responsibility to protect
ourselves from that which we see as evil. But I'm truly sorry if we have been
This group is so weird! I looked at their website, and firstly, it sounds like a
10 year old made up their website name. Then I looked and they actually have a
petition schedule. All the different events they will protest for the next few
The modern-day Pharisees are at work. That this Baptist group doesn't recognize
the parallel betwen their ancient counterparts and themselves is astonishing.
It'd be flippin great if weather was very bad and their flights from Kansas to
Utah got grounded. Or delayed till AFTER the funeral.Or if we had a
storm like Mondays. Unless they are VERY VERY stubborn, they'll not stand
outside for too long.
This guy is quite mad. His church is made up of his many children (all of whom
were brutalized as children) and all seem to have inherited the rage gene. he
wants attention - period. I actually met him once and he reminded me of
something out of a Stephen King/ Stanley Kubrick nightmare. However, he has
done gays a tremendous and much needed favor over the years. People take one
look at him and think - well, I don't want to be like that - and begin to look
at their gay brothers and sisters with compassion. Sort of a backwards way of
creating compassion. Reacting to him at all, reporting on him at all - well
that's what he wants. The dude has the scariest eyes I have ever seen by the
way. We all have scary mad people in our religious traditions, but he does seem
to be over representing the Baptists. Don't know a single Baptist who agrees
with him even when they might be very uncomfortable with homosexuality. Sounds
as if the LDS prophet went to the side of compassion. Fred can't.
Wonder if Huckabee will be with them?
I cannot believe the hate and the pathetic lengths at which people will go to
hurt others. I am appalled that they are planning to protest the Prophet's
funeral, but what else is to be expected from those who would protest a
soldier's funeral. They care nothing for the hurt they cause others, and I
believe Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ and President Hinckley are all weeping for
them as they look down upon us all. Let's make them proud of the members of
THEIR church by behaving the way they would want.
I am very saddened by these people who think it is a good thing to protest a
person's passing....I hope and pray that they well be touched by God standing
thier Saturday protesting and then realize what President Hinkley really meant
to all of us who are Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
This is so unfortunate but it is illustrative of the world in which we live and
one that President Hinkley understood so well. I'm confident that we will all
handle this unfortunate expression of the First Amendment (which I am so
grateful for) as President Hinkley would counsel us to. He would encourage us to
rise above it....I love this great Prophet!!!
It saddens me greatly that our forefathers paid the prices they did for
religious freedom. Here today, a time of mourning, they are protesting a man
who was recognized by the very leader of this Country for the good President
Hinckley did. He recieved the highest honor given to a civilian.Why are
the members still today hounded like Joseph Smith was in the Churches first
years if not for fear itself.
I was at the Joseph Smith farm years ago in Palmyra while protesters were lining
up and down the path to the Sacred Grove. It was extremely hot and humid, and a
little (mature) sister missionary came out of the Smith home with cold lemonade
and served them. When we returned from the grove they were gone. There's
probably a lot a ways to handle this, but I know if done in anger or hatred it
won't work. Many years ago the Savior walked to His death among protesters,
whom He offered forgiveness. I believe GBH is OK with the MILLIONS who will
honor himnot worried about the few who wont.
you know...there's an abandoned commune site in Guyana that would be a great
place for the Westboro Baptist congregation to live....
Isn't anything sacred anymore? For goodness sakes! I had to get over the SHOCK
of reading a protest will take place at our dear beloved Prophet's funeral. On
the other, I can imagine President Hinckley counseling us to BE KIND to the very
end. God bless our Prophet dear.
Re: the First Amendment -- Canada doesn't have the First Amendment, and it
manages mostly fine.The freedoms that the First Amendment protects
are only as safe as they are cherished by the American people. Unless they are
so cherished, the First Amendment is no more than ink and rotten parchment,
which third-rate lawyer could interpret into insignificance. (Just as a lot of
second-rate lawyers are trying to do to the Second Amendment.) The
First Amendment will be cherished as long as it is understood as protecting what
Americans want protected -- that is, the genuine substance of free expression.
When it becomes seen as something that allows the restriction of core political
speech (as the McCain-Feingold "campaign finance reform" does), while shielding
the right of pornographers to profit and Fred Phelps to be a [bleep], I
fear we may start to lose sight of just what a treasure the real First Amendment
is.Even if we lose it, though, we'll be no worse than Canada, for
whatever that's worth.
How UN-Christlike, disrespectful,and UN-Christian!! It is because of people like
this and believing the falseness of what they do that the gospel MUST be
preached to ALL the nations! May God forgive these poor misled people.
I'm certainly hopeful this church will change it's mind - but let's step back
and think about it.What would President Hinckley say about this
protest and how we should handle it?Would he approve us villifying
other children of God? would he suggest we tear then down and hate them?I think that to truly honor our dear Prophet, we can be kind, gentle,
loving and above all, Christian about this issue. How many times has he chided
us as the Lord's people for treating others with anything other than love and
respect as fellow children of God?
President Hinckley HAS spoken to us about this:"I pray that each of
us will be a little more kind, a little more thoughtful, a little more
courteous. I pray that we will keep our tongues in check and not let anger
prompt words which we would later regret. I pray that we may have the strength
and the will to turn the other cheek, to walk the extra mile in lifting up the
feeble knees of those in distress." (Gordon B. Hinckley, Let Us Live the Gospel
More Fully, Liahona, Nov 2003, 1023)I dont like bigotry. I dont like
hate. They are so incompatible with the spirit of the gospel and the teachings
of the Lord."I like peace. I like friendship. I like mutual respect.
As we have these things, I dont think that is going to slow down the growth of
the Churchit may enhance it. I believe that we can do much, and I think we are
doing much. I think we are making very substantial headway (interview with
Deseret News, 25 Feb. 2000).
There are defining moments in everyone's lives. Hopefully the protesters will
have one Saturday. May Pres. Hinckley's family have peace at this time.
And Pres. Monson have all of our prayers.
It saddens me to think that another religion would attack a leader of another
church. They have a choice to pick how they want to worship. Let LDS members
mourn and remember such a fine leader in a way that he should be remembered.
Love and pity people who think this is a good way to change anyone's mind about
anything. I will be wearing duct tape over my mouth and earplugs in my ears. Not
What a classless act. This is a day for people who truly cared for the Prophet
to celebrate his wonderful life. There are many who care for and love this man
greatly including myself. He was the perfect role model and if I can be one
percent of the man he has become, I will have lived an amazing life with much
happiness. Now there is only one individual or spiritual force which would love
to see this uproar take place and that is Satan who is the father of all lies.
He wants altercations and contention among the children of men at all times.
When people argue or poke fun over sacred issues in life, it just creates a very
negative sentiment and that is not the spirit of Christ nor will it ever be.
This will have no effect on our Church. People of this caliber did not stop the
Prophet Joseph, Brigham Young, John Taylor etc. I find it easy to ignore
ignorance. The Church will keep moving forward.
What a bunch of ninnies. Classless, stupid, hopeless ninnies. Who do they
think they are going to "sway" with a demonstration at a funeral?Some Guy from Out West is right. I was thinking more along the lines of water
balloons, but i believe his way is more "Hinckley"like.
Maybe we should show how real Christians (Saints) behave and invite them to
I'm am so thankful I was raised believing in free agency. Our biggest
blessing is knowing that Our Heavenly Father is all about love and peace who put
each of us here to become the best we are capable of becoming. I'm sure that
they don't know of a Loving Heavenly Father and with all they do to promote hate
guess they don't have time to work on becoming the best person they can. It
makes me realize how important it is for us to always set a good and positive
example in our daily lives.
Remember the lessons of Ether: If the Baptists have not charity, it matters not
to you.Take some extra scarves, gloves, hats, and coats. Join them
in the protest and make some hot chocolate to keep them warm -- not to support
them in their anger, but to show them what you think a Christian is.Can you be so Christian?Being Christian doesn't mean having the
right book on your table. It's what you do with your life.
People who cannot control their anger and who seek vengeance constantly on
others are not Christs followers. It doesnt take intelligence for a person to
start riots, protests and hostilities. I believe it is a lower form of human
existence to behave in this kind of matter. People who follow the Savior do not
participles in such bad behavior.
I sorrow for these people. Not because they don't belong to the LDS church, but
because they live their lives filled with so much hatred for their fellow man.
The people of God have suffered persecution from the beginning of time, and
will till we return to our Father in Heaven. We can't expect Satan to not try to
disrupt the services of this great man. He always tries to drive the Spirit of
God out of our hearts. He cannot unless we let him. President Hinckley is a
prophet of God and nothing these protestors do will change that. Follow the
example of our great leader. Smile at everyone you see, it is contagious. Let
love lead the way.
God doesn't Hate 1 John verses 7-8 7 Beloved, let
us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of
God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is
I find it hard to believe that there is anything negative that can be said about
President Hinckley. He was such an amazing influence and example to all of us
that I feel sorry for those that do not love him! I know he was called of God,
and I will miss him greatly! Protest all you want, it doesn't matter, it never
will! Like Elder Maxwell once said, "If in the end you haven't chosen Jesus
Christ, it will make no difference what you chose instead." I testify to you all
that President Hinckley is now in the presence of the Savior, continuing his
mission. We thank thee o God for our Prophet!
You are all right. It is a disgusting show of human character for this group to
be acting out in such a way.Although everyone is entitled to their opinion of
things, no grieving person should be subject to this. I am not LDS. I am not
religious. I am, however, a concerned citizen of this state and I need to put my
foot down an say, however cliche it may be, "Not in my city!" Don't worry. The
angels will be there to protect the world from hate. Look for us.
You know the Babtist can say all they want but all of us LDS Church members know
the truth. That is what I will always remember about President Hinckley. He was
our leader and our Prophet, who made us all feel the love and devotion he
brought to all of us, whether we were born LDS or found our callings thru him.
He will always be my prophet and nobody can ever change this for myself or my
family. As for the protesters let
them do and say what they want, we all know what is true and I know I owe all of
this to our prophet PRESIDENT HINCKLEY. If I could be as good a member as he is
my life would be perfect, but Im still working on this and I know I will be
there to see my prophet when I join them. Maybe someday the baptists will
learn that protesting does not get you very far HATRED is a strong word and
heavenly father will be they first to say so.GOD BLESS PRESIDENT HINCKLEY AND
I have found that when you are tearing others down you are not growing
yourself. That is why we should not confront them because when we do we become
like them. President Hinkley was truly a great prophet and leader for our time.
He would want us to stand a little taller, be kinder and love all people even
when they turn on us.
The very fact that you are standing in front of a group of people deeply moved
by the loss of a loved one and are desirous to openly attack their religious
leader shows how much your religion is truly off on what it means to be a
Christian and true followers of Christ. Afterall, did not Christ say something
about "mourning with those who mourn, and comforting those that stand in need of
You all need some serious help! Do other church's have this going on? NO.. Then
why do we? We don't bother anybody, President Hinkley is a good honest man and I
totally respect him and you need to mind your own business. Instead of tearing
other people down why don't you work on your faults and try to improve
yourselves. Why are you blaming others, the only person to blame is yourself for
your own happiness. Mind your own business and focus on yourselves rather then
other people. The reason you are protesting is because deep down you know The
church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the true church!
I find it interesting that there is not a baptist church organization anywhere
in the country that accepts Westbro Baptist Church as a member. They give all
churches a bad name. Since there are many good people that belong to baptist
church's typically, I would think that this "church", which is just a front for
a hate group, is an embarrassment to all baptists.I for one am
offended that Westbro Baptist Church exists, and are showing up for another
funeral. I just hope anyone that thinks this is typical of other baptists
realize it is not. Even Huckabee wouldn't stoop this low.
They must have something more worthwhile to do with their time... I wish I
understood what went through the heads' of these people - protesting at the
funeral of a man that epitomized goodness and love. President Hinckley would
show compassion to all and so should we, regardless of what they say or do.
We thank thee oh God for a prophet... to guide us in these latter days!
President Hinckley was and always will be a wonderful man. May his heavenly
reunion be wonderful.I will miss you!
Isn't it amazing that these people are so well known? I myself don't agree with
what Hinckley has had to say in the past, but I would never in a million years
pull the antics that these people do. I don't believe in hell, but I wish I did
when it comes to these lunatics.
Lets keep this tiny group of ignorants kept apart from and not mistaken for
being "apart of" the mainstream faith of Baptists. I for one know first
hand as a Saint living years in Augusta Georgia that the Baptist church is
abundant with good hearted, hard working Christians doing the best they
can..just as we are. I bet you if we all remembered to earnestly
pray for these lost brothers and sisters in our evening prayers, the Lord would
soften their hearts.(or perhaps keep them home with the flu)
If we took just one flower out of the bouquet we brought to lay in rememberence
of our dear Prophet and handed it to one of these protesters, they could feel
what Christian LOVE truly feels like. That is one feeling they seem to
completely lack. I believe That sort of show of brotherly love would open
the door for the Holy Ghost to touch their hearts. I don't believe these
"other sheep" were brought up with the Spirit in their homes or their hearts, so
how could anyone expect them to know how to show it to others?LETS
HELP THEM TO START TO BREAK THAT VICIOUS CYCLE.
I think it is sad that people would do such a thing. Especially those who say
they believe and follow Christ, our Savior and Lord. I know Christ would want
all of us to respect others, he talked to Samaritans, when other would not. But
us as member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, need to
remember to Stand a Littler taller (SALT) and still love them. Jesus forgave
those who crucified him, he even had mockers and "protesters" when he died.
President Hinckely was the prophet that i grew up with, and I will dearly miss
him. But the work will go forth. We do thank God for a Prophet!!!
how can someone call themselves "Christian" is they criticize the the very
people who believe in the same principles as them? through this we see a real
issue of ignorance and intolerance for discrimination against religions. Yes, it
is beautiful that we are free to our own religion, i know that when President
Hinckley's funeral takes place, that these people will feel the spirit, and that
they'll be tormented by their own guilt!
Great post! I too would love to see the picture of LDS serving these people in
a Christlike way while they practice their version of Christianity. I believe you can judge the character of a man (and a church) by his friends
and his enemies. I believe that I would people who are so consumed with hate
protesting President Hinckley rather than mourning his loss, as the rest of us
do.Who finances this group, anyway? Do they have jobs?
I find this a little amusing. To be protested because we're not "anti-gay"
enough. Tell that to the groups who protested because we're too strict on gay
matters. Yes, we should ignore them. And stay tolerant of others' beliefs,
whatever they are. I will follow the 13th Article of Faith, and do good to all
Being LDS in the Southeast we deal with these types of people on a daily basis.
It is plainly obvious that they do not subscribe to the basic teachings of Jesus
Christ. How sad for them. I appreciate all good people no matter where they
attend church. President Hinckley was a good human being who left this world a
better place. Isn't that the goal for all of us?
It's REALLY stretching the definition for these people to call themselves
Christians. Wouldn't it be interesting if the earth opened up and swallowed
them during their protest?
God bless you, President Hinckley. We will miss you.
The very fact the Baptist church uses such a solemn event as the funeral of ANY
HUMAN BEING let alone a very respected LDS leader as a opportunity to protest
ANYTHING tells me they lack world any compassion for their fellowman.
The road to "Outer Darkness" begins with the loss of Inner Light and Truth. I
am so grateful to President Hinckley for letting his light shine forth in all
the world and feel such sorrow for the Dark Road these people are traveling.
There can be no joy in their morning nor will their be honor in their going.
President Hinckley surely has the greatest of both!
Fighting to protect marriage is not the same as hating gays. If you actually
took the time to learn the LDS teachings on the subject of homosexuality you
would find the church teaches compassion and love toward everyone, regardless
what their words or actions are. We consider homosexual behavior a sin, and the
church does not condone it. We believe marriage is a divine institution,
defined as the union between a man and a woman. Period. We also believe that
EVERYONE who walks the earth is a son or daughter of God, and as such deserves
our love and respect.Love the sinner but hate the sin. Read the
Bible - that's what Christ taught, and what we should all be following.
I am truly sorry that you have experienced judgment and scorn from LDS members.
That should never happen. That is NOT how we are taught to behave towards
others. However, I have seen that attitude among members of our church. I have
also seen that among almost every other group that happens to hold a majority in
any setting - LDS in Utah, whites in affluent areas, African-Americans in DC,
men in some companies, women in others... There is no end to the examples. It
is especially pronounced among people who at one time were persecuted - they get
a little room and power and have to flex that.Please remember that
we are taught in the church, and I am teaching in my home, that all of us are
brothers and sisters, and all should be treated with the respect and esteem due
all the sons and daughters of God.
I hope these people are not representive of the Baptist church.....How sad
...They should be using there time and energy to help others..
At first I was upset, but after reading the posts I finally get it. They do
this kind of stuff to get people like me upset, do something stupid and get in
trouble. They don't really care about you, me President Hinckley, LDS, other
Baptists, or whatever. They will be here for as much publicity as they can get
and then they move on to their next protest. As much as I would like to handle
this the old fashion way, that is exactly what they want. I finally get it.
You bring up some good points, but you miss some as well.True, the
only people who can know beyond a shadow of a doubt are those who have spoken
with Christ face to face. The rest of us have to rely on faith. I have heard
many at the pulpit say they know. I just remind myself that this is an
expression of extreme faith, but perhaps a poor choice of words. I do believe
there are a few on the earth today who have seen Christ, but they won't say
this. It is too sacred an experience, and would just give others another reason
to bash the church.I'm sorry you feel that missionaries are
offensive. In the New Testament, the apostles talked about a coming apostasy.
All Christians believe there was one as foretold, we LDS just believe it was
complete, while the rest of the Christian world does not. These young people
are sent out to testify of the Gospel, not to attack anyone. Look closely at
our teachings, and you will find far more common ground than opposing
viewpoints.BTW, hypocrites preach that which they know to be false.
We believe we preach the truth.
but now I'm reminded that they are doing this for sport. I only hope their
"sport" doesn't hurt impressionistic children who witness their insensitivity
and hate. If so, it's a great teaching opportunity for parents. I hope parents
teach chldren to not return hate for hate. There is too much of that in the
world. Best to teach children that these poor people haven't been touched by the
spirit yet and hopefully they will sometime. Let's prove the demonstrators wrong
by our Christlike actions, taking the high road and being courteous to them, or
at the very least, not feeding their frenzy with contentious words ourselves.
Why do the people of the Baptist faith not disalign their church from this
radical group? I think Baptists are above these who call themselves Baptists..
gostaria de dizer a todos que cristo vivi e que ele sempre chamou profetas e que
o presidente hinckler um profeta de deus,alguns pecadores acham que falando mau
de um servo de deus vai aliviar seu sentimento de culpa o remedio est em cristo
e no nas criticas e manifestaes desejo a todos que sigamos o exemplo de cristo e
nosso amado profeta.
If your faith is strong and your beliefs are true..... you are a fast moving
train. People throwing pebbles at you will not derail you. We have the power to
ignore hateful thoughts thrown at us by very hateful people. Us LDS members get
accused of not being Christian.......What this Baptist church is doing,
disrespecting a beloved sweet gentle man on the day of rest, is sick. Children
will be there, his grandchildren, greatgrandchildren etc etc. It is sad, even
dead this wonderful men gets beaten down.... i am SURE he is up there with his
sweet little wife smiling down and giving us stegnth to ignore the hatred and
stand strong. Shame on you for doing this. I agree, people should stand right
next to them singing hymns of praise. If they move, then they get followed with
even louder singing. Mute them out, walk on by, and let them tear their
salvation to shreds.
Mike Gallagher offered them air time to keep them away from the funeral of the
Amish girls. Perhaps a similar arrangement could be made. I would rather have
the ability to turn off my radio than to have to walk past them on the way to a
Yep, a little hot chocolate will do the trick, it will show them that in spite
of their arrogance and stupidity, that we love them anyway.And
besides, the bit of Ex-Lax we slip into the hot chocolate will help make them
not so full of what they are so full of.It's definitely a win-win
All I can say us unbelievable. If my baptist friends knew what these guys were
doing, they would be very ashamed and disgusted!
With regard to the vitriolic protesters:Jude 1:10--"But these speak
evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute
beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves."Alma 14:11 "And
[the Lord] doth suffer them that they may do this thing . . . according
to the hardness of their hearts, that the judgments which he shall exercise upon
them in his wrath may be just; and the blood of the innocent shall stand as a
witness against them, yea, and cry mightily against them at the last day."
Not even appropriate, or respectful of human life. It's wrong they would want to
protest Heath Ledger and it's wrong they would protest President Hinckley. At
least they believe in equal opportunity. Haha.
There will be 30,000 people at Temple square and millions more around the world
who will gather to honor President Hinckley. The forces of good are winning.
The Westboro Baptists and so many other churches that preach hatred in this
season when a Mormon runs for US president are losers, in every sense of that
Oops, I meant "impressionable children". That word "impressionistic" didn't seem
right but I punched the add comment key anyway. I think you all knew what I
Deny them the permit.
The Kansas based hicks are at it again.
As hard as it's going to be to not practice a little "laying on of hands" with
these protesters we need to refrain. What would President Hinckley do? He'd
probably walk up, wish them a good morning and say, "Why don't you put those
posters down, bring all the good you've got in your heart (albeit nearly
nothing) and see if we can't add to it." I wish the city would do like Augusta
did with Martha Burke's protest at the Masters. She was allowed to protest
about 1500 feet away from the golf course. Nobody even saw her.
to matt johnson's, paster of a SLC Baptist Church.Thank you for pointing
out that this particular Baptist group is not mainstream baptist, and actually a
splinter group. They are just calling themselve's baptist so baptists loose
crediblity.and to all you lucky people who get to go to the
funeral in person, IGNORE them and SING while waiting. i'd recomment not only
we thank they o god for a prophet it, but We Believe in Christ, Jesus Said Love
Everyone.... it is true, if anyone contronts or talks to them, they won.
let's honor hinckley.
These people that will be protesting are local members of this hatemongering
church. I have seen them before.
I BEG the press to ignore these people. Please do not give them a voice. DO
NOT put a microphone in front of their faces and allow them to desecrate the
name of such a great man. I propose that the public boycott any news program or
newspaper that gives them a minute of air time or a centimeter of newsprint. We
have a voice also. Our voice will be heard in the news programs we choose to
watch and the papers we choose to buy. LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD!
Freedom of speach is one of our greatest liberties. And why complain the church
sends missionarys around the world to canvass and convince people how to live a
mormon existance and now the lord has delivered prospects to you. Show your
salesmanship and convert them to your side. I don't see where it will make them
much worse off.
Interesting that a supposedly Christian church is exploiting the rights we have
as Americans to use the language and tactics of hate in an effort to soil the
funeral of a man who preached a message of love. President Hinckley always
shared a message of God's love for ALL of his children. It's sad to see someone
trying to ruin a farewell to him with such a hateful and disgusting action. If you've ever seen this group on the news, you'd know they come across
as hillbillys from some really stupid, low budget horror movie. The good thing
is that they are so ridiculous that they are not worth acknowledging. It's best
just to ignore their hateful foolishness.
Phelps is a coward, Lead by example and show up to your own rally... I can't
wait till he is 6 feet under. He won't even get the pleasure or Flattery of
picketing... This is great! Im not even mormon but guess what I do know Pres.
Gordy was an excellent leader and top dog Christian. Maybe I will go to
church... Someone send me the Missionaries... I'm a military member serving in
the Air Force... I would love to see someone disrespect one of my brothers in
arms funeral... Talk about war...
I'm embrassed for the Baptist following!
I am not an active member, but I must say that I am impressed with the way most
of the devout are taking this news. Instead of pure anger at the seemingly
direspectful protest, they are loving about it, even saying they deserve our
love and prayers. Eventhough I am disappointed with up-coming protest against a
man I love and respect, I am grateful to see how beautiful most of the attitudes
about it are. You are all sweet and beautiful people indeed.
Just funny how if anything has The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints
name on it or in it, it's a audiomatic drawn to. What would happen if this was
done at their church? They wouldn't be too thrilled now would they? Why can't
you so called baptist just live your religion to the fulliest and leave all the
other religions alone. Besides that this is a time of mourning for a prophet who
was amazing not only to the LDS religion but to those who weren't even a member.
This man doesn't deserve any disrespect what so ever. Is all you are doing is
making a fool out of your own self. How do you think that looks protesting at a
funeral?? COME ON!!!!
the only thing that came to mind while reading all the comments was What Would
Jesus Do.Just ignore their comments, do what the Lord would do which
is give them love and respect. Let's honor our president. I'm sure President
Hinckley would have done the same. I'm grateful to know that President Hinckley
was a true prophet of God.Always respect others that's what
President Hinckley used to say. Let's honor him by turning the other check.
Definitely things that make you go Hhhhmmmmm. I feel so sorry for these people.
How can you have so much hate in your heart and be totally unaware of how you
are being manipulated by Satan? However, I'm sure our dear Pres. Hinckley would
be the first person to extend a friendly hand to them, wouldn't he? It would be
very difficult for me to, I guess, because I haven't yet reached that level of
love yet! Will one day I hope and I'm working on it! Much love to you all from
London, England Saints.
It is terrible to witness all the finger pointing, anger and hate demostrated by
my Mormon brothers and sisters, you sound worse than those you are railing
against. Go home and read your scriptures and work to bring light into the
world. Our prophets will come and go, but our example will live on forever.
Just a suggestion that has worked very effectively in other towns. Those who
can should take every effort possible to create a HUMAN WALL to shield this
group from those who would like to attend the funeral of this great man. I
would encourage you all to sing hymns as well to drown out any antagonizing
retoric that these insensitive folks will mosy likely spew forth.
It was a shock to attend conference a few years ago and see protestors. At
first I was offended but then you mostly feel sorry for them. They were really
in our face. What a glaring difference with the spirit they had and what we felt
in conference. We always have watched conference by satelite and had no idea
people had to deal with this right out side the conference center. It made for
great discussion with our children who had never seen anything like this before.
Quite an eye opener. Thanks for the warning from the press. Now we can just
feel sorry for them. We love and will miss our beloved Prophet. I can't be sad
as I imagine his reunion with his beloved wife and loved ones!
Extreme Protest Makeover! I don't know if traffic will be stopped, probably,
but with cell phones a signal could be sent for "move that bus!" right in from
of the protesters.But then really what would President Hinckley do?
It's important to remain calm and treat these losers with the respect they won't
give us, or our prophet. The world will be watching... and maybe one of their
children will leave and join the Church after sneaking away from the group and
visiting Temple Square... you never can tell. Kill them with kindness. "Whose funeral would Jesus picket?"
jmdspk, you are absolutely right! There is much more than hate involved. Money
is the root! Yes, be kind and even love these "enemies" but keep your
distance! And warn others to not get caught in their lair.
When our daughter was killed in a car accident a little over a year ago in a
small rural town in Southwest Washington, the whole community surrounded our
family with love and support. Ministers from several Christian churches spoke
at assemblies and gatherings of students at the high school and even attended
services at the LDS Stake Center. People have told me that the unfortunate
event provided an opportunity for our community to "come together" in a way we
had not previously. My family will NEVER forget the true Christian love and
spirit shared and expressed especially by those not of our faith. This group that calls themselves Christians is misguided to say the least.
They think they are following Christ's example though I do not recall Christ
teaching his disciples to use this tactic in sharing the gospel. I'm confident those that attend the funeral services will follow Christ's
example and the teachings of the prophet and turn the other cheek and walk away
from these protestors. I also hope that people will be supportive to those that
are mourning and allow your emotions to be filled with love and not anger. Don
in Brush Prairie, WA
I can't recall the 1st or the last time I ever heard a story about members of
the LDS faith protesting another's religeon or faith. It's simply not done.
Shame on those who abuse the 1st amendment in the name of God. "let he who is
with out sin" and all that.
Wouldn't it be great if Saturday the members of all the non LDS churches in the
SLC area came out and stood together in unity with the LDS church while these
people are here. Maybe if this hate group saw that SLC is strong and united -
even between faiths they might go away. Just a thought.
Prophetic Passing I imagine he's running to Marjorie now,Yes,
running, not waving his cane.I see him embracing his father and motherWhile they keep repeating his name. I see him now meeting his
forebears,Brother Brigham and Joseph are there.Sweet reunion of
prophets, united by serviceThat only such noble men share. I
see him embraced by the SaviorWhile Father says, "Good and well done.So faithful in stalwart endurance, I welcomeMy noble, most excellent
son." I then hear the ripples of laughterAs he says the
reception's just fine,But he hopes that he'll get an assignment or twoSince there's no need to waste any time. I can hear his clear
voice in the stillnessAt the close of this sweet Sabbath day,Have
faith and move forward there's work to be done.President Hinckley would
want it that way. Anna M. MolgardJanuary 27, 2008
This Matt Johnson, Pastor of a baptist church in SLC. Jenny mentioned something
that I think can be a misunderstanding. Unlike the LDS religion, most "baptist"
churches (especially in SLC) are "baptist" because of what they believe, not
because of an organization. Jenny mentioned that some in my congregations were
rude to her family. We don't actually have ties with other baptist churches. I
am only able to speak to the independent church that I lead. It is the same as
the LDS president having no say as to what Warren Jeff's clan does. Most
baptist churches in the West have little if any association with one another. I
can assure you rude "baptists" are not a part of my congregation. I preach
Truth, but I preach it with meekness and fear, not arrogance and strife. I hate
the work of Westboro, because they profane the glory of God.
That's all I can say, these guys are the biggest losers, don't they have
anything better to do? Get a freaking life!
These guys who protest the Mormon Church are NOT CHRISTIANS! True Christians
would not do this. They do not practice Christ like behavior. They follow Satan
and are very full of HATE! God help their very poor souls.
many a mormon can look in the mirror and witness their own actions. Funny how
they have only looked one way until someonelse reveals their own ugliness.
Organized religion is the cause of so much hatred. Believe in your heart and
allow others also the same.
Too bad it's the middle of winter. Whenever there is a "protest" from this
group, motorcycle groups attended the funerals armed with American flags to show
the families of the fallen soliders that their loss is not forgotten or in vain
like this group would led them to believe. I would think it would be kind of
cool to see a bunch of men and women with their Harley-Davidson motorcycles
along the funeral route hiding the "protesters" with American flags. I think
President Hinckley would have gotten a kick out of that! :)
jr is more than a little twisted. You would fit in well with the Hillsboro
As LDS we practice our free speech in many ways to proclaim our belief. Those
who do not agree with us have the right to express that as well. Anti-Mormon
signs near the conference center during General Conference are no more intrusive
or offensive than missionaries knocking on doors asking to come into someone's
home to proclaim the truth about the Church is to some. BUT - this
kind of protest at funerals goes so far beyond human decency that its hard to
imagine. This group is not just an anti-Mormon group. They will target
anything and anyone who is not as radical as they are - which is basically
everyone but them. There brand of Christianity and biblical interpretation is so
extreme that they should not even be labeled a religion. They intentionally
target the most emotional and personal moment many humans experience - a
funeral. Even many of the most hard core first ammendment advocates have a hard
time justifiying their brand of "free speech". And I would assume even the most
die hard anti-Mormon would find their targeting of the Prophet's funeral an
unacceptable place to express disagreement with the Church.
I am confident that no-one will read this message, as it will be apparently
number 301. Nonetheless, I express my comfort in the gospel of Jesus Christ, my
testimony that He has given His life for ALL mankind, including those who
despise or displease Him. Were it possible, I would hope that all people
everywhere could feel the strength that comes from even our most meager attempts
at true faith, hope, and charity.From my perspective, President
Gordon B. Hinckley demonstrated that as the world sinks into despair and
destruction--the bar, for all of us, has indeed been raised. "All of us would
do well to study the life of the Master and try to emulate His words and
doings." I believe these are not just nice words. He lived his life this
way.These are words of a prophet. What disagreement can there be in
this counsel? In this time of somber reflection, I hope to make a better
attempt each day, as I get up each time I fall, and as I try just one more time.
Please be careful when dealing with this group. They tried to come to Santee,
California when their was a school shooting. Their specific goals are to
provoke an assult. They are lawyers who want to sue you. That is how they make
money. They will take you for everything you own. They also went to Columbine
after their shooting. They look for situations where emotions are running high
and they add fuel to the fire. They are evil.. don't fall into their trap.
I agree with the many who have said to ignore those on the street. President
Hinkley would. He is the man who preached tolerance to other faiths and
backgrounds. This group is hiding behing the name "christian" group. It is the
same excuse to make a scene and act inappropriate in any manner that men/women
have done for centuries acting in the name of "christianity." This
small group is a group who represent a small minority who enjoy the cameras.
President Hinkley was a wonderful man who will be missed. He did as the other
prophets did before him...preach of Christ. His legacy will never be that he
preached of himself and proclaimed himself the leader of the church. He made it
known to all nations, kindreds, and people that Jesus Christ stands at the head
of the church and it is through him that all things are administered. Ignore those who profess otherwise but respect their right to be wrong.
13 million versus 200!!!!! What a shameful pitiful sight they will make. A
pity to paint all Baptists with the same pathetic brush as this so called
Christian group. As LDS we get upset when people think we are the same as all
the apostate "Mormon" groups out there. As three famous penguins said on
the movie "Madagascar." JUST SMILE AND WAVE BOYS.....!!!President
Hinckley truely was a GREAT human being. His legacy will live on.
Do not be alarmed by the protesting of the Westboro Church. They have been to
Tennessee and protested at funerals for some of our fallen soldiers. Therefore
these people know nothing about our Heavenly Father. The Lord will deal with
that "church" and those people. President Hinckley would not want us to be angry
but to pray for them that the light of Heavenly Father's love will someday reach
the hearts of those who protest. "Father forgive them,for they know not what
they do.." I am very proud to be LDS and not Baptist..
The members in Salt Lake City need to be kind and ignore these people and give
them no reason for law suits or media publicity. They are trying to make the
members mad and then they will sue them and the city and try to get media
publicity out of it all.
im not a member of the LDS faith, but i have great respect for the work that
president hinckly did. if you would like i will voulenteer myself to irritate
the protesters so that president hincklys funneral can go on in peace.
As a Texan and long time Latter Day Saint, I think we should pray for these
people and hope they see the error of the hate they are spredding. We love
President Hinckley and he will be greatly missed. We need to follow the example
of our Savior Jesus Christ and treat these people accordingly.
Maybe some people could deliver some Huckabee signs to this group. I'm sure
they wouldn't mind carrying them during their protest. It would make such a
nice picture, especially if it got picked up by the National news.
Just laugh at these people who waste their money to come here and freeze in our
best winter in recent memory to spread a 'message' to blind eyes and deaf ears.
They're making fools of themselves. Just as you would discipline a
tantrum-throwing child by quietly refusing to acquiesce, turn your face from
these preachers of hate.
I think it would be great if a couple of UTA buses just happened to breakdown
right on the corner where these folks will be. One bus heading East on North
Temple and one bus heading North on State. Just pull the buses right up to the
curb and yank the ingintion wiring out of them. This plan has merit, somebody
call UTA and arrange for the breakdowns.
One more reason to see biggots for what they are. Just like Huck for staying in
the election. They hate Mormons and envy Mormons success.
I'm amazed that these people call themselves Christians and they think Mormons
aren't. I think these people are really rednecks pretending to be Christians. I
can't imagine that the Savior would even think of doing something like this even
if he didn't approve of someone's behavior. The best thing to do, though, is to
just ignore them and let them make fools of themselves.
When people do things that are hurtful or perceived offensive I try to remember
2 Timothy: 24-26. "And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle
unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose
themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging
of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the
devil, who are taken captive by him at his will." All we really need to do is be
an example of the truth to these people. The Lord knows what they need in their
lives to come to a knowledge of the truthfulness of this gospel. We can do our
part by exercising charity even when we might not want to. True charity is
unconditional- a challenge for all of us.
It's painful to know that the enemie will be there always bothering, but we
don't have to get worried because God always will bless the people who follow
him. If that "church" wants to say something in that way is because they are not
the true church and they have to shout to say something because they are with
the devil because "..he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is
of the devil, who is the father of contention..." (3 Nephi 11:29).But we
have to remaind that they are our brothers and we have to love them. Just don't
care about them.Greets from Chile
I think that the best thing is just to think "What would Gordon B Hinckley Do?"
He was an amazing man. It is in the lords hands and he will not let anything
happen that would hurt us. If anything we will be strengthened. I can't even
express how grateful I am To be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
Day Saints. Gordon B Hinckley was a true prophet of God and he did so many
amazing things. How could you not believe it?
I wanted to make a post but as I typed it in, I decided to take the high-road
and I will not post it. But, just so you know I really had a post, I thought I
would put it in this post. Just so you know that I really had a post."blah... blah... blah, blah... blah,...blah"
To all those attending the funeral - just act like the man whose funeral you are
attending. They've come to get a rise out of everyone and gain attention.
I'm sure that Pres. Hinckley experienced many protesters at every temple
dedication he attended. I'm sure their antics would be nothing unanticipated or
new to the prophet. The work simply rolls forward!
Dittos to Pastor Johnson, Dwight S. Adams, and Paulin MD. to Hate is
HateLet he w/out sin cast the first stone. We all werecreated from
God's image. how fortunate to be given a body to be 'tried and tested". It
will be by "ourfruits" that we will be judged. In remembering thislet's live each day and give thanks for we wil neverbe able to live that
day again. Lets not choose to be "offended or to offend others". After all
"Lovethe lord God With all the heart" and "Love thy neighbor". These are
truely the latter days andhere in California we have been living with this
revelation for many years as the numbers of LDSmembers are not the size of
the state of Utah. Having said that we are a "blessed" people but arein
no way better than non members. Actually we havea higher standard to
maintain as we "know the truth"so as bearers of this truth we'll be judged
accordingly!!!!!!!!!! Let them protest; just give themno fuel to quel their
This church group is really gonna protest at temple square saying that Hinkley
was a false prophet? Good luck, thats like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
This is just a re-affirmation of the truthfulness of a gospel, based on becoming
more Christlike and living as Christ did, not judging, avoiding contention and
loving unconditonally. President Hinckley was a wonderful advocate of
everything godly and beautiful. I wish these people could belong to a faith that
instills values and respect and then perhaps they would think twice about trying
to tarnish what is in effect a very personal event for the family of our dear
Prophet and would have the moral decency to say 'This is NOT the place'.
You must live WAY out west--The Relief Society comforts those who mourn, not
those who protest--nice try though, interesting twist on "Charity Never Faileth"
Since their real purpose is to gain attention, the best thing to do (as
suggested in the article) is to quietly ignore them.
if organized religion is the cause of so much hatred then why did Christ bother
to establish a church when he was on the earth? Organized religion is not the
cause of hatred, it's the leaders of some of those religions that preach
intolerance and hatred, and then the followers take it even further in their
actions and words.Christ's church didn't preach or teach hatred at
all, and many organized religions of today don't either- including the Mormons.
That doesn't mean some members don't take it upon themselves to be rude and
judgmental at times, however. This is true of all religions and groups- some
don't always practice what they're taught.Obviously you have some
negative feelings and opinions about the Mormon church and some of it's members.
Did you learn that hatred from organized religion as well?
Fools come a dime a dozen. I think that we should show these protesters that we
are truly honest in heart, good, pure, and always kind to others always. Lets
not let hate take our position with them. We are better than those people who
spend their time hating, belittling and condemning others. A true Christians
would never spend their time doing these things. True Christians only spend
their time saying good about others. Lets not help them with their hatred by
participating. God will bless us.
We thank thee O God for a Prophet to guide us in these latter-days...for we are
indeed in the living in the last dispensation of time.. we are witnessing all
that we knew and know 'to come to pass' we are witnessing an era where the very
standards and principles that are being attacked, are the very ones we must
live... my fellow sisters and brothers, we share a deep devotion to a 'GIANT OF
A MAN' who stands in the realm of the Prophets, ancient and modern, he walks
hand in hand with his beloved Majorie, to return with union amongst his 'goodly
parents'.. we must now walk in the footsteps of him who gave us wisdom,
understanding and tolerance 'for all'.. it is our way of saying, 'we love you
Hinckley and miss you'.. live by his words, walk in his shoes for "Vengence is
mine saith the Lord, I will repay".. this will be one of many and if we will
ENDURE TO THE END, we will have eternal life to live again with our departed
Prophet, Seer and Revelator President Gordon B Hinckley, Prophet of the only
TRUE church here on this earth.
(Emma 10:31 am), you must not be reading the same comments I am. The
overwhelming majority of the comments are about keeping the peace and ingnoring
the protest. I'm surprised more aren't about "taking them out." I'm actually
very pleased with the sanity and muturity of 99% of those that have commented.
Maybe you should read a few more comments.
John 11:35 Jesus wept. We all need to pray for these
individuals, they need to learn to know the Savior, and they are in need of all
of our prayers. I weep for them.
Maybe the local missionaries and/or faithful LDS members should seize the
opportunity and hand out the best book ever written - The Book of Mormon!!!
Granted what happend on 9-11 was devasting to our hearts and to our country, but
to say it was a hate crime from God is completely stupid. I believe in God but I
am not really religious. I have been to a LDS chruch actually many of them and
my best friend and her family is LDS. They are very welcoming and caring people.
Granted some of their beliefs I dont agree with but thats fine. I remember going
to services and hearing about President Hinckley. I feel for his family losing a
brother, son, husband and father. My prayers go out to them while they see
these protestors on the corner near his funeral saying awful things just because
they have different views. If everyone is the same in this world it would be
quite boring. I think the differences in beliefs between my friend and I are why
we are so close. I work in a health facility where it is Catholic based and we
have mass everyday. These protestors are wasting their time by standing on the
street corner and saying awful things about this man and is mourning family.
As a gay man, I want to express my sympathy with the LDS Church and the
attendees at President Hinckley's funeral. Fred Phelps has been viciously
targeting our community for years. We know how it feels to be on the receiving
end of persecution. No one deserves to be the targets of such hate. On this,
the gays stand in solidarity with the Latter-Day Saints.
This group -westboro baptist - has disrespected multiple funerals and are
spreading hate and lies. It is not illegal what they are doing.
Just like it is not illegal for opposing groups to ride on motorcycles with
extremely large banners praising President Hinckley. Or to make large Angel
wings to open and obscure the hateful protestors. No words have to be passed.
Simply apply for areas directly adjacent to the protestors and encapsulate them
and surround them with positive signs and banners that drown out their hateful
messages and posters. It is occuring at Soldiers funeral and other places these
individuals are protesting. In Denver Harley riding motor clubs attach big
American Flags to motorcycles and drive around the westboro protestors totally
obscuring them.I know President Hinckley is not in Hell and he was a
good loving man and the LDS Church has served Millions of people with aid
world-wide. Too bad the westboro baptists don't serve some poor people
throughout the world instead of doing something so hateful and Anti-Christ like.
"I'm sure that Pres. Hinckley experienced many protesters at every temple
dedication he attended."It's true. I know some of these temple
protesters, and they take pride in being "persecuted" by the people they're
trying to "save" (i.e. the Mormons). Don't add fuel to their fire, don't try to
be nice (google "Most Hated Family In America" and watch the video about them -
they're pure, pure evil and meanness to passersby), and remember how powerless
they are compared with our numbers. And be grateful you weren't born into that
messed-up Phelps family. I pray for their children, that more will escape the
clutches of their evil forebears.
Staging a vulgar demonstration may be free speech but is that enough to make it
I'm so confused. We dislike homosexuals as much as they do? Why are they
Being a baptist myself, reading this disturbs me!! I have, never in my life,
been ashamed of my religion until now. This IS NOT the way I feel and saying I'm
upset is an understatement. RIP Pres. Hinkley
don't understand why some of these comments are posted while other that say the
esentially same thingare not poated...This is for those who
make those decisions.What is the crieteria? no url's no offensive
words, definitely on topic...What goes??
There couldn't be a better tribute to the only true church on the face of the
earth than Satan's minions rejoicing over the death of one of theProphets
of God! God Bless Gordon B. Hinckley! Helived great and has died great!
Lest I sound like a hypocrite, I'm making this comment because 342 people before
me have already commented. But perhaps one of the worst things we can do is to
give this group the attention they so badly crave.First off, they're
not a church. This is exactly the type of group that causes so many
agnostics/irreligious to be turned off by all religion, and to associate
religion with evil and wicked judgment. They are no more Christian (or
Baptists, for that matter) than they are a group of dandelions. They might as
well call themselves 'wheelbarrows' and people would associate wheelbarrows with
evil. But they can call themselves whatever they want, just as they can protest
and make obscene scenes (ha!) almost where-ever they want.The worst
thing the media does is cover their agenda. Seriously, stop reporting this. As
if groups like this needed any more fodder for bickering, contention, pathetic
attention and infantile whining. Yet we have semi-major newspapers, media
outlets reporting about them. Ignore them, just as the 30,000 funeral-attenders
and supports will do Saturday, and every day for the rest of their lives.
I just hope that we as citizens of this great state, as well as any visitors
coming to celebrate the life of President Hinckley will keep our heads and not
let any of our reactions bring embarrassment to ourselves. Let these attention
seeking folks have their moment, but don't let it become yours!
I agree with Some Guy from Out West: If we give them food and something warm to
drink (something for each hand maybe), then they'll have to put down their
signs. ;) Just keep the hospitality flowing! Besides, who knows when a heart
can be turned. Just ask Saul, Alma Sr, Alma Jr, etc.
The demonstration by Fred Phelps and his followers at President Hinckley's
funeral is revolting and incomprehensible. One has to wonder if the LDS
community will gain any understanding from this situation. This is exactly the
kind of hatred regularly visited upon homosexuals by the LDS Church and its
The best way to handle this and honor President Hinckley at the same is to treat
these protestors as he would have treated them--probably with a quiet smile and
not an ounce of anger directed at them. Hate or anger demonstrated against these
people only sinks us to a lower level.
Bet there won't be any people taking the time to protest their funerals when
their time comes!
For the few peole who say that the LDS people think we are the only ones going
to heaven, how wrong you are. If you knew anything about the LDS church you
would know that thats not true. Thats why you yourselves need to study and try
to understand the priciples taught in the LDS church. Dont just go along with
the crowd. Study it for yourself then pray about it and make a descision. God
loves everyone! Not just Mormons. Do we believe that this is the true church,
absolutely! Do we believe that Gordon B. Hinckley is a prophet of God,
absolutely! God is the same yesterday, today and forever so why would he not
continue to have prophets on the earth today? Do we believe that other faiths
are going to hell, absolutely NOT! Did you ever here Pres Hinckley say that no.
The members of this church may not always do what is right or maybe even
hypocritical at times, Jesus Christ said, "I am well pleased with the church
collectively but not indivdually." I love Gordon B. Hinckley. I am sure he has
heard the phrase well done thou good and faithful servant.
it hurts to read negative comments to our late prophet hinckley but i know
those religions who have negative comments are instuments of satan i know and i
beleive that pres.hinckley is a true prophet and that the THE CHURCH OF JESUS
CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS is the only true and living church upon the face of
a whole earth
Those that try to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ do not condemn others.
None of us are in a position to judge anyone else and determine whether they
will go to heaven or hell. That is God's right. He knows us and what is in our
hearts. I feel sorry for those that choose to behave in a way that is contrary
to the teachings of Jesus Christ. He shunned no one. He spent his time with
those that were poor, needy and those that stood in need of a friend. He did not
spend his time condemning or belittling people. He spent his time lifting,
loving and encouraging people. He loved all. People are human and as such we
make poor choices. To be unkind to anyone or judge them is not Christ-like and
should be avoided at all costs. Life is to short to harbor ill feelings or
hatred. Our job as humans is to serve and love all those that we come in contact
with, no matter what they may be believe. God created us all and loves us all
the same. President Hinckley set a good example. So did Jesus Christ.
Our founding fathers granted us the right to practice our religous beliefs.
Jesus even gave us strenght to turn the other cheek when our less than admimoral
fellow man acts disgracefully toward each other. But their comes a time even
when God turned the other cheek to get it slapped hard and said no more. It is
one thing to practice religous freedom and another to practice a way to insight
a riot. Westboro Baptist Church should be shut down by the Baptist Ministry for
it they can not control one of their own. All I am saying is if he keeps up
something bad is going to happen all in the name of Religous Freedoms.
Since we as LDS believe in faith in the Lord and repentance as the two
fundamental beliefs guiding actions, 1)the prejudices of protesters wouldn't
register because the Lord is the kind forgiving judge of everyone, and 2)if a
person is concerned about their own errors of ommission or commission and is
trying a little every day to overcome them, there would be no reason to be
concerned with the actions of others, (other than to try and help them). I hope that everyone in Utah has a great day honoring Pres. Hinckley.
Best thing that we can do is ignore these protesters in the media --- thats what
they are there for.
I don't know how anyone (including above mentioned Westboro) can call this group
a "church." A church is not supposed to encourage hate. They don't agree with
homosexuality? So what? That doesn't mean they should be out there protesting at
funerals (the Prophet's, a fallen soldier's, or anyone else's-may they rest in
peace). I am LDS, a couple of my friends came out of the closet, and my sister
is gay. There is no way I could hate these people: I love them very much. Just
ignore this group of haters.
Many heckled Christ on the cross, we should remember His words: Father forgive
them for they know not what they do.
The Westboro Baptist Church is proving how incredibly insensitive and evil they
have become. First they protest at the funerals of our fallen soldiers, which is
reprehensible, at best! But to bring their lying, wagging tongues to the funeral
of our beloved prophet who only reached out to all faith which maintain the
standard which the Lord expect of him is beyond the pale. I support
the First Amendment, I do. But I equate the actions of the Westboro Baptist
Church with those of Larry Flynt at Hustler Magazine. You're take a right and a
privilege and abusing it. Mormons fled the Midwest in the mid 1840's
due the licentious, murderous behavior of its citizens and established a safe
haven in the mountains of Utah. Leave us alone. Go back to your little town
where hate reigns supreme and let people of God mourn the passing of one of His
most valiant and beloved servants.
The strongest possible message is to ignore them.
By their fruits ye shall know them. Where your heart is there be your treasure.
Let them show who they really are.
Shouldn't we be dissappointed if the evil Phelps group didn't show up? Pres.
Hinckley is in good company when we look at who else Phelps protests. I think it
is a good sign, further confirming that Pres Hinckley did the right things
throughout his life. Protest away!!!
Poor people. The Rev. Jim Jones comes to mind. Just blind to picket at
funerals and other religious occasions. WWJD is what many other religions use.
Obviously not this.It's not against the law to look stupid.
The WBC protesters are clearly wanting their 15 minutes of fame. Otherwise, they
would not be doing this. Popping up in a community to create controversy will do
nothing for them in the long run. It is my hope that those in attendance of the
Prophet's funeral heed the advise of the local leaders and pay no attention to
them.As a reminder, everything has an opposite. Light and darkness,
truth and deceit...These things have always and will always be at war with one
another. Light and truth will undoubtedly prevail.
I am sure that the "god" worshipped by these few deluded souls is NOT God the
Father or his Son. They worship another hateful, vengeful god. A fallen angel
driven from heaven.
Just think our Prophet is with his Wife and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.He
is also with all OF THE TRUE AND FAITHFUL PROPHETS FROM ADAM TIL NOW!"Do
what is right let the consequence follow"
I think it's remarkable that President Hinckley's message was "Standing for
Something." Today it will be evident what these protesters stand for. Let us
all "Stand a little taller," as President Hinckley said, and leave them alone to
gnash their teeth and clench their fists in attempts to draw anger out of us.
When all is said and done, it will be our actions and our words of kindness what
will separate us from the angry mobs.
Sad. Using the pain of others to get their fame. President Gordon B. Hinkley
immulated the Savior in everything he did and, in my opinion, protesting his
life is like protesting what the Savior stood for. They need to ask themselves,
"What would Jesus Do?". Christ would never disrupt the mourning of others but
have compassion for them and would not be pleased with others doing so in his
I find the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church reprehensible. Even so, free
speech should be allowed, even if offensive to some or even many. A good
solution would be a group of Mormons singing hymns across the street or near
this group.Recently, a female in the group was interviewed on
television and was questioned as to why she would be so judgmental when she was
the mother of two illegitimate children. The hypocrisy was incredible. Most
amusing was her rapid change in demeanor. You can probably google or youtube
Although I personally feel disgusted with anyone that would protest at anyone's
funeral, I can almost hear in my mind, President Hinckley telling us to not
speak bad about any religion. He supported the First Amendment and everyone's
right to speak their mind. I doubt that this protest would really even faze
him. If anything, he would say that this will only end up being in favor of the
church.President Hinckley truly was the "People's Prophet;" he was
the Prophet of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; he was my
prophet. I knew him - I shook his hand, and I was honored to stand in line for
nearly 4 hours yesterday to pay my last respects. I love this man and I shall
miss him greatly.I hope that these protestor's will somehow be able
to feel the strong spirit that will be in the atmosphere today as we bury our
dear Prophet.My love and sympathy, and my prayers are with his
family this day as their lay their father, grandfather, uncle....to rest.
I usually don't care when these people protest at General Conference and other
church events. I just ignore them. But to protest at this funeral is completely
rude and ridiculous. How would they like it if there was protestors at a funeral
for someone they loved and cared about? President Hinckley is truly a prophet of
God. He lived a great life and blessed many people.
I checked out this group's website. They are also protesting the arrival of the
Pope, events at the Catholic church in California, Hollywood award shows, and
several more military funerals. What I also found interesting is that they have
4-5 protests all on the same day and at the same moment as President Hinckley's
funeral. So, I would venture to say that their 'group' will be very small in
size. Give them the respect that they deserve (none), and the attention that
they deserve (none), and completely ignore all that they say. Their website
clearly shows a group full of general hate for everything that they come across.
Only Satan could instill that much hate into a life that only God could create.
I am by no means a member of the LDS faith, but stories like this make my skin
crawl. Just so everyone knows, this is what it feels like for the soldiers
families as well. This group constantly protests at gay pride parades, funerals
and any other occasion. Nothing comes close to the horrible thing
they are doing today. However, next time you think of "protesting" someone else,
either in your own head, or by voting for someone that doesn't support gay
rights...remember how this feels.
It's sad this group doesn't realize that their actions only reflect poorly on
themselves, not the group or individual they are protesting.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS ALL BEEN SAID, AND I SAY "AMEN". I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF
HAVING THE R.S. SERVE OUR POOR ENEMIES. TOO BAD THEY DIDN'T BRING THEIR COMMENTS
AND DOUBTS TO A MAN WHILE HE WAS ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.THESE ARE
TRULY THE LATTER-DAYS, I LOVE PRES. HINCKLEY, HE IS A WONDERFUL MAN AND WE AS
MEMBERS OF THIS TRUE CHURCH ARE BLESSED TO HAVE BEEN LIVING DURING HIS REIGN!
I am proud to be a member of the Church of Latter Day Saints, a forgiving
Church. Sad that this Baptist Church is teaching thier followers to hate
another. The Military...and the LDS church. I believe it is wrong to talk bad
about any other church. I believe all churches have some truth in them. May our
heavenly father open their hearts, and their minds one day...very soon. My heart
sinks for our prophets passing..but it also sings, because I know he is watching
and I feel him telling me to not be sad, to rejoice in his passing, for his work
was well done. Blessing to All, LDS or not.
I am a veteran of the war in Iraq, as well as a member of the LDS church. I
lost many friends while I was deployed, and one thing that they all had in
common was an overwhelming sense of pride and love for our country. A country
founded on personal and religious freedom. And as for President Hinkley's
funeral... The thought that people would feel the need to detract from a service
in the memory of a man who dedicated his life to making the world a better
place, helping those in need, and sacrificing all in the service of others and
of our father in heaven is unthinkable. In a time when there is so much
darkness throughout the world, I feel deep sadness for individuals who feel the
need to attack people's faith. Surely there must be things more worthy protest!
As a vet and a non-Mormon, although I disagree with these people, I served so
they might have the right to disagree. I hope I didn't make a mistake. I think Mr. Hinckley would agree with me. He certainly taught tolerence
to those of all faiths and those with none.
They've had their 15 minutes in the light of day and I for one will not be
bothered one way or the other. My prayers be with Pres. Hinkley, his family and
to the church thoughout the world. We mourn his loss but will remember and
celebrate the tremendous life of great service he rendered to all of mankind
....even to the least of these who did not know him.
This church has to be the most reprehensible organization ever. I am not a
Mormon, indeed I'm atheist, but I happened to think a lot of Hinckley. I came a
long way from agreeing with him on many things, but he seemed like a descent man
who wanted to do right by his followers and the world. If there were a God,
surely he would accept a man like that, no matter what religion he belonged to.
I would just like to say, that our Prophet was loved, kind, sharing and was a
morman to not just mormans but to everyone. It truly shows you the true church
of christ, a church that does no harm, but shows everyone the feeling of beening
loved and have a wonderful, devoted prophet to lead the way. I know that 20
people protesting will never stop the love our nations to our prophet. They may
try and take us down with them or slay us like david and glyath, but there is
nothing you can do it you dont truly believe in what you are fighting for. I
know that those people out there fighting and protesting at our prophets funeral
really belive in god. I know that there are people that will be protesting that
will be hiding in the back of the group ashamed. And our church will walk out
with our heads held high knowing that our prophet is the TRUE word of god and no
one will ever stop our gods army. Rest in peace our beloved president hinkley
you truly are a gift from god, thank you for your dedication, your wife has been
To No One of Consequence: couldn't have said it better. Thanks for laying it
Funny how as an LDS people we would NEVER stand outside the funeral of the Pope
or some other Church's leader & chant and yell disrepectful things. Let's show
some respect people! Believers or Not. Christians or Not. How about just Common
Courtesy? So sad!
When a young solider from my hometown was killed word got around that protesters
would be at his funeral, so my hometown showed up, in support and sympathy for
this soliders family that the protesters did not have the guts to show their
faces. President Hinkley was a wonderful man of God. God loved him
very much, President Hinkley loved everyone it did not matter to him if people
were church members or not, he loved us all. Even the protesters, he was
respectful, and encourged us all to be respectful of others, however you would
never see him encourging any church members to protest outside their churches,
or stating they will burn in hell. We were lucky to have a great Man like
President Hinkley. People like those that protest about the Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, only strengthen us and reconfirm how true
the church is
I am a member of the Church and live in the South and I have had several
Baptists tell me passionately that the protesters aren't members of their church
and that they truly disagree rather strongly with what the Westboro Baptist
Church does. Please don't point fingers at members of your local Baptist
churches and lump them with members of the WBC.
I am a Christian, not Mormon. We love you and send our deepest compassion for
the loss of your president. We are sorry to hear of this group protesting at the
funeral and feel it is a unloving thing to do, and do not recognize this as true
ministry.We pray for your healing as you seek the true Jesus of the bible
for comfort, as he is our only comfort.As a christian, I often take time
to make friends with the mormon community to reach out with the love of Christ.
I stand in front of the temple from time to time handing out tracts and
greeting people, I do not join in with the "street preachers". It is my duty as
a practicing christian to share the gospel with all people and defend truth as
it is writen in the bible. My calling is simple. 2tim 2:24-26We will
continue to pray for utah and the mormon community as they mourn. Try to
be nice to me next time you see me handing you a tract. Love and Respect.
just do what president hinckley would have done...said to them..."I Love You"
they are our brothers and sisters, they have just been led astray and will one
day know the truth when judgement day rolls around, just ignore their words and
believe our's follow the prophet, heed to his words, love everyone, forgive
everyone, dont critisize the actions of others, yes what they are doing is wrong
and disrespectful, but they are still our family
Were the Westboro protestors also supporting Huckabee?
It disturbs me that anybody would protest at a person's funeral. Out of all the
times that you could protest, a funeral just seems like the wrong time.I'm not LDS so I think my odds of seeing Gordon B. Hinckley in heaven are
slim. If I had a choice in the matter, I'd sure love it if I did see him and I
could sit and have long conversations with that amazing man. Everything I saw
about the man exuded class, honesty, love and integrity.I've said
for the longest time that there are certain LDS members who I've truly admired
over the years. One of them is Gordon B. Hinckley, another is Ken Jennings, and
last and definitely not least Salt Lake Tribune humor Columnist Robert Kirby.God Bless Gordon B. Hinckley and all the members of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I look forward to the new Prophet of the Church as
I have fond memories for the man Gordon B. Hinckley who truly made the State of
Utah and the World a better place.
As i read these comments about this protest, which I find dispicable, I wondered
what the LDS Church leader would have said or thought. I am not sure but I do
recall that he never rediculed, never critized and never waivered in being a
Christian and loving everyone. I know many wonderful Baptist people and this
group does not represent Christian principles or the Baptist churches. It is a
misguided group that does not need any attention, just prayers.
As a member of the LDS Church who loves President Hinckley, I want to thank
these protesters for publicly announcing that we and our beloved Prophet are
true, loving, tolerant Christians, and nothing like them.I feel
sorry for these protesters.What they sadly don't understand, and President
Hinckley spent his earthly life teaching, was that God the Father and his son
Jesus Christ love EVERYONE.
"Agree with thine advesary quickly, whilst thou art in the way, lest he turn and
rend thee again."D & C. Section 19 tells us not to revile the revilers.I don't have this quote exactly but it goes something like this."Hate does not hurt the one on whom it is poured,rather in the one
it is stored."Another. If we have hate in our heart, we might be
looking for someone, or something to use it on.
BMACLVSPREZHINCKLEY you are absolutely right. That is what the prophet would do.
The scriptures tell us that there must be opposition in all things. How
wonderful it is to know that Christ lives, is our Savior and Redeemer. Alma the
younger was much like those demonstrators. Imagine if the Lord works in their
hearts in the same manner as he did young Alma. May President Hinckley legacy
live in each one of us.
This just breaks my heart, not only for our dear President Hinckley, but for all
of those soldiers who died protecting their First Amendment Rights. My husband
is in the Army, and I would be proud of the sacrifice our family would make for
People of low intelligence and high level of hatred rarely understand what
civility and compassion have to do with proper behavior.
May these folks humble themselves and learn sound doctrine.
And this is Christiany????
It is hard at times to understand and be all forgiving with these kinds of
"whatever they are"...This MAN surely believed in his Lord and His teachings...I
can only do the same...It is hard to be kind towards them, but I have to be.
There is such a thing as funeral etiquette. Even the God of every religion on
earth, or no religion at all understands that.This group should not have ever
been given any newspaper space at all. Don't reward rude behavior with
After viewing the Youtube sight "The Most Hated Family in America," I can only
say that the premis of Jesus asking anyone in the mob, "Let Him who is without
sin, cast the first stone;" was most certainly way over the heads of this group.
Something so simple......but yet so least understood for these blinded obscure
beings.. Trying to explain the difference between the "Old Law
of Moses" and the "New and Everlasting Covenent," which Jesus ushered in during
his ministry and sealed with his atoning blood, would be asking too much for
this group to remotely understand. The sacrifices of so many good men and women
seem so wasted on idividuals so lost as to put their hate into song and teach it
to their own children. They fail to realize that God also had Hatemongers high
on his list of dispises.
Methinks they doth protest too much.
To all LDS: Let us ignore all these evil protests against the
church, leaders and the Gospel ...Just remember, these are the same type of
taunts, disrespect and name calling from those people who crucified the Lord.
They can not accept the truth...These are people who are proud and ignorant who
doesn't know what humility is and strongly refused to listen the Gospel and the
teachings of Jesus Christ. They would rather please Satan but subtly do it in
the name of our Lord to get more people. Remember, during the time
when prophet Gordon Hinckley was called to be a leader in his early callings,
the membership were only 500,000...Anti-mormons and mormon bashings mushroomed
several years later that made people curious to know more about the church..The
result--we now have 13 million members..In a way, these protests helps increase
the membership of the church--makes people want to listen to the missionaries.
Let's pray for those protesters that they would continue -- to enable those
humble souls to open doors for the missionaries and to listen the true Gospel
and be baptized.
The media covered the funeral proceedings. We were all more interested in
President Hinckley. So I don't know if these people even demonstrated, did
I agree let's show the the Mormon way. Let's feed them and add some hot
chocolate. What does the Bible say and Jesus Christ say; forgive for they no not
what they do.
Ironically, President Hinckley, the person they're bashing, will implore us to
be at least tolerant and at most, to love these people.
Some days I wish we had a "Freedom From Speech" amendment. I would defend their
right to speak, but I would preserve my right not to have to listen to them. And
I respect the reciprocol of that too. You don't have to listen to what say,
how can they parade around and say that God hates this and God hates that when
truely God hates no one. Im sure many believe that God hates these people but i
know he is up in Heaven weeping over how misled these people are and how lost
they are. Im no Prophet but this kind of hate saddens our Father in Heaven and
we should not hate these people. as Jesus has said, " As I Have Loved You, Love
Just a heads up, I was actually able to attend the funeral live procedings live.
None of my friends or I saw any protestors on site, nor were there any shown on
the videos of the funeral procession to the cemetary.
All this Anti Mormon protest is nothing but religion bashing in my view and is
not Christian. They should be more Christ like and stop bashing in other
religions. This defently goes to Evangelicals
I just gained slightly more respect for LDS Pres. Gordon Hinckley.