But Tilton and Noel see no conflict of interest
Maybe I have a sick sense of humor. I read the head line, "Two state lawmakers
tied to nuclear plant" and imagined two sleazy looking gents tied to a smoke
stack. Lawmakers should not be allowed to vote on legislation that they will
profit from.God Bless America, God Save The Republic.
I'm a conservative Republican. Following the company line has been pretty easy
until it has become obvious that my party has been hijacked by those who haven't
my interest or that of other people at heart.To see that two
representatives are owned by nuclear interests isn't a surprise. Nor would it be
surprising that others are owned by leading banks, Qwest, coal powered interests
either. It's difficult to admit to being a pawn under those who have taken my
party away from it's roots. I suspect that many Utahans are facing the same
issue. It could be the James Dobson's of the world who feel so power mad that
they have the "right" to decide my parties presidential candidate based only
upon their being evangelical, for school prayer and against all forms of
abortion, or the oil, coal, and power companies who have written the Republican
platform on environmental affairs, it's all bad. We need to take the party back,
pay attention to people, the air they breathe, the dishonest companies they have
to deal with, and the future of the planet along with the future of our children
and their children.
I find it strange that our elected officials deny any conflict of interest when
anyone with even a modicum of common sense would find otherwise. It begs the
question, are these individuals really that blind, or are they are as devious as
they appear? Kind of reminids me of the whole sordid Larry Craig mess. If a
big enough lie is told long enough and loud enough, politicians seem to believe
that we will believe it. The sad thing is that we usually do.
I am just amazed at the audacity of some of our state legislators. They serve
on committees that deal with issues such as nuclear power and education and they
are the same ones who stand to profit from power plants and charter schools.
And, no one says anything because of????
Looks like the Fox is once again watching the Hen house !!Where have
ethics in Utah politics gone! That is what happens when one party is
totally in control!Wake Up Utah!
Does anyone ever have a conflict of interest in the legislature for the state of
Utah? Apparently not as it is business as usual.
It's called "conflict of interest." They should recuse themselves from any
meetings or votes even remotely relating to nuclear plants in Utah. If they
don't, they should be investigated for ethics violation.
"I really don't have a conflict of interest, because I'm not a regulated
utility." He's got that right: not regulated (read he's out of control) and not
a utility (read he's no use whatsoever). Corruption is corruption is corruption.
Stop lining your pockets and serve the public good!
So what? multiple lawmakers are tied to Intermountain Health Scare...no
difference. then you wonder why in Utah the rich get richer and the poor get the
picture when their down so low...nothing really matters....etc etcsigned,Midnight Oil
Conflicts of interest should not be allowed, all of our legislatures should come
from pioneer park.
It's time to revisit the ethic rules followed by legislators. How these two can
say with straight faces that they don't have conflict of interest is beyond me.
You should realize this IS the republican party. The party line is big business.
If you think this is wrong, you have been voting for the wrong people all the
Folks we have what is called a citizen legislature, which generally means this
is not their full-time job. Everyone up there can potentially be accused of a
conflict. Is a teacher or staff employed by a school distrcit in conflict for
sitting on the education committee? The list is never ending. It is only a
conflict if the individual makes it one. I am not prepared to always assume
there is a conflict simply because the media wishes to create one and pile on
the legislature at every opportunity.
When will we say that enough is enough? First they made a killing with the
banks, then IHC, then the charter schools. Now they will profit from making us
all less safe. Good heavens, these guys have got to go!
Party politics my foot! Conflict of interest?! Jim Dobson??? Look, we need
people in politics who do have ideas that are in the best interest of people.
Nuclear power plants are what we need in the country. They are safe, clean for
the environment. The Europeans use nuclear power with no problems. Come on!
All you people who howl about wind power and all this other bunk need to
wake-up. I'm hoping projects like this one go forward! Also we need to drill
for more off-shore and An-war Alaska oil, and clean up the Middle East and
Southeast Asia, and anywhere else fascist Muslim radicals who are causing the
world-wide problems and threats to democracy. Go Bush, Dobson and all the
people who have any backbone in this country!
MFM, whether or not we "need" nuclear power plants isn't the issue. It's
legislators who's personal finances are tied to business interests their
legislation (or lack thereof) effects.These guys have as clear-cut a
case of conflict of interest as you're likely to see. The claim that "Well, IHC
does it, too" doesn't make me feel any better. Legislators with business ties to
the businesses they're regulating should decide where they want to sit in life -
the corporate board room or the the Capitol building. They shouldn't be able to
do both. As for school teachers serving on the legislature, they should also
recuse themselves from any vote involving decisions that may personally enrich
Typical political response when they caugt get with their hand in the cookie
jar. First, there is no cookie jar. Second, Well ok there is a cookie jar but
no cookies in it. Third, Well ok there are cookies but I did not take one.
Forth, Well ok I did take one but they are small. Where does the justification
what is everybody so upset aboutamerica has the best government money can
So why bring up this subject just with nuclear power? Every politician takes
contributions/bribes from some organization with the expectation that they will
be repaid in some way. Transparency in election contributions would help.
Especially in contributions from trial lawyers and unions. Politicians aren't
monks from a monastery. They all have involvement with some business or
industry. And speaking of conflict of interests, you wonder if the coal industry
has some control over the media.
The Republican party stands for big business and money. Unfortunately, the
party has been high jacked by the likes of Dr. Dobson, Tony Perkins, Will
Perkins, and last but not least Ted Haggard.
Surprise, surprise! Someone in the legislature has a conflict of interest!
I still can't stop laughing.....the headline in this story has me laughing
hysterically. How many more lawmakers can we "TIE" to a nuclear plant? Can we
TIE the entire senate and legislature to a nuclar plant? I'll supply the
Isn't it strange that the two dudes caught in this mess are republicans? It's
very strange to me. I thought the republican party had a monopoly on ethical
values. This is upsetting. It's turning my whole world upside down:(
These guys are tiny compared to what is (and has been) going on in Washington
D.C. for the last 60 years. We should throw the bandits out, the trouble is, who
ever we replace them with will be converted and sucked in to the grungy pit
called D.C.I totally approve however, of building a nuclear power plant,
it seems to be the only viable alternative with which we can clean up our air.
Every election we are told how so-n-so is going to clean everything up and
then...........very little happens or it gets worse. How sad. The voters deserve
Does anyone remeber the days when we could trust our Republican leaders. That
memory is fading fast. I listened to a young Democratic leader the other night
on the radio. He sounded like a Utahn. He promoted unity, and he actually
understood ethics, and seemed to understand that our tax dollars belong to the
taxpayers. I'm sending this young man a check along with a letter
asking him to run for the legislature, or even better, congress. I will also
send my Republican endorsement.
Let's just keep throwing more into the air and expect our grandchildren not to
have to pay. Already the mtn lakes have signs in colorado which blames other
states for the high mercury content on coal powered electrical plants..the
workers don't live as long ..uranium mining is going strong south of
moab...spent uranium trucks with strange writings on the side pass through towns
along their way to the mill in white mesa..but what we see can't hurt us...but
we forget the deer, elk, water,plants stuff that god gave go into the chain of
life. To say that there is no connection is like saying global warming is a
hype..look at georgia, florida, the southeast then think about different
prophesies not neccessarily of just one people but it all coincides about the
fate of man. Utah is too beautiful to become a toxic waste dump just for money
and is becomming a place where one has to be aware of the water one drinks. All
things are connected and the truth will be in our grandchildren of what we left
behind for them...because they did't have a say in the matter.
Before we go nuclear, I think we should have a plan on where to ship the
byproducts. I do not want to store it in my back yard, and if NV never does get
the facility, where is it going to go?As to the conflict of
interest, I think it needs to not be so vague, and should be clarified. If only
saying I have a conflict of interest clears him to vote, we should be able to
see clearly his interest.
Bottom line: the two legislators need to be thrown off the committee....
There is no real conflict of interest law in this state, too bad for that kind
of behavior in most other states they would be thrown out of office.And so
Right now there is a technology to recycle the spent nuclear fuel rods. The
technology hasn't been licensed yet in the united states, but it has been used
in Europe. When this technology is licensed in the United States, there will no
longer be a need to store high level radioactive waste.Nuclear power
is the cleanest most efficient power. It is soon to be the best economical
source of power. The problems with the nuclear reactors from three mile island
have been fixed, where there isn't a chance for an operator error and a melt
down. I support any legislator who would also see the need to
provide clean efficient power for the future.
Let's knock off the chit chat and alledgings and get on with it. The sooner we
have the power plants in operation, the less we need foreign oil...Now that
should be our focus...The man's conflict can be a boon to the expediting the
power we need. Leave him alone...
I wonder if Ralph Pecker ever recused himself when he voted on things such as
the quality growth act, a bill that deals with his industry -- land use
After working at many Nuclear Power Plants in the US and around the world for
eleven years I would not hesitate to live right next door to a US operated
plant. Any new plant will have a newer passive design to replace the 1950's
design which all US plants now use. If the US decides to build a fuel
reprocessing plant we would not have the high-level waste problem.Everyone
wants power but they don't want a plant in their back yard. Coal is not the
answer. Wind and solar are still a few decades away from generating the levels
of power that we need.
There is never a conflict of interest except when the conflict of interest is
denied. Look at IHC and for profit hospitals, Rep Craig and Salt Lake Real,
Republican legislators and vouchers, waste dumps and Republican lobbyists and
legislators, flat tax and Republicans, Republican bankers and credit unions,
Republican legislators and a starved education system (blame the teaches union),
and now 2 R's and nuclear power plants. No conflicts? Please!
I worked with a Nuclear plant also ...sorry but if a earth quake hits ...you
don't have to worry about who's next door..just common sense for the future
generations..not always $$$$$$$$ jobs..and i don't need or want power. And we
are a fix it society , like we fixed Katrina! So keep the nuke out of utah as i
am forming a strong coalition against it! Again materialism is not the answer
nor nuke power for sure.
Typical Utah crooked pols. They get away with it because Utahans are so
accustomed to believing what they're told by those in "authority"...as in
Big surprise that a citizen's legislature has conflicts of interest. That is
precisely what makes it work. These guys have an interest and expertise in an
area. It shouldn't surprise you that guys with a background in construction run
bills and sit on committees that regulate construction, or people that sell
health insurance run bills on health insurance. Remember, they are just one
vote...not dictators. If you don't like it run against them and serve yourself.
I for one would like to see some courageous legislators come forward and create
an environment that allows for the safe use of nuclear power. It doesn't warm
the planet, doesn't support terrorists in the Middle East or neo-dictators in
Russia. Given the constant drivel of liberal opposition to anything technology
or especially nuclear it is pretty tough to stand-up against the "politically
correct" class. I say, "Give nuclear a chance." Bravo to Rep Tilton and Noel.
Who do these people work for? Certainly not us! Whether it's vouchers,
regulating Energy Solutions, or nuclear power plants it's obvious that the only
time these legislators pay attention to the citizens is when they need their
votes. After that the lobbyists run them....and they sell us out cheaply to
Conservative Guy, right on for your attitude. This is the very attitude of 'damn
the torpedoes, full speed ahead.' History should note that the Admiral who
uttered those words had his ship sunk by one of those torpedoes.We
should not confuse the issue. It is two fold: The first, good policy. The
second, legislators using the power of their office to promote their personal
financial interest. While it is true that conflicts will always take
place in a part-time legislator clearly these two have stepped over the line. I
think of Rep Dave Cox, a teacher who refused to sit on Education Standing or
Appropriations because he wanted to minmize the apprearance of evil. And it
should be noted that the attempt to split Jordan District in half is a direct
result of Rep Cox. He handled it honorably.These two chaired the
committee overseeing their conflict of interest. And having a decent clue how
this stuff works, they went out of their way to do it. Tilton has enough
seniority that in order for him to be the Vice Chair he had to request giving up
a chairmanship. He flat out went out of his way on this.
Wow! This is an outrageous breach of trust on the part of our elected officials.
We do have a "citizen legislature" and many representatives also get
campaign contributions or lobby for businesses. HOWEVER, Rep. Tilton is the CEO
of a company that wants to build a nuclear power plant in Utah, sat on a
committee charged with figuring out what power sources Utah should use for
months, and did not reveal his personal involvement in the subject until last
Friday!!!This is such an obvious conflict that all voters and
citizens of Utah should be appalled. Even our legislators should see it for what
it is -- corruption!
Greg Curtis step up and do the right thing. If it looks unethical to have these
two legislators on the committee,then show the citizens of Utah that any
conflict of this nature exempts you from being involved. Send a message to all
the legislators that conflicts will come up with the nature of their business,
but be in the right at all times and never comprise the trust our citizens put
you in. Does that sound squeaky clean? It is the way it should be. No double
And if Rep Tilton was not offered a chairmanship at this point, it demonstrates
incompetence. In either case, he is flat out wrong.I remember when
he was first elected he bragged about his knowledge of electic regulation. He
was told to go out of his way to avoid a conflict of interest. He blew that one
off for certain.And his statement that he is not a regulated utility
is the exact same logic and arrogance of Al Gore when he was caught with legal
but clearly unethical fund raising. His comment was "there is no regulating
authority." The Gore case boiled down to it was likely illegal but had not been
challenged in court up to that point, so basically no regulating authority
established by court precedence.Both Rep Noel and Tilton need to
resign from that committee immediately. If they do not they need to get blogged
into just flat out resigning from the legislature.I support Nuc
power. This is so blatant and over the bounds of decent/statesmanship that it
alone stands to kill any chance of opening one of these plants.They
are wrong. Period. And I am a conservative Republican with a track
I think the words 'honest leadership' are an oxymoron here in Utah. I have never
met more dishonest and sneaky business practices here. Our legislature needs an
ethics OVERHAUL! Can SOMEONE stand up and please define 'conflict of interest'
for our state government.What are we teaching our children?!?! They
don't see anything wrong in copying their leadershipby lying and cheating. 'The
end justifies the means...'type behavior will catch up to us in future
generations.Secondly, where is all the WATER going to come from to
run this nuclear plant? Why can't we develop more WIND and SUN energy solutions?
WIND and the SUN is plentiful here and are FREE. Coal, natural gas, fossil fuels
in general are NOT (the brother-in-law network owns them). ...Real
estate scams and agents that are legislative representatives that pad their own
interests or their fellow church member...Vouchers, charter schools, private
school management companies that line the pockets of voted officials or are
owned by officials...Obscene propery tax measures with no real justification and
are led by the legisltive/real estate business tycoons, etc.Please,
will a real leader - PLEASE STAND UP here in Utah and do an overhaul in the
Noel and Tilton have an obvious conflict of interest here. It is a no brainer
that they should recuse themselves from any public debate or voting on the
nuclear issue. Anything less makes a mockery out of our democracy.
Have the equity group make annual payments until construction starts = $100,000
Have the equity group pay annual payments once power generation
begins = $1 million Watch the voters that elected them let them get
away with lining their pockets = priceless There are some things
money cant buy but NOT Utah Legislators
this is obviously a conflict of interest. please tell me the paper is going to
make sure these men are not able to vote or pass laws related to nuclear
reactors. oh wait. the paper is religiously affiliated, which means they believe
the second coming of christ will come before the earth suffers from global
warming...so why not profit from it, right? sick, sick, sick.
Shame, Tilton and Noel.
Of course I appose a nuclear Power reactor to be built in Utah. But if
what I've read is true, it makes me more concerned. (That is, if money is the
motivating factor). It's just not safe, and we don't need this here. There's got
to be somewhere they can build it if they need to, where it would be out of the
way from humans and can't affect anyone in a harmful way. I sincerely hope this
never happens here.
Obvious conflict of interest! Also ...How can a nuclear power plant
be a consideration here? This area is No. 2 behind the San Andreas fault and we
are far over due for an earthquake. If that isn't enough of a reason ...The article mentioned large quantities of water are needed. This area
is semi-arid: basically a desert! So where would this vast water supply come
from? And do we really want to use our water resources for cooling a nuclear
These two people take things for granted, they have eyes that don't see, they
have ears that don't hear, they don't see the big picture. It's hard to tell
someone that don't hear, we don't need this type of nuclear power plant in Utah.
Water is a blessed resource. Nothing good will come out of this deal.
The strange thing about republican representatives is they believe that the
public is stupid. What is needed is honest discussion regrading eliminating
Utah's bad air and other toxic pollution by using sustainable energy. Anyone who
believes or thinks nuclear power will help in cleaning up the environmental
hazards and/or pollution are just as naive as the various republician
representatives who are suggesting such nonsense.
Obvious conflict of interest. Good job in publishing the story. Please do not
let these crooks off the hook.As for going nuke, can't you
republicans and your big business buddies just put the plant and the waste in
one of the many 3rd world countries you are currently milking?Regarding some of the comments above about the republican party having been
coopted..... It has given me great hope to see so many of my republican friends
have their eyes opened over the last 6 years. The party of morals has turned
out to be exactly the opposite of what it claimed to be.I don't
believe the Democrats are perfect either, but at least they don't try to fool
into thinking they are the party that God endorses.No, I'm not a
democrat. I vote for the person I think will best represent my interests,
regardless of thier party affiliation.
Like it or not, the Nuclear Power has the chances of being the most ecologic
power production technology. At its physical limit 1 GwDay tahes 2.2 lb of Pu or
235U, requires 100 tones of mining, and may give 4 lb/day irradiate dtructural
material (the reactor structure - removed a 30 y once).Unfortunatelly, US
is seized in 1950 technology that pin-heads know to do it preaty well, and
ignore any progress...but little steps made by prefered persons. That is why the
US nuclear is in trouble - being obsolete is 1000 times over the above physical
limits. New emphasis on research and development have to be honestly taken.The GNEP (translated for real Goofy Nuclear Energy Partnership) due to short
predestinated money and harsh conditions has no chances to improve this in the
next 100 years but to keep on profit some nephews...Is US able to make the
nuclear-ecologic renaisance ?