Just to be clear - I'm LDS.We can't keep complaining about people
being intolerant towards us when we're guilty of doing it to others. The LDS
Church and its members has been promoting intolerance towards homosexuals in
recent years by supporting laws and amendments to the constitution that exist to
limit the rights of our homosexual friends and neighbors. It's hypocritical to
complain about something when it happens to you, and then do it to others.Personally, after what the US did to my polygamist ancestors 150 years
ago, I can't with good conscience support doing the same thing to another group.
Most thinking people have a sense of fair play and see through the bias of the
media and some other religious zealots. There is no such thing as bad publicity.
Regardless of whether Romney wins or loses, his campaign is providing the
greatest free public relations bonanza the Church has ever seen.While serving a mission during the early 50's in a far off country there was a
series of negative articles and letters to the editor about the Church. We could
hardly keep up with the requests for us to meet with interested people. The
resulting harvest of strong future leaders is a matter of repeated history
worldwide.What a terrific opportunity to talk with your neighbors
and friends! I suggest that you read and ponder D&C 101.
I don't believe tolerance demands that we agree on every point of doctrine. In
fact, tolerance is a method for dealing with the differences in people. While
the people involved may never agree, tolerance implies a non-contentious manner
of relating toward one another's differences. I understand those passages can be
unsettling and disturbing for some, but we can still be friends!
We should have thought of this intolerance that we are now experiencing against
us before voting, election after election for a party controlled by the very
people who hate us the most and to whom Brother Romney is now pandering, hat in
hand for their vote. Ironically, Brother Romney, a good man, would have a better
chance returning to his positions he claimed when running for the Massachusetts
Senate and running as a democrat. We have made this political bed of thorns in
which we now sleep by joining with the church described in 1Nephi, Chapter 14.
We need to read it and start taking it seriosly.
Professor Campbell, to some extent, labels dissent as "intolerance." Since no
dissent is allowed in the Church, healthy dissent anywhere else is usually
misunderstood by Church members. When Mitt finally addresses his religion in
full and when the Church decides to completely open its history to journalists
and stops with the unreal "positive only" stories, only then will the
"intolerance" stop. As long as we have something to hide and everyone knows it,
we will be subject to "intolerance."
Wow! What a great article. I will tell others about it...
Thanks for the good overview of the discussion in the public media about the LDS
Church. It is a sad fact that many of the people with whom we share
many common political concerns are also intent on excluding Mormons from full
participation in politics. They think that it is appropriate to use political
action to burden people in religions they disagree with. Their commitment to
free exercise of religion is limited to their list of approved religions. However, there is just as much vitriol and intolerance toward Mormons on
the Left. Militant atheists hate Mormons because we epitomize faith in the
reality of spiritual things and immovable moral precepts.It's good
that Mitt Romney is smoking out both brands of religious bigotry. The part of
America that was accepting this prejudice as normal is being forced to confront
its ugliness, and the hypocrisy among both brands of anti-Mormons. It's encouraging that Catholics and Protestants in some states are clearly not
bothered by Romney's Mormonism.
I will use anti-Mormon rhetoric to help defeat Mitt Romney. This because of his
flip=flop on gay rights in Mass.: Mitt ran as pro-gay, and won a majority of gay
votes in this state. Then he turned around and started bashing gay people.I will do anything to stop Mitt Romney, including fanning anti-Mormon
feelings in the bible belt and whatever other legal means are necessary to beat
Standing up against attempts to redefine marriage is not intolerent - in fact
just the opposite. Gays have no right to redefine marriage. They can and do
get married to people of the opposite gender all the time. Mitt still believes
in equal rights for all. What he does not believe in is allowing a few judges
and radicals to redefine an ancient social institution. I believe in gay
rights. I don't believe in redefining marriage.
That's fine if you don't believe in redefining marriage. My ancestors had an
unpopular definition of marriage and were subjected unfairly to the might of the
federal government. I'm not going to support doing that to another group.I'm assuming that you're not Mormon. If you are, you're a hypocrite. You
can't complain about intolerance and support it at the same time.
Main Stream Media bias? I searched Google News for the winner of each primary
or caucus. I specifically used the following terms. The first number in
parentheses is "about" how many results were found. For comparison, the second
figure is the number of delegates won by the candidate (according to CNN)."huckabee won" iowa (2,365; 17)"romney won" wyoming (270; 8)"mccain won" "new hampshire" (5,145; 7)"romney won" michigan (1,239;
24)"romney won" nevada (1,173; 18)"mccain won" "south carolina"
(3,806; 19)Of the three states Romney won, he had the most news
stories in Michigan, 1,239, where he earned 24 delegates. In contrast, McCain
earned only 7 delegates in New Hampshire but enjoyed the publicity from 5,145
news stories.To look at this another way, the most stories about
Romney's three wins was 1,239 for Michigan while the fewest news stories about
any of his opponents wins was 2,365 for Iowa.If Romney were to
receive the same coverage for his primary/caucus wins, it's reasonable to
believe he would enjoy the frontrunner status that many in the press are giving
Hey Jon,My ancestors had an unpopular defintion of marriage as
well.And that practice being polygamy wasn't good in any which way! It had
a relatively , permanently, and damaging affect on most womans brains and minds.
Thank goodness it was outlawed. Same goes for gay rights
I think that we as LDS members should strive to make clear the things that we
know to be true. Also, we respect and appreciate all other faiths, the same
respect and tolerance we expect from members of other denominations. We live in
a country with freedom of religion and we shouldn't be criticized by the things
that we practice or believe. Mitt Romney is a LDS member, yes, he's! But Pres.
Hinckley and other LDS top-leaders will not interfere with the decisions that
Romney may make during his term is elected the US president. Let's be rational
beings and show love, respect, and consideration to all faiths that is
Adam12, I don't know what you're smoking. Others are intolerant because we're
hiding information??? I don't know what information you think the LDS church is
hiding which generates the hate, but even if they had some deep dark secret,
would that justify the bigotry?
David | 7:35 p.m. Jan. 21, 2008Adam12 | 10:32 a.m. Jan. 21, 2008 One never knows what,if any,hidden agendas posters have when it comes to these
kind of public comments. However you both seem to raise some interesting
thoughts.They are as follows:For those who want to fight
" Main Stream Media bias" it seems that the faithful member of The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are left with few pieces of "balancing
information" when it comes to not only fighting media bias but in responding to
the sick and uniformed comments about The Church and Church leadership. We are,
of course, able to so some research, but it is time consuming.Regarding the thought "have something to hide and everyone knows it"...I
remained baffled as to what secrets the Church may be hinding. It seems EVERY
ORGANIZATION tends to put their their best foot foward. Please name us one that
email@example.com "a life long member of the MORMON
faith...an emerging new world-wide RELIGION!!!
Thanks for the interesting article and all the other articles referenced. We,
Americans and we, LDS, need to exercise tolerance for those who disagree with
Mormonism is a cult.
Questions for Christians who are thinking of voting for Mitt Romney for
President of the United States 1. Does Mitt Romney swear
secret oaths in the Mormon Temple (oaths which could affect his ability to
perform his Presidential Oath? Answer 2. Why do you think Mormonism
isin so many people's eyesconsidered outside of genuine Christianity?
Do only fanatics with bad attitudes consider Mormonism to be a problem? The
truth is that Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, and Presbyterian conventions all see
Mormonism as outside orthodox Christianity: documentation 3.
All active Latter-day Saint adults can quote the so-called Lorenzo Snow couplet:
"As man now is, God once was; as God now is man may become." What does that
mean? It does not mean that men can become "like" God" that is,
perfect and sinless. The quote clearly means that God used to be a
man and that men can become Gods. And every Mormon knows it means that! documentation