I completely believe it. How could it not be true? It's physics. No one sees the
facts or logic in any of it. They just think that these "terrorists" are out to
get us when it's our own government.
Just one more step towards a one world government by the Free Masons and their
cohorts! The physics prove it beyond a doubt.
Its terrible! How come it possible to kill his own people with his own weapon?
American people are most unfortunate people in this world. Most of them are
blind, foolish but their leaders are shrewd, cunning 100 times more than their
common people. Any other attack can happen again as they are still inflaming
fire behind the previous blame.
If americans think it was bush why did u elect him again, only in america would
he of even got elected
I have been a steel worker and fabricator for the railroads in this country for
over 30years, and I had the wanted ability to be tuned in to ESPN on the morning
of the horrible event, and as the buildings began to implode on them selvse, and
the so called experts were trying to make it sound possible by the heat
generated by the jet fuel and the huge air surge of the elevator shafts, I
looked at my wife and said our government just killed all those people just to
start a war in the oil rich middle east and,disrupt any and all Opec Nations to
begin driving the price of oil out of sight, and that is exactly what happened ,
and all those poor souls were sacrificed simply for the unbridled greed that has
griped our counrty ever since George W. Bush, has become our president, and he
and his entire group of murderers should be tried and shot for the horrible
deeds that took place on that day.
We didn't elect George W. Bush. It's a mystery to most people how he ever did
take office. I believe that George W. Bush won't only be held accountable for
the 2,000+ victims of 9/11 but also for the 70,000+ Iraqi civilians killed as of
Sep. '07, and the great American troops that are sacrificing their lives for a
I'm just waiting for the next "false flag" event. They were cooking up 9/11 for
years and I know they have more murderous tricks up their sleeves. And I 2nd the
motion to try and execute those actually responsible for 9/11 (though they may
have to impeached and removed from office first).
The fires, according to the math I've gone through, could have only hit...at its
worst...257 C, and that's by containing the fire to one floor, burning with
perfect efficency, with no hot gasses leaving the floor, with no heat escaping
by conduction and allowing an unlimited amount of time for the steel and
cencrete to absorb all the heat (to figure out the hottese it could get). That's
nowhere close to the 600 C where steel loses half its strength, and it's
DEFENITELY nowhere close to 1535 C where steel melts. I'll agree it's
I just have one question, why would the government do this??
Why would they make their own peopel afraid for thier lives with threats, and
false pretenses about diseases and manufactured death? well isnt it obvious if
we just think about it? To make you their puppet. so that you have no concept to
question the,? think about it who would question a government if there was an
attack on their people? who would realize soon enough that the government lied?
no one. It would take years for conspiracies to develope, and we can make up a
whole story and throw it out to the public within 48 hours and people will get
behind us. Watch this: makes up a story as to why the people should not ride
bycicles. THen at a race, two trees fall down, killing hundreds. no one
questions who does it, and the government blames it on individuals who they have
Not surprised a BYU professor would believe such absolute nonsense and actually
propagate it. After all, you all DO believe the Book of Mormon (bwaaaaa, ha, ha,
ha) so I guess it's not that much of a stretch.
As a Professional Engineer, I have looked at Dr. Jones arguments and evidence,
and found them credible. It is quite a bit to "swallow" that our own government
would attack "it's own" in order to promote a war, but "false flag" events are
common, and very effective tools. Hitler burned the German parliment building
(the Riechstag) in order to unite the people behind his warlike and radical
agenda. The question in my mind is: Will Americans stop this neo-conservative
generated radicalism before another world war begins?
Let's say all these conspiracy theorists are correct; the US government blew up
the WTC to start a war. What about those four destroyed airplanes? Were they
imaginary? Or did the CIA payoff Osama bin Laden to do that, so we could start
a war in Afghanistan and force him to flee for his life into the Tora Bora
mountain chain? It is all so patently absurd that all these nutjobs, including
Professor Jones, should take a deep breath and go back to their day jobs, rather
than pretend to know what they are talking about.
As a retired military person I reflect on the many days I fought fires at
training facilities. Day after day we deliberatly set fire to tanks and
buildings filled with oil for training in fire fighting. Not one of these
structures was replaced due to melting. Check out "ground Zero Hiroshima" and
see what withstood tempuratures equal to the surface of the sun and the most
powerfull blast man had devised.
I support Jones, good for him to have the courage and strength to say what he
believes is true. Especially against a bunch of blind sheeple that don't
understand what is happening to their freedom and liberty.
All you can do it sit there and agree with what he's said. Getting into too much
detail about all of the other events is irrelevant. All he's gone to prove is
that explosives, and not plains, brought down the towers. If it was our
government, with the support and greed of Rockafeller, who owned the buildings
and has great stake in the oil companies, oil banking, and trade agreements,
you'll just have to shrug. It's too late to do anything about it now, and out
government has the strength and the ability to keep the truth hidden for a very
Although Prof. Jones may be right that this was the work of explosives, that
doesn't prove who planted the explosives, or how long they'd been there, or that
President Bush even knew about them, seeing as government conspiracies don't
necessarily require the president, and could possibly even be served by his
ignorance. A proper investigation is needed before any alegations can be made,
or it will just cause more problems.
Professor Jones applied a simple scientific concept: when you have eliminated
the impossible what remains is what happened. Everyone has seen implosions. No
one has seen a building collapse into its footprint from fire before 9/11 or
after. On 9/11, and with a lot of fanfare, two such buildings were said to have
collapsed from fire. Then, later in the day, another did. The third building was
shown still standing on BBC, while the naive "news-reader" (as they call them,
accurately, in Britain) announced it had collapsed. When it began its 6 second
fall, the "feed" to the news shut down. For months, the BBC claimed to have lost
the tape of this obvious pre-announcement. But why go into detail? Three
impossible things happened on 9/11. I know we are all expected to believe six
impossible things before breakfast in some religions, but my government is not
my religion, and I do not believe them. What religious dogmas I choose to accept
are between me and my God. I hold my government to worldly standards of proof
and do not commit the idolatry of believing them where their explanations are
without rational foundation.
I've conducted countless hours of research regarding the events of September. I
don't want to preach to the choir, and I don't want you folks to do that either.
Lets start basic, and lets begin with the physical facts like Jones has done.
We achieve nothing by running around screaming conspiracy. We get pats on the
back from people who already know the official report has huge gaping holes, and
the people who believe the official story just get increasingly pissed off.
This is an unfathomably polarized debate. If you like myself believe that we
need another investigation into the events of September 11th, then I charge you
all to exercise intelligence in the ways you bridge the gap with those
non-believers. I've swayed a lot of the faculty in the engineering department
of the university where I study by appealing to their sense of reason and their
firm beliefs in predictability of materials and other physical improbabilities
and I daresay, impossibilities that are believed to have occurred that day. I
must insist that everyone who reads this consider that the ripple effects of
your actions reach further than you realize. Please ready Jones' published
paper. Enough said
Most of us aren't experts in building engineering so we need more people like
Jones to step up. We all in shock just accept, Oh, it's fires. Common sense
though, something seems wrong, how does steel turn to dust. Then building 7
tops off the mystery. I just want to know the truth, please. What can we do?
Most people don't want to bring it up, it is cased closed. I agree with Peter
above, I don't think coming up with theories is the best thing right now. The
truth should come out once we pursue what we know, something seems wrong with
how the buildings came down. Fires doesn't cut it for me. I would like to see
a model building setup and replicate what happend to the buildings. Show that
fires and the impact did it. Just thought of something, because we saw it
twice, we assume that is what just happens. Of course, doesn't explain 7.
Do you want to know where the next flase-flag attack is going to be?Do you
think it was just a coincidence that VP Cheeney gave the commencement speech at
BYU just after the incident concerning Prof. Steven Jones?I think it was a
stern warning not touch this subject again or be considered an enemy of
state.I think the Mormons scare the crap out of these people. The Mormons
are an incredibly huge, wealthy orginization that is really outside any
government control. I think a dirty bomb is SLC would solve so many problems for
this bunch. Think about it and weep.
Google Zeitgeist and watch the movie
how did this turn into a mormon bashing?
this guy is a fantasist.and was fired because of incompetance.we have seen
his file.his methods are pseudoscience.he is a joke in the
scientific world.a dangerous walter mitty.we need to get behind and
support are police,army and president.
How sad that some people react with name-calling and slander when someone has
the courage to voice an unpopular opinion.If the buildings had been
empty, the planes had been drones, and the surrounding blocks had been evacuated
and safety precautions taken like they were for the demolition of the Key Bank
building, wouldn't y'all have been hootin' hollerin' and cheerin' when those two
buildings (and later WTC 7, which wasn't even hit by a plane) came tumbling
straight down into their own basements with such masterful precision?Do your research and come to your own conclusions.
It is clear to me that 911 was an inside job. Anyone who researches this and
looks at what happened before and after knows it was. War in Iraq - short term
goal. World domination - long term goal. Obvious motives. Some people,
particularly overly patriotic types, or religious types, or republicans, all
tend to be the majority in denial of what is rally happening. Sad, but these
people are already slaves to those running the show behind the curtain.
Stupidity is a fact of life for some and that was what the genius planners of
the 911 operation knew so they did it to us. They will do it again and it has
already been hinted at for early 2009!
I have a lot to say & not enough room.So I will keep it short.Americans live in
the greatest country in the world & they are not stupid. You might be
though.Nazma you are the one needing education & communication skills.Nazma,I
don't know your IQ but you might consider a IQ Test to even be able to make such
an preposterous statement.First of all,the people of this country didn't elect
George Bush.Secondly,I'm sure you don't have ANY control over what your
government does.It's easy for someone like you to say things you are not
knowledgable about.For instance,where did you learn to spell.Why don't you use a
dictionary to learn spelling and study some English Lit..Lastly,I am a Christian
and I would say to someone like you are you ready to meet God face to face if He
came for you tonight.Have you thought about it.That's the most important
thing.If you are saved throught Jesus Christ you shouldn't be worried about
anything.The Bible says (Matthew 6) live one day at a time for tomorrow may
never come.Why throw insults at American people you don't even know.God have
mercy on you little one.You are out there aren't you?
The fire could never reach 5000 degrees, the building had a ton of lawsuits
against it, the elevators were failing causing massive injuries, HVAC problems,
asbestos, structural issues, electrical problems, the building was completely
outdated, the time of the attacks (before 9am) the building didn't topple even
with the wind and the damage to SE side. No delayed collapse, no burning
inferno, only the top floors caught fire. Why did number 7 even collapse at all,
when the other buildings didn't (Deutsche)? Ask the Wallstreeters what they said
about the towers before 911, they were total crap. There are just too many
things that miraculously happened for such a perfect demolition without
explosives? I've been in construction for over 20 years; sorry just no way that
happened so perfectly. Those beams were cut to perfection.
I am so mind blown by the simple mined people who just don't get it. Even after
it is all spelled out for them. I do understand the horror of believing that our
own government could actually be behind such a horrible act. That is one of the
worst feeling there are, but then again how many other lies have we been fed
over the years. For you nonbelievers just keep your head in the sand, and let
the government do what ever it wants to you. But don't let them do this and
worse to your children. For your children sake stop them now. Because it's only
going to get worse.
I didn't even know there were people who thought it was a government conspiracy.
I guess you learn something new every day. So did we really land on the moon
Free-fall speed means explosives were used.Free-fall speed is
approximately 32 feet per second, PER SECOND. So in the first second you travel
at an average speed of 32 feet per second. The second second you travel at an
average speed of 64 feet per second and so on.The three towers
didn't just fall, they accelerated. For acceleration to instantly start and
continue, all resistance must be removed from the lower floors.Humans know that the only to remove resistance in steel and concrete buildings
is with high-energy explosives.Dr. Jones doesn't just "think"
explosives were used, he knows it.
It is obvious to many persons that WTC was a demolition job. As stated, seceral
times above, no large building will collapse perfectly into its own
footprint.Of course, there are reasons the truth isn't told; had it
been so, no one in NYC would have returned to work in a large building on
September 12 (business before honor, you know).Enough talk! It's now
time to do something about it. Is there an organization being formed to do this?
Greatest country in the world? Right... ok then a country where theres approx 50
million people who cant afford basic healthcare, a country who bullies others,a
country of vast amounts of obese and lazy people,a country whos average citizen
has about as much intelligence as a pencil, a laughable education system - the
average citizen knows little about what happens outside their own state never
the mind the country or the rest of the world, a country whos people have an
innate lack of ability to think for themselves and insist on being spoon fed and
would believe anything their govt tells them because their conditioned to be so
by all the patriotic and religious rhetoric. So condescending and contraditory.
Is the essence of a democracy not a place where everyone is entitled to voice an
opinion and to question its leaders when seen fit to do so? Being told to shut
up and being told to be unpatriotic doesnt equate to such values. Something is
seriously wrong in a society where people tolerate such things. A 21st century
country with a 19th century mentality. Greatest country in the world? Whatever
you say sir!
What a nut! I'm not a professor myself, so I can't argue his points. However, I
have seen other scientists convincingly dispute Jones' findings.From
the number of comments supporting Jones' theories, and their common bad grammar,
I wonder if the conspiracy theorists are collectively poorly educated, or if
many of the posts are written by the same person.
So without rambling too much we do have genuine hope for the future in obama who
has emerged as an insprirational figure. Hopefully the past 8 years can be put
to bed now although it will take time. We will never truely know wat happened on
9/11, the mind shudders... the findings of prof jones cannot be ignored or
easily dissmissed but alas i dont think we'll ever find out the truth. All we
can do is move on.
If this country is so pathetic, please feel free to move to, say ... Mexico or
Canada ... or France. You're certainly free to move. And while your exercising
your freedom, realize that the free world owes it's freedom to the USA. If you
dispute that assertion, please read world history. And while you're
reading, you'll discover that the majority of major scientific and medical
innovations have come from the same americans for whom you show such distain.
Also, you'll find that, at one point in our earth's history,
scientists actually pronounced that the world was FLAT. Scientists are smart,
but not infallable.
I acknowledge Mr. Jones' points and arguments about this event, and promptly
agree. I also agree with Mr. Robert Stevens' comment. There was clearly no, or
severly reduced air resistance because it is clear that the towers acclerated as
they fell. I also agree with Mr.Jon-Q-Law. The fires inside the building could
never reach 5000 degrees, and the building did not collapse even with the wind +
damage to the SE side. I'm not a professional engineer or anything, but it's
clear to me, an ordinary citizen, that there were explosives planted inside the
building prior to the event. I think what Mr. Jones has to say is as equally as
important as what any other scientist has to say about this situation. His
points are well thought out, supported, and pretty much valid to my eyes. In
addition they actually make sense, and applying those ideas makes the whole
picture much clearer. You can pray God all you would like, but you must still
eat to survive. In the same way, you might brush over this topic, but any
sensible person should look at the facts of the case, and cut out the
It might be instructive to see what the V1 & V2 rockets did to London's tall
buildings during WWII -- Just a thought.
is BYU saying on this guy's theory?
This guy is wrong.Thank God...
Thanks for your information!
I am disgusted with our government and of our society for being willfully blind.
I am scared about the judgements that God will bring to our nation for our
silence and cowardice that is not allowing us to refreshh the tree of liberty
when presented with the truth of our tyranical government.
No doubt the government is hiding the truth. If Muslim terrorists were so
intent on getting us they would have done it again within the last eight years.
Our borders are totally wide open to anybody that wants to come in with whatever
they want to bring with them. There is no security to speak of.One
fact that is rarely mentioned is that all Israeli's were absent from the trade
centers that day. A group of mossad agents were caught on tape filming and
celebrating the attacks.
one question..just weighing the odds...something i do not want to believe..but
answer me this did they Identify the plane that crashed into the pentagon..what
company was it..I can't find colors that match red..white..and lite blue..only
two countries with those three colors are the USA..which is dark blue and russa
which is actually a lighter blue..i hate to think it was not a plane but
something else. I thought that they were various planes coming out of another
place in the USunfortunately i can't remember the make of the planes and
what company failed to protect the US citizens..was it various planes as well..i
can't find the pictures of commecial airplanes in the United States that match
the tail of the one sitting outside of the pentagon in a field..just would like
to disprove everyone's suspicions..Too many people died that day to just ignore
any other idea that we are just unfortunate Americans who are unprepared..Why
are we such and untrusting country but i guess we are sick of being fooled..I
really do hope the Government never tells us anyway.
What do you have against Canada? It's been generally rated as having a higher
human development index even (better quality of life). Nothing against America
This evidence is concrete and basically proves 9/11 was not how we were told.
Those who still think that the American government did not have anything to do
with it, should do some research and look at these facts. As soon as a plane is
suspected to be hijacked, ANY plane public airline military etc. Fighter pilots
are scrambled and sent to fly along the plane and even shoot it down if
necessary. They do not need ANY orders from ANY authority to do this, it is THE
LAW! Where were our planes on 9/11? They did not go into the air, that means
that someone gave orders for them to stay on the ground!! Who can do this? Only
the American government. Look at the facts. Do your own research, you will be
amazed. Google project northwood and watch the documentary terrorStorm. The
truth must be learned.
People think that if you're patriotic, religious, and conservative that you
probably don't believe this stuff. I'm all three of those things and believe a
lot of it. It's obvious explosives took them down, but of course we will never
know if the gov. planned it.